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snowkiwi
03-23-2005, 04:15 PM
Donnie Shellman has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=6255)

Latest Update: Final Image: Elephant Spirits
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1116494378_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1116494378_large.jpg)

Armed with just wooden sticks Lead (Led) and Synoui (Sin-noo-yee) two masters of their bodies, are able to avoid or deflect any attack pushed at them - Masters of Unfighting. They will not harm anyone. They are like the wind that brushes the oppositions face, and glides right past them as they move forward to save the elephant.

In this scene, the elephant being beaten is the sacred white elephant that has been a symbol of peace throughout Noui's neighboring kingdom. For these wicked men to destroy their symbol of peace symbolizes wickedness is conquering all peace in their land.

Synoui is looking at the cut off tail of the elephant in Lead's hand appalled at the sight. She is very calm in character but she can't help but to break down into tears to see the cruelty the elephant has to endure. The tail serving also as a reminder to what must be done helps them gain the courage to face the charging army guarding the whipped elephant. Being stranded on this tropical island with no one else to help they take it upon themselves to rescue the dying sacred animal.

The elephant being beaten to lifelessness sends an aura of help to signal a higher power. The signal transcends into the higher spirit realm to call for immediate help. The godly figure who acts structures/influences events directly to lead Lead and Noui to find the tail.

The land has been stricken with a drought of metal and their byproducts. No guns can be used so the army of these islands fight with hard-plastic spiked-clubs instead.

Lead and Noui both have radiating glows that are shaped as butterflies.
The butterfly symbolizes the animal spirit of transformation and soul evolution. They must transform and evolve to have the courage against impossible odds.

* With a grand spirit, a person will face any hell to do what is right. Your spirit is the true master, your body the servant.


-The Elephantea Story-


Related Links:

Movie Titles (http://www.donnysnow.com/Movie_Titles_Frameset.html)
Isabella (nudity) (http://www.donnysnow.com/Isabella_Sheet.html)
Poetic Sun - website (http://www.donnysnow.com)

NOOB!
03-23-2005, 08:23 PM
hi! gud luck!

snowkiwi
03-23-2005, 08:29 PM
Hehehe - your very kind. Thanks Noob.

snowkiwi
04-18-2005, 10:55 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1113864899_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1113864899_large.jpg)

This is more about getting the image in my mind more clear, rather than making it more clear on paper. After all, the mental clarity of your mind is the best tool.

snowkiwi
04-18-2005, 11:00 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1113865227_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1113865227_large.jpg)

I still don't really like to finalize anything because I really don't have the concrete look of anything. I just have the idea I am going for. I won't, because I am just a start-out painter and still exploring everything.

Groady
04-18-2005, 11:04 PM
Bit hard to tell what's going on at this stage. What's the story behind it?

snowkiwi
04-18-2005, 11:05 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1113865520_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1113865520_large.jpg)

The colors may look different on your monitor and not look like what is planned. I have a Macintosh so the gamma settings are hugely different. May look way darker or lighter than what actually is on my monitor.
This is after much work is done. I will still work another 2 days on the girl to make her more real looking.

Ducklator
04-18-2005, 11:07 PM
emmm.... what suposses that you want express?:scream:


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my master n' servant concept:
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=227831

snowkiwi
04-18-2005, 11:07 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1113865675_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1113865675_large.jpg)

I still not happy with how the girl looks.

snowkiwi
04-18-2005, 11:14 PM
Hello Ducklater,

Everything on the scene is not put in yet. So it' really hard to see what I am trying to say. The girl is crying but I haven't really put that in yet. I don't really want to reveal too much of the idea yet. But I will say that the space between the couple and the elephant is supposed to be a dark army charging after them.

snowkiwi
04-18-2005, 11:16 PM
I hope Groady that the helped you see a little more of what I am trying to say. :buttrock:

Dulshad03
04-18-2005, 11:18 PM
Hey! great progress, my man.
I like the skin tones and the clothing colours really work!:)

snowkiwi
04-18-2005, 11:28 PM
Wow, thanks Dulshad03.

snowkiwi
04-18-2005, 11:30 PM
You must excuse my excitement. This is probably the first time that I got a compliment on my artwork - the first time I came out.

