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ebrowning
03-25-2005, 05:38 PM
Eric Browning has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=6599)

Latest Update: Final Image: Command prompt FINAL
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1116487490_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1116487490_large.jpg)

Supervlieg, Jesterspawn, you guys are awesome- thanks for those suggestions. I could have used you last week! :)
Time is up for me so I picked one element to fix because it was the most alarming- the blending together of the two characters. Hopefully his helps.
The plants are a real sore spot- they really needed more research and work. Same with the clouds- and I actually had good ref for them that I just haven't been able to find. Crap. Time to let go.

walrus
03-25-2005, 05:52 PM
Good to see you back, Eric. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with!

-mike

ebrowning
03-29-2005, 01:55 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1112108132_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1112108132_large.jpg)

"Command Prompt" is the title, and here's my concept sketch. It is simply a big robot and his master, the master has died, and the robot waits for his next command.

JasonChan
03-29-2005, 02:47 PM
Wow, I love that idea! Very emotional and right on with the theme. I loved your Space Opera piece and I'm sure this one will be amazing as well!

Tranchefeux
03-29-2005, 03:13 PM
Hi,
Good intensity of the drama I waits to see more details,
good luck.

Ilikesoup
03-29-2005, 03:58 PM
I loved your Space Opera piece and I'm sure this one will be amazing as well!

Oo! You're THAT ebrowning. . . I'll sit back and wait to be amazed. Loved your GSO entry as well and look forward to seeing you develop this idea. Very touching concept.

ebrowning
03-29-2005, 04:36 PM
Walrus, Tranchefeux, Evil Gerbil, Ilikesoup- good to see you again! Thanks for stopping by, and good lluck to all of you! I'm glad they started a new challenge so quickly.

Ilikesoup- love the Satchel Paige quote- had to go look him up and read more!

ebrowning
03-30-2005, 02:00 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1112194806_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1112194806_large.jpg)

Working out the colors- I'm happy with the direction although I'll need to add some more saturated colors. I'll hit that tomorrow. Thanks for looking!

blakbird
03-30-2005, 02:46 PM
At the first glance and/or hear it first time sounds very traditional and cliched. BUT, you have made it already original by very first sketches; the name of the picture as "command prompt" and dare to portray something so familiar in an original scope of view and bounding it with a theme of "master and servant"; i can say "brillant" for it.

I think this piece is one of the shiny scenes of this challenge. From now on you are one of my favourites.

walrus
03-30-2005, 02:47 PM
It's looking good, Eric! I kind of like the desaturated colors, as they add an appropriate feeling of melancholy to the piece. It's hard to tell exactly what you're going to be doing with the background yet... Will it just be a natural landscape? If it is, it might give the feeling that this guy just died in the middle of nowhere. On the other hand, destroyed cities in the background could lend the impression that there's no-one left alive, and no-one to give the robot any more commands. Both are interesting directions, I look forward to seeing where you go with it.

-mike

ebrowning
03-30-2005, 04:56 PM
kuzgunoglu- thanks for that!

walrus-the background will be a natural landscape, I want it to have no signs of other people so it makes sense that no one else has stopped by to give the robot a new command. I'm going for breezy and pleasant- like sitting on a hillside somewhere along the California coast. While it may be heavy handed, I think it'll make a nice contrast against the dead guy.

Cerebr4l
03-30-2005, 08:24 PM
Command Prompt...I love it! What a kick ass title and subject, I look forward to your updates.

kaparo
03-31-2005, 01:46 PM
Hi Eric

I like your idea a lot. Congratulations! I was thinking in a grave I saw in a cementery in Havana, Cuba, where I was born. A woman dead and her dog went to her grave and stood there. The family took it back home and it returned to the cementery, over and over, until it died. Amused by this, the family made an horizontal sculpture over the grave with the image of the lying woman and the dog sitted at her feet. So, about your work I think probably it could be even more dramatic that the master is lying dead in his bed with his servant in the same position waiting for an order.

ebrowning
04-05-2005, 02:16 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1112710609_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1112710609_large.jpg)

I'm starting to do the drawing now, one more morning session should do it.

tlggungor
04-05-2005, 02:55 PM
Good Luck.:thumbsup:

Matt_Forcum
04-05-2005, 04:42 PM
can you belive it! I had just about the EXACT same idea for my piece. Oh well, you were first and doing it much better than me, so it looks like its back to the drawing boards for me!

ebrowning
04-05-2005, 05:03 PM
Well thanks for the complement, Ephesus! You're welcome to continue down the same path- it's not like I own the idea. By the way, I looked at your website- nice!

Matt_Forcum
04-05-2005, 05:24 PM
eh, that darn website is so old. I havent bothered to update it with new stuff in at least 2 years. Thats on my "to do" list. You know how that goes.

thanks for the OK...I may continue with the idea, but as I am typing I am getting another idea....:)

ebrowning
04-06-2005, 12:48 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1112791693_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1112791693_large.jpg)

This is as far I'm going to take the line drawing, I think it will get the job done. I guess I could go farther, but I like the looseness of my original concept, so I'm leaving some areas to play with when I paint.

paulwdavidson
04-06-2005, 01:09 PM
I think this concept is brilliant......quite emotional and sad.

Very cool.

Thumbs up

Paul

ebrowning
04-06-2005, 01:51 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1112795506_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1112795506_large.jpg)

Using the breast plate I'm working out how I'm going to make this guy look rusty, the way a barbeque grill might look after sitting outside for two years. Not beat up, just weathered and faded with the paint coming away and oxidation happening.

W-I-L
04-06-2005, 01:54 PM
i do believ this idea is worthy of winning!!!. Excellnt.. really love it... maybe u could try more compositions though

ebrowning
04-06-2005, 02:08 PM
Thanks W!l, I'm taking that comment to work with me:)
I'd try more compostions, but between being happy with this one and having an extremely narrow window to work in, I better just get on with it. There is still such a long distance between where I am now and where I want it to be, I'll go right up to the last minute with this.

Vectorius
04-06-2005, 02:54 PM
very good work.. feel emotional..i like robot and yours is great !!

felicitations
Good luck !!!

walrus
04-06-2005, 03:46 PM
Well, the textures are definately working. The torso is really feeling weathered so far! I'm not sure I "get" the concavity in his chest (with the red light) having a funny shape like that, like why it would be designed that way. But it's looking cool so far, and I like the colors for him.

-mike

ebrowning
04-06-2005, 04:21 PM
Thanks, Fiolka! Yeah, I love robots.

Walrus- AH yes, the shape on the chest. You know, it was one of those things that happened in the original thumbnail, and I thought I could either straighten it out or push it further; sometimes an asymetrical detail works well. This, apparently, is not one of those times. I'll straighten it out, the lights are a really important detail so I want them to work.

camtheman
04-06-2005, 04:24 PM
ebrowning,

I loved your Grand Space Opera Challege entry, this one looks like it's going to be very cool as well. Can't wait to see the final... :bounce:

My M/S entry:

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=227140&highlight=Cameron+Gardner

My GSO entry:

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/5392/5392_1105418166_large.jpg

Slav
04-06-2005, 04:25 PM
this totally speaks to me. great work! some heavy AI influence there... mortality vs immortality.



i love this thing.

GhostInTheMachine
04-06-2005, 05:04 PM
the drawing style is really good, and the watercolour painting look is excellent also. wel done! :applause:

tilite
04-06-2005, 05:46 PM
this is great... i think this is a really emotional piece... perfect for judging.

i love it..

have u heard the story of the dog on the tuckerbox?... australian thing lol.

love this piece... deffinetly be back

ebrowning
04-06-2005, 06:02 PM
tilite- I want to hear about the dog on the tuckerbox- is that the same story the other guy brought up about a dog at it's master's grave?

GhostInTheMachine, Slav, Cameron Gardner...thanks a lot for stopping by- your compliments are a great boost!

