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eug55
03-29-2005, 04:44 AM
eugene rabok has entered the Master and Servant 3D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=6882)

Latest Update: Lighting: light/background
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1114362909_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1114362909_large.jpg)

more of background

eug55
03-29-2005, 08:07 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112126853_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112126853_large.jpg)

very first sketch... just to visualise idea that i have in my head...
seppuku - ritual suicide. the peak of the dramatic relattions between master and servant

chiwoo
03-29-2005, 09:17 PM
Hi Eug55,

I like your idea. I hope I dont sound harsh, but I am concerned that your current concept might be too complicated. We only have a little more than a month to have these completely finished and submited. I plan on having mine finished by May 5th. I have no idea what your 3D skill level and speed is but 5 asian warriors would be more than I could handle even if I had two months for the project.

I would simplify the image to just a master and a guy comitting suicide. Maybe you can work with just those elements and then if you have the time you can add another warrior or even 2 if you really have alot of time. I have a feeling simple and strong is the better way to go for this challenge.

Still its a great idea. I wish you the best of luck with it. :)

eug55
03-29-2005, 09:41 PM
thanks, chiwoo
we'll see how fast the progress's going. i'm going to create just one body and rig it... and try to play with clothfx... at that point i think it doesn't matter is it 2 figures or 5... i think texturing and lighting will take most of the time...

chiwoo
03-29-2005, 10:06 PM
Cool deal Eug55! I look forward to seeing it.

eug55
03-30-2005, 02:14 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112148861_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112148861_large.jpg)

spent couple hours modeling basic body (polygons)... later will work with model in zb...

eug55
03-30-2005, 04:23 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112156585_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112156585_large.jpg)

i'm done for today. tomorrow i'll try to play around with the room and may be some cloth tests

eug55
03-31-2005, 02:03 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112234633_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112234633_large.jpg)

just a first pretest.

eug55
03-31-2005, 02:11 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112235071_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112235071_large.jpg)

didn't expect that cloth would be such a pain - had to use zb. that might be a problem

eug55
03-31-2005, 05:46 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112247991_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112247991_large.jpg)

couple of hours of zb

grau
03-31-2005, 06:21 AM
-the torso seems a bit tall
-if I remember correctly his seppuku wouldn't be accepted with a facial expression like this
-the background looks great

Versiden
03-31-2005, 06:59 AM
wow... it's refreshing to come to a thread and be pleasently suprised.
The render of the room looks sooo good! Good job
the character looks cool so far

eug55
03-31-2005, 07:06 AM
thaks for comment grau
- it's just a half of torso - and a first test render... i'll position it properly later
- this guy is in state of clinical death... just a split second before he falls. his face expression is a convulsive reflex... hi was calm when he started cutting - believe me <-joke
- thanks for your kind words

eug55
03-31-2005, 07:09 AM
i'm glad to see that people are actually looking into this thraed

jarvetu
03-31-2005, 07:56 AM
The concept and modeling is really good, something very different! The characters and house are looking nice already, maybe you coul add some classic japanese view outside the room, visible in the distance through the doorway.

eug55
03-31-2005, 08:39 AM
thanks jarvetu.
your reply proves that my sketch sucks. elements of japanese garden were planed to be visible thru the doorway - sakura, pond etc... they are on a sketch (unrecognizable thou.. maybe i should put little pointers - "tree" "lake" <-joke)

eug55
03-31-2005, 09:37 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112305074_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112305074_large.jpg)

worked on shogun's hands - the only visible element of his body (except head of course)

eug55
03-31-2005, 10:03 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112306607_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112306607_large.jpg)

just a quick test

pigwater
03-31-2005, 10:35 PM
lookin good eug55 ... i nice little ritualistic suicide always makes me smile :bounce:

thinkin though that the heads on these guys needs to be sized up about 30% ... bodies look o.k. (especially when they'll have cloth) .. but the heads are pretty small to me

looking good :thumbsup:

eug55
04-01-2005, 05:29 AM
thanks for comment, pigwater

heads look normal to me (i have a small head too - i'm serious)... but i'll try to scale it back and forth...

eug55
04-01-2005, 07:42 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112384577_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112384577_large.jpg)

just a quick lighting test

HillbillyKing
04-01-2005, 11:12 PM
I'm really digging your lighting so far. I have some comments, but I want to wait to see the next progress before I start critiques. I like the concept and the idea.

Neomage
04-02-2005, 12:07 AM
I love the lighting in the room, how long does that take to render and what type of machine you have to pull it off? I always find lighting nearly impossible to get looking good.

At least within a good render time :)

eug55
04-02-2005, 08:33 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112430815_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112430815_large.jpg)

still struggling with lighting,
also moving caracters around scene trying to find right compositional spot... also i had to create bunch of secondary lights just to balance main light comming from background... i think i have to give up with lights for now and go back to modeling

2Neomage: i have a really slow computer... all my "quick tests" are eternity
2HillbillyKing: thanks for stopping by

eug55
04-07-2005, 09:49 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112863740_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1112863740_large.jpg)

practically i've done nothing for the last couple of days (1 month old baby-boy demands more attention than i thought)
... only tonight started to model shogun's cloth in zb (and last weekend spent a bit of time doing face pretexture for shogun as well)... test render - just light cache (to save time)... no reflection, no secondary light ... nothing - just to get a rough idea about lightmap

eug55
04-11-2005, 05:37 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1113237429_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1113237429_large.jpg)

working on shogun's cloth

ernia
04-12-2005, 12:53 AM
very nice,eug55. I like the concept. room lighting look good, too. keep it coming.

ernia

eug55
04-17-2005, 06:37 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1113759476_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1113759476_large.jpg)

haven't done anything since last week... just last night worked a bit on background - it's donna be pond (may be couple kois in it)

orion 77
04-17-2005, 10:05 PM
it would be nice to add some color diffusion to the window on a few panes to give the image some mood.i really like the render and the overall light of the scene.
what software are you using?

eug55
04-24-2005, 06:15 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1114362909_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6882/6882_1114362909_large.jpg)

more of background

2 orion77: max, zb

blakbird
04-24-2005, 06:56 PM
Well, one of the rare original ideas in hundreds of challengers concepts.
Garden became too dominant in the last picture. Distracts the attention from whats going on at the place. You may use a slight fog or something else.

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