HOON
04-19-2005, 10:38 PM
very interesting so far!

rendering on the girl is getting really nice.
persponally, i find Hair to be an element that you can be really creative. not just the style of hair, but you can have strings of hair do alot of different things. maybe you can try doing somthing interesting with her hair.
i do find your work so far is very promissing. keep it up, and let see what you come up with next ^^

fensterer
04-20-2005, 02:52 AM
I think it's coming along nicely. I agree with Hoon that her hair needs some more movement in there somwhere but other than that it's looking good!

snowkiwi
04-20-2005, 05:43 PM
(My internet connection, so I had to rewrite everything.)

Thanks Hoon. I got a reply from someone! It's very odd that even with over 1000 entries entered no one is stopping by to say hello and give some comments. I guess I got to interact more.

Thanks Hoon. I do agree that hair can be creative, and I never really thought about the creativity of how the hair can be until you suggested it. The mood around the girl will be very 'saddened and calm.' If I add some interest to her hair, I think it will make it more 'fun and energetic', and grab the viewers attention more. There will be other characters in the painting and it's going to be very busy - I hope. There is going to be an army charging after the couple. I want to keep it simple because if I do add life to the hair it would add another element to an already chaotic scene. This will make it more difficult for the viewer to understand if I have to many eye catchers in the scene.

I will try to use your suggestion in my next rendering. I will like to try it.

. . . Just caught your reply fensterer. I hoped this will also answer your suggestion.

fensterer
04-20-2005, 06:53 PM
Hey man! Thanks for the info about a signature. I tried it but it's not working quite right. I'll try again. :shrug: Master Servant

snowkiwi
04-20-2005, 06:58 PM
Hey fensterer, no problem. I'm looking at your code right now and trying to find what's wrong.

snowkiwi
04-20-2005, 07:07 PM
You got it working! :thumbsup:

fensterer
04-20-2005, 07:11 PM
Cool! Thanks bud! I appreciate the help!:applause:

snowkiwi
04-20-2005, 07:12 PM
Anytime. :)

snowkiwi
04-20-2005, 11:10 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1114038641_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1114038641_large.jpg)

Little touches here and there. Made the scene a little darker. Refigured Lead (pronounced led, the male figure), but I want to make him more cut in muscle. Can now hintly see the eyes of the army now. I'm still trying to figure out how I am going to accomplish it with as little space as I have. I'll try to work it out. I'm going to work on the godly figure in the sky now. The army is not scheduled to be worked on until the last 2 weeks.
But really, this update is really to change the preview picture on the 2D entry list screen. I'm trying to get more hits so I can interact with the public more. I think this preview shot will look a little better.
Again the colors may be brighter on your screen than my Macintosh's.

dloots
04-22-2005, 09:14 AM
Very stylised, Very cool keep up the good work

snowkiwi
04-22-2005, 04:54 PM
Thanks dloots. :)

Neozoom
04-23-2005, 04:48 PM
Nice man ! A little too smooth skinned to my taste but nice!

the lights are good !

snowkiwi
04-23-2005, 04:54 PM
Thanks Neozoom. :)

CoreyArtE
04-23-2005, 04:58 PM
Wow, you can color very good, I love the color scheme, especialy the rich tones in the skin...I see a few anotomy problems but other than that this is looking pretty good man !

snowkiwi
04-23-2005, 05:03 PM
Cool, I would love to here your anatomical insights. The only one I can see is it's like her left breast isn't even there. Other than that I would like to hear what you think CoryArtE.

maxim capra
04-24-2005, 05:48 PM
hey snowkiwi - thanks for stepping by at my thread. regarding your question, no i didn't use anything 3d generated for my picture, but i did use a lot of books and other references to find the right colors for the mountains. i will post some details next time...

some thoughts from me on your image:
- you've already mentioned, the left breast is not there... and the other one is HUGE :)
- the neck of the man looks too long
- i don't like the sharp crease between mouth and nose (don't know the english word) it makes her look like a puppet
- do more with her hair, it looks to straight... some frizz and some hair in front of her face and neck should make her more believable standing in the wind
- don't like the proportions of him (shoulder, waist, hip) - i think the should shouldn't be so broad and the hip is a little bit too slim....