Squibbit
04-06-2005, 06:07 PM
this is a good one cause it's like touching,
but it shouldn't be cause it's just a robot, but
still thru my human eyes , it is, hehe :thumbsup:

tilite
04-06-2005, 06:34 PM
ok the dog on the tuckerbox legend!

ok so when u drive interstate on the large highways and there are these different towns with different legends that try draw in all the tourists... yeh well it was kinda like a glorafied place like that in victoria, australia. the place has like a massive muesum of all this bushranger stuff (u know ned kelly shit). and out the front there is a massive fountin of this dog sitting on a box imortalized there as a great monument of this dogs obedience love and strength. oh yeah and its set in country austalia (bush not dessert) in the 1880's

ok so i think thats all the background u need.

the story... "so there was this bushranger living like 5km out of a regional town.. he lived there under a tree with a box for his food(tucker)/couple of rags... basically all that he owned, and a dog.

so being an outlaw and wanted by the law the owner would sneak into town to steal some food... maybe some jewlery... or walk to the nearest road and hold up a horse and carridge for the owners money. now as u can imagine the bushranger cannot carry this box with him so he leaves the dog there and gets it to sit on this tuckerbox to guard it."

now as the legend goes..." the bushranger went and held up a horse and carridge... got a big loot too. he got the owners cloths.... change into them(first time in months he had new clothes) and decided to take his money and go drink at the pub in town.

so he gets drunk has a great time telling his stories and someone tips off the police. the ploice walk straight into the pub, drag him out and shot him on the porch."

so u can imagine this poor dog still sitting on the tuckerbox. the legend says that the dog was found a full week later dead in the upright position sittin on the tuckerbox. the bushranger that found the dog said he had been there for atleast four full days without moving.. without water... without hunting without even moving... just obeying his master and waiting for him to return.

ok i got a lil carried away sorry it was so long... lol nothign i can do about it now... lol

Nemein
04-06-2005, 10:02 PM
heheh - I'm not a big fan of long elaborate backstories for every image; I'd rather see the story through the picture itself, than have it be told.
That being said, I like your image very much - you could almost immediately form an entire story just by looking at the picture. Love the concept you've got.

I just feel the color theme is a tad too light - but of course, this is all still WIP. I'll be sure to check back for more :)

ebrowning
04-08-2005, 02:28 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1112970486_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1112970486_large.jpg)

Working on the "guts" of the robot, just figuring out the technique still.

grafik
04-08-2005, 04:44 PM
Hey

interresting concept u developed!!! really like the set ure doing!keep up! gonna wach this!

my MASTER & SLAVE:
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?p=2138465 (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?p=2138465)

ebrowning
04-08-2005, 04:48 PM
Thanks for putting it all down for me, tilite! Great story! My dogs would be digging in that box as soon as I was out of sight. Then they'd wander off and get eaten or find a new owner. And that's if I'm gone for over 7 minutes.

kaparo
04-09-2005, 03:08 PM
Hi Eric
I can see the good evolution in color. The metal tones are goping great but I still feel the composition is too tight. The robot seems to be traped inside the borders and there is not much of the background wich is important since it must shows the quiet solitude around. I think adding more space around them will help. Good luck!

JasonChan
04-09-2005, 03:54 PM
It's coming together nicely! What if you made some plants actually starting to grow out of the robot since he's been waiting there for so long?

The story kind of reminds me of an episode of Futurama where Fry's dog waited for him in front of the pizzaria he worked at not knowing that Fry was frozen. He waited there until he died and was foscilized... I forget how. Very touching :)

birdybear
04-09-2005, 04:12 PM
Great entry. There is great subtle emotion to the robot. I can see you have great skill. Can't wait to see more.

GhostInTheMachine
04-09-2005, 04:44 PM
i agree with whats been said in the last three posts. there is something good about having grass/weeds whatever, growing on your robot - maybe even bird mess like on a statue. it looks like he may have only just found his master rather than having been there since his death. also, like kaparo said, you could do with more emptiness - so try switching to landscape format.
the robot needs more hard edged paintwork, its all too blurry at the moment. sharpen that up with oil, rust etc and itll look good. enjoy :thumbsup:

ebrowning
04-09-2005, 07:30 PM
You guys are dead on with the weeds comments, if you look close I have indicated where I'm going to put them in. My kids have a swing set in our yard and it's base is overgrown with clover, I wanted to do something like that.
As far as the technique goes, I will definitely tighten up the robot, I'm kind of slowly poking around to get the texture but I want it to be tight (in contrast with the softer landscape.

Kaparo- I'm going to take your advice and play with the composition, it's heartening though that you get where I was going with it

Thanks for the great crits, you guys!!

tilite
04-10-2005, 05:08 AM
i think the weeds creeping up his legs are fine but i think it would be really cool to have like a single flower sprouting from his shoulder joint.

kind of bring some bright colour and natural beauty into the piece

ebrowning
04-11-2005, 06:50 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1113202208_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1113202208_large.jpg)

Continuing work on the robot, along with adding room on the top and left. This is by no means final, I still need to decide exactly how to frame it. Also, some of the plantlife indication is gone for the moment, but it's still on a layer. after I get the robot a bit more dialed in I'll lay in lots of clover-type greenery crawling up the corpse and robot. Long way to go yet but I'll make it.

Zephyri
04-11-2005, 08:35 AM
This is a wonderful subject for the challenge, as said before, it shouldn't be particularly touching, because it's a machine, but there's something quite sad about loyalty like that, even if it is automated. I think it's certainly helped the picture to extend it a little. The robot still feels a little squished against that right hand side, just pulling him in ever so slightly would perhaps help. Also, as you've extended it, it might be nice to add some close up forground elements, maybe like some over grown mossy rocks, or perhaps a weapon stuck in the ground with an old and tattered standard attached to it? I think that would give the viewer more of a sense of looking in on a scene long forgotten. I really like the idea of the natural moor-esque background though, a lovely counterpoint to the robot. Great concept so far, can't wait to see how it comes along.

artjunkie
04-11-2005, 10:47 AM
Wow. This is a great concept... very sad (even though we're feeling for a machine, sigh... silly humans). I really like the extra room you gave your composition. Y'know, if you wanted, you probably could widen the landscape even further by extending it to show more on the right - giving the piece a wide view of, say... a barren, empty landscape to enhance the droid's lonliness (I know it doesn't FEEL alone, but it IS alone).

*shrugs* just a thought.

Keep up the great work and I'll look forward to your updates!

Cheers!

W-I-L
04-11-2005, 10:59 AM
Colours on the metal i like alot.. and depth is working.. just lovin it all really

tilite
04-11-2005, 12:35 PM
i think the weeds creeping up his legs are fine but i think it would be really cool to have like a single flower sprouting from his shoulder joint.

kind of bring some bright colour and natural beauty into the piece

ok thought u might have skipped my post but i really liked the idea of the flower out of the joint so thought i would post again lol

calisto-lynn
04-11-2005, 02:15 PM
i wouldnt like to interfere, your skills are great, but i'd like to give u awarning. did'nt in the challenge rules write.. there has to be a human figure which is able to express its emotion.i really like your fluid colouring, so i wouldnt like u to be on a wrong way, even without human faces u can make a great dramatc atmosphere.. keep em' comin'

W-I-L
04-11-2005, 03:24 PM
just relised you were the fourth runner up on space opera... i was wishing for yours to win... most original and highly emotytional.. not to mention the clours... i loved your stuff mate.... hope this ends up just as great!

ebrowning
04-11-2005, 05:19 PM
Zepyhri I'll try moving pulling the robot and scene away from the right side, I think you're right, especially now that I did it with the rest of the image. Originally I had even thought of a tree being there, but I don't particulary want to tackle a tree and it might be a little "much" anyway. As far as a weapon or standard in the foreground, I want to keep his death ambiguous. For all I know he could have died of gangrene, I always thought of him as an explorer or Robinson Crusoe type, hence the remote location.

artjunkie You're right on, and not the only one to suggest that so you must be right! I think I'm going to have to spend some quality time monkeying with those borders.

