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MaZzuk
03-28-2005, 08:13 AM
Maxim Matsyuk has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=6799)

Latest Update: Coloring WIP: almost end:)
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1116346632_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1116346632_large.jpg)

I just can`t get in time(((((((

MaZzuk
03-30-2005, 08:48 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1112172489_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1112172489_large.jpg)

Here I place the firs version, without main mass of characters on the steps.

MaZzuk
04-01-2005, 07:14 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1112382838_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1112382838_large.jpg)

So, I`ve start to add mass of character on the front. Here is two guards which will stop the crowd. May be I`ll change their poses to make more proper for the action.

MaZzuk
04-02-2005, 02:04 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1112450692_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1112450692_large.jpg)

So I`ve spent some time to find the best poses for the characters which will add more dynamic to the picture.

NOOB!
04-02-2005, 02:15 PM
looks great.

any reason why the woman is naked?

MaZzuk
04-02-2005, 02:37 PM
I just want to add some contrast between dirty mass of servant on the front (i want to make them rip their clothes one on other only to rich hers foot) and the shining girl, which will give the light to them.:)

MaZzuk
04-04-2005, 10:21 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1112606464_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1112606464_large.jpg)

More characters on the front, but may be I`ll change them a little later)
Now I`m want to add some action to the guards, because they`re look a little strange now))

ace4016
04-04-2005, 06:30 PM
This looks pretty good, is there a story behind it? Oh, and a little hint, when you update from the submit entry page, the thread usually won't send out an email notification to people who subscribe.

MaZzuk
04-04-2005, 08:22 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1112642562_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1112642562_large.jpg)

At last I`ve cut some hourses to update my yesterday poses to look more interesting. I think I got it:)
But the Blue one still isn`t good :(
And I didnt reach to my guards, that bad news too)

MaZzuk
04-05-2005, 10:42 AM
This looks pretty good, is there a story behind it? Oh, and a little hint, when you update from the submit entry page, the thread usually won't send out an email notification to people who subscribe.

Yes, I have one story about it, but it`s to long...) Better I describe my idea.
In this picture I want to show Masquarade which could happen only one a year. On my last update I`ve removed back wall to show the speps which is come from the very deep. And fallen people want to reach to the top where the celebration have start. I want to show contrast between what they have and what they will. On the border is standing their Master which could make them human shape insted of monster view like they are. That idea I want to show by placing one characters near by Master which will have aristocratic view but kissing Her foot to show most respect, and one character which only want to reach her but allready start to transform into normal face. Behind Master I want to show happy celebrations with salutes and so on.

So...I`ve describe my idea, and only remain is to make it reality) GOOD LUCK TO ME!!!)))

ace4016
04-05-2005, 12:14 PM
Nice idea. I'm a bit confused though by the picture: the gaurds don't look like they are trying to guard anything with all thats going on. Are the servants pulling each other? Or are there guards in the crowd keeping them form getting to the master? Maybe when you show more characters in your scene , it could explain more. It seems weird that the servants are going up ony one side of the stairs too, and the master seems so far away, but that probably won't matter. Waiting for updates.

MaZzuk
04-05-2005, 12:24 PM
Nice idea. I'm a bit confused though by the picture: the gaurds don't look like they are trying to guard anything with all thats going on. Are the servants pulling each other? Or are there guards in the crowd keeping them form getting to the master? Maybe when you show more characters in your scene , it could explain more. It seems weird that the servants are going up ony one side of the stairs too, and the master seems so far away, but that probably won't matter. Waiting for updates.

Yes of caurse I`m working on it. Guards was made before main mass of chars, so in this moment I`m trying to add action to them) I`ll try to post update today

MaZzuk
04-06-2005, 01:22 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1112790161_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1112790161_large.jpg)

Yesterday I`ve tried many poses for the guards.....But they need some corrections. First of all I desided to fill the image whith necessary characters, and only then add some corrections.

MaZzuk
04-06-2005, 09:15 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1112818543_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1112818543_large.jpg)

So I`ve almost finished my concept)
I`m gonna add one or two chars on the bottom and in the top left, then details on the background.
And that`s the best time for your comment and advises) when it is possible to do some changes )
I want to finish it in two days.