i hope this helps a little bit :)

overall it's a really nice image and i really like the shading of the skin.

seeya

snowkiwi
04-24-2005, 06:21 PM
Wow, that's some awesome painting work.
a) Hehehe yeah it is huge.
b He does have a long neck. I've notice on some bodybuilders who have developed their traps (trapezius) to a well-formed degree, they look very long. So his neck is reality based.
c) I'll look into that. I really was not to pleased about the mouth area also.
d) You're the third one that has mentioned something about the hair. I'm more inclined to fix it now. Yes frizz sounds like an excellent suggestion.
e) My taste in man proportions are very different than most. He has really huge builds in some areas, but he is also very slim and cut. I do like his proportions.

Awesome comments Maxim Capra. I do appreciate them. Thanks very much.

snowkiwi
04-24-2005, 09:22 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1114377726_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1114377726_large.jpg)

Oh I forgot the people that are looking at the work on my thread is seeing how Lead looked before. I did not mention in my previous remark how I got all the proportions on the guy balanced, but how when I just sketched in the rim highlight on him how it again made him look unbalanced - his neck longer, his head bigger. So that is what you see in the previous painting. Here he is with more balance again. The back muscles are formed, and I am now working on the arm muscles.

Magnemar
04-25-2005, 08:08 AM
Interesting forms - I like the abstraction - Good to see an image where 'ultra-realism' isn't the ultimate goal.

Thx for your comments on mine - I'll check out your website stuff later on today...

snowkiwi
04-25-2005, 06:00 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1114452028_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1114452028_large.jpg)

The woman's aesthetics are off and I am still working on her. I also still need to put in her emotion and fix her arm. I got the guy proportions fixed and amazed of how ugly they were at the start - now that I can compare them. Both of them need to be to be synced to each other in color and proportions. Colors are more pleasing to me and more lively and spirited in the environment. The army still is not put in but will at a later time.
This will be my last update for awhile.
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Hey thanks for stopping Magnemar I really don't get that many visitors.

Sorry to say Magnemar but ultra realism is my goal. Its just I can't do it . . yet. I still consider myself a beginning painter and so hopefully will match my inner ideas with much more fluid painterly clarity in the future.

"I'll check out your website stuff later on today..." I would be honored.

fensterer
04-26-2005, 07:45 PM
I appreciate the comment, thanks. I see yours is coming along nicely. :)

snowkiwi
04-26-2005, 07:47 PM
Thanks Fen. :)

snowkiwi
04-28-2005, 07:30 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1114673428_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1114673428_large.jpg)

Finishing off Godly figure. Started working up the environment. I still have to retouch up the two figures. The army is still not put in but see traces of them.

snowkiwi
04-28-2005, 07:32 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1114673527_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1114673527_large.jpg)

Finishing off Godly figure. Started working up the environment. I still have to retouch up the two figures. The army is still not put in but see traces of them.

xric7
04-30-2005, 02:05 PM
this's amazing!!!:bounce: :bounce:
i realy love the lighting like this.
good luck to u.

snowkiwi
04-30-2005, 04:41 PM
Thanks xric7!

AlyFell
05-03-2005, 01:07 AM
Looking good dude! Thanks for stopping by my thread... I think someone has already said this, but watch the lass's chest. Her anatomy is working well, particularly the tummy, but the visible breast is *cough* rather large! Heh! :) Cool rim-lighting, and it works very well in the hair!

snowkiwi
05-03-2005, 06:51 PM
Thanks Poshspice. I will look into your suggestions.

Zephyri
05-04-2005, 04:54 PM
Hi snowkiwi, nice thread you have here! I really like your composition, the triangular lines in the piece really focus your attention on what's important in the image. I like the fluffy blossom on the tree too, that help break up what would have been a very harsh line coming from the light of the godly being. I think your woman is coming on nicely, she looks very balanced, and the fuzzy hairs you've added really help the backlighting. Not so sure about the guy though. his upper half looks great, but he looks very unbalanced once you get to the waist. If you draw a straight line down from where the centre of his head is, you'll see most of his body is on the left of the line, which tends to suggest he's leaning forward, or falling over. Perhaps if you muscled up the legs a bit? Bring out the form of the quads some more, perhaps hint at his other leg standing forward to balnce him?