W!L- Thanks, man, I really appreciate it. And thanks for calling me "mate"! I live in California, so it sounds really cool when I hear that. http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon13.gif

tilite SORRY! I thought I responded to that. I like the flower idea too, I just have to find a way to do it and make it seem natural.

calisto My dead guy isn't expressive enough?http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon10.gif In GSO the biggest ding I got was a lot of people thought I was way off track, if nothing else at least I'm closer this time. My reasoning would be that I think there is nothing more human and expressive than a skull. Aside from an actual face, of course.

ebrowning
04-12-2005, 01:55 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1113314119_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1113314119_large.jpg)

My wife, who's an illustrator, has been on me about the composition, just like you guys. So here's a change, I think it works a lot better but I want to see what you all think.
I also blocked in the spaceman.

calisto-lynn
04-12-2005, 02:43 PM
i apologise. i did'nt watch it from that angle. i like your works though..:)

JasonChan
04-12-2005, 03:05 PM
Looking great. That's a deffinite improvement with the composition. The more finished areas of the robot are really coming along nicely. This piece is going to look amazing when it's done.

Also, i think you're right on with the theme. Who could be a more loyal servant than a robot who waits by your side even as your corpse rots?

W-I-L
04-12-2005, 03:19 PM
The composition is much better...

How come you liked me calling you mate? Why it sound cool? Are you from england and miss it or just like it? Do tell . . . . mate!

This reminds me of an episode in futurama (for any fans out there) of where Fry finds the preserved corpse of his dog, and in flashbacks it tells the story of him and the dog. At the end, when Fry gets frozen for a thousand years the dog waits for hijm in the smae spot by the pizza parlour for something like 15 years... waiting for his masters return...
which is why i am really annoyed because i saw that way befoRe the compatision and wiSH i had done something like this... o well that train has erm.. sailed? Hang on trains don't sail . . . DOH!

ebrowning
04-12-2005, 04:27 PM
calisto Don't apologize- I'm just happy to have someone take the time to comment!
Evil Gerbil As always, thanks.
W!L You'd have to have been raised in America I think to understand how much we enjoy hearing anybody from England, Australia, Ireland or Scotland (or Wales, or New Zealand or South Africa too I guess) talk. So when you guys say things like "mate", well, it just sounds cool. And I'm probably uncool for mentioning it.

I have to watch that futurama episode- Evil Gerbil mentioned it too.

NOOB!
04-12-2005, 04:30 PM
looks lovely!!

walrus
04-12-2005, 05:02 PM
Eric - Great work so far. i like how the details on the'bot are progressing, and I like the suit color for the man. Compositionally it's working okay, but I feel like the scale is a little odd now. The robot just looks HUGE comapred to the man. (Just its upper thigh is the size of the man's torso. Granted the man's torso is now a but shrivelled, but that 'Bot's gotta be 12 feet tall... Wow!) Anyhow, add the fact that the man's body is now more obscured by plants and it's really served to deemphasize the master and play up the servant. I know that that's sort of the point of the piece, after all, it's about the robot who is still... um, 'living' isn't the right word, but you know what I mean... but I liked it when the master had more presence because obviously he's still the central focus of existence for the robot.

anyhow, that's just me. It's still looking good, and i look forward to more updates!

-mike

ebrowning
04-13-2005, 04:39 AM
Only for you, Walrus! I think you'e right though, I scaled the big guy down, he's still bigger, but not quite the colossus he is in my last post. It actually gives room for a bit of sky above him, which I think works well. I'll post again tomorrow.

tilite
04-13-2005, 05:46 AM
the compo has deffinetly improved... the relationship between them looks more intimate now.. just because of the size

each update this work gets so much better i can only imagine what what it will look like at the end..

i don think that the backgroud is way to pastely atm.. some richer colours and detailed sky would be great

great job mate

ebrowning
04-13-2005, 02:07 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1113401265_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1113401265_large.jpg)

Reduced size of robot, worked more on the general robottiness of it.

W-I-L
04-13-2005, 02:35 PM
W!L You'd have to have been raised in America I think to understand how much we enjoy hearing anybody from England, Australia, Ireland or Scotland (or Wales, or New Zealand or South Africa too I guess) talk. So when you guys say things like "mate", well, it just sounds cool. And I'm probably uncool for mentioning it.

I have to watch that futurama episode- Evil Gerbil mentioned it too.

Hey just read evil gerbils post where he mentioned the episode of futurama, crazy! great minds think alike. My accent is kind of strange now, more international.. i was born in london, got a london accent then moved to posh hampshire, then when i was 17 moved right on the other side of the world to new zealand (funnily enough) and lived there for two years, which really softened my accent and gave it a wierd twang at the end of every sentence. now i live up north of england near the city of York (the original and old) and am starting to get a bit of a northern accent. And now i am in the middle of getting a canadian visa to come and live there so who knows... tune in next week for more tales of extremly boring crap.

W-I-L
04-13-2005, 02:36 PM
i like the reduced size by the way.

walrus
04-13-2005, 03:50 PM
Only for you, Walrus!
Aw, shucks!
Anyhow, I think it's working well now! Now to get back to the renderring... :-)

-mike

ebrowning
04-15-2005, 02:10 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1113574237_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1113574237_large.jpg)

Values on robot need more work, will do that next and finish him. I hope.

W-I-L
04-15-2005, 02:15 PM
what ever you do it will be great... your last pic was my favouirte on grand space opera.. i do not lie... i think it would have one had it not been for the fact that it was slightly off target of grand... but this here is spot on target, and looking greta... can not wait to see finale. Will be voting!

calisto-lynn
04-16-2005, 06:40 PM
its great! i love the background, and the colours are great! isnt a robot a bit too dark for a sunny day?:)

twoheaded
04-16-2005, 06:46 PM
love the textures man. I personally think it needs a little bit more drama.

JasonChan
04-16-2005, 07:06 PM
It's looking great! The bit of rusty dirt texture you can see on his outer thigh is just awesome!

ms@zx
04-16-2005, 08:46 PM
this is very nice mate,just a thought,the color scheme u have for the kneeling mech seems to me like its actually in a night scene ,it actually makes me think of a night environment due to the blueish and yellowish hues that cast onto the mech.for now,i'm not sure if the color of the mech fits the morning bright environment~maybe its just me:)i'd love to see this work till the end of it~

keko
04-16-2005, 09:13 PM
I love your Grand Space Opera very much and I'm sure this one will look amazing when it's finished. best of luck

Mythmaker
04-16-2005, 11:28 PM
Coming along well. I really like the idea - certainly among the best I've seen :)

tilite
04-17-2005, 05:28 AM
from the lighting on the dormant robot... it seems like ur headign towards a sunset theme.. i think this is great ive had a real issue with the sky and the background... this could definetly help especially with the new intimace found with the new compo

keep it up

artjunkie
04-17-2005, 12:05 PM
Amazing how a little toolin' around with the composition can make a huge difference and make it 'feel' so much more comfortable. I like!!! :applause:

Great work on the robot too! Machinery & robots are things I don't illustrate too much (tried during the Machine Flesh Challenge), so I'm just amazed to watch how you build up its metalic shapes, hues and textures. Great stuff!

I rather like the fact that the dead human (more specifically, his skull) seems to approximate the cold steely face of the robot! Nice subtle dynamism there...

Keep going! I'm really lovin' this piece. Can't wait for more updates!

Cheers!

GhostInTheMachine
04-17-2005, 12:31 PM
i wont crit just for the sake of it! this looks great, i really like the bright and clean looking world in which itis set.
good work! :thumbsup:

*impulsive twitch* seagulls

ebrowning
04-18-2005, 04:47 PM
W!L- Thanks, that's really good to hear![[][][

calisto- Yes, I think you're right. I always tend to go dark, it's a bit of a crutch. I'm going to need better reference for this.

twoheaded- You may be right- maybe it needs more drama, I was actually going for the opposite. I guess we'll see if I can pull it off. I have my doubts.

