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kornel
03-23-2005, 01:44 PM
Kornél Ravadits has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=6223)

Latest Update: Final Image: on the road of pain
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1115924055_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1115924055_large.jpg)

This is the final image, thanks for all for the supports and best wishes for the challenge!

Kornél

I was wery glad to take part in a contest.

AirbORn
03-23-2005, 01:45 PM
Welcome! GOod luck in the challenge and hope to see some concepts soon :)

Adamos
03-23-2005, 02:01 PM
juhuu!
jó látni Téged!

good luck!

kornel
03-28-2005, 07:30 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1111998642_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1111998642_large.jpg)

The very first sketch of my idea...

I work on colors, light and composition...

(sorry for my bad english!)

BlackDidThis
03-28-2005, 08:31 AM
Thats a very strong composition...

I would really like to see where it gets to. Tagging along to follow up.



Good Luck!

Black

kornel
03-28-2005, 10:03 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1112007830_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1112007830_large.jpg)

Line art version of the lazy Big Fat guy

Groady
03-28-2005, 10:25 AM
Ha! Cool concept. Are the guys at the bottom walking on fire? Keep it up.

kornel
03-28-2005, 06:30 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1112038225_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1112038225_large.jpg)

I try to make a stange and unkind scene in one diferent world -color sketch-

Adamos
03-28-2005, 09:47 PM
Nice mood on the fat lady! And I truly love the red elements on the bottom area of the image. Probably the slaves?!

Szia Kornél!
Örülök, hogy nyomod! Próbálj meg beírogatni más topikokba, (elég annyi, hogy "hej de frankó" vagy "hmm itt ezen, meg azon javíthatnál" mert a végső elbírálásnál ezt is nézik (közösségi pontok) (nálad ez nem lesz mindegy, mert esélyes vagy!)
Na szevasz, további jó munkát!
a többit írom privátban...

Keep posting!
Cheers

Adam

kornel
03-29-2005, 07:27 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1112128056_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1112128056_large.jpg)

second level - the helldogs

kornel
03-30-2005, 08:13 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1112217220_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1112217220_large.jpg)

I changed a few things in the picture for the better feeling, but i have not enough time for drawing..!

PeterPuppet
03-30-2005, 08:22 PM
Hajrá öregem! Láttam a baronjaidat ugyhogy részemröl nagy az elvárás. Ha "motivációs seggberugásra" van szükséged, fordulj hozzám:twisted: . Abban jó vagyok, hamár a kezem szart se ér wacom nélkül hehe... Na akkor szevasz és drukkolok. Szép lessz! A cselédet még nemigen látom, de ez biztos rajtam múlik.

Dude, You make me proud being hungarian! Waiting for updates!


peace, pete

BlackDidThis
03-31-2005, 12:58 AM
Hey how come I didn't get a notification on the updates on this one?!!! :eek:

Well good thing I was wondering around! I guess I just deleted it by accident.




Your work is REALLY pulling itself together. Inspite the details you are now adding in, you have not lost anything yet from the fantastic colour plan you had started out with.

It's going fantastic


Black

Adamos
03-31-2005, 07:05 AM
Great Evolution of the concept!

Nagyon tetszik, jó, hogy egyből le tudtad tenni a koncepciódat, ami ráadásul eredeti is! Hajrá!

I Love how the fat lady is feeding the monsters...great mood and style. I'm looking forward to your final image!

Béke.

Arc80
03-31-2005, 07:27 AM
Fun concept dude. I like that little touch of humor. The clouds are looking nice so far.
Keep it up.

GoodLuck,
Archie

ogar555
03-31-2005, 09:06 AM
This is gonna be so cool when it's finished! Keep it up! (btw, the fatty looks good! not good-looking but done well) :P

Rudeone
03-31-2005, 09:28 AM
Ah wow, this one is great! cool concept and it's comming together really well:thumbsup:

I was wondering if there's gonna be a row of slaves in the back carrying the fat guy because it would be impossible for those 3 slaves in the front to keep it in the air like this. Right now the backside would touch the ground.

Anyways, great job, I'll keep checking

BrutalMonk
03-31-2005, 09:33 AM
Nice to see some hungarians here
(Hellóóó :))
Nice idea and cool colors!
Keep doin'

Good luck
David

kornel
04-01-2005, 12:38 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1112362726_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1112362726_large.jpg)

I worked with the slaves and a little servant - and a bit on a composition...

(sorry for my terrible english)

Adamos
04-01-2005, 12:50 PM
Eszméletlen vagy! Nem is vettem észre a cipelők hadát eddig! Ja és bocs, hogy le "kövér hölgy"-eztem a fő karakteredet, mert eleinte azt hittem, hogy nő. :)

Great progress! No crits!

element5
04-01-2005, 01:21 PM
Great idea, like it very much :)

Imriela
04-01-2005, 04:05 PM
The subjugation in this is really apparent, and the perspective from below--the slave's position--is very appropriate.