Other than that though, I think it's great, really nice lighting, and wonderful work on the perspective of the god like figure at the top, I'm muchly envious! Keep up the good work!

snowkiwi
05-04-2005, 05:11 PM
Thank you Zepyhri. That is the most helpful, observant, and honest critique I've gotten yet. He is leaning, but halfway through reading your comment I was thinking to build up the leg muscle or suggest the other leg supporting him. Reading all of your comment, those are exactly what you said to do. I'm glad you brought that to my attention. I really do appreciate your observation.

Arc80
05-05-2005, 12:30 AM
Thanks for dropping by dude. I really appreciate it.
You got a nice piece going on here. It feels very surrealistic, which i'm a big fan of. The skin tones are a little soft though. maybe a tad bit texture would help. Reminds me of Adam and Eve somehow. Keep it up dude.

cheers

snowkiwi
05-06-2005, 12:56 AM
Thanks Arc80. Adam and Eve - he he he. I never thought about that. Wow it does look like Adam and Eve.

Regarding the skin this is what I am going for:
http://www.ethereality.info/ethereality_website/photography/1DMKII_portfolio/elena/elena4/elena4-06.htm

This is Elena, Rob Chang's wife. Her skin is just so magnificent, very smooth, and healthy looking. Even I am blown away by how soft it looks. This is what I am going for. For anyone else who may have the same comment please check the link above.

snowkiwi
05-08-2005, 07:55 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1115538928_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1115538928_large.jpg)
(Magazine clipping study)
I finally got the girl to look pretty good and more realistic. It was an almost impossible task. I got lucky.
First I did this painting practice because my skin was just awful. I was at a dead-end with the skin and also not pleased with the results at this end. Here is the practice to show the steps I took to get the last painting image.

snowkiwi
05-08-2005, 07:59 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1115539180_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1115539180_large.jpg)

I went back to the Master-Servent Photoshop file and started again. After I got fed up with Photoshop I switched to Painter. (I'm really not acquainted with Painter so I hardly ever use it. After hitting a dead-end with Photoshop I thought I might give it a try.) Because Painter was loose, I tried, and I finally got the forms-in-lighting corrected. That was not the end. The Painter file was messy after I completed it loosely, so I switched back to Photoshop. I overlaid it over a previous photoshop file. It was a Painter file that was a very loose painting overlaid on the Photoshop painting that was a concise and concrete version. The old Photoshop file was very dark also, and the new Painter painting was very white. So it became very good in clarity and lighting after turning up the transparency to about 50% - the result of combining the two pieces, and getting the in-between version. So it was luck. I worked on it from there because I saw I had something better. This is the result.
I'm way behind on my schedule, so excuse my tardiness of replying back if you do write. I should've been working on the army by now.
I still have to work on her hands and touch-up her clothing. But I'm pretty satisfied now.
I'm going to give Lead (Led) another finishing pass like I did to Synoui.
For anyone who's wondering, this is one of the scenes of the CG movie that I hope to release in the far future. This is the second or third movie I will be working on through my lifetime. The first one is Awakening Sun - main character also Lead. Here is a link to the 3D model of one of the lead characters of A.S. - for anyone who interested:

http://www.donnysnow.com/Isabella_Sheet.html
(nudity)

Djampa
05-08-2005, 08:03 AM
Great! :scream:
Getting pretty much realistic really! :thumbsup:

Can't wait to see more.

Try to soften the back light around the characters too, it is getting to 'hard' light around flattening them.

It is coming out great, your technique is improving during the challenge we can see.
That's rewarding isn't it?

Best wishes and good luck!

snowkiwi
05-08-2005, 08:07 AM
Thanks for your comments Djampa. I was planning on softening the backligth as you said.
Yes it is good to see my improvement. :)

dinodog-jr
05-08-2005, 09:03 AM
Bout the hardware problem..Me too switch from painter to photoshop..haha.. I still prefer doin compositing in photoshop...

This is a different type of coloring i can usually see in the gallery book!!

in fact, u got a potential in coloring than me...Just refer to some anatomy book.then u can know how to draw accurate to the man(Problem:the ear & waist).

