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Miker
03-25-2005, 04:39 AM
Michael Nguyen has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=6530)

Latest Update: Concept Sketch: doesn't work
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6530/6530_1112229894_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6530/6530_1112229894_large.jpg)

im not very pleased with this composition and i have to admit i didnít do much planning. i was having difficulty relating the concept of master and servant with my illustration, because originally i thought that i would make the girl in the centre the servant; however i found that that would just not work because she is in the centre and is the focus of attention. by her being in the centre she somehow conveys power and dominance even though her posture is demure and meek. i think i have found a way to make the girl both master and servant thanks to suifayís idea. in my next concept i will make the girl the master to the two girls on either side the servants. however, the girl is also prisoner and servant to her surroundings and hence the sorrowful and trapped expression on her face. also the girl lying naked in the foreground serves no purpose, so i will take her out of the image.

Miker
03-25-2005, 08:01 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6530/6530_1111741272_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6530/6530_1111741272_large.jpg)

ahaha very very rough concept so far. my idea here is to have a dominant female being surrounded by other beautiful naked females. i love the black negative space so ill keep that going. So far so good I hope.

Miker
03-26-2005, 04:46 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6530/6530_1111816001_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6530/6530_1111816001_large.jpg)

Iím still really playing around with this concept. I am going to add a long blanket that is partially covering the main female and all the other females are holding and tugging onto the blanket. This gives the impression that these females want/desire the master female.

Miker
03-26-2005, 05:49 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6530/6530_1111862952_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6530/6530_1111862952_large.jpg)

i got a bit anxious so i started adding some facial features to the main character. i decided to change the lighting so its not directly behind her back.

NOOB!
03-26-2005, 05:51 PM
ah! un-explained nudity the perfect concept,haha

great work and good luck!

teknotek83
03-26-2005, 06:24 PM
You've got some nice rendering, here. Hope to see more soon! Good luck!

Miker
03-26-2005, 06:58 PM
thanks guys

a friend of mine questioned whether she was the slave or the master. originally, i was planning to make the girl the master, but now that i look back at the image, she doesnt look like she has the confidence and its as if her body is resisting the other females around her. im actually going to go with the reversal and play with her innocence some more.

Miker
03-27-2005, 06:05 AM
*uploaded the wrong picture sorry*

Miker
03-27-2005, 06:10 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6530/6530_1111907446_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6530/6530_1111907446_large.jpg)

still roughing out the composition. i thought i'd put in curtains in the foreground and background to give the piece a sense of depth. i shouldnt be adding any detail at this point but i was tempted. anyway, ill try not to work in anymore detail at this point and get the overall composition going. when im done with that, ill try another concept to see what i come up with.

Rhenia
03-27-2005, 06:20 AM
Good Luck....I'm just wondering what the situation is?....she looks a lil timid, so I'm just curious on her position in the piece...I know its just rough beggining. Can't wait to seee what you produce.

eclipson
03-27-2005, 06:25 AM
nice sketches, not clear with the concept, but who knows how it'll turn out.

GoodLux!:thumbsup:

Miker
03-27-2005, 06:27 AM
i really want people to judge for themselves what they see and what they think is happening, but heres the lowdown in one phrase: she is a prisoner of the royal life she chose. hope that helps

Rhenia
03-27-2005, 06:53 AM
So its almost has if they are gathering around the prey......I'll wait till you put out a lil more...before i try to loose myself in its idea

Jack Youngblood
03-27-2005, 10:52 PM
Nice drawing. What's going to happen with the curtains? Think they would look good if they were a bit more off-symmetrical.

Miker
03-27-2005, 11:17 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6530/6530_1111969036_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6530/6530_1111969036_large.jpg)

had some spare time so i sketched in 2 ladies. ill probably add another lady behind the slave girl. thats it for now.

siufay
03-28-2005, 12:47 AM
Hey Miker, instead of making the ladies trying to seduce her, make them tend to her needs....hell even make them bathe her to stick with the nudity. But sticking with your idea of a prisoner of royalty, make her weep. So in a sense she is the embodiment of master and slave. You might have to change the environment a bit though to give a sense of royalty....well these are just my thoughts, see whatcha think! Good Luck!:thumbsup:

Miker
03-28-2005, 01:03 AM
hey, thats a really interesting idea suifay and i like it. thatll require a new composition but im sure i could reuse the slave girl. ill come up with a rough concept of it later on tonight if i have the time. in the meantime ill be thinking about what i could do. thanks for the great idea. kudos

Arctis
03-28-2005, 07:29 AM
interesting direction here...
I'm curious to see more.

Miker
03-28-2005, 08:40 AM
i can play with the curtains sure, ill do a couple of them
thanks for the feedback :)

CoreyArtE
03-29-2005, 06:17 AM
Omg I love this . Feels emotional...I think you should go with a monochromatic color scheme for this piece. I like it alot, please continue the good work.:thumbsup:

Miker
03-30-2005, 11:44 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6530/6530_1112229894_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6530/6530_1112229894_large.jpg)

im not very pleased with this composition and i have to admit i didnít do much planning. i was having difficulty relating the concept of master and servant with my illustration, because originally i thought that i would make the girl in the centre the servant; however i found that that would just not work because she is in the centre and is the focus of attention. by her being in the centre she somehow conveys power and dominance even though her posture is demure and meek. i think i have found a way to make the girl both master and servant thanks to suifayís idea. in my next concept i will make the girl the master to the two girls on either side the servants. however, the girl is also prisoner and servant to her surroundings and hence the sorrowful and trapped expression on her face. also the girl lying naked in the foreground serves no purpose, so i will take her out of the image.

victim335
03-31-2005, 12:31 AM
HOT. Keep the idea, and yes composition is kinda unplanned

TheFirstAngel
04-01-2005, 08:44 PM
it would maybe help to "turn the camera around 180 degrees the scene" and put up the master on a higher level. the details look very good yet. keep it up

bloodi tearz
04-07-2005, 12:56 AM
the pretty naked ladies are coming along, the faces and shading look really good too. but the girl lying down in the middle with her butt showing is a little random, she kind of steals the center of attention away from the one thats squating in the middle...unless she's supposed to? and the seducing/bath is a nice idea, it mixes in with the royalty prisoner thing nicely. maybe add chains on the prisoner...
best of luck mike =] and olivia says she hopes you win lol

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