*giggles madly* Sorry, but I just glanced back at the piece, saw the positioning of the torch, and got a horrible mental image of the back of the fan-bearer's loincloth going up in flames!

PeterPuppet
04-01-2005, 04:17 PM
Fény derült a cselédekre:) . Remélem portrait-formátumú lesz. Nagyon szép a háttered!

You know what I think:thumbsup:



peace, pete

walrus
04-01-2005, 04:35 PM
Nice work so far! I liked it before, but I like it even more with the figures supporting the platform and the additional servant with the fan. The sky is really starting to come together, too. Good luck with it!

-mike

kornel
04-02-2005, 03:37 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1112459847_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1112459847_large.jpg)

I have made some detailing on the worm and windy desert...

kornel
04-03-2005, 09:01 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1112562060_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1112562060_large.jpg)

I just redraw the servant and warming up the colorit of a picture. It need much more cleanup and 2 or 3 slaves more to the back.

C and c are most welcome!

(sorry for my english...)

NOOB!
04-03-2005, 09:02 PM
WHOOOOOOOOOAA!!

lookin excellent!!

Adamos
04-03-2005, 09:27 PM
Annyira durván kezeled a fényeket/színeket, hogy....remélem így, hogy nézegetem/elemezgetem a képeidet sikerül tanulni belőlük.

Azért jócskán fordítottál időt a háttérre és meg is lett az eredménye: gyönyörű tájkép! Önmagában is szinte megállja a helyét! További jó alkotást!

Mester!

:)


Nice progress! Nothing to crit.

Arc80
04-04-2005, 03:12 AM
very nice update. Those skeleton creatures are working well with the environment.
The only thing i'm not to sure of is the angel. your old composition was working well.
Right now, the angel is kind of competiting with your main character (the master). I don't think you need it. Your piece is stronger without it, because your focal point is right smack in the middle or where the master is which is the brightest area in your piece. Keep it up.

Cheers,
Archie
My master & servant entry (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=224331)

JakubFromOz
04-04-2005, 03:33 AM
your work is very interesting looks surrealistic, looks like alot of thought went into it i like the fact theres a lil cherub being a servant in such a demonic and evil place :D

BlackDidThis
04-04-2005, 05:40 AM
Like Arc80, I am not too sure about the cupid there.

You have managed to blend him in some what with the enforced participation (rope tied)... So it is your call. But shall you decide to keep him. The position and motion it has seems very wrong. Instead of him flying in the air and in the meanwhile fanning the 'master'... it seems as if the fan is a stick in the air, and the cherub just hanging onto it.

It needs some amount of motion counter motion there in order to be convincingly waving that fan. Unless ofcourse he is not actually suppose to be fanning.

The background is breath taking. It sort of breaks from the foreground characters at this stage (Especially the fat man) since they seem more liked inked characters yet. But it's easy to see that you are slowly blending it all in. So nothing to say there.

In overall the image is growing to be very powerful

Black

kornel
04-04-2005, 07:21 AM
Thanks for everyone! I will work with a servant - yes, it is breaks the original composition...
I try to draw it again in other pose and place...

cheers: Kornél

(sorry for my english)

eclipson
04-04-2005, 07:51 AM
nice sky, overall is pretty,...goodlux dude :thumbsup:

lamarvisions
04-04-2005, 08:41 AM
Just cool.What ore,it just has a great look and feel.The idea too is just the ticket.:buttrock:

duddlebug
04-04-2005, 08:44 AM
Hahahaha... this is hilarious.

I had a dream bit like this last night. But i think my bum looked bigger...? And i was being carried by Thai dancing girls.

it looks really promising and i really like the lighting and the detail... by slaves, do you mean more cherub types..? I think figures to the back (particularly fluttering cherubs) would help with the perspective and the depth.

Good luck!

Tremoside
04-04-2005, 09:33 AM
Always good to see fine artwork from fellow countymen. Excellent skills you have! Tetszett a Munchausen-es munkad is! Kitartas!

ElFuego
04-04-2005, 03:19 PM
nice to see another angel in chains concept here :) And yours look really good and innovative ...now I don't even have a change :(

But best of luck to you and keep those cool pics coming :)

- Arto

BaronImpossible
04-04-2005, 03:23 PM
Looking good. I like the colours, reminiscent of an old oil painting.

Adamos
04-05-2005, 11:05 AM
Szia Kornél!

Példaértékű a pályamunkád! Hangulat, humor és kompozíció szempontjából is! A háttered még egyelőre más festményszerű hangulatot áraszt, mint a karaktereid, mégis egységesnek tűnik, még így a munka kellős közepén is! Nagyon jó látni a fázisokat.

