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AJ
03-28-2005, 05:13 PM
AJ Jefferies has entered the Master and Servant 3D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=6835)

Latest Update: Lighting: Composition Testing
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1115025158_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1115025158_large.jpg)

Just playing with a rough setup of the composition. The deadline has made me resigned to just the one bot in the scene. It does make it easier to put together but I don't think it will read as comically as I had intended...

C'est la vie!

AJ
03-28-2005, 05:15 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1112030142_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1112030142_large.jpg)

Extremely crude concept. Basically, the idea is to have two ballet dancing robots being controlled by their master who eagerly watches their performance from behind the 'stage'. Early days... early days.

AJ
03-28-2005, 05:19 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1112030377_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1112030377_large.jpg)

Here's an idea of the robot's design, I really want them to look as humiliated as possible, despite the fact that they were clearly built with tutu's.

SheepFactory
03-28-2005, 05:33 PM
hahahahaha love this man!

glad you joined , we really have to finish this one man :)

*subscribed

tdawg217
03-28-2005, 06:19 PM
the robot concept is hilarious, i love it.. . im definetly going to be following this thread, cant wait to see some more updates

good luck

hands0nfire
03-28-2005, 09:33 PM
first I would like to say is how cool it is to know that another jefferies is here creating 3d designs..and as for your work i really like it alot and i wish you the best of luck..

handsonfire
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=223443 (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=223443)

ilasolomon
04-04-2005, 11:55 PM
Hooray! awesome, fantastic ... Aj, my friend. :- ) glad to see you here at last.

Blaschke
04-05-2005, 12:00 AM
I love the design! Please show me more!
Good luck!

AJ
04-05-2005, 09:59 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1112734742_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1112734742_large.jpg)

Started to model up the first bot. Keeping it all fairly simple. I greatly need to improve my texturing & lighting skills so I'll try to get as much detail/interest in the image from those areas as possible.

AJ
04-05-2005, 10:03 PM
Sheep, tdawg217, Ila & Ke V2 - thankyou for the comments & encouragement so far! Very appreciated. (It's up to you to update your thread now Sheep, don't let me down!)

hands0nfire - It's a small world... Who knows, we could even be related! Good to see someone else fighting the 3D corner with a great surname :D

DaddyMack
04-05-2005, 10:10 PM
Hahaah... Greetings AJ_23, your concept and wips look reaaly cheeky, pulled a smile outta me really early in the morn. Cheers mate, and good luck with it all:thumbsup:

Infernando
04-06-2005, 02:48 PM
Refreshing entry you got there! :)
The scale thing is very interesting, can't wait to see how this one turns out.
Keep posting!

eddieellis
04-06-2005, 08:13 PM
lol... great idea mate

tdawg217
04-08-2005, 06:06 AM
hi ,just wondering if there is going to be a human character in the composition, because it is a requirement of the contest!

digones
04-08-2005, 06:22 AM
I simply LOVE the 'lady robot' design!!



keep it up! :applause:

vitorvilela
04-08-2005, 06:35 AM
Hey Man!!

Really great idea!! love the progress so far ;)

Keep it up. :bounce:

C-Ya
Vitor Vilela

AJ
04-08-2005, 09:57 AM
hi ,just wondering if there is going to be a human character in the composition, because it is a requirement of the contest!

Yep - those circles in the background are the glasses of the inventor who will be controlling the unwilling robots... My concept sketch isn't very clear really, I might try to update it this weekend.

Thanks for the comments guys! :D

DimitrisLiatsos
04-08-2005, 11:18 AM
:bounce: Oh AJ..u can't possibly know how happy i am to see u working on this....Lady Robota is my favourite...(although i think the surprise will come from Master's face..am i right)


Keep going man..i am impatient for your updates ..and have fun.

(sorry for my bad Engrish) :D

AJ
04-09-2005, 05:57 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1113065877_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1113065877_large.jpg)

Not a great deal of an update, just some legs for the bot to prance around on. The horrible sausage shaped shoes are place holders at the moment. I haven't decided whether to opt for ballerina slippers or enormous ungainly robo-feet...

AJ
04-09-2005, 06:00 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1113066055_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1113066055_large.jpg)

Just a little pose test to see what's working and what isn't. Safe to say the little bot needs some proper hands & feet...

sonicstrawbery
04-09-2005, 06:57 PM
Hahahaha your idea is really cool AJ, i love the expression of those bots, simple but powerful :thumbsup:

Can't wait to see more of this scene :scream:

ilasolomon
04-09-2005, 11:46 PM
Now I can tell that these little bots deserve a short animation!