Bakalavr
04-07-2005, 12:57 PM
Seems good)
I like this but i think that the woman is very grossly(may be)
Much better then the latest one(without back wall):thumbsup:

ace4016
04-07-2005, 01:28 PM
Looking good so far. Either you're plannign to add one more gaurd, or those two gaurds are badass to fight off all those people (I still think the right side of the satirs is a bit heavy with characters). Curious to see how you will fill up the top where the master is, and the details you will add. I hope more people experienced in 2d come by that could give you better help then I am giving.

MaZzuk
04-07-2005, 06:32 PM
I want to thank everybody who have care about my work)
I`m agree with Mr. Snoopy about filling of my bottom with chars, but i will not hurry to remove`em, I think that such effect could happen beacause of coloring (it`s seems very bright and a little missunderstood)
About filling my top..... now i`ve start to work on it, trying to find something interesting solution.:)

MaZzuk
04-07-2005, 07:51 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1112899878_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1112899878_large.jpg)

So...I tried to vary my composition. I wanted to see how it is look in night colors, like I want it at the end.
I think that sky has add a lot of space behind, And the crowd at the bottom isn`t striking so much.

MaZzuk
04-08-2005, 11:44 AM
This morning I`ve desided to change the moon... and to place it behind the girl, I think it`s will add not bad accent to her person. And now I`m want to add something in the bottom-right corner it is seems too empy as for me)

MaZzuk
04-09-2005, 06:34 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1113068070_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1113068070_large.jpg)

I have changed background a little, I think it`s seems much better now)
some characters to add and front guard to change letf, now hi is cover master.

calisto-lynn
04-09-2005, 09:49 PM
nice atmosphere. good work!:thumbsup:

Arc80
04-09-2005, 10:13 PM
Interesting idea dude. You have good understanding of gestures. Keep it coming.

cheers,
Archie

Bakalavr
04-11-2005, 10:47 AM
I think - this moon behind the women to big
And erase this f....g column behind women
This broken arch unnecessary, it seems to me.
...........:rolleyes:

MaZzuk
04-11-2005, 11:59 AM
I think - this moon behind the women to big
And erase this f....g column behind women
This broken arch unnecessary, it seems to me.
...........:rolleyes:

As U can see the bottom of the picture is hevy and the top is very light, so it is nessesary to add some ellements on the top which will add ballance, I think that the brocken ark is suit for it )
That F... column, as U say will fulfill it`s place n the final image)
Thanks for Your advises!)

MaZzuk
04-12-2005, 09:44 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1113295487_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1113295487_large.jpg)

So I think this is a last versin of my concept... I have changed one guard beacause he covered Master a little and i`ve add some chars on the top, they are converse and don`t care about action in the bottom)
So I am startting my Line Art.

Arc80
04-12-2005, 11:36 AM
Nice... that's a lot better than the last one. Although, i would move the moon a little bit higher. It's trying to compete with the female character in terms of your focal point.


cheers,
Archie

MaZzuk
04-12-2005, 12:42 PM
Nice... that's a lot better than the last one. Although, i would move the moon a little bit higher. It's trying to compete with the female character in terms of your focal point.


Thanks for Ypur advise I`ll certainly try it.
I have tried to put the moon in other place, but in this case in the picture beacome more than one point, that is not what i want to achieve...may be after your advise it will look better)

Slav
04-12-2005, 01:10 PM
oh man going to be a nightmare rendering all those figures... i want to see some more updates though.