Egy kérdés: a fényeket már az elején definiálod, hogy merről jöjjenek, miként verődjenek vissza, stb. vagy útközben? Illetve a legelső ötleteléseid színekkel történnek, vagy formákkal, kontúrokkal, kompozícióval, s csak utána dobod rá a színeket? Ha szakmai titok akkor :p ... csak vicceltem :)

További jó munkát! (ez is groteszk a javából! :) )

I really like your panting, you've still got some contour lines left on your demon heads, but I know this is still a WIP!


always inspiring! espacially the lights and the humour you put into the image!

cheers Adam

Zephyri
04-05-2005, 12:50 PM
I really love the renaissance look this painting has, the colours in the sky I particularly like. The message is certainly clear, the guy on the platform is nicely repulsive. Only minor crit is that the fan looks like a mop. But other than that, like it very much!

kornel
04-06-2005, 09:35 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1112780150_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1112780150_large.jpg)

Next step with some detailing...

C and c are most welcome!

(sorry for my english...)

pogonip
04-06-2005, 09:46 AM
That sir is badass !! Everything about that picture is well done ...and ive not seen a picture like it so great concept !

kornel
04-07-2005, 09:48 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1112910478_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1112910478_large.jpg)

a little update with a two beasts...

c and a are most welcomed!

sidchagan
04-08-2005, 11:27 PM
Looking great, the man's expression is amazing, and I like the details (especially the brush strokes, they give the drawing a lot of character). The animals look good as well.

LadyMedusa
04-10-2005, 03:19 PM
I like youre style, mate.
Nice design on the thing the master is laying on
Good work :thumbsup:

Arc80
04-10-2005, 03:25 PM
COol. the details are coming out quite nicely and the colours i think are blending well. This might be weird, but somehow, i'm still not feeling his weight affect on those skeletons. Maybe because their gestures all look the same or some of their facial expressions are not exaggurated enough... or Maybe it's just me overthinking thinks, hehe.

cheers,
Archie

kornel
04-10-2005, 09:38 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1113169118_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1113169118_large.jpg)

work, work, and more work on it... and it need more thing to do on details!

c and c are most welcome!
thanks: Kornél

(sorry for my bad english)

sgw
04-10-2005, 10:00 PM
This is looking really good. Keep it up!

blakbird
04-10-2005, 10:06 PM
I think it is going to be a masterpiece

artjunkie
04-10-2005, 10:20 PM
I think this is a great piece of art... sorry I haven't posted here yet, but I have been watching (all sneaky and stuff).

Your attention to detail is EXCELLENT! I am amazed... nice colours too! The strong orange streaks in the sky above the fat guy may need to be blended in a little more? I like the colour, it just seems to be a bit too strong... *shrugs* just a suggestion.

Your designs for all the characters and creatures is brilliant! And I especially love the white skeleton laying on the ground in the bg, LOL. Nice touch.

SEL
04-10-2005, 11:54 PM
Great work! It really is a very interesting and beautifully done pieace. So far one of my favorites! Great job!

SEL

Virtuoso
04-11-2005, 12:02 AM
Really wonderful piece you have here.....The baron would be proud....;)

The character and his "pets"......the servants are all very well depicted.......Nice master pose too,so spoiled is'nt he?;)

Very nice in all aspects,the sky too is very much alive,very nice color pallette.....:arteest:

OrO
04-11-2005, 07:55 AM
this is to coolll!:thumbsup:

Adamos
04-11-2005, 09:31 AM
Hi Kornél!

One of the best color schemes in this contest!

work...:)

kornel
04-11-2005, 03:11 PM
thanks guys...!

On a next step i try to make more confusion of the colors and the figures... and add more atmospheric effects.

best regards: Kornél

(sorry for ny english)

misiek1125
04-11-2005, 11:09 PM
Hi, Fantastic style, I love atmosphere in your work, and humor, great piece of art.
Good luck!

kornel
04-12-2005, 09:50 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1113342610_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1113342610_large.jpg)

I just add more details to the sky...
c and c are most welcome!

kpbelsha
04-12-2005, 09:54 PM
thats an amazing moody sky!

walrus
04-12-2005, 10:03 PM
I just add more details to the sky...
c and c are most welcome! The only 'c' I have are compliments. That is one beautiful sky.
Amazing work!

-mike

arkinet
04-12-2005, 10:49 PM
its cool dude, I like your clouds.

Adamos
04-12-2005, 11:52 PM
This is...
well everyone's said it before me!
The best digital sky I've ever seen?!

nothing to crit

üdv: Ádám

wonlife
04-13-2005, 09:26 AM
It's awesome ! I love the sky and the cloud. They' re really amazing :eek: Good luck man !!

MDN67
04-13-2005, 10:09 AM
your sky is a great piece of art, excellent work:thumbsup:

BlackDidThis
04-14-2005, 10:52 AM
That is a TOO beautiful sky!

It's simply AMAZING!



Black

kornel
04-15-2005, 10:12 AM
Thanks guys! I need many more changes on it...

