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Ant4d
03-27-2005, 02:37 AM
Anton Vill has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=6721)

Latest Update: Final Image: final
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6721/6721_1116332313_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6721/6721_1116332313_large.jpg)

final.

Ant4d
03-27-2005, 03:09 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6721/6721_1111896586_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6721/6721_1111896586_large.jpg)

hello. glad to be on the challenge. i hope i'll find the time to participate.
but here it is, my little sketch thingy. this is pretty much how far i usually go with my lineart. I rather play with light and shadow than line.. and i can already imagine how my final picture will differ from original first sketch. i usually tend to "search" for better shapes and designs while i paint.. unfortunately i have a habbit not to think things through too much. i usually have some sort of picture in my mind and i try to follow it.

Ant4d
03-27-2005, 03:17 AM
oh. i forgot to add. the idea is simple. old guy with a dog.

Ant4d
03-28-2005, 07:31 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6721/6721_1111998687_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6721/6721_1111998687_large.jpg)

this is how far i usually go with "lineart".. after that i start coloring.. so yeah.. just letting you guys know:) now the real work begins...

Claireabella
03-28-2005, 07:43 AM
Hi Anton. Well, you know that sometimes simple ideas can come out the best. As most of the judging will be on the emtion of the piece I am sure you can work up something great. Good luck! :thumbsup: Claireabella

kinnas
03-28-2005, 03:01 PM
Good day, Master

In all my humbleness I urge you, oh master, to check your composition, In my most humble opinion there's a bit too much space to the right and too little to the left, cutting the dog off a bit.


g'luck with bringing the prize home. I know you don't need it, but still : )

MDN67
03-28-2005, 03:25 PM
very good draw, i like your style, i wait the suite:thumbsup:

g-nome
03-28-2005, 04:19 PM
and look whos here :wise:

maiz777
03-28-2005, 04:34 PM
It's very glad to see you, Grand Master, here showing us some good stuff. I suggest you, guys, who's hunting some prizes here, to keep your eyes on that thread ;)
Anyway, I'm seeing something good coming out of here, just keep it going.

rawgon
03-28-2005, 06:42 PM
just looking your "lineart", i cant see how great its going to be, wonderful technique.

Ant4d
03-28-2005, 10:48 PM
thanks guys:) good to see some estonian meat here:)

kinnas, don't worry.. it will all make sence in the end.. it will work (Y) but i appreciate your comment.(i had to make some space at the bottom tho..) . i hope i have something to show some day soon.

anilduran
03-28-2005, 11:49 PM
your drawing make me curious... it seems deep and mysterious....
good working.....:thumbsup:

irahus
03-29-2005, 06:19 PM
Wonder the look of that dog. Mmm...i can feel a strong connection with it master. Worth waiting for. Good job dude! :thumbsup:

maiz777
03-31-2005, 10:29 AM
Thats already third day when I come here and what i find here, NOTHING...wanna see some updates maaan...http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/wise.gif

duddlebug
03-31-2005, 10:32 AM
OooOoh... I'm intrigued...

Lovely line art...

Silveraxe
03-31-2005, 11:35 AM
looking really nice so far. really curious about it will develop!

best of luck!! ;)

p4b10
03-31-2005, 04:58 PM
just suscribing, looking forward to seeing more!

grf
03-31-2005, 05:07 PM
I really like the pose on this character. Very moody as well. Nice.

Ant4d
04-04-2005, 09:57 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6721/6721_1112608639_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6721/6721_1112608639_large.jpg)

Hi guys. I'm bit further than this right now, but i thought i'd upload a bit more rough color wip block-in that i saved yesterday.i thought i need some more dogs as well.now the composition is pretty much set(except i'm thinking of giving a littlebittle room on the left side) i'm counting on decent rendering now. otherwise this picture is not much worth:) i'm going to aim for nice overall light and "emotion" on his face. Thanks for all the responces. They are very encouraging.

nebezial
04-04-2005, 10:01 AM
very baroque style squire, excellent lighting and colour:D

jowens
04-04-2005, 10:06 AM
I really like the way your piece is shaping up, it has a nice mood to it. I like your use of light and shadow...have one comment in that area, it might be cool to have a splash of light across the dogs (not bathing them completely in light, but just a touch). At this point the "master" stands out nicely (with the light playing across him), but not so much with the dogs.

