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guismo
03-30-2005, 08:00 PM
alexandre gome faiad has entered the Master and Servant 3D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=7009)

Latest Update: Texturing: render
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1115954333_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1115954333_large.jpg)

another test. i thing i had enought of the body. lets have the throne now

guismo
03-30-2005, 08:42 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1112215322_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1112215322_large.jpg)

hi everyone. this is my first challenge ever. i don't know how it is going to be and am a little affraid. but here we go.

i don't know if this concept applys to the challenge. i will do about 2 otters. if this one gets to be the best i will do it anyway.

it is supposed do tbe a "renascence" image by the contrary. there are many pictures of the incoming of christ being carryed by the angels (his slaves). this is the income of the anti christ carryed by his demons.

it is intended to denote an adoration feeling. as the master (anti christ) being the absolut love of the demons. all of them trying to at least touch him.

christ loves all (so says the bible, not me). my anti christ will despite all. not hate. he just don't care about humans or the demons. but he accpets to be served. as he don't have do to anything for that.

on the next sketch i will try to enlarge the adoration feeling and some other things that are not working well.

sorry for my bad english

guismo
03-30-2005, 08:46 PM
i think i did something stupid

why is it duplicated? i'll try to fix

eheheh
believe it or not i am not a newbie in foruns. but i just don't know how to edit it. the picture wont vanish

is there any moderator that can do this?

stevesherrin
03-30-2005, 09:09 PM
And the concept is very interesting... well thought out and very different! Hope it goes well for you!

guismo
03-31-2005, 02:24 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1112235863_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1112235863_large.jpg)

the final version of the first sketch.
the things i like in this is the vitral that the throne will have and the contrast betwen the shadow the throne will cast in the demons and the light from withing

i will now work on the second. the concept is in my mind. the third will be a mix.

any critic is very welcome

guismo
04-01-2005, 03:41 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1112326900_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1112326900_large.jpg)

second sketch
this time i gave emphasys on the master servant relationship. i don't think i succeded, but what the hell

te demon is temporary, this is just to give the idea

the third ideia is coming

guismo
04-01-2005, 03:44 AM
ow, and steven, thank you for your comment

i did not answered becaus i was affraid to flood. but so be it

Canche
04-01-2005, 04:26 AM
Man i think the first compostion and theme is better. I think it is stronger and it is direct to the point, a king sitting on his trone.
by the way cool drawing.

A12
04-01-2005, 04:51 AM
The throne idea has a lot more power to it. Especially how the wings frame the main character. Run with it.

guismo
04-01-2005, 10:35 AM
thank you for the crytics. i need then

i liked more the first idea too. and i want the wings, but i am afraid that this would make the main character not human. if it does i am out of the contest, right?

well, i will make 2 more concepts. if the first is the best i will do it even if not for the contest

Phynix
04-01-2005, 12:45 PM
hi
you should definitely go with the first one!
i think nobody is against a human with cute little wings (maybe that not little, but .. well cute somehow :) )
i think if you can show on the final piece how bored the man is it coud really become an outstanding piece !
i think you shouldnt waste that much time on making konzepts if you allready have such a great one
in the meantime you could really beginn to make that one as is it probably will bee very time consuming
looking forward to updates and i wish you good luck :)

guismo
04-01-2005, 05:53 PM
well... i don't know. i want to give the best of me in this challenge, so i must make sure that the ideia will be really the best i can make

but you are right about waisting my tim. stil.. the next sketch on my mind seems to be so good... i will try to do it quickly, choose the best and begin modeling

guismo
04-02-2005, 01:27 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1112405275_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1112405275_large.jpg)

third and last sketch. i am tired of drawing. this is definitely not what i like to do.

but it is unfortunate to be so tired on this sketch. in my head is the best of them. but the sketch got so bad that gives me doubts...

in this one i tryed more the "renascence" feeling. may not look like, but in my head it does. in this composition the anti christ comes from the bottom of hell. the camera shows it from above (thow seems different in the sketch) and the demons all around (i did not have pacience to draw them well) works like renascence angels. but instead of keep talking and playing they are killing each others in order to be able to touch their master.

again the master seems no pity or love for them. he is being carried to rule over the humans for a thousand years, but it doesn't please him. what would please him? maybe his nemesis, eheh, who knows?

anyway, i hope you all can understand the ideia even with such ans awfull sketch and compare to the others in the same level

ow, and i don't know if it became clear, but the fire will make the work of clouds. most of the demons should be riding clouds, as well as the master.

guismo
04-02-2005, 01:31 AM
now i need you guys help. please, if you can post wich of the three is the best...

and try not to look at the quality of the drawing, wich, obviously, the first is better. try to see just the ideia, the feeling

thanks for any comment

guismo
04-02-2005, 10:25 AM
i don't know if i am allowed to ask for posts, but it would really help me to see some opinions.
that is why i made 3 concepts..

Wintermute
04-02-2005, 10:38 AM
personally I like the throne versions over the others. The 3rd version with the devil holding the anti-christ in his hands in front of worshiping demons makes me wonder who the demons in the foreground are really worshiping? the man, or the devil?

As far as the wings are concerned in the throne versions, I'd just build them into the throne as ornate decoration as opposed to having them on the guys back.

I hope that helps some!
Looking forward to more!