I'll be back soon: Kornél

Tranchefeux
04-15-2005, 11:38 AM
Hello, returned your clouds is imposing, but or you will put the human characters, good luck for the continuation.
:thumbsup:

calisto-lynn
04-15-2005, 11:42 AM
nice background.. i like the clouds, and lava, and everything.. its great!:)

Arc80
04-15-2005, 04:31 PM
Wow, that sky is looking nice. I love the colour pallete that you used on it. it reminds me on an old master painting.

cheers :thumbsup:

fooxoo
04-15-2005, 04:37 PM
The sky rocks! Strong colours - :thumbsup:

Vahn
04-15-2005, 10:34 PM
<---- and another hungarian ... ill write in english tough as my written hungarian might be mistaken for something completely else :D

and now for the critique:


....

ermmm....u should.....i mean what really is......ermmmm.....u might ...... arghhh ....

lol nothing to crit m8 ....its very good ( and i mean VERY ) .... amazing painting skills u got there. I imagine the fat little emperors boy crarried around and fed bye all those minions while his father is turning the rest of the world into hell....cool concept :thumbsup:

wait a minute.....his father must be huge..... well ermm

hehe im looking forward to your next crazy detail update ....as if there wasnt alrdy ....just amazing kornel...


sok sikert?

cheers
vahn

kornel
04-17-2005, 05:05 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1113757520_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1113757520_large.jpg)

I have already made some little modification on the pic... Little blind servant added, and some atmospheric effect and wultures to the high, and the near rock to the right.

Here is the little parts.

c and c are most welcommed...

NOOB!
04-17-2005, 05:07 PM
damn impressive!

PeterPuppet
04-17-2005, 05:11 PM
The pure Painter-power!:thumbsup:


Csodálkoztam, mit csinálsz ilyen sokáig, de most már nem csodálkozok... most már csodálok... szépet:applause: ;)



peace, pete

marcheen
04-17-2005, 05:35 PM
nice style, Kornel. i really enjoy your images.

judykero
04-17-2005, 09:18 PM
Lenyűgöz ahogyan bánsz a színekkel! Nagyon szép!

The colors are magical!

Hajrá

artjunkie
04-17-2005, 09:39 PM
What a wonderfully RICH piece of art. Great combination of colours, lovely textures and details too. This is the kind of piece where I enjoy just letting my eye roam around the painting discovering little rich details you've so masterfully rendered. Excellent stuff! :bounce:

You GOT to close to finishing, yes?

korayarts
04-17-2005, 09:51 PM
ı like consept ..espically your sky coloring is so good...good luck...

profg
04-18-2005, 04:21 PM
Wow, nagyon kitalált kép, hangulatos. Lehet tanulni belőle. :) Sok sikert a versenyhez, ezzel a képpel esélyes vagy (a szememben biztosan!).

Nice image. Keep up the good work.

arkinet
04-18-2005, 04:29 PM
love the red, hellish color, & the sky...phew!!! really great... wanna see the big pix....:scream:

kornel
04-19-2005, 08:08 AM
Thanks girls and guys!

I'll try to be better than now...

I'll be back soon (work, work, work): Kornél

kornel
04-19-2005, 10:03 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1113948184_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1113948184_large.jpg)

This is the darkest part of the image...

arkinet
04-19-2005, 10:05 PM
thats one mean pat fig, ehe, fat pig.... looks great kornel... cant wait to see, the finish product... looks like your done, arent you?

kornel
04-20-2005, 10:04 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1114034696_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1114034696_large.jpg)

Posing after a long and hot day in the desert...

(i'm to tired for a work...)

Adamos
04-20-2005, 10:16 PM
Hehe! :applause: I love Jokes! Yes sir! You have to take a break once in a while!

Na, jó látni, hogy Te is lazítasz! Lazíts is! Jól áll!

Minden jót!

eRDe
04-20-2005, 10:38 PM
extra SUPEROS!!! :)

arkinet
04-20-2005, 11:45 PM
thats a good one *lol*:scream:

spacesnail
04-21-2005, 12:39 PM
Always a pleasure to see some joke :thumbsup:
About the "real" picture: just one word BRILLIANT painting (err that's two words, sorry) :bounce:

MIngMIng
04-21-2005, 01:04 PM
:eek: so cool i like this style!!

Arc80
04-21-2005, 04:37 PM
HAHAHA, that's really funny. Nice joke dude.

Anyway, just wanted to say the details looks awesome especially with the skeletons. Keep it up. :thumbsup: for me bro.

cheers

kornel
04-26-2005, 09:09 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1114549779_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1114549779_large.jpg)

what do you think?

c and c are mostly welcomed!

best: Kornél

arkinet
04-26-2005, 09:24 PM
totally wicked!!:bounce: cant say anything right, stl trying to digest the image... great work!!