MaZzuk
04-12-2005, 06:13 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1113326014_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1113326014_large.jpg)

So I`ve start my Line Art milestone.
Here is first strokes:)

maxetormer
04-21-2005, 12:09 AM
Im just droping by to pay my respects, you work is looking dam fine,
the amosphere, and dinamics of the caracters is very well done
Ill be awaiting to see how you handle the details and anatomy
on the figures :D

MaZzuk
04-22-2005, 09:09 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1114200572_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1114200572_large.jpg)

At last I`ve start my Lineart) didn`t have much time to it, but now I will give a lot of time to my work.
Here is some characters like they will be in their end shape, or something like it)

Arc80
04-22-2005, 09:13 PM
This is looking good. Good study of anatomy. I'm liking how this is turning out and the facial expressions are great. Keep it coming dude.

cheers

Robert Longfield
04-22-2005, 09:16 PM
I love the scene composition! Nice camera angle. I was wondering if these demons are going to be semi transparent.

Good Luck!

ace4016
04-22-2005, 09:37 PM
Looking good. I hope you get to finish this piece.

beelow
04-22-2005, 09:44 PM
Woah! I like this one I like how set this one up compositionally and the anatomy is really good. Good hustle!:thumbsup:

MaZzuk
04-22-2005, 10:12 PM
Thanks for your comments) and I`m happy that you like it) As for anatomy...I`ve looked through some books about it to do my characters as close to reality as it was possible, but there still a lot of bugs)
I dont know about transparent deemons...I wantes to paint in full colors with lots of highlight on the meet and so on, but idea is interesting) I`ll think about it.

MaZzuk
04-24-2005, 02:49 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1114350583_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1114350583_large.jpg)

I`ve add one more character) not too good progres but I`ll try to add more next time)

Arc80
04-24-2005, 06:18 PM
Dammit man, just put more updates :twisted: I want to see the whole piece :bounce: LOL

Looking good dude.

cheers

MaZzuk
04-25-2005, 06:41 PM
Sorry man)) I`ll post it a little later, but i`m almost finished my demons, and got some version of my guards, hope U`ll help me to choose)

snowkiwi
04-25-2005, 07:27 PM
MaZzuk those are awesome drawings. :thumbsup:

LonTree
04-26-2005, 10:58 AM
zaebis, man! =)
are you planning on changing the background concept?

MaZzuk
04-27-2005, 01:10 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1114603826_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1114603826_large.jpg)

I`m almost finished my characters...there only some left, then I`ll do my background and only then coloring...can`t wait)

Bakalavr
04-27-2005, 01:23 PM
Really it is not bad, It is pleasant to me.
You have all chances to get in ten winners.
And the spear at the guard is pleasant to me.

MaZzuk
04-27-2005, 01:57 PM
TO LonTree (http://www.cgtalk.com/member.php?u=93238) vbmenu_register("postmenu_2209103", true); :
No I dont want to change my background...when it will be finished it will give nessesary contrast between top and bottom of the picture.

LonTree
04-28-2005, 09:22 AM
may i suggest to change poses a bit. for example, the guard on the right isn't actually able to stop anyone while holding the spear like that. if you want to push with a stick, your elbow would actually go outwards also, the mass of creeps in the middle might lack a little definition, right now it's hard to tell one creep from another. maybe change the lightness of the floor to emphasize the silhouetttes. though maybe this comment is way too early, since that might as well be done later along with coloring

'luck maaan!

ace4016
04-28-2005, 02:25 PM
Wow, I can't wait for more:bounce: . I agree with LonTree about the arms of the sooldier thrusting the spear. Also, I think maybe his foward foot should be pointing more towards the creeps (I could be wrong about that one though).

Arc80
04-28-2005, 07:22 PM
Yeah, definately agree with LONTREE about he guard, but everything else is looking good. Will be waiting for the overall piece.

cheers

MaZzuk
05-04-2005, 05:40 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1115224802_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1115224802_large.jpg)

I`m running out of time, so i wanted to finish my line art as fast as possible) now I will add other datails in colors.

LonTree
05-05-2005, 04:08 PM
coming along well, though i am a bit confused with combinations of hard lines and blurred ones, just hard to focus. or maybe on the creeps it's motion blur =)

MaZzuk
05-05-2005, 06:09 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1115312987_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1115312987_large.jpg)

First color strokes)

Arc80
05-06-2005, 10:04 AM
I think you should just stick with fine lines. Anyway, from the thumbnails, it looks like you had two moons (which it thought was AWESOME). I thought you had one big one and one small one, but i guess it's just one. I've mistaken the sky for a moon. The sky is looking great though. NIce colour choice. Can't wait till you finish it.

cheers

MaZzuk
05-06-2005, 10:13 AM
As for me I don`t like my colors on sky it is realy compete with moon.... i`ve tried to add more blue colors but in that case the scene don`t have enought light. So for now i`ve desided to keep it like this, but i dont think that this is the last version.