Very nice work though!

MDN67
04-04-2005, 10:20 AM
very beautiful pic, she's like an "renaissance composition", you used a oil paint technic? Good work, really:thumbsup:

g-nome
04-04-2005, 10:26 AM
absolutely no words. u may win this game, pedekas :)

ChrisThatGuy
04-04-2005, 06:13 PM
Very nice. Could maybe use a couple more dogs. Maybe a single one that's a bit pudgy.

Arctis
04-04-2005, 07:51 PM
You probably have one of the best hand at digital painting here : makes me think of some Rembrandt scene.
Keep it up.

Slav
04-04-2005, 08:02 PM
this is a great image. you have my vote. thumbs up.

mack72
04-04-2005, 08:10 PM
Love the simplicity of the concept! The colours are coming together nicely as well! I shall be watching...!!

Tariq12
04-04-2005, 08:15 PM
Hey Anton, This is looking pretty DAMN GOOD !! I really love the mood of the piece. great colours.
Can't wait to see more.
Cheers mate,
T.
My Master & servant : http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=222506

My Web Site : www.tariqart.com

Battle Angel : http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=203795&page=1&pp=15&highlight=battle+angel

:thumbsup:

Nyrak
04-04-2005, 08:29 PM
Wow. I just love everything about this. I have nothing constructive to say...I'm just going to watch it unfold.

Ant4d
04-06-2005, 06:09 AM
thanks a lot guys. i appreciate your comments. really! today i didn't feel very motivated. but now i'm painting again.

jowens. thanks for the suggestion. i will consider it. i'm aiming so that old guys head would be focusing point. but i'll see how it comes out. thanks mate.

CodeNothing
04-06-2005, 06:17 AM
LOOKING GOOD! that left hand is deffinetly too green though. :)

Russell_Collins
04-06-2005, 07:06 AM
I love the fact that this is starting to remind me of a Rembrandt style with the contrasts building from the metal and fabrics. Very jealousy-inducing :D

maiz777
04-06-2005, 10:36 AM
absolutely no words. u may win this game, pedekas :)

same reaction here...i'm wordless...pedekas jah:)

artjunkie
04-06-2005, 10:52 AM
Wow! your amazing painting style reminds me of the old masters. Can't wait to see more updates!

Cheers!

maiz777
04-06-2005, 10:54 AM
Wow! your amazing painting style reminds me of the old masters. Can't wait to see more updates!

Cheers!

he gonna be one of them, no doubt:wise:

Miyagu
04-06-2005, 02:45 PM
hi, i like your composition a lot.. it looks indeed very "oldschool" (<--in a positive way) :thumbsup: nice work, keep it up!

i hope that can motivate a little: :bounce:

good luck!

tilite
04-06-2005, 03:05 PM
wow im amazed by this piece! the concept is so simple but the way have executed it it seems so deep... great thing! (this is proper CG art) the choice of colour is also a great thing... im subscribing to this thread... the best of luck and post asap with what ever u got.

:thumbsup: love it:thumbsup:

BaronImpossible
04-06-2005, 03:09 PM
Very nice work, great colour choices

kinnas
04-08-2005, 04:22 AM
I'm totally hating you right now : D I'm totally loving you right now, I've been waiting for this for... 13 fricken months : O
see, showing wips and works of art is cool and you get all these nice egoboosts, you should do it more often.

taavi
04-24-2005, 06:24 AM
Awesome.
Reminds me paintings i saw in Vienna's fine-art museum

(ja nagu vanad eestlased ütlesid- ANNA TULD :bounce: ! )

Ant4d
04-27-2005, 06:46 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6721/6721_1114584387_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6721/6721_1114584387_large.jpg)

hello friends.