[b]Awesome!
[/british accent off]

;)

AJ
04-10-2005, 01:06 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1113134817_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1113134817_large.jpg)

A new pair of shoes (and fetching ribbons) for the bots feet

AJ
04-10-2005, 01:12 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1113135171_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1113135171_large.jpg)

Just some more silly posing with the new shoes (note : I am not using reference for these poses, so my sincere apologies to anyone who studies ballet...)

AJ
04-10-2005, 01:14 PM
Now I can tell that these little bots deserve a short animation!

Well I'm no animator Mr S, but if you've got nothing to do after moogoo... they're all yours! :D

AJ
04-10-2005, 04:39 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1113147572_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1113147572_large.jpg)

I promised myself that I wouldn't even touch the render button until I'd finished all of the modeling and was ready to UV everything. Then I thought - bugger that. So here's an actual render of the bot, not the right textures, not the right lighting & dirty as hell. Oh and I've started modeling a new tutu...

NEWT#
04-10-2005, 04:47 PM
Very promising. May I suggest something else for the hands? These dont look so elegant. No ofence :thumbsup: .


Yours truly

Gunilla
04-10-2005, 05:09 PM
Those bots really have character - lovely poses. THis is gping to be real fun to see completed, good luck :thumbsup:

Neeno
04-10-2005, 05:12 PM
a clap for you Aj.. i love this character lol... awesome.. very humourous.. which is great :applause:

6foot5
04-10-2005, 05:39 PM
very funny concept, a robot in a tutu? brilliant! yet another one to watch.:thumbsup:

SheepFactory
04-10-2005, 05:58 PM
no animator my ass :) you had the best anim session entry dude , animate those robots! :)

authentic
04-10-2005, 06:44 PM
well not sure it really feets the aim of master and servant but these are so really cool design, render and posing. And I agree with everybody : ANIMATION ! please....

AJ
04-10-2005, 08:05 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys, it's encouraging to get some responses!

NEWT# - You're absolutely right, some proper hands are the next order of the day!

Ali - You are definitely too kind. I'll strike you a deal, you update your M&S entry & I'll give animating the robots a bash... What say you? ;)

authentic - I know what you mean, I hope that when I've modeled the inventor/controller and put the bots dancing into some sort of context it'll look more 'master/servant'.

DaddyMack
04-10-2005, 09:32 PM
AJ, the slippers are killer:thumbsup:
I love this thread:)
Keep the laughs coming man!

jake rupert
04-10-2005, 09:41 PM
Extremly funny design.
Love it!!!

kmest
04-10-2005, 10:24 PM
:bounce::bounce:this is realy nice AJ...the concept is realy good,,,that kind of fantasies which i realy like......i like therendering tooo...nice colors u've used ....
i'm forward to see the final..kep it up:thumbsup:

pencil-head
04-11-2005, 12:44 AM
Great stuff AJ. I've always loved your sence of humor in your designs and you posts.:D Nice render too. Keep it up.

BTW. It would be a crime if these guys weren't animated.

Slav
04-11-2005, 03:35 AM
bahahahaha~! you have my greatest support this piece is going to be wonderful!

StuntMan
04-11-2005, 09:05 PM
I like how this turned out a lot! Very fun to just look at. Maybe make the scene a little more "extreme" or "intense" than just one dancer catching the other. Try and think about what problems robots might have when dancing? I'm sure you'll figure it all out, you're doing good :)

mushroomgod
04-11-2005, 09:36 PM
to good m8!


like the others say....these should be animated you know :)

ilasolomon
04-11-2005, 09:54 PM
we want T. O . C . Z . S . E (*)


_______________________
*: I{FSYR









Decoding hint: HAL :)

tilite
04-12-2005, 07:47 AM
hehe

this is such a funny concept...
great modeling... keep it up

mushroomgod
04-12-2005, 01:30 PM
thought for animation....


have the two dancing, fluffy, light, elegant ballet and what not. then have the female robot launch herself into the air (maybe doing somkind of turn or something) have the male bot arms out, sliding across the dance floor to catch her as she falls...then (whilst still in the air) have the female fall apart so all of here limbs fall to the ground. leaving the male robot embarrassing and confused

just a thought (hint hint)

eddieellis
04-12-2005, 01:47 PM
yeh animation would be so cool.... I think you will need to put a human master in their dude, as it is one of the requirements of the challenge.

dmonk
04-12-2005, 01:51 PM
Very cool design I liked the poses you came up with in the last updates. The slippers are excellent! I think this model would be very fun to animate.:thumbsup:


I can't wait to see when you final piece!