Speaky
04-26-2005, 09:54 PM
Hey Kornel, that's so unique! Very good idea, and bold execution, though watch for that stony column on the right, I think it's distracting from the focus of the pic without adding much to it. Is it close or far away?

Beautiful sky by the way! :thumbsup:

overcontrast
04-26-2005, 10:20 PM
ur not far not far at all.... man i love the worm color... very nice concept and visualisation.... and just for a creazy idea... what do u think of giving that big guy holding a cell phone...(i donno whare that came from, but it sure gives a funny kick, u can just do that for fun[bt dont keep it in the final scene]) :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

Adamos
04-26-2005, 10:46 PM
Hi Kornel! You're almost finished!

Szia, tisztelettel én is megkérdőjelezem a jobboldali sziklát, mert tényleg elvonja a figyelmet egy kicsit az előtértől, meg azt a csodálatos egedet takarja (elég részletgazdag lett és az ember rögtön keresi, hogy nem rejtettél-e el ott valamit, stb.)...csak egy gondolat!

Congratulations on one of the best entries!

Adam

andreasrocha
04-26-2005, 11:23 PM
Great work Kornél. The only thing that bothers me a bit is that shape to the right. I think it calls too much attention, and I don't think it adds much. The dark sky is wonderful!
Also, I think you could aim for a different format. Square formats are a bit static in my opinion. But, perhaps it's getting too close to the end to be changing formats, so don't worry...it's looking really good as it is.

Congratulations.

Nehym
04-26-2005, 11:36 PM
You've got such a style. I love the way you designed the characters and what they are walking on... And those menacing clouds gives a great mood and adds to the atmosphere of the piece.

I'll definatly have to go check out your challenge page to have a little more information on your concept. :)

kornel
04-27-2005, 10:57 AM
Thanks girls and guys!

...I will delete the rock and try to find another way to make a perfect depth... :)

best regards: Kornél

Tranchefeux
04-27-2005, 11:44 AM
Hi, your work is more powerful, you with you living a few times on my
planet, go, go for the continuation. :thumbsup:

Adamos
04-27-2005, 05:11 PM
Hi Kornel!

Thank you so much for your support!

You're helping me a lot!

(mégegyszer köszi a sok segítséget, tényleg sokat segítesz!)

hála!

Adam

fensterer
04-27-2005, 06:27 PM
Absoulutely outsanding piece. The colors are fantastic and you displayed the weight on the servants very well!:buttrock:

jugeras
04-28-2005, 03:23 AM
:applause: :applause: :applause:

BlackDidThis
04-28-2005, 03:55 AM
Hey.. this isn't Master and Servant any more.... it is literally Master and SLAVE(s) :)

Gosh... merci man!
Your foreground is turning out very good.. and very impressive to many standards.. but unfortunately at this state, your background looks so much better.

Would it be too bad an idea to sort of shrink the foreground characters such as to have the background tower more? Not just because of the cool looking background.. but also because it has a great variaty of colours at the level the master is raised up to.
And with how the image is now: It is getting a bit confusing.
I love the contrast of the dark monsters profile, to the high lit sky and the masters fat tan arse to the dark clouds.. It is just that as I look at the background you posted without the figures; it seems as if the figures would fit in so much better smalller.more to the horizons hight.

Just a thought..


Black

Muttonhead
04-28-2005, 05:27 AM
Whoa! Killer piece! Love the detail. I would pop in a few specular highlights on his bum and call it finished!

ms@zx
04-28-2005, 06:22 AM
thats some serious torturing man~great mood and lovely details.i think u are almost there~best of luck:)

kornel
04-28-2005, 07:24 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1114673059_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1114673059_large.jpg)

Thanks for all for the suggestions! I removed the rock and try to change for a better composition... I dont know whitch is the better way - any suggestion?

thanks a lot!

(and sorry for my english)

grf
04-28-2005, 08:23 AM
This piece is very cool! I love the colors (the greens especially) you've rendered in the sky! I like the fat man being carried better than what you had before. I think compositionally, it would be better to crop closer to the main action of the piece. A strong vertical....

Something like this:
http://ryanfrederickson.com/untitled/kornel-crit-crop%20example.jpg

All of the rendering on the left is lovely (the light filtering through the clouds is really well done!) but it kind of feels empty. ...It's up to you of course....

The only other thing that is bothering me at this point (and it might just be me) is that you don't see anything in the foreground that would be very close to the viewer's eye. Because of that, right now it kind of feels to me like the viewer is distanced or detatched from the scene. In your "Baron's Fly" piece, you did it very well... The helms of the people in the crowd feel like they're only inches or feet from the viewer's eye.

Maybe (just maybe) raise a few of the pillars in the foreground up just a little bit.

Great work!! :thumbsup:

lutzw
04-28-2005, 12:23 PM
Hi Kornel! Great entry. The sky/background mood is really excellent.

Maybe, though, the very bright patch of sky to the right, especially in the larger layout, draws the focus away from the central theme. Maybe the intended focus could be strengthened if the reptile creature in the center was a bit brighter?