Little color update. have to hurry up with coloring.Had some guests for few weeks, lots of work and stuff.. really hard to find time for it. I'm really stuck with left hand. can't get it right. i have painted it over and over dosens of times. but i'm sure i'll get it right in the end.had the same thing with the face as well. i'm perfectionist, so i paint over and over from start as long as i get it right. We'll see how it goes. At least i'm happy with the face i think. wonder how it fits with the rest of the pic .. anyways.. i'll try to update more often now.


Thanks for all the comments.

taz23
04-27-2005, 08:11 AM
Dude, it's like...WoW!! :eek:

taavi
04-27-2005, 08:13 AM
speech-less... :eek:
hope U manage to finish it on time !

Gianluca
04-27-2005, 08:33 AM
fantastic work :applause:

tuck
04-27-2005, 09:15 AM
a classic painting,very well done.....beautiful......
Your detailing skill is outstanding!:thumbsup:

artjunkie
04-27-2005, 11:32 AM
This is looking AMAZING! Wonderful painting... again, I love the glorious rendering of light and shadow you're using. Really feels like a piece by one of the great masters! Genious! Love the face, too... and I'm sure you'll get that hand completed to your satisfaction :D

Can't wait to see this one finished!

Cheers!

andreasrocha
04-27-2005, 11:58 AM
Great work, man! You really nailed his expression. But I think his face seems a bit skewed.Try unskewing it in Photoshop perhaps...(easier said than done). Keep up the good work!

arkinet
04-27-2005, 05:11 PM
looks great dude... kinda like my idol rembrandt... one thing i could say is HURRY UP!!:scream:

ms@zx
04-27-2005, 05:25 PM
i dont know how to put this in words but i'm impressed~the mood and the color used in this are spot on,the cloth on the right..gosh,how did u do that?~~please finish this as i'm obsessed to it nowhttp://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

MDN67
04-27-2005, 05:28 PM
very nice painting of the characters it's like the style of renaissance's painters, very good pic and very nice work

Ant4d
04-28-2005, 12:18 AM
thanks guys. I appreciate your comments. i'm quite sure i'll be able to finish it. i have a few free weekends to work on it. thanks again.

walrus
04-28-2005, 12:24 AM
Really beautiful work, like an old master (no pun intended) painting! Good luck with the hands, I'm sure you'll get them in the end...! :-)

-mike

grf
04-28-2005, 09:35 AM
This piece has a very nice mood. Looking great! I don't know if you're planning on it, but I think it would make it just that much better if you rendered a few objects subtly into the shadow areas in the background. Maybe a tapestry on a wall... and/or a candel holder on a small table or something. ...Good work! Keep it up! :thumbsup: :wip:

Arc80
04-28-2005, 06:37 PM
This piece is looking good. I dig the concept and the mood is very classical. Very nice texturing too. The left hand and fore arm seems a bit small compare to the right one. Will be checking back later.

cheers :thumbsup:

lutzw
04-30-2005, 11:08 AM
A very autonomous work with fine color composition and lively brushwork. The dogs' facial expressions are outstandingly life-like, and so are the fabrics' details.

Nice to see that you got around now, timewise, to add a lot of details to the composition. Only the dogs still have some catching up to do in that regard---will you get around to that, too? Would be a pity, if not ...

Cheers,
:) <- Lutz

MDN67
04-30-2005, 12:25 PM
If you come in france a day, go visited "le louvre" You will see magnificent paintings , I think that it you will interest because your style is really close to painters of the revival. Well, France it is far from Australia, and in more, he has to have museums there so big has sidney or Melbourne, i like your work

Ant4d
05-02-2005, 11:59 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6721/6721_1115078383_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6721/6721_1115078383_large.jpg)

Found some time on a weekend and got little bit further with colors. I got the hand right. somehow it was hard to get it right. sometimes some parts come really quickly, easy and naturally.for example with the right hand i was happy right away. but with some objects i have to mess forever to get them into harmony with the rest of the pic. anyways. your crits are more than welcome. i'll try to get the pic nailed this week. i need to work on dogs bit more. and also don't like how the sword looks etc.
thanks for your support guys.

arLutiK
05-03-2005, 02:36 AM
Anton, did you take a picture in a Art Museum

This is amazing work , really nice lighting reminds me of old oil paintings, it's just stunning can't wait to see you final.