Evil Gerbil- I'm glad you noticed that! Now if I can just get the rest working.

ms@zx (ms@zx)- You are so right. What I want is the feeling of a rusty, sunlit car body in a junkyard, hot and dry looking. Like I told calisto, I need better reference. I'll keep trying.

keko- thanks for that!

Mythmaker- I need to hear that- I'm at that point where I make it or break it I think. Thanks.

tilite- Well you're the third to comment on the lighting (since my last post), something needs to happen. I really want the daytime- I'm thinking sunset would be a bit redundant since a sunset all by itself can convey a lot of the same emotion as the scene is trying to do- maybe that's what I need to do anyway. If I can't get the robot's lighting to work, I'll try a sunset.

artjunkie- hey thanks! I like the pose of the two heads, It just happened that way, nice to hear some good feedback on it.

GhostInTheMachine I'm RESISTING the urge to put seagulls in only because I just did that with some heron-like birds on GSO. I like the birds.

Well it's time to go find better photo reference for lighting on the robot, thanks you guys!!

Zephyri
04-18-2005, 05:02 PM
Your rendering technque is lovely, and from the odd areas you have real detail worked in it looks like this work will be something special. I really like the fact it isn't dramatic, that it is quiet and still. Though you put birds in the GSO entry, I really think this piece would look great with the odd bird as a counterpoint of movement to the stillness of this scene. Once the lighting is unified, it will look fantastic. Keep up the great work.

ebrowning
04-19-2005, 02:08 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1113919691_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1113919691_large.jpg)

I'm reworking the colors and pulling away from the blues- I really do want a daylit scene. Got a ways to go with the robot, but here's a start.

Vectorius
04-19-2005, 02:16 PM
YEAH! Yeah!! The robot look better in brown..good choice...:thumbsup: Maybe can you put some impacts on him..details ..i know..but i love details!!!

Keep it up!!

Matt_Forcum
04-19-2005, 03:48 PM
Bring back the number 5. that was a cool little detail.

Also, what about some grass and vines growing up and around the arms and body of the robot. This would make him look as if he has been there for quite some time waiting for the next order.

GhostInTheMachine
04-19-2005, 03:58 PM
:thumbsup: works!

maybe a dove...nah

walrus
04-19-2005, 04:03 PM
Well, that color scheme certainly does abetter job of putting him in daylight and conveying that he's been there for a while. I like the streaks of dirt and grease all over the plating to add age. Some paint - either areas or a number or whaetever, with paint flaking off could work too.
You're not to the really picky detailing yet, but when you eventually get tehre I have one word for you: cobwebs! :)

Anyhow, good changes! Keep 'em coming!

-mike

crowley
04-19-2005, 04:28 PM
Ha, very nice! Your colors choice really improved the lightning and the overall picture. I like it a lot.
No real critic for the moment, except that I agree with Ephesus: the number 5 was pretty cool :)

calisto-lynn
04-20-2005, 11:35 AM
much better! it looks great now!:thumbsup:

ebrowning
04-21-2005, 02:02 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1114092163_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1114092163_large.jpg)

I went over the whole painting, putting the robot aside so I can get everything to the same level. Blocked in plants, and sky and put the 5 back in. :)

GhostInTheMachine
04-21-2005, 03:07 PM
cool. everything now looks great. the quality of light is the best aspect of this image. top marks! :thumbsup:

i'd be so tempted to turn that barrel shaped part on the robots belly into a mountain rescue dog whiskey barrel. :)

Vectorius
04-21-2005, 03:12 PM
OOHH YYEAAHHH:buttrock: ! It's an amazing work!! probably that which I prefer!! Very good job...you should perhaps add a little bird on robot's shoulder..no?:)


GOOD LUCK!!

camtheman
04-21-2005, 03:18 PM
love the update, the colors are very nicely thoughtout...just keep posting...just keep posting...

:buttrock: :buttrock:

my MS:

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?p=2191882#post2191882

3dway
04-21-2005, 04:05 PM
I've been just spending my lunch flipping through the 3d and 3d entries, looking at the most recent update image. I have to say that his is the only one so far that has stirred an emotion in me. On top of that the painting looks good. I expect to see this one as one of the winners... but then again I do have hundreds of entries to flip through still.

arkinet
04-21-2005, 04:44 PM
love the updates, keep posting:thumbsup:

LaVolpe
04-21-2005, 05:08 PM
I just saw this for the first time and like some others on this thread, I'd like to say that your interpretation of the theme is one of the more orginal and compelling that I've seen so far. I'm interested to see where you take this!

j

kornel
04-21-2005, 08:29 PM
Very nice classical scifi illustration! Clear, peaceful and makes me sad... but i love it! :thumbsup:

keep posting

best regards: KornÚl

Supervlieg
04-21-2005, 09:21 PM
Im liking this one mucho!

There's something about skeletons in a space suit thats really good. I think the scene needs a cracked helmet somewhere. Or just a helmet somewhere next to the body. Like the air wasnt breathable after all on the strange planet.

Signing up for updates.

paperclip
04-21-2005, 09:29 PM
I love your concept and textures! Oh and the sky as well!
I think you should put some more rust on the main character and also some trailing moss or weeds creeping up him, make him look as if he's been there a looong time.
Also, I'm sure birds would make use of his shoulder....you may not want to use that suggestion though :D
Keep it up! Lovin' this one!
paperclip.
p.s will you crit mine for me? Please?

tilite
04-22-2005, 12:01 AM
relly progressing now nice stuff. i just noticed the '5' n was thinking that it would be a nice touch to outline it with the orange paint from the masters suit, of possible u could paint a panel (only 1 but a complete 1) in the orange so its kinda a sign of ownership.

and any more recent thought about this flower possability??

MLongfield
04-22-2005, 12:48 AM
I really like this so far. The robot is mourning his dead master. I also love how even though he's been dead for a long while, the robot never left his side. It's also touching because it conveys that robots do have emotion.

Good job!

cgkrusty
04-22-2005, 06:21 AM
Just beautiful Eric... This is definitely one of my top 5 in the 2D category.

:bounce:

ebrowning
04-22-2005, 01:33 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1114176819_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1114176819_large.jpg)


I started putting in some of the comments I've been getting repeatedly:
The splotchies in in the sky will be birds, there's a bird and nest on the robot (I'll tighten that up later) and FLOWERS. Tilite:).

ebrowning
04-22-2005, 01:35 PM
There's the begining of a tangent started running from his face down to his thigh where he meets the sky, I think if I do something with the far arm I should be good.

calisto-lynn
04-22-2005, 01:40 PM
hey it looks great now. :thumbsup:

JasonChan
04-22-2005, 02:12 PM
Looks great, Eric! The new colors on the robot deffinitely make it look more like warm sunlight. The bird's nest is also a nice touch. The piece is really coming together!

ms@zx
04-22-2005, 02:40 PM
thats what i'm talking about~the color is spot on and welldone on the surface of the mech..it looks really solid~http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

Vahn
04-22-2005, 02:57 PM
a very nice entry :thumbsup: colors & lightning are fantastic... i love the bg :D

Zephyri
04-22-2005, 03:39 PM
Looking very impressive now mr browning, the texture of the droid's surfaces is gorgeous, and having the greenery growing up him like that tells you instantly how long the scene has been such. I cannot stop looking at how masterfully those clouds are done... even in such simple strokes, you've captured the very essence of cloud forms in the bare minimum of colours. Don't mind me, I'm a cloud nut. All great, as far as I can see. No crits!

BlacKeri
04-23-2005, 12:02 AM
How am I stumbling upon this entry only now?
Well what can I say - SUPERB. I absolutely and ultimately ADORE your idea. And As the shading of the robot shows - you sure have the amazing technique to boost as well! Well what can I say more, I am now very curious to see it done :)

artjunkie
04-23-2005, 01:41 AM
Wonderful rendering, my man... oh, and I LOVE how the orange of the human's suit pops (lovely accents of purple in the robot too). Great colour choices :applause:

This is gonna be a masterpiece... I CAN FEEL IT! :D

More, please... MOOOOOORE!!!