DimitrisLiatsos
04-12-2005, 01:54 PM
[QUOTE=AJ_23]http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1113147572_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1113147572_large.jpg)

QUOTE]


Hahahah...man..i know u have heard this from everyone....but ..please..PLEASE ...animate this ...hahahahahahaha:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

AJ
04-12-2005, 06:39 PM
Ok! I'll animate them!

Seriously, thanks for the comments guys.

Mat - thats a fantastic idea! But dammit man - you know how easily distracted I am, and you're putting excellent ideas into my head before I've even finished!

Eddie - I am putting a human in the scene, the robots are being remotely controlled by their master behind them. (I knew I should have done a better concept sketch!)

Ila, Dimitris & Tony - thankyou all (although I still haven't worked out what you said Ila...)

Back to Max for me...

ilasolomon
04-12-2005, 07:17 PM
...although I still haven't worked out what you said Ila...



Use You JRSF!

ilasolomon
04-15-2005, 07:15 PM
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3dRaven
04-18-2005, 05:33 PM
Hahaha can't believe this threads evaded me for so long. Lookin great so far AJ especialy the last render ...nice improvement on the lighting. :thumbsup:

ilasolomon
04-19-2005, 11:48 PM
Back to Max for me...

I just wanted to aske you .....
"ANYTHINHG TO SHOW?!"

AJ
04-20-2005, 12:02 AM
Yes yes my owly friend - Unfortunately my Brother's getting married in a couple of weeks and he foolishly made me the best man, so I've had to deal with organising & attending his Stag do the past few days (i.e: getting extremely drunk & forcing him to look as stupid as possible).

I can't promise I will show you what I've done tomorrow (as I have now realised that I'm going to the pub...)

tiburonsita
04-20-2005, 03:25 AM
I really like the comedic character the lady robot has.

Lemog
04-20-2005, 07:02 AM
I love your idea AJ... clean concept and good design fir the robot :thumbsup: I'm waiting his eyes to add him a real personality... keep it up man :bounce: that's so funny... and funny is good, our world need fun :D

cgg
04-20-2005, 09:30 PM
hehe i LOVE it :love:

keep it up and good luck

melkao
04-21-2005, 02:00 AM
jajaja man thats funny, i like this:scream:

formoso
04-21-2005, 09:59 AM
nice work man, i like the metal material alot, what did u do to make it seamed brushed. anyways the characters are absolutely amazing proportions for animation and i suggest you do some when this is over.

digones
04-23-2005, 06:22 AM
I'm waiting for the updates, man! :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

cheers

AJ
04-23-2005, 08:00 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1114282799_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1114282799_large.jpg)

Not an enormous update - but I at least wanted to wave and say "I'm still doing something!".

I've sorted out some hands, fashioned a new tutu (newtu?) & most importantly - started mapping the main body. It still needs plenty of work (some more tarnishing around the edges for example) but it's on it's way.

Unfortunately, I still haven't worked out how big the bot is going to appear in the final composition, so the texture is 4000x3000 to compensate for this, so I've possibly wasted a lot of time putting in details that won't be evident in the final image. In the interest of time (and my sanity) I'm going to have to figure out the scale of the scene before I texture anything else...

Hopefully this 'stop-gap' update will be replaced tomorrow with something much more noteworthy... (he says)

AJ
04-23-2005, 08:02 PM
what did u do to make it seamed brushed

It's Vray & glossy reflections - a mans best friend & a CPU's worst nightmare, hooray for multi-threading!

arLutiK
04-23-2005, 08:54 PM
AJ, your robot rules. I love it, it's so absurd

great work :thumbsup:

ilusiondigital
04-23-2005, 09:14 PM
Yes, impressive texture and render :thumbsup:

fellah
04-24-2005, 12:57 AM
hehehehhe so you decided to join a challenge once again!! :D
I'm so confident you won't finish this that I dare to ask.. r u game? if you finish I finish, if I finish you finish?

very nice work so far btw! the last texturing might have been subtle, but it really added alot!

AJ
04-24-2005, 04:00 AM
if you finish I finish, if I finish you finish?

Oh that's a deal my viking friend... That's a deal!