Regarding the overall composition, I think there’s some inbalance involved with both layouts. With the larger one, there seems to be too much free space to the left; with the other one, the patch of sky overhead with the birdlike creatures gains almost as much weight as the central theme.

Cheers,
:) <- Lutz

jeromoo
04-28-2005, 02:18 PM
What a unique vision you have, Kornel. I have some suggestion for your lighting and composition. I feel the whites in the sky are too distracting. How about having that 'white' light source directly overhead the subjects casting strong and dramatic reflections and shadows instead. It might help to highlight the master better and at the same time also serve to tell the viewer that those people under its shadow are the servants. Also, focus the composition on the figures by not showing too much of the background. Something like the second comp you did, but a bit more closer to the subjects to attract attention.

This is just my idea. Once again, great vision!

VivianeFigueira
04-28-2005, 04:01 PM
Hi,

I think your work is so beautiful....piece of work :applause:
The colors, everything......

JRBRAZ
04-28-2005, 04:33 PM
I prefer the more horizontal version. :thumbsup:

Maybe you could try a sky with the white parts just a little darker, because like this, is distracting us ... it´s calling more attention than the master ...

snowkiwi
04-28-2005, 06:36 PM
Aauuuuhhh poor guys (servants)! That's meeeeeeaaan.

Great master servant substance.

gu
04-28-2005, 06:59 PM
Hi, specially I love these dynamic clouds and the slaves tiring expression! very very well done!

Gus

demonicoz
04-28-2005, 07:20 PM
What can i say, the sky and the overall mood is simply breathtaking. It reminds me of the skies painted by the genius John Martin. It has that old classical look to it, almost biblical. Awesome mate, cant wait to see the finished piece. Good Luck.

Adamos
04-28-2005, 11:47 PM
Szia Kornél!

Végre rájöttem, hogy mindkét verzióban benne van a teljes eged, hál' Istennek nem csippentettél le belőle! A négyzetesebb képen könnyebben fürkészem a karaktereidet, mint a másikon, mert ott az ég kicsit csillapítja jelenlétüket. Ezt az eget egész nap el tudnám nézni, már azt játszom, hogy milyen alakzatokat tudok kivenni a felhőkből...:D

Minden jót és továbbra is köszönöm a segítségedet, sajnos nem tudtam megoldani az ég elidegenítését a talajtól, sőt körülbelül pont az ellenkezőjét csináltam, :blush: de még próbálkozom vele, csak most hagyom hagy ülepedjen.

Üdv: Ádám

Hi, I think the square format works better, because it's easier to focus on the characters in that version. My opinion. But my true answer is both images are looking fabulous! good luck with the decision! ;)

Adam

arLutiK
04-29-2005, 03:49 AM
Wow man great work and I have to say in all the ideas I've seen so far this one cries out Master & Servant. Really cool image, great work.

kornel
04-29-2005, 08:06 AM
Thanks for everyone! They are helps a lot for me... I'll to try to build it into image... :thumbsup:

cheers: Kornél

ThierryS
04-29-2005, 08:53 AM
Hi kornel, just discovering your art, it's very impressive. The sky is awsome and the theme is great. I also saw your Baron paintings, very nice too. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Good luck for this one.:) :)

kacorkiraly
04-29-2005, 01:51 PM
yeah thats awesome, cool,superlativ...

érdekes a játék a kép kompozíciójával.

intresting, that all kind of composition got different weight and mood. i can't choose from them.

that clouds...:buttrock:

kornel, i will keep my eyes on you :thumbsup:

endi2
04-29-2005, 04:06 PM
Really excellent picture!
I think, you no need more objects, because you will lack the "deserted" feeling. Now I see that skeleton-like guys... and I feel the pain of the big travelling on this empty land!

kornel
05-01-2005, 09:24 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1114982665_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1114982665_large.jpg)

Thierry2005, kacorkirály, Endi - thanks guys for those nice words!

(here is some updates in half resolution)

best regards: Kornél

arLutiK
05-02-2005, 04:01 AM
Kornel every time I see your close ups, my jaw falls to the ground, you do amazing work. I saw you Baron M. before and I loved it (since I'm a big fan of the Baron) but this is just stunning, the lighting, the compo, the subject everything is just amazing. So all I'll add up is a last line:

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

Tranchefeux
05-02-2005, 12:04 PM
Hi, thank you for the details for your painting which tickles my eyes. :thumbsup:

liquidwerx
05-03-2005, 06:28 AM
Great idea. Very well done.


M

kornel
05-03-2005, 09:48 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1115156923_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1115156923_large.jpg)

arlutik, Tranchefeux, Malachi Maloney - thanks guys!

-here is small piece update with final resolution

cheers: Kornél

kornel
05-04-2005, 08:50 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1115239800_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1115239800_large.jpg)

Here is the last sample before the last post...