Cheers!

LouisBrowne
04-23-2005, 01:52 AM
I like this a lot. Brilliant idea and composition!!

I don't really like the background, & think the colours in a ambient sunrise would sit better.

igorstshirts
04-23-2005, 01:55 AM
I like the mid day sun... It has the feeling of life going on, with or without the hero. Looks great so far... I'm not sure if you've ever seen a book called Spacewrecks... You'd probably like the illustrations. Later!

tilite
04-23-2005, 08:21 AM
awesome... flowers!!! haha such a great piece

jeromoo
04-23-2005, 12:41 PM
what a great choice of colours! The Robot looks well done! Looking forward to the finished version!

P.S. Does skeleton qualify as a PURE human?

W-I-L
04-23-2005, 12:44 PM
man.. really seeeing it coming togtehr now...the way you define your stuff is very inspiring... hope this to will be in the top once again.... the metal is very well done

cyberarts
04-23-2005, 01:29 PM
I really like the concept. I am almost sad for the robot.

Good work!

GhostInTheMachine
04-23-2005, 02:26 PM
excellent. the birdies are going to add so much. work some fine details into that foliage and you'll be close to finishing this - well done :thumbsup:

ebrowning
04-23-2005, 10:56 PM
calisto,Evil Gerbil,ms@zx (ms@zx), Vahn,BlacKeri, W!L,cyberarts, GhostInTheMachine- Thanks you guys, I appreciate all the encouragement!

Zepyhri -I love clouds too, I used to live in San Diego and the clouds that would come in off the desert were staggering, I've never seen anything like them. I took pictures a few years ago and wanted to use them as reference but still can't find themhttp://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon8.gif.

Louis J. Browne - Yeah, others have suggested a sunrise/set as well, it certainly would work. I guess I really wanted to see if I could do a fully daylit scene.

jeromoo - I'd say a skeleton qualifies as "pure human", just not "complete human"http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

artjunkie the orange suit is based on a space shuttle suit, but even more on memories of Space:1999 and the book "Inherit the Stars" (which I was shocked at how close my idea is to it- I looked it up yesterday. Kind of embarressing).

igorstshirts- I have to find that book- but I remember it! Love that stuff.

tilite You wore me downhttp://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

camtheman
04-24-2005, 12:18 AM
i really like the direction this is going, keep up the great work!!

Tris3d
04-24-2005, 10:11 AM
Just seen this post and your space opera for the first time and really really love your work! I think you are going in the right direction and hope you stick with the daylight theme! Good luck!

Japion
04-24-2005, 10:45 AM
Boah nice very entry man!! Love the composition!! The robot is the hammer!! Good luck man!

ajsa51
04-24-2005, 02:22 PM
I really like your concept and sense of color! Really nice work. :applause:

Personally, I think this should win, or at least be in the running.

Best of luck in the challenge!

g-nome
04-24-2005, 02:41 PM
oh christ, this is another bomb.

Dreamshark
04-24-2005, 02:56 PM
very nice work due, I love the clouds, very smple. But other than that...it's a wonderful image. Good luck Farmer Brown.

xric7
04-24-2005, 04:56 PM
nice work
realy cool idea..:cool:
and excellent paintin skill.the scene is very beautiful.
waiting for more.good luck


http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=227677 (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=227677)
my MandS tod

weslouie
04-24-2005, 05:07 PM
Hey, Eric. Nice stuff. You still working at the big M? I used to work over there too, with Joe, Roel, Roland, etc...never met you though.

LexLe
04-25-2005, 11:56 AM
Good idea!!! h
Execution is excellent!!!
But only it seems that it would approach as an illustration to a fantasy of 60-70 years
? I think that the robot (servant) is not programmed for work in an independent mode
And a jack on the robot-is magnificent!
Very much it is pleasant to me! :)

MoonVisionStudio
04-25-2005, 12:08 PM
Great concept, looking good.

paulwdavidson
04-25-2005, 12:17 PM
Lovely............nice touch with the bird's nest.............very nice.


Keep up the good work

Paul

sirBS
04-27-2005, 04:32 PM
Excellent idea and technics of execution. :thumbsup:
I very much like the robot
Good luck!

tAstyBITs
04-27-2005, 08:41 PM
I like it a lot. I haven't read through all the comments but mine would be... Maybe if you definded light and shadow a bit more since he's being lit by sunlight.

Nathellion
04-27-2005, 09:45 PM
More sober than some of the other pieces...I like it a lot. Keep going...

beelow
04-27-2005, 10:27 PM
Good stuff! I have never been in this one looks good. Good Luck. I wish I had the time to read some of the back story to this. Sorry bout that. But, anyways I like this one. :thumbsup:

stevethomas
04-28-2005, 12:55 AM
Great concept. You almost feel sorry for the robot for having to wait so long for an order.

racrufi
04-28-2005, 01:36 AM
Hi Eric,

I like very much the design of your robot, can see clearly how they parts work....
Almost... I can read the mind of the robot...maybe some human feeling????

Good luck!
Racrufi

jeromoo
04-28-2005, 01:42 AM
I was thinking what a stupid robot it is. LOL.

How about adding rusts and bird droppings on it. maybe some birds perching on his heads and shoulders.

I know you haven't finished this piece yet, but already you have achieved a particular emotion with it!

All the best, mate!

grf
04-28-2005, 09:18 AM
This is nice! And a sweet idea! A very emotive piece, considering there's no "living" human in the piece at all. (Sorry in advance if I repeat other's comments. I don't really have time to read through the whole thread.) It'd be great if the human was holding something meaningful in his hand. A trinket of some kind....

One thing: My eye seems to start at the robot's "eyes" and then down his body to the human and across to the skull....The space above the skull feels a bit empty. Not lopsided empty, just... it needs something to bring the eye back around to the robot's head. Maybe two or three small branches jutting up from the bush (from behind the skull) in the direction of the robot's head. Something subtle.

Great work, man! :thumbsup:

Vectorius
04-28-2005, 11:40 AM
:thumbsup: !! You add a bird that's great!!..great addition i think..more drama..:) I will come back soon see evolution..

calisto-lynn
04-28-2005, 02:13 PM
good work, man!:thumbsup:

Rodrigue
04-28-2005, 09:47 PM
This piece is one of my favorites, I really like the subject
I can't wait to see the final version

:thumbsup:

lutzw
04-30-2005, 10:12 AM
Among the scifi entries, I find that this one conveys a most beautiful emotional touch. Not a "heavy touch," mind; rather a progressingly lighter touch as the work proceeds.

I think it's a pity, though, that the environment is much less detailed and less structured than the droid. Is that intended, to create a contrasting effect, or are you going to add details later? With the space suit too, I think, certain accentuations are called for---maybe adding some light reflections would do the trick?

Cheers,
:) <- Lutz

MDN67
04-30-2005, 12:19 PM
Very emotional pic, with a great realization, i like this composition, good work:thumbsup:

spacesnail
05-01-2005, 10:24 PM
Hello

you've got a great touching picture :arteest: and a great style too !
It reminds me of a short novel by Lester Del Rey ("To avenge man" or somthing like that)
Are you going to do a trilogy ? I can't help myself compring this picture with that you've done for GSO...:twisted:

Anyway this is great !

Manu

ebrowning
05-02-2005, 01:51 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1115041864_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1115041864_large.jpg)

More work on plants, robot.

TheFirstAngel
05-02-2005, 02:11 PM
Hi Eric, dunno how i missed your work yet, its awesome, and if a robot can particulary be sweet, yours is :). The Story is simple but works fine, the composition somehow reminds me the bretagne, landing coast in ww2, i almost can smell the salty air of the sea. keep on rocking, love your work:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

weslouie
05-02-2005, 02:13 PM
Its looking pretty good, Eric! I love the textures on that robot.