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

kinnas
05-04-2005, 04:08 PM
türa ma ütlen. türa.

g-nome
05-04-2005, 04:20 PM
munn noh...

maiz777
05-04-2005, 05:24 PM
I was almost desperate that i'll never see any progress here, but now....you are sick....haige mees oled kyll, väga kõva, müts maha 10 korda (sota tegelt)

By the way i really like the emotion and the emotional connection between master and servant (s), really bro.

Ant4d
05-04-2005, 10:16 PM
heheh.. thanks guys.
i'm happy you like it. i'm almost out of juice and starting not liking it at all. i hope to update it today later.

arkinet
05-04-2005, 11:13 PM
:thumbsup: looking good... the right hand seems ok to me, i guess it looks big coz the other one can be seen sideways... i thnk your sword is ok, maybe some highlights but not too much... maybe a few refinement w/ the dog, and again:) not too much... overall, it looks finish to me or jst some few tweakings, coz you dnt want to lose that classic mood of the painting...

liquidwerx
05-04-2005, 11:22 PM
I agree, this looks almost done. And done very nicely I might add. =)


M

Gord-MacDonald
05-05-2005, 03:00 AM
Very nice work!



Gord

Ant4d
05-05-2005, 12:42 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6721/6721_1115296968_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6721/6721_1115296968_large.jpg)

i'm getting in the stage where i don't like the picture. uhmm.. i think the dogs need just a little little tweaks still.. and still wasting my time getting the hand where i want it.. well anyways. my head is a mess

SavageCreature
05-05-2005, 01:40 PM
Very, very nice work. Those little food seeking missiles at his feet are just a riot. You had mentioned the face being "a mess", which I would not at all agree with, though it does look like his left eye is just a smidge low to me. Beautiful stuff!

c.

Ant4d
05-05-2005, 01:46 PM
thanks for the tip. now i see what you mean. i myself saw it as a lowered brow. but now i see it really does look like a weird low eye.. anyways. i'll try to move it up just a bit and see how it looks. thanks.

PeterPuppet
05-05-2005, 01:58 PM
Beeeeautiful!:thumbsup: His right hand is kinda bigger than his left one, but as he´s got to hold that sword all day, I don´t really wonder ;) . Keep it up, dude!


peace, pete

fensterer
05-05-2005, 02:01 PM
This is looking very professional! I really like the "warm" feel of it. Maybe bring out the dogs a bit more but other than that, excellent work!:thumbsup:

AlyFell
05-05-2005, 02:07 PM
Gosh! Amazing! Classical feel to it, and wonderful lighting! Lovely work... oops, running out of compliments... :D

O.Martin
05-07-2005, 11:16 AM
Ahh... Very skilled you are. The force is strong within you. Masterful painting. Very Rembrantish... :thumbsup:

SEL
05-07-2005, 12:00 PM
Wow!

thats really amazing, almost looking like a painting. This is terrific! Keep up the great work and Ill look forwward to more of your updates! Great job!

SEL

P>S> I love the feeling I get from the guy! Great!

JMcWilliams
05-07-2005, 12:35 PM
Very pretty, I like his helmet :D and the warm colours are really nice. Don't worry about the 'hating the picture' stage, we all get that... i know I certainly do.

AdrielaSakamoto
05-12-2005, 07:12 AM
Just work through your dislike; we all get to that stage. This is just wonderful work. I love the atmospheric feel to it; and it makes me smile. Highly imaginative!