Now, the gal.. I got nothing to complaint wif her sweet face & infants....bbb.....r.....e.......aaaa........ sssssss...........t....

GOd please sent me someone like her~!

Good to see you join the contest! Take good care of urself & this beautiful lady.

snowkiwi
05-09-2005, 06:39 AM
I think a lot of artists are using both now. I agree that compositing is the better in Photoshop.

"This is a different type of coloring i can usually see in the gallery book!!"

Cool!

Yes I agree now about the waist. The ear was just sketched in, but I am working on it now. A lot of people also mentioned the shoulders were to wide. Thanks guys you were right. And Hoon was right from the beginning about the girl's hair. It's funny how I can't see something wrong until I do it better, and then look back.

"Now, the gal.. I got nothing to complaint wif her sweet face & infants....bbb.....r.....e.......aaaa........ sssssss...........t....

GOd please sent me someone like her~!

Good to see you join the contest! Take good care of urself & this beautiful lady."

Thank you very much. That is the best compliment I ever got. Good luck to you too dinodog_Jr.

snowkiwi
05-09-2005, 06:46 AM
"Best wishes and good luck!" - Djampa

Oops. I did not see that before Djampa.

Good luck Djampa.

xric7
05-10-2005, 11:52 PM
very beautiful image. :thumbsup: love your lighting much.
hope u finish in time.
thank for your message.take care.:)

Arc80
05-11-2005, 03:20 AM
Hurry, hurry. Seven days left. Just one critzs, you might want to define their forms a little bit more especially on the arms. They are a little too stiff and straight. will be waiting for the final piece dude.

cheers

snowkiwi
05-11-2005, 05:13 PM
xric7 - Thanks xric7. I will touch up the lighting to make it look a little better, so I hope it looks better to you. I hope I finish in time too.

Arc80 - About the arms I'll look into it. It's very hard for me to see any flaws until I correct them and look back, so I will try to see what you mean.

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What's worse about the time I have left is that I am adding new elements. I think I finally got the guy proportions corrected. The figures in the front ground are the most important to the piece so takes a long time for me to correct the important anatomy of the figures. The background elements I hope to be more loose and faster. So I will start on other pieces of my painting now. I hope I schedule my time wisely and keep trying to finish.

Thanks guys.

snowkiwi
05-15-2005, 05:55 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1116179720_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1116179720_large.jpg)

I got to a point where I was really bored with my piece, so i wanted to have some fun. I just watched Ah! My Goddess the movie. Something I picked up because of the cover art. The ending was really inspiring and it made me want to enhance Synoui's spirit somehow. I messily sketched in her spirit with purple and did my hair stroke technique. It came out alright.
I've wanted to try impressionism for a long time so I thought I might try it on the background. I did it for awhile and kept going. What's funny is that a little afterwards I saw an impressionistic self portrait of Vincent Van Gogh around me. I picked it up with what I think is called the subconscious mind - unknowingly in peripheral view's sight. It wasn't in my conscious sight but was in sight nonetheless.
It was a risky choice. I was already way behind schedule, yet something inside of me just wanted to do it. I usually trust this sense, and I usually don't like to play it safe so I went with it. I ended finishing faster and now have satisfactory time left to complete what I want to do.
The army was sketch in yesterday. It's on another Photoshop layer that is hidden, so you do not see them now.
I fixed the arm proportions of Synoui, and of course you see Lead has been redone.
The scene is a bit cluttered but I hope to fix that soon with more focus of light.

snowkiwi
05-18-2005, 05:39 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1116394766_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1116394766_large.jpg)

This is a quick sketch of one soldier of the army. Since their going to be really small didn't think I needed more detail than this. The colors I was going to decide after I put them in, so I can harmonized them with the colors of the surrounding area.

snowkiwi
05-18-2005, 05:41 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1116394879_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1116394879_large.jpg)

This is about 91% complete. I still have a day left so I am going to use tonight and tomorrow to put the finishing touches on it.

xric7
05-18-2005, 06:10 AM
realy nice update.
great comp and color.:thumbsup:
very impressive work.
keep going and good luck.:)

snowkiwi
05-19-2005, 09:19 AM
Donnie Shellman has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=6255)

Latest Update: Final Image: Elephant Spirits
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1116494378_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6255/6255_1116494378_large.jpg)

Armed with just wooden sticks Lead (Led) and Synoui (Sin-noo-yee) two masters of their bodies, are able to avoid or deflect any attack pushed at them - Masters of Unfighting. They will not harm anyone. They are like the wind that brushes the oppositions face, and glides right past them as they move forward to save the elephant.