GhostInTheMachine
05-02-2005, 02:48 PM
the light on the chest plate is very good. the foliage is looking natural in volume (overgrown to the right degree). good work. :)

monsitj
05-02-2005, 03:16 PM
nice progress so far! your style alway amaze me! I like the relationship you show in your image! good job Eric!

ebrowning
05-02-2005, 04:30 PM
Thanks everyone for the encouraging words! Home stretch time.

R Frederickson (http://www.cgtalk.com/member.php?u=49828) vbmenu_register("postmenu_2217853", true); - I'm hoping the birds (little gray smudges right now) will accomplish what that- good point.
jeromoo (http://www.cgtalk.com/member.php?u=39578) vbmenu_register("postmenu_2216705", true); - Bird droppings! He'd be white by now:)

lutzw- I hear you- I'm still working on the landscape portion (hell, I'm still working on ALL of ithttp://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ) I really do still need to work on the BG.

spacesnail That story sounds REALLY familiar- I'm positive I read it as a kid. I'm going to go find it.

W-I-L
05-02-2005, 06:37 PM
too good. the robot is truly amazing. Vegetation is looking right. just keep pushing it... big fan man!

PascalR
05-04-2005, 09:17 AM
I love your technique and as everyone already said,the robot looks great:thumbsup:
Keep up the great work!
Pascal

ebrowning
05-06-2005, 01:48 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1115387284_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1115387284_large.jpg)

Plant work. General tightening- which is about what I should be doing from here on. Also sunk the dead guy's head down a little more.

RichTee
05-06-2005, 02:14 PM
Really good....really good

May i suggest that if you're going to place a bird nest on the robot, then the robot would probably be covered in bird crap....a grim observation...but a fair one:)

It also appears as though these characters are somewhere coastal, places like this are often subject to high winds...maybe give the lighter grass a more wind swept appearence, like a uniform direction moving inland ?

Needless to say i've liked these posts from the out, very evocative. Excelent work mate, look forward to seeing more in the coming days. Well done and good luck

MacDoodle
05-06-2005, 03:20 PM
Your piece is looking great! It's one of my favourites - both the concept and the image itself.

There's one thing that's bothering me about the composition. Everything pulls me to the lower left edge of the piece. There's the background slopping downward, the angle of the clouds, the line of birds in the sky, the direction the robot is looking, the angle of the vegetation and of course the skull. I think it'd be quite easy to fix or change. One thing I'd suggest is to change the slope of the background, just the hills and mountains. Having them more level or even slopping towards the robot would help keep the viewer's eye flowing through the image. Some tweaks to the clouds may help as well.

If you see my point, I hope this helps. Otherwise, looking forward to seeing the final piece.

Good luck!

Goro
05-06-2005, 03:25 PM
I love the metal shading. Looks really cool.

The Birds in the background create a strange diagonal line through the head of the
Robot. I think it would be better for the composition when they fly more randomly.

keep it coming!

ebrowning
05-06-2005, 04:40 PM
bumphluff- Good point- I think I'll try and work in that windswept appearance. And as far as the birds go- well the very fact that there are seagulls, and this is a blulff, that poor tin man should be covered in white. I think it would be nearly impossible to pull that off without making it hilarious. But you're right.

Goro I was wondering when somebody would call me to the mat on those birds- I don't know, I just like them. I realeze it's wierd and makes some sort of cryptic compositional statement, so I may still change them (or at least soften it). Thanks!

xric7
05-06-2005, 05:21 PM
hi ebrowning.
nice color.love the way u paint metal suit.:bounce:
keep it up.
cheers.:buttrock:

NOOB!
05-06-2005, 05:44 PM
i luv it,i like how in the clouds u only use a few strokes,yet it looks really realistic,i dunno if its in early stages but still looks great!

JasonChan
05-06-2005, 10:34 PM
Looks great, Eric! The vegitations is coming together nicely. Good choice in avoiding the bird crap, too :) Are you going to be rendering out the guy's suit any more?

andreasrocha
05-07-2005, 08:13 AM
Wow Eric...you really nailed it with this entry. I like this one even more than your GSO entry...this one looks really balance and your control of vibrant saturated colors is admirable. Great work...

NinjaA55N
05-07-2005, 08:48 PM
Love that emotional moment. And the technique is very good with those clearly seen brush strokes. keep up the good work!

demonicoz
05-07-2005, 09:06 PM
Wow this is really coming along nicely, I love the way you have started tightening it up, its looking well smart. Also love the whole concept, nice to have one painting in the challenge with a bright sunny sky! I think sinking the guys head has really improved the composition, makes the body look a little more helpless, also looks much more dead. Keep it going.

I hope you have a few seconds to Check out mine and let me know what you think :
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=234420 (http://showthread.php/?t=234420)

All feedback very appreciated!!

kerembeyit
05-09-2005, 09:45 AM
Great concept! Good luck.

W-I-L
05-09-2005, 12:12 PM
i not worthy:bowdown: :bowdown::bowdown:

ebrowning
05-09-2005, 12:18 PM
MAACDOODLE-
Great suggestion! I'm going to try that on the background.

Evil Gerbil- yes- this week.

Back to painting!

ebrowning
05-09-2005, 01:52 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1115646750_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1115646750_large.jpg)

Worked on BG- (thanks, Macdoodle!)
lots of pushing and poking.

flyingP
05-09-2005, 02:18 PM
nice concept, love the style.

not yet too sure about the birds though I find them a bit distracting at the moment

Diogo
05-09-2005, 02:56 PM
your image is so COOL!

I love it

Good Luck!! :thumbsup:

PeterPuppet
05-09-2005, 03:28 PM
Nice, cool, simply beautiful :thumbsup: . The dead mans leg needs more detail tho (and his suite). What the hell am I talking? You know that better than I do :rolleyes: . All right, here┤s my official statement: Awesome! Keep it up! Oh yeah, the birds look kinda weird imo.


peace, pete

calisto-lynn
05-09-2005, 03:55 PM
this has developed greatly, looks beautifull!:)

pejot
05-09-2005, 05:53 PM
this is a great concept and seems to become a great image.

GhostInTheMachine
05-09-2005, 06:50 PM
very nice additions, cant wait to c the greenery finished..

mb you could bleach the skull white, a little, i think that'd look better.

good work! :thumbsup:

Falcorr
05-09-2005, 07:17 PM
Great work!

I wish you will still continue working on the master. He looks bit out of detail.

userBrian
05-10-2005, 03:09 AM
I like the melanchollic surrealistic mood, with the bright Magritte blue
new day sky. Cool. The rusty feel to the armor too.

Boldtman
05-10-2005, 03:45 AM
Wow, this is awsome. The idea is absolutly awsome. My only crit would be the background brush strokes of the cloud and sky kinda change to an outline close against the robot. Maybe it was supposed to look like that like a halo effect or movement or something. Just caught my eye, and that was it. I really like the fact that you can do beautiful digital artwork without having it be hyper focused. This has a really good look to it, in fact i think your style even adds to the story told in the image. ....grain of salt right? Fantastic.

Jezzarts
05-10-2005, 06:08 AM
the number 5 is a nice touch, brilliant :)

walrus
05-10-2005, 06:31 AM
Coming along beautifully, Eric! No crits here for me, but I will note that, 'though it seems like I'm in the minority, I really like the birds. They keep the composition from being totally dead. Stick by your guns and keep 'em! Good luck finishing up...!

-mike

Vectorius
05-10-2005, 07:01 AM
YOP what's up Eric?:) A very good image!i want really see what you going to do with the final image...very amazing work and great feeling...Keep going on this way!:applause:

ebrowning
05-10-2005, 01:42 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1115732555_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1115732555_large.jpg)

Finally started on the astronaut, still need to finish him, tweak the birds, the clouds, finish the robot...well, everything still needs noodling. I've got just enough time.