:beer:

eddieellis
04-02-2005, 11:01 AM
Great pic dude... cant wait to see how you model

guismo
04-02-2005, 11:25 AM
thanks

it seems like the throne is the one most people like wherever i ask

i thought of that idea of putting the wings on the throne. i donīt really like it but seems to be no other option.

it really helped me, thank you

stevesherrin
04-02-2005, 11:35 AM
But I agree about the throne. I really like the concept of the 3rd sketch personally, but feel the throne speels out the master/servant relationship better. It's just more clearly defined

guismo
04-02-2005, 01:26 PM
thow most people vote for the throne, a lot says that the idea in the third is better. since it is the worst draw makes me think that i was not able to put my thoughts in the paper well

mm... i will try to do a mix betwen the first and last. i donīt know how, but i will try.


thanks for the helps people, i now know what to do and will begin the concepts for the demons and modeling

guismo
04-03-2005, 06:48 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1112550516_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1112550516_large.jpg)

the throne sketch was the choosen one. was the most voted and i believe to it has more potential, although i like more the third.

well, i saw antropus doing this composition lines and thought if it would apply to mine.
i was happy to see that mostly it went well. just changed the proportion, wings and some minor things

thanks for everyone who voted. i will now begin the modeling

guismo
04-03-2005, 11:21 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1112566905_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1112566905_large.jpg)

topology study for the antichrist

unfortunetly (and i mean it!) there are a lot of triangles and bad topology lines (i don't remember the name of those). but i am not still learning to do a good topology. i hope during this project to get much better

luckysevens
04-03-2005, 11:27 PM
Wow, great concepts I agree that your probably going with the right one, though the 3rd one does seem to offer a better close up view of your anti Christ, love that disinterested look on his face as he sits an inferno cover with demons. Looking forward to how this progresses.

Zethriel
04-03-2005, 11:40 PM
Oh my devil,you are going great for the moment. :bounce:

guismo
04-04-2005, 03:58 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1112583513_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1112583513_large.jpg)

the begin of the antichrist's head. there are somethings to be fixed but it is quite coming as i want. considering my modeling capacity

guismo
04-04-2005, 10:36 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1112650566_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1112650566_large.jpg)

the final modeling of the head. well... not exactly the final. i will change it when i begin the expresion. add some polys where it is needed. but it is the final model for texturing.

now,this will be a real challenge. i have only completed the texture of one model in my life. and it was neither reallistic, human or difficult. but took me ages

oh well... let's pray

guismo
04-04-2005, 10:46 PM
well... i said it was the final model, but looking at the render i see some mistakes

i know it is a bad bad thing, but i have not rendered it yet ^^

oh, and thanks luckysevens and zethriel

guismo
04-07-2005, 12:37 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1112830646_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1112830646_large.jpg)

texture test... i still don't know what to do. i am working on photoshop with fastskin sss from the mental ray

i don't understand a thing of sss, mental ray or human skin. this is my first attempt with all of that. to learn i change something and re-render. and it takes ages...

i hope that with the little i know i still can make it on time and decently

guismo
04-15-2005, 03:46 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1113533174_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1113533174_large.jpg)

cloth modeling. the suit is almost done. i will put some bumps and ad the textures.

first time i really try some cloths. not like i wish but i think it is ok

guismo
04-16-2005, 04:03 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1113620583_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1113620583_large.jpg)

continuing the modeling of the suit

guismo
04-17-2005, 10:12 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1113772361_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1113772361_large.jpg)

suit finished, after maaany problems

i hope to finish the whole antichrist today

of course, this is just the modeling. no real shaders or maps

rickycox
04-18-2005, 12:48 AM
Looks good, turned out well.

arLutiK
04-18-2005, 02:36 AM
Wow the suit turned out really well, great work :thumbsup:

guismo
04-22-2005, 04:53 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1114141982_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1114141982_large.jpg)

it is coming out slowly but one day i it has to end!

guismo
04-22-2005, 04:54 AM
ow, i didn't see that there where comments. thank you very much.

i expect it to become much better with the textures.

Neeno
04-22-2005, 01:22 PM
great progres.. just want to say something... if this guy is like a leader of the demons i do not think you should give him retinas or pupils at all on his eyes i say go with some thing more surreal like just one straight blend of eye colour.. like a red or a stale black/blue... im not sure but i just think realy eyes do not suit this character well.. then again its only my opinion your flying right along! :thumbsup:

guismo
04-22-2005, 04:03 PM
i see your point. the problem is that i wanted him to be looking at the camera in a superior way. one color eyes wouldnt allow that.
but i will try something to see how it works. i wanted a white pupil, but nothing i did worked well.

thanks for the suggestion

guismo
04-23-2005, 01:28 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1114216124_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1114216124_large.jpg)

i really don't know how to do the eyes. the last experiment was to colorfull..
i will still put the cristaline. i am deciding the texture now.. any suggestion?

guismo
05-05-2005, 01:13 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1115251998_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1115251998_large.jpg)

everything temporary. just trying my studies with fast skin of mental ray

guismo
05-13-2005, 04:18 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1115954333_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/7009/7009_1115954333_large.jpg)

another test. i thing i had enought of the body. lets have the throne now

Wandddo
05-13-2005, 04:22 AM
Wow man! It's really great modelling!! good luck :thumbsup:
cheers

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