Adri

Belhaven
05-12-2005, 07:17 AM
very rembrandt like. nice mood. serene and gentle. personally, i wish you had chosen a different method of laying the color down... maybe not so smooth on everything, but its doing its job. i am led to believe an area with sharper lines and higher contrast (the focal point) would really make this peice stand out. look forward to it completed.

kornel
05-12-2005, 07:34 AM
Beautiful! Not to modern, but really great! You a Rembrandt fan? (me too) :thumbsup:

best regards: Kornél

MDN67
05-12-2005, 07:47 AM
it's always an impressive pic, the renaissance's anbiance is here, the reflect light on the dog (teckel) is very realistic, it's a great pic of art, before make numeric paint you must be make traditional paint oil no?

walrus
05-12-2005, 04:27 PM
This is just gorgeous work, Ant4d! The lighting, the pose, the texturing and subtle rendering... All really top-notch. I agree with SavageCreature about the man's left eye seeming a little low, but aside from that, the face looks perfect.

As for the issue you're having with the hands, just a few subjective observations: It almost feels to me like the front hand is smaller than the hand behind it. So you could consider blowing the front one (his left) up a little bit. Proportinately, the main part of the hand feels a bit long compared to the finger length and the forearm. Maybe just making it a bit smaller by adding a tad to the forearm could help... But hey, what do I know? Just suggestions, anyhow.

good luck with the last little bits!

-mike

duddlebug
05-12-2005, 04:42 PM
i think i said i was 'intrigued' on your first page... and then i've not had chance to browse for a while... and... and...

THiS iS JuST WoNDERFuL!!

There's a lot of images with swords and armour... and even dogs... But this just stands out as being so very very different. I love the mood of the piece.

So who's is he the 'master'..? or the 'servant'...?

Ant4d
05-17-2005, 11:55 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6721/6721_1116330907_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6721/6721_1116330907_large.jpg)

Final. Thanks for all the help. Lots of encouraging and constructively useful comments which helped this picture a lot. it was fun to paint. thanks

Ant4d
05-17-2005, 12:18 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6721/6721_1116332313_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6721/6721_1116332313_large.jpg)

final.

Ant4d
05-17-2005, 12:32 PM
hehe.. duddlebug. thanks. it's very great compliment. i admire your work and it's nice to hear such words from you:)

Belhaven - what do you mean by not so smooth? do you mean the brushes are too soft? I'm actually not sure why i did it that way. I'm still experimeting and not really using always the same technique.

Walrus - thanks for such nice long comment. it helped a lot. cheers my friend.

Mdn67 - :P cheers. I have no oil painting backround. littlebit of pastel:)

Kornel - Rembrandt:) ofcourse!.. thanks mate.

all the rest -
thanks again for the comments. i changed the eye. little bit of that cape. i kind of tried to change the hands as you guys suggested.

Jezzarts
05-17-2005, 12:49 PM
I love the lighting on his face... just like an old masters work. Congrats on finishing, you've done a fantastic job. :applause:

MDN67
05-17-2005, 12:50 PM
really a very nice pic, amazing, good luck for the end

oneka
05-17-2005, 01:51 PM
A really piece of classic artwork! Congratulations and good luck in the challenge!:eek:

Tranchefeux
05-17-2005, 03:39 PM
Hi Ant4d, Félicitations for this image, if significant and plain of
subtlety, all best for the prize list.

walrus
05-17-2005, 04:01 PM
Yay! You finished! And happy to be any sort of help.
It's just a really nice, somber, subtle piece... really masterful work.
Congratulations!

-mike

ms@zx
05-17-2005, 04:15 PM
excellent piece!the lights,the details and the realism of it..just speechless !good luck on the finals.:thumbsup:

BlacKeri
05-17-2005, 04:36 PM
Wow, this has such a classic feel to it, FABULOUS!

arkinet
05-17-2005, 04:41 PM
i agree with them, really classic. Good luck dude, its an honor to be in the competition with you:thumbsup:

flyingP
05-17-2005, 04:58 PM
hey really like this, love the mood, and the classical quality, great stuff :bounce:

paperclip
05-17-2005, 05:32 PM
How did I not see this one before?
Lovely, subtle, sort of more like Caravaggio than Rembrandt though. Or maybe Van Dyck, with a bit of Holbein thrown in...either way, it turned out really well, not overly dramatic, just quiet and calm. A nice change from some of the other entries here (like my own, I must confess)
I don't want to be a fangirl and leave without anything constructive, so I will comment on the beauty of the rendering of the fur...that is my favorite part. Either that or the edge of the fabric upon which his arm is leaning.