I'm using just about every comment I get to some degree, so thank you! The compliments just fuel the fire:).

DernierCri
05-10-2005, 03:15 PM
wow! that is truly amazing idea. I can almost feel the years passing through, the soil and plants covering the robot shell day after day. The general feel is: time is gone forever, yet the servant is still a servant far after the master has died. Probably that feel can be enhanced if the astronaut's costume looks a bit more rotten and old. This will put even more contrast to the green of the grass... and make the time perspective even stronger.
anyway truly amazing as I said. I can't wait to see the progress and the final entry.

Digitalpepper
05-10-2005, 04:32 PM
I really like your concept and story behind this art. I'm looking forward to see more detail on the decompose body.

Tranchefeux
05-10-2005, 05:17 PM
Hi Eric,
There are truths light in your painting and large a dramatic
intensity on the subject like the your GSO, all best to finish. :thumbsup:

walrus
05-10-2005, 05:59 PM
Eric - I see you changed the color of the light on the Robot's chest. Being the same color as the sky, more or less, it reads a little now as a hole right through to the other side. I can see wanting to make it brighter, but another color may serve you better.... What about Amber, the sort of yellow-traffic-light Wait" color...? Anyhow, just an observation.

-mike

ebrowning
05-10-2005, 06:14 PM
Walrus- DOH!
I was trying to make it LESS amber- I want it to be different from everything else because I think it's a really important detail. You're right- it's now a hole clear through his chest.

DernierCri- I'll do that (make it more rotten).

GhostInTheMachine- bleached it a little bit for you! - maybe I'll do more

The Peteboy- began detailing the dead guy- including his leghttp://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

paperclip
05-10-2005, 06:36 PM
Eric-great stuff!
Maybe make the birds a bit smaller- keep them where they are and how they are. I love them, they just look a tad big!
Keep it up! :thumbsup:
theresa

birdybear
05-11-2005, 07:03 PM
Beautiful! Simply Beautiful!I Thought this image would turn out great. Just one little tidbit: The clouds behind the robot could maybe use some smoothing in one area... but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about...
GOOD LUCK :cool:

stevethomas
05-11-2005, 11:46 PM
Don't know if anyone has suggested this yet, but the blue light on his chest almost blends in with the blue sky. At first glance it looked like the robot has a hole in him. Maybe a different colour for the light?

Awesome image, regardless. I can't help but come up with a story about it in my head.

camtheman
05-12-2005, 05:08 PM
Hey Eric,

love the progress sor far, your pieces are very touching. What about a bird perched on the robot? If someone already suggested that or if you've thought of it and discarding the idea...sorry for not following your thread more closely.

Anyway, great work...and good luck!

my M&S:

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?p=2272378#post2272378

ebrowning
05-12-2005, 05:43 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1115919790_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1115919790_large.jpg)

Addressing all the great crits I'm getting- did some work on the clouds (more to go still), messed with the birds, started tightening the robot more.

I will still "age" the dead guy's suit.

monsitj
05-12-2005, 06:16 PM
wow ! look awesome! i really like your style! one thing that I think it's work( for me) is orange light at robot body , you change from blue to orange? i think it's look great ! good luck !eric

DernierCri
05-13-2005, 02:23 AM
the robot definetely looks much tighter and finished. The yellow light is a certain "yes!" and it gives it more "out of this world" look, so make sure you don't use it anywhere else in the image... I think. I know you haven't finished the background but maybe the mountain on the left hand side is a bit too perfect shape. Clouds look nice. Everything is cool. nice progress. I can't wait to see more details in the foreground...

NinjaA55N
05-15-2005, 01:06 PM
I didnt read all the whole thread, so I probably missed the story behind it. Could u just tell me if I think right... the deadguy is a master who died some time ago.. and a robot his servant staying by his master all that time? And to show that u put some green plants on the robot? Im sorry coz I didnt read everything, but im so in lack of time, that I rather ask and hope u wont be mad :/
A true masterpiece!

ebrowning
05-15-2005, 04:06 PM
Cameron Gardner- there's a bird tucked in the robot- you have to look for it! I'm still working on it.

DernierCri - I'll work on that mountain.

NinjaASSN- No problem- it's called "Command Prompt", and basically the robot is waiting for a command from his master that will never come. The light on the chest is meant to show the robot is still "alive". So yes, you had it right!

tilite
05-15-2005, 06:44 PM
unfortunatly for u... but fortunatly for us :P u have done a great texture on the servant and that needs to be replicated over the image accordingly... so i hope it doenst come down to a sleepless night.. but who are we kiding where in the CG buisness ;) :wink:

oh anbd by the way... love the flower:thumbsup:

ErwinM
05-17-2005, 10:15 AM
I like the colors in this painting and the lighting is great. Good job Eric.

paperclip
05-17-2005, 10:23 AM
It's really turning out well! You don't have much time left though:sad: I think you should make the mountain at the very back a little more foggy-- at that distance, it surely would not be so clear. Also, introduce some contrast in the plants in the foreground, that will help the depth. Aside from that, you're doing an amazing job! :thumbsup: I really enjoy looking at this picture.

Keep....going...
theresa

Tariq12
05-17-2005, 10:24 AM
I love this piece man, it's freaking FANTASTIC. Love everything you've done to it. GO, GO GO...!
good luck in the final. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Cheers,
Tariq.

ebrowning
05-18-2005, 06:25 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1116397544_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1116397544_large.jpg)

Limping across the finish line here. E3 is tomorrow so I'm afraid this is it- I feel like a charaltan. If anything comes up in the next few minutes I may do one more quick tweak, then I'm uploading it.

Thank you everyone for helping me with this- I think I used every comment I got to one degree or another.
Big thanks to my wife- I'm glad at least one of us listened in art school.

ebrowning
05-18-2005, 06:52 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1116399153_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1116399153_large.jpg)

Limping across the finish line here. E3 is tomorrow so I'm afraid this is it- I feel like a charaltan. If anything comes up in the next few minutes I may do one more quick tweak, then I'm uploading it.

Thank you everyone for helping me with this- I think I used every comment I got to one degree or another.
Big thanks to my wife- I'm glad at least one of us listened in art school.

ebrowning
05-18-2005, 07:15 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1116400532_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1116400532_large.jpg)

Two minor changes- texture on some of the gears and a change to the mountain (that was done and got lost at some point). All uploaded.

paulwdavidson
05-18-2005, 08:41 AM
Congratulations on a fine piece.


My Favourite concept in the challenge.

Good luck

Paul

Vectorius
05-18-2005, 09:21 AM
Very good picture! nothing to say!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: I love your robot! He's looking very great and the texture are simply beutiful!! :applause: great job man!! Good luck!:scream:

xric7
05-18-2005, 09:34 AM
very beautiful image.
realy love ur idea.
congrats on ur final and best luck to u.
:applause: :applause: :applause:

JasonChan
05-18-2005, 01:58 PM
Amazing as always :) You have a knack for quiet, yet dramatic storytelling. Good luck in the judging!

3dmiao
05-18-2005, 02:20 PM
very nice pic,sentimental and beautiful
good luck!

wuxi_dakar
05-18-2005, 05:25 PM
great image:thumbsup:

MDN67
05-18-2005, 05:31 PM
really a nice pic, very emotional; a great work. Good luck for the end

arkinet
05-18-2005, 05:32 PM
very touching bro, & this image came out great!! good luck!:thumbsup:

NinjaA55N
05-18-2005, 05:35 PM
One of the most emotional pics in this contest. Its sure one of the greatest as well! good luck :)

crowley
05-18-2005, 06:21 PM
Love it. The concept itself is excellent, and the picture is even better, full of emotion. Congratulations, and good luck with the judging :)

Supervlieg
05-18-2005, 06:48 PM
This is one of my favs. Some points that need attention in my opinion:

-The foliage needs more love.

-The clouds are very cartoony, the shapes could be more naturel.

-The bird in the nest is hard to make out. He should be more defined.