In this scene, the elephant being beaten is the sacred white elephant that has been a symbol of peace throughout Noui's neighboring kingdom. For these wicked men to destroy their symbol of peace symbolizes wickedness is conquering all peace in their land.

Synoui is looking at the cut off tail of the elephant in Lead's hand appalled at the sight. She is very calm in character but she can't help but to break down into tears to see the cruelty the elephant has to endure. The tail serving also as a reminder to what must be done helps them gain the courage to face the charging army guarding the whipped elephant. Being stranded on this tropical island with no one else to help they take it upon themselves to rescue the dying sacred animal.

The elephant being beaten to lifelessness sends an aura of help to signal a higher power. The signal transcends into the higher spirit realm to call for immediate help. The godly figure who acts structures/influences events directly to lead Lead and Noui to find the tail.

The land has been stricken with a drought of metal and their byproducts. No guns can be used so the army of these islands fight with hard-plastic spiked-clubs instead.

Lead and Noui both have radiating glows that are shaped as butterflies.
The butterfly symbolizes the animal spirit of transformation and soul evolution. They must transform and evolve to have the courage against impossible odds.

* With a grand spirit, a person will face any hell to do what is right. Your spirit is the true master, your body the servant.

The Elephantea Story


Related Links:

Movie Titles (http://www.donnysnow.com/Movie_Titles_Frameset.html)
Isabella (http://www.donnysnow.com/Isabella_Sheet.html)
Poetic Sun - website (http://www.donnysnow.com)

Arc80
05-19-2005, 09:34 AM
CONGRATULATIONs on a job well done. VERy strong finish and another nice surrealistic piece here at the challenge.

Goodluck and cheers :applause: :bounce: :buttrock:

snowkiwi
05-19-2005, 09:38 AM
Arc80 or anyone. I need to know how to upload the final image as soon as possible. I didn't recieve the email to get the instructions on how to do it. Could someone quickly tell me.

Arc80
05-19-2005, 09:46 AM
The Final Image TIFF must be submitted via FTP, further details are here:
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/final_image.php

Your final image dimensions should be print resolution (as large as you can possibly render).

A guideline is 2657 pixels wide and/or 3636 high, 300 DPI (portrait), or 3636 pixels wide and/or 2657 pixels high, 300 DPI (landscape). Your image aspect ratio and layout will dictate the final resolution. These are given
as guidelines. To be safe, render images that are larger than these specified.

DO NOT upsample your images to achieve higher resolution. If you cannot reach the desired full-page resolution, just send in what you have.

here you go dude. Just follow their instruction when you go to the FTP site. It should be very clear and all the necessary password and what not is there.

snowkiwi
05-19-2005, 11:27 AM
I made the deadline for anyone who wants to know. Thanks Arc80 for your help. I want to say more but I am very tired and sleep from trying to make this deadline. It's 4:20am over here and I've been awake all that time.
Goodnight. :)

dinodog-jr
05-19-2005, 11:56 AM
Oh my Holly Buddy!!...

When did u added the Background!!?? FREAKING STUNNING.....!! HOW U PAINT THE WINGS?? By mouse..it is so nice in details~~

I can't believe u got dat background all of a sudden, Right?! Please Tell me u had take long time to plan it out....


I will be jealous IF it did splash outta ur mind when you need a background just in time..

This piece is awfully artistic...... SPLENDID!

snowkiwi
05-19-2005, 06:29 PM
Xric7 - I wanted to reply earlier but I noticed that when I reply I usually can't concentrate the best for awhile. I needed to concentrate fully because I really was a long way from finishing. Thanks for you goodwill. Sorry I skipped you, I really wanted to quickly reply.