I hope u like it.

best regards: Kornél

PeterPuppet
05-04-2005, 09:04 PM
Amen :thumbsup:

Várom a végzetet. ;) Mekkora az aktuális felbontása ennek a képnek? Úgy nézem, a hátteré nincs akkora mint az elötéré, úgyhogy akkor már azt is megkérdezem, hogy a hátteré mekkora volt, mielött felnagyítottad.



peace, pete

Mythmaker
05-04-2005, 09:33 PM
This is definitely among my favourites! It's really dramatic, and I appreciate the work you're putting into the details - keep it up! ;)

Gdinnye
05-04-2005, 09:55 PM
Szia Kornél!Ez a közeli képed kicsit az amerikai naivokra emlékeztet,és nagyon jó.
Good luck.

kornel
05-06-2005, 06:36 AM
Pete: the final image 4200x3500px, yes you are right, i was scaled the background at the first time...
I will repaint those areas before the end... (i hope)

Mythmaker: thanks a lot!

Gdinnye: köszi, szeressük mi a amcsi naivokat (is)... :thumbsup:

Adamos
05-06-2005, 07:00 AM
Hi Kornel!

You're close ups are real csemege for the eyes! :) One question do you use the "scratchboard rake" pen in painter? That's one of my favourite "brushes". Anyway. Really nice detail!

Szevasz,

Adam

LexLe
05-06-2005, 02:48 PM
Good !

Perfectly!!
Very much it is pleasant to me! :)
my M&S

NinjaA55N
05-07-2005, 08:55 PM
Great details, brush strokes, mood and everything. Lots of action going on, and all the design is fantastic! I hope to see that one in the finals as well. Really love it!

kornel
05-10-2005, 08:30 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1115757037_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1115757037_large.jpg)

and the final image is here (but the jpg compression is blurred the whole image!)

Thanks for all the helpful comments!

best for all of you: Kornél

(sorry for my english...)

fensterer
05-10-2005, 08:40 PM
Excellent job! I love the "hot coals". The detail is just incredible!:buttrock:

ogar555
05-10-2005, 08:57 PM
oooh, this has progressed a long way since last i saw it!
Hahaha, still as funny as ever... :D

Mordalles
05-10-2005, 09:32 PM
that is one insane pic. great work! excellent clouds!

choptider
05-11-2005, 12:24 AM
like i said before, lovely clouds and perspective!!
that gives a big size for your picture.

walrus
05-11-2005, 12:27 AM
Beautiful work, Kornel! It's all great, but particularly the clouds and sky and light streaming down just blows me away. Congrats for finishing!

-mike

JRBRAZ
05-11-2005, 12:28 AM
Amazing work. Final version is great!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Congratulations and Good Luck. :thumbsup:

jmBoekestein
05-11-2005, 12:30 AM
Hey, where are all your fans?:shrug:

This is a really really good piece! I was wondering and looking over it and it's fantastic.:DUhm yeah good...:Dnothing else to say, just can't believe I missed it.

Arc80
05-11-2005, 03:15 AM
LOVELY dude and the hell dog is SICK. The overall piece looks AWESOME dude. very strong finish man. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :applause:

cheers

arLutiK
05-11-2005, 06:02 AM
Kornél, this is one of the best concept I've seen but I said that before.

Your final work is amazing and the compression doesn't seem so bad, great work man. :thumbsup:

flyingP
05-11-2005, 06:13 AM
hahaha what a cool concept :D , really like the colours too :bounce:

agios
05-11-2005, 08:57 AM
great colouring adds a more dramatic mood to your piece...a lot of details too...greta job my friend ...good luck

xric7
05-11-2005, 09:07 AM
amazing!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
ur painting ia incredible!!:bowdown:
love everything in this piece.:buttrock:
good luck.

Primus
05-11-2005, 10:03 AM
Beautiful work!! I love the colors and the composition :) .

PeterPuppet
05-11-2005, 01:11 PM
Bravo:applause:

Én még lecsípnék egy kicsit a bal oldalbol, hogy tényleg a kép közepén legyenek a figurák és ne felejtsd el a "final image"-milestonet feltölteni! Nagyszerü kép :thumbsup:



peace, pete

Arctis
05-11-2005, 02:55 PM
nice and unexpected piece.
One of my fav.
Good luck.

Tranchefeux
05-11-2005, 04:31 PM
Hi kornel, your image is always distracting when I look at it, go, go
for the last. :thumbsup:

crowley
05-11-2005, 06:17 PM
Wonderful work Kornel, love it. Your sense of detail and coloring is impressive. And I really really like the lizard-like beasts surrounding the master: the one in the front is awesome. Great job! :thumbsup:

Adamos
05-11-2005, 09:12 PM
Superb Image!

My true favourite! You've been such an inspiration to all of us! Congratulations and thanks!

Le a kalappal!