BlackNull
04-24-2005, 04:04 AM
hahaha priceless, great quality, good job man u pretty much have to animate this one for sure because we won't stop bugging u until u do it :D

AJ
04-26-2005, 03:24 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1114525484_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1114525484_large.jpg)

Some more fooling with the bots textures/posing. Time to get cracking on the Master...

conundrum
04-26-2005, 03:43 PM
brilliant work, i love the concept, its very funny and the result has a lot of character. great modelling and texturing in particular, the new pose is very nice. good luck, i'm looking forward to the finished product, this is my new favorite :thumbsup:

melkao
04-26-2005, 03:48 PM
hey man, i don't know where did you get that idea for your trhead and your models.
but is very cool and funny:thumbsup:

monsitj
04-26-2005, 04:39 PM
nice render ! and nice pose too!

Climax
04-26-2005, 04:41 PM
Lol, looking cool and very funny! :scream: Keep the fun comming! :bounce:

eddieellis
04-26-2005, 05:20 PM
looking sweet my firend

Lemog
04-26-2005, 05:31 PM
A funny pose for a true beautiful rendering... simply nice :thumbsup:

sonicstrawbery
04-26-2005, 06:04 PM
Haha , nice render, great expression in the pose :thumbsup:

ChrisThatGuy
04-26-2005, 06:06 PM
Ahahah-hahahaha.... Aw, this is my new favourite robot. Awesome.

CryingHorn
04-26-2005, 07:36 PM
:scream: That's great, very cute and funny indeed

fellah
04-26-2005, 07:59 PM
ah yes! great to see you're still working on it, nice pose!
ooor well actually.. hm.. maybe we should decide what the punishment and price for the one of us who break the 'promise' shall be? :hmm:

mv
04-26-2005, 08:10 PM
can't believe I missed that one; it's awesome ... keep going AJ !

pigwater
04-26-2005, 08:30 PM
hilarious .. i could actually watch this ballet :bounce:

great stuff

DaddyMack
04-26-2005, 09:38 PM
LOL AJ, it keeps getting better each time I visit over here:thumbsup::thumbsup:

erilaz
04-26-2005, 11:42 PM
Can't believe I missed this! Beautiful and hilarious! The psoe is fanatsic, and the metal texturing is superb. Perhaps a little more work on the tutu?:D

arLutiK
04-27-2005, 04:02 AM
Ok you toped it by putting it in position, I love it even more.

Try using a mask in your oppacity of your tutu with, I did that for the lace of my puppets with a patern in it looks even nicer, just a sugestion.

Great work :applause:

adel3d
04-30-2005, 05:55 AM
Excellent progress!
Look forward to seeing more...................................................................:thumbsup:

ilusiondigital
04-30-2005, 08:12 AM
Ahahahahah, bella danzarina,totally great. Congratulations friend

wuxi_dakar
04-30-2005, 10:22 AM
where is the human charactar,i think its better to put some human in,coz thats the requirment of this topic, dono if robots counts,hope it does,anyway, very good shading and lighting for the robot;'s body/ like it

blakbird
04-30-2005, 11:49 AM
interesting, genuine innovative approach (besides smell like 60' <sixties>) hard to explain

waiting to see the result

pecan
04-30-2005, 07:01 PM
keep up the good work- your idea is breathtaking, this can be the nuts!

AJ
05-01-2005, 06:14 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1114967667_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1114967667_large.jpg)

Right, here's some wires of my progress on the Master for the scene. I'm not 100% sure how close I'm going to have his face in frame, so I'll need to work that out before I start on his expression...

AJ
05-01-2005, 06:17 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1114967832_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1114967832_large.jpg)

Some more print screens of the master model so far. The hair & eyebrows are stand-ins at the moment, I might change the style/colour completely - I just don't like looking at bald models!

Now, to the pub! :beer:

eddieellis
05-01-2005, 06:51 PM
he he.... i like your style dude !:thumbsup:

arLutiK
05-02-2005, 05:28 AM
AJ

You got a super stylee i love it. :thumbsup:

Lemog
05-02-2005, 06:40 AM
The nostrils appear a little too right in front view, but it's only one small details, I love much this character :thumbsup:

Gunilla
05-02-2005, 06:46 AM
haha, love the look of that master! He looks like the type of guy who enjoys tormenting little robots in tutus, well done :thumbsup:

kmest
05-02-2005, 07:18 AM
hi.....hahahhaa.....he is too funny IMO..

i like his face and specialy his neck..too funny.....any way keep good job,i'm watching....


dont you think he will be more funny if his right eye were a little bigger than the left one??