Dinodog Jr. - I'm glad you like it. Thank you for the compliments.
The wings were painted with a fast pencil stroke technique. I've been drawing with a pencil on and off since I was 14. I've become quite handy at drawing a series of quick uniform lines which I'm sorry to say comes with much experience - maybe at least 1.5 months of practicing straight if you really try at it.
In order to understand what I mean, just take a pencil and scribble from side to side on a paper as fast as you can. My speed for making these lines can range comfortably from half that speed, to that full speed if I really wanted. And the lines are uniform and good looking.
It's so hard to do anything with a mouse. I have Wacom tablet set. And is how I draw the fast lines - Wacom pencil.
I'm sorry to disappoint you but the idea came in the moment. A lot of my really good ideas usually come in the moment and when I force myself to make a deadline. I become a risk-taker when I feel everything is on the line. I thought the idea up and gained the courage to do it in about 5 minutes, then I just started doing it. I felt very uncomfortable but I went ahead and kept going anyways. It's strange I found later their was an impressionistic portrait of Vincent Van Gogh beside me.
Be jealous. (joking)
Thank you again for your comments Dinodog Jr.

xric7
05-19-2005, 06:42 PM
haha..
Xric7 - I wanted to reply earlier but I noticed that when I reply I usually can't concentrate the best for awhile. I needed to concentrate fully because I really was a long way from finishing. Thanks for you goodwill. Sorry I skipped you, I really wanted to quickly reply.

no worry,buddy.:D
congratulation on ur finish.:applause: :thumbsup: :bounce:
excellent image u did.
best luck in contest.
cheers.:buttrock:

snowkiwi
05-19-2005, 06:46 PM
You too xric7. Cheers.

dinodog-jr
05-20-2005, 02:33 AM
Haha..u guys just keep pushing me to get a Wacom tablet... I afraid i will use it as coffee pad after a while..

This is a hardworking practise skills to draw such a StringWings! I dun think i can make it even on the rough paper... Thx for sharing ur real-experience..

Meanwhole I dun feel like talk much to u now.
I'm Jeaaaaaalousssss....
.... JEalous is all i felt against this artistic work!!

Well, dun tell me u plan the whole concept within 5mins...haha

In the way u felt uncomfortable, i *guess* u r the only person apply such coloring style!! Dat's y u r one of the UNIQUE ENTRY to me.... !!

snowkiwi
05-20-2005, 03:22 PM
"Haha..u guys just keep pushing me to get a Wacom tablet... I afraid i will use it as coffee pad after a while.."

I've done some good work with a mouse, but when I started using a tablet I got two times better. It's really how far you want to go in an amount of time. If you want to go really far in painting I think that the tablet will aid you nicely. The tablet is very intuitive and makes things much simpler. Simplicity and efficiency are two great factors for enjoyment in a field. If you want to enjoy something more then I think it needs to be simpler. The tablet makes it more simple. The mouse compared to the tablet is very slow, and not as loose or have as much freedom.
If you don't feel you will or want to go far then you don't have to buy it. The mouse will be fine. If you want to go far, and because the farther you want to go in art the more complicated things get, the simpler things should to be, I think getting a tablet is best - when you can comfortably afford it.

It's very expensive, but with good experience I think in the end it will pay for itself.


"Meanwhole I dun feel like talk much to u now.
I'm Jeaaaaaalousssss....
.... JEalous is all i felt against this artistic work!!"

He he he.
Don't be. Anything I can do, I'm sure you can do if you put your mind to it.

"Well, dun tell me u plan the whole concept within 5mins...haha

In the way u felt uncomfortable, i *guess* u r the only person apply such coloring style!! Dat's y u r one of the UNIQUE ENTRY to me.... !!"

Actually yes I did feel a little uncomfortable about the colors. Though I liked it and it was fun, I wasn't really sure if other people would see it as very childish. Thanks for your compliment about my unique colors. Take care. :)

dloots
05-23-2005, 07:20 AM
Hi Its come out very cool. I like the whole atmosphere of the image.

Good luck

jugeras
05-23-2005, 02:04 PM
congrats on your piece n gud luck :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

snowkiwi
05-24-2005, 01:10 AM
You too guys. (dloots, jugeras) Goodluck. :)

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