Keep it up!

Jesterspawn
05-18-2005, 07:49 PM
Wow, I must agree with what has been said; the idea behind this is hands-down one of the best of the challenge. (Not to mention that it is exectued very well!)

There is really only one complaint that I've noticed, and it has just snuck into the last few versions of the picture. If you look back when the robot had the blue light, the robot's color was quite different than the orange color on the astronaut's suit. In the past few versions (including the latest one) the colors on the two figures have grown toward each other. As a result, a first-time viewer who wasn't familiar with earlier versions (I showed this to a couple of my co-workers and they both mentioned this) has trouble processing that there are two figures in the picture.

At first glance, it now looks like a robot with hard-to-distinguish legs sitting near a skull, instead of a robot kneeling next to the body of his fallen master.

I hate to offer a complaint like this so late in the contest, but I felt like your concept was too awesome for me not to. Feel free to disregard if you disagree. :)

Still, great work. One of my favorites.

andreasrocha
05-18-2005, 11:37 PM
Wonderful finish Eric. You'll be in one of the top places for sure. You've got my vote.

ebrowning
05-19-2005, 07:24 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1116487490_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6599/6599_1116487490_large.jpg)

Supervlieg, Jesterspawn, you guys are awesome- thanks for those suggestions. I could have used you last week! :)
Time is up for me so I picked one element to fix because it was the most alarming- the blending together of the two characters. Hopefully his helps.
The plants are a real sore spot- they really needed more research and work. Same with the clouds- and I actually had good ref for them that I just haven't been able to find. Crap. Time to let go.

element5
05-19-2005, 01:41 PM
This is a great idea and well presented, The image looks finished to me. The plants are secondary...the main focus is the 2 characters...what a sad scene withe robot looking down on him....well done :applause:

Supervlieg
05-19-2005, 01:53 PM
Supervlieg, Jesterspawn, you guys are awesome- thanks for those suggestions. I could have used you last week! :)
Time is up for me so I picked one element to fix because it was the most alarming- the blending together of the two characters. Hopefully his helps.
The plants are a real sore spot- they really needed more research and work. Same with the clouds- and I actually had good ref for them that I just haven't been able to find. Crap. Time to let go.

Cheers, I was to busy last week to do any work on my entry, let alone comment on your piece. Sorry about that.
Anyway, your piece still rocks. And I think you got a good shot simply because the idea behind it is really strong.

Good luck with the voting!

CoreyArtE
05-19-2005, 02:01 PM
Really cool idea! I know you dont need to hear it from me but, goodluck! You have some talent man!

Jesterspawn
05-19-2005, 02:30 PM
ebrowning, it looks great, man. Job well done. Best of luck to you in the judging!

theuni
05-21-2005, 06:04 PM
Hi Eric,

really nice image you painted here ! I really like the strong impression of time one gets watching it :thumbsup: :applause: :thumbsup:

TheFirstAngel
05-21-2005, 10:41 PM
Eric, as i said earlier, your piece is outstanding and most beautifull. loved it always. just came to congratulate you on your wonderfull finnish, and to wish you all the best in the upcoming final Judgment! best of luck mate!

paperclip
05-22-2005, 12:23 AM
I agree with Element5, it is a very sad image. The robo makes me think of a loyal dog or something...dying by his master's side.

V. cool picture-- but I know you can do better than this! You didn't put as much time into this as into some of your other pics. It still has a lot of potential that you didn't pick into. I hope you take this in the spirit in which it is given- as appreciation for a beautiful picture that I want to see fully realised. Please consider giving it the full treatment, it would be a service to humanity!!! :D Yes, really!
Having said that...I still love it...and will keep an eye out for any new stuff from you.
Hang in there man, results will be out within a couple of weeks!!:scream:

Deletedaccount
05-22-2005, 02:45 AM
That looks damn good! I realy love your style! :thumbsup:

ebrowning
05-22-2005, 05:40 AM
element5, Jesterspawn, theuni, HardcoreRaver, the1st_angel, CoreyArtE, Thanks for the kind words, I don't think there's an artist in this forum who doesn't appreciate it when a peer stops by and takes the time to post. Thank you!!



Supervlieg- I hear you on the "busy" part- you're in the games industry, right? EVERYONE was busy last week! Too bad E3 coincided directly with the end of this contest.




paperclip- ACK! One of my inner voices has an account on CGTalk!!

digital-bobert
05-22-2005, 01:51 PM
I love how you painted the clouds. so nice and fluffy and nice cartoony feel to it as well

phoboalien
05-22-2005, 02:22 PM
eric I love this piece, it reminds me of the iron giant cartoon! the colours u choiced and the drama of the scene. good luck, see u
phoboalien

Nigel-Q
05-22-2005, 07:18 PM
this is amazing work. the colours, rendering, lighting and composition all incredibly well done here and above that the theme is expressed so beautifully.

i think this one deserves to win. nice work.

walrus
05-23-2005, 05:15 PM
Hey, Eric, just getting back from E3 and getting the chance to look at everyone's finished works. Great job on this one, all the way from original and interesting concept all the wya through to this finish line. Great work, and congrats!

-mike

camtheman
05-23-2005, 08:03 PM
Hey, I finally found the little beakster! chirp, chirp! Cool dude. Nice work BTW, I love the way the colors came together on this to enhance the theme...feels very warm, tender and emotional...

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

My M&S:

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=227140&goto=newpost

blakbird
05-24-2005, 09:43 PM
idea was good. And the artwork is good. Clean work.
Best wishes.

tilite
05-25-2005, 03:09 AM
this turned out great. your finnishing touches really paid off. gj

i love it:D

IlCattivo
05-25-2005, 08:48 PM
This one slipped me by, like it a lot.

adel3d
05-25-2005, 08:54 PM
Excellent work!
good luck!

Gord-MacDonald
05-25-2005, 10:22 PM
Good Luck! Another beautiful image :thumbsup: . I loved your Grand Space Opera as well. (Can't wait what you have for us in the next challenge)Gord

jadecilcleton
05-26-2005, 12:49 AM
this piece is armazing bicentenary and beaultiful!!! I stay few minutes loking into your draw and found it with a deep relationship of loyalty! congratulations! good look and sorry my english!:thumbsup:

K. Scott Gant
05-28-2005, 11:41 AM
I really like this piece. It's also very emotional as the robot is at a loss without his master...yet cannot do anything else until he receives his next order. Very sad.

ms@zx
05-30-2005, 08:28 AM
:scream: another fine piece from a challenge yet again.good luck in everything and anything.see ya around!:)

LonTree
05-30-2005, 10:32 AM
nice idea... and great delivering! your work makes me feel

levent
05-30-2005, 01:34 PM
super man
i like it
good luck;)

TheFirstAngel
06-28-2005, 04:13 PM
congratulations on your award! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

walrus
06-28-2005, 04:26 PM
Congrats on yet another win, Eric! Nice work, I always knew this'd make it into the winners circle! :)

-mike

camtheman
06-28-2005, 06:31 PM
Hey Mr. Browning, way to go on the win!! You deserve it!

ms@zx
06-29-2005, 01:45 AM
congratulation mate!see u again in the next one!http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

DernierCri
06-30-2005, 10:25 PM
congrats on the runner up man! I really hope we were somewhat helpful.
looking forward to the next chalenge...

artjunkie
07-01-2005, 11:18 AM
Dude, I'm so happy you got in the top ten with this one!!! I just love it. Congrats, and I hope to see you again in the next challenge my friend.

Cheers!

Vingador
07-04-2005, 08:27 PM
Amazing work, man that image is very immersive and emotional... poor robot. :/

Like the little robot kid in "A.I" when he stay underwater preying for that saint for 2.000 years.

LexLe
07-08-2005, 01:48 PM
Dear Eric!
My sincere congratulations on a victory!
Very much it is pleasant to me as you you work,
That is you draw
Creative successes!
:) :applause: :bounce: :thumbsup:

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