AJ
05-02-2005, 10:10 AM
Thanks for the feedback guys! :D

kmest - I might change his eye shapes when I model his expression & break up the symmetry.

My original intention was to have have his eyes magnified enormously (so they fill up his entire glasses) in the final image.

AJ
05-02-2005, 10:12 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1115025158_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6835/6835_1115025158_large.jpg)

Just playing with a rough setup of the composition. The deadline has made me resigned to just the one bot in the scene. It does make it easier to put together but I don't think it will read as comically as I had intended...

C'est la vie!

Lemog
05-02-2005, 10:26 AM
That's can be a good way mate... in any case, a very interesting composition :thumbsup:

sonicstrawbery
05-02-2005, 10:33 AM
It's looking great AJ, i like the master face and the composition lighting, i can't wait to see the final result :thumbsup:

Ac0rN
05-02-2005, 11:14 AM
great entery, love the robots design aswell as the textures,

keep updatin' :)

dmonk
05-02-2005, 01:08 PM
Nice! I like it. And the Master looks like a good character.

AJ
05-02-2005, 01:36 PM
Thanks again for the feedback all!

Here's a quick & dirty PS of some magnified eyes:

http://www.moonjam.com/ms/composition_05.jpg

It changes the character quite a lot so I'll have to think about whether this is what I'm after. Let me know what you think/prefer...

Once again, thanks! :D

melkao
05-02-2005, 02:51 PM
HI AJ, very cool:buttrock: , i like a lot the effect of the camera (the diffuse), is natural. but apply more meshmooth to the master, because he still needed,:thumbsup:

3dRaven
05-02-2005, 03:51 PM
AJ Clone her and lose the extra tutu & you got yourself the other one..just rearange him a bit ;) The final compo looks great :thumbsup:

Antropus
05-02-2005, 04:05 PM
Very nice characters man! The old guy is veeery funny :D
Try to find some time to put two robots in your scene, man. Will be great to see some interaction between the robots :)

Keep up the great work,
Kris

ilasolomon
05-02-2005, 05:59 PM
I vote for TWO of bots! ... you should add some Romance & Drama to the scene!

This reminds me the tale of 'little toy soldier' :)

AJ
05-02-2005, 06:08 PM
Bah! Here I am trying to save time & the masses (3 of you) have spoken against me... :scream:

You are all right, the scene would have more dynamic with two bots... I'll see if I can't rustle up a dancing partner from some spare parts.

Atwooki
05-02-2005, 06:56 PM
Great concept, AJ :thumbsup:
I'd definitely like to see some magnified/bulging eyes on the 'master' :D I'll see if I can't rustle up a dancing partner from some spare parts. Oh yes!!! that lovely little girl-bot's just crying out for a dancing partner ;)

Chris

Sully
05-03-2005, 02:00 PM
Hey there Alex!!, great idea the Robot is great...Looking forward to seeing this one finished:thumbsup:

shoey
05-11-2005, 10:01 AM
This is a great entry AJ, it has to be one of my favourites in the challenge, for both idea and execution, looking forward to seeing this finished:thumbsup:

jake rupert
05-11-2005, 07:14 PM
This is fantastic. I like the idea and style.
Maybe you should put the camera a bit more from below?

;>) jake

Lemog
05-12-2005, 06:48 AM
Yet 10 days without update AJ... where are you... end is near... go Mate... GO GO GO... :thumbsup:

mv
05-23-2005, 09:50 PM
:(hope you continue that scene anyway!

AJ
05-23-2005, 09:57 PM
Sorry,

Another challenge, another unfinished entry... :sad:

(I assure you I don't start them with the intention of leaving them like this!)

Just one more case of real world happenings (weddings, birthdays, parties, Resident Evil 4...) destroying my free time.

That said, if you don't see this ballet bot again in the next few weeks - I demand you have me banned from cgtalk

mv
05-23-2005, 11:05 PM
That said, if you don't see this ballet bot again in the next few weeks - I demand you have me banned from cgtalk

that's noted ! hope you won't regret it .





:p

mushroomgod
05-23-2005, 11:58 PM
booo!

grrrrr!

ahhhhh!


and other sounds of woe!

DaVee
05-24-2005, 12:56 AM
What a pty AJ_23, you can't finished, your robot is so kind and funny. ARG!
I don't know if you'll wish to finish it later... It could be a great picture. Anyway I would have quite wanted to see it terminated.

great robot.
David.

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