Good luck in the judging! :thumbsup:
theresa

Miyagu
05-17-2005, 08:35 PM
congrats on finishing this beautiful picture, anton!

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

beautiful...

good luck!

glennn
05-18-2005, 02:23 AM
Even Looks like you mate ;) Looks like you in ya 40's :)
Im hopin ya win this one buddy .. Not that i am bias or anything..
Damn fine work !!!

g-nome
05-18-2005, 09:51 AM
and we hava winner :scream:

kinnas
05-18-2005, 07:01 PM
I am a bumbling fanboy.

lutzw
05-18-2005, 07:33 PM
Hi Anton,
I wanted to say thx for dropping by to give a cheerful comment during this challenge...
Good luck for your great work,

:) <- Lutz

Sakor
05-18-2005, 09:42 PM
The Best !!!

bumbleb
05-19-2005, 05:35 AM
Your painting is breath taking... what can I say. The story you're telling and the mood you've evoked in your beautiful traditional style is enough to make Rembrandt weep :)

Kirt
05-22-2005, 05:14 AM
Anton, good luck in the final judging. I'm sorry I haven't commented in your thread prior to now, but this has been my favorite entry for quite some time. I have your image currently displayed on my desktop at work and at home (which is a first for me - I usually have different images).

This image has such a romantic and classic feel to it. It's just wonderful on all levels of composition, lighting, mood and character. I applaud your talents. Great work!

:applause: :thumbsup:

Submit it to the finished works gallery ... so I can front page it. :D

mmoir
05-24-2005, 07:50 PM
Hey Anton,
This is an amazing image, :thumbsup: :thumbsup: . Cant say enough about this image, it is just a wonderful image.

Ant4d
05-25-2005, 01:33 AM
thank you all for your comments.so many of them. i'm very plseased and surprised you like it.

Pixelpuppet - heheh.. looks like me:) well i heard somewhere that artists tend to draw faces similar to themselves.

Kirt - :) thanks mate.it's a big compliment. i'll try to post it today:)

Deniss
05-25-2005, 01:37 PM
very nice!!!

JTD
05-25-2005, 06:40 PM
After viewing every entry I would pick yours as the overall winner. It is absolutely my favorite submission. It is beautiful, emotional, captivating, charming...not enough words to describe it.



There was a lot of great quality in this contest but I feel you have surpassed your competition by capturing a very subtle moment between Master and Servant which greatly appeals to me. For what it's worth, I pick yours as the grand prize winner. Thank you for your imagination and inspiration. I hope when all is said and done that you are indeed the overall winner. Good luck.

aj_maceachern
05-27-2005, 02:50 PM
really lovely stuff, very understated feel and i love treatment of the hair on the wee dugs. very strong

mangual
05-28-2005, 01:26 AM
This is worthy of hanging on the wall at a hunter's lodge or a museum! good job

Sephiros9883
06-08-2005, 11:28 PM
That's like....wow...oh yeah, that's like 5,6,7 10 stars....:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

alseides
06-09-2005, 11:03 AM
i just thought that his right hand (viewer's left) the finger length is not correct. From the middle finger to pinky its supposed to get shorter not longer.

the skin tones are great - very soft and delicate. It has a certain glow to it that makes it very beautful to look at.

element5
06-14-2005, 01:45 AM
Nice classical piece...:thumbsup:

JTD
06-27-2005, 05:25 PM
Congratulations Anton. I loved your piece overall but at least the judges didn't overlook your submission. You're a winner to me.

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