LonTree
05-06-2005, 11:25 AM
i think you will need some torches or other light sources - because if the moon will be the only source of light, the girl would be seen as a silouette. and i like how she looks =)

ace4016
05-06-2005, 08:18 PM
From the position of the moon, it looks like the sun is now where in site, but there seems to be orange in the sky. Looks pretty good though, keep it up.

beelow
05-06-2005, 08:53 PM
I' m very interested in how this will turn out. Looking good so far. Good Hustle!:thumbsup:

Hof
05-09-2005, 02:14 PM
The lineArt looks great!:thumbsup: I will wait for the final colouring

MaZzuk
05-10-2005, 12:11 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1115723511_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1115723511_large.jpg)

This weekend i`ve spent trying to find best style for my picture. I decided to do not work over small detail and do it in nonskid paint. I think i got it:)
And i`ve add detailes in my sky.

Bakalavr
05-10-2005, 01:12 PM
Yes, yes, the sky good.
I too can such draw.:rolleyes:

MaZzuk
05-11-2005, 05:09 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1115827779_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1115827779_large.jpg)

I`ve continued to coloring my characters, almost finished two of them)

Tranchefeux
05-11-2005, 05:34 PM
Hi, a dynamic composition, it now to take vitamin and to sleep more to
finish, gggggooooooooo

MaZzuk
05-11-2005, 05:52 PM
Yeah) I`ll folow your advice)

MaZzuk
05-12-2005, 02:42 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1115905371_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1115905371_large.jpg)

Almost every character from the bottom is finished. I`m going to start my final image in 2-3 days)

LonTree
05-13-2005, 08:18 AM
er... a man in a suit?

ace4016
05-13-2005, 08:28 AM
Didn't expect the normal guy to be there. I think the gaurd bunching whatever those things are gets lost in the darkness, mayeb try bringing him out. Hoep you make it on time.

kornel
05-13-2005, 08:47 AM
Maxi horror! nice paint! :thumbsup:

best regards: KornÚl

agios
05-13-2005, 08:53 AM
i think that is a great scene, a lot of drama...the skeletons are nicely drawn...wish you good luck

MaZzuk
05-13-2005, 11:28 AM
er... a man in a suit?

Yeah, every who cross the line transform into normal man) that`s my idea)

MaZzuk
05-17-2005, 05:17 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1116346632_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6799/6799_1116346632_large.jpg)

I just can`t get in time(((((((

xric7
05-17-2005, 06:06 PM
wow..
great...
love ur characters a lot.:bounce:
nice comp and detail.
keep going.:)

dinodog-jr
05-21-2005, 11:25 AM
nice action piece!

Please keep painting ..I am loving to see this final Image no matter how long i gonna wait!!

Keep updating!

MaZzuk
05-23-2005, 09:23 AM
nice action piece!

Please keep painting ..I am loving to see this final Image no matter how long i gonna wait!!

Keep updating!

Yes) i`m keeping painting. I don`t want to leave it cause that`s my most laborious work)
I think i can finish it in one-two week)

ilusiondigital
05-23-2005, 09:36 AM
Great image, the human characters reminder me the style of Don Bluth. Congrats and i hope to see soon the final version. See you in the next challenge or in the forums :thumbsup:

dinodog-jr
05-23-2005, 10:41 AM
ahha..Great to see u still survive in this battle!

This piece provide me one imagination of Prince of persia fighting the zombies in Dawn of the dead..

Tos Movie money-maker should do one film according this concept!...haha..

Really Fun to see tos zombie being slash by the Arabian big sword!
oopps...der is no sword in this piece...hee.

Keep goin mate!!
All of us still waiting for the update~

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