Adam

kornel
05-11-2005, 09:29 PM
Thanks a lot guys! I really touched by the kind words! Thanks again.

(sorry for my english)

O.Martin
05-11-2005, 09:30 PM
Looking good. Best of luck! :thumbsup:

SpiritDreamer
05-11-2005, 10:56 PM
Hi Kornel
Made my day!
I cracked up when I came upon this one.
Funny and sad at the same time.
Really nice concept and great painting.
Take care
Glenn

Tris3d
05-12-2005, 07:35 AM
Brilliant piece! Good luck!! :)

MDN67
05-12-2005, 07:42 AM
this pic is very great the sky is absolutly fabulous, it's a hard work to paint this, very nice:thumbsup:

ThierryS
05-12-2005, 08:05 AM
Hi Kornel, very impressive painting, the choice you made to reduce the amount of sky is giving a much better balancing of the picture. Good luck to you too man and see you on the next one!:) :thumbsup:
Thanks for your support:beer: :wavey:
Thierry

Fish-KAart
05-12-2005, 05:20 PM
:thumbsup: :) Veri well!!

kornel
05-12-2005, 06:54 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1115924055_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6223/6223_1115924055_large.jpg)

This is the final image, thanks for all for the supports and best wishes for the challenge!

Kornél

I was wery glad to take part in a contest.

tuck
05-13-2005, 09:58 AM
Congrats, Korne'l !:applause:

It turned out beautifully, I love the light and the overall tone. Good luck with the judging!

Goro
05-13-2005, 10:42 AM
Congrats on the finished work! Looks awsome.
Amazing detail.

good luck!

duddlebug
05-13-2005, 04:21 PM
Congratulations Kornel!! It looks fantastic!!

The detail is incredible and the painting technique on the clouds, figures and hot coals is just splendid!! And the chubby guy is perfect!!

Good luck in the judging...

spacesnail
05-13-2005, 11:09 PM
Congrats Kornel

this is a beautiful picture

Wish you the best:thumbsup:

See you on the next contest

Manu

Miyagu
05-13-2005, 11:14 PM
wow! looking GREAT! :eek:
btw: thanks a lot for commenting on my entry! i will think about the background.. :)

i wish you the best for the contest! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: good luck!

xric7
05-15-2005, 05:45 AM
wonderful painting!!!
congrats.:applause: :thumbsup: :buttrock::wip: :bowdown: :wavey:

Addiso
05-15-2005, 11:47 AM
The concept reminds me of the Mao's Long March.

I think the sky is great, but it's a bit too detailed for the characters. I tend to look more at the sky then the actual story. Also the hills/rocks at the a bottom are a bit homogeneous.
Maybe a bit more highlights on the fat guys butt should balance the comp a bit more :)

Good luck, keep it up !

arLutiK
05-17-2005, 01:36 AM
Kornél, dude I'm looking for your image of the Baron with his companions and I can't find where it is only found the one on the canonball

By the way this image rocks but I said that before.:)

eliza
05-17-2005, 05:29 AM
holly s.. this is superb-the master, the musician, the overall impression and style....im speechless mister, good work!..

kornel
05-17-2005, 06:46 AM
Arlutik: here is the link to that image and a few other... http://www.design21.hu/d21/asp/main.asp?s1=7&s2=0&s3=0&s4=0&s5=0%2C21%2Cis+not+null%2C%3Dswiras&s6=0&s7=0&s8=0&s9=0 - I hope it works...

cheers: Kornél

sgabe
05-18-2005, 11:58 AM
Hey Kornel! Yeah, another Hungarian! :D It's good to see you here! Congratulation to your final image! I like your concept and the performance too! :thumbsup: My brother, Mark (Tremoside) is in the 3D part! I will be looking for you at the voting! I wish you the best and good luck! :cool:

Gratulálok a végső képhez, tetszik az ötlet és a kép színvilága! Örülök, hogy Te sem vitted túlzásba a zimbes-zombis elemeket...Sok szerencsét az értékelésnél! ;)

NinjaA55N
05-18-2005, 05:45 PM
another great great one. I really like it coz of complex structure it has. All those details and two main colors scheme. Good luck with ur entry :)

andreasrocha
05-18-2005, 11:36 PM
Congrats Kornel. Great work!

paperclip
05-18-2005, 11:55 PM
Wow again!

I can't believe I haven't seenthis before. There are so many amazing artists popping out of the woodwork now.
The detail level is incredible, when you see the entire picture, it's almost as if you are looking into an alternate world. I love that!

Funny as hell also!:applause:
Good luck with the judging....:thumbsup:
theresa

SEL
05-19-2005, 09:35 AM
Very great comp! One of my favs in the many who posted great works here! GL

SEL

kornel
05-20-2005, 07:17 AM
Thanks guys, and good luck for eveyone! :thumbsup:

see you at the next challenge... :)

TheFirstAngel
05-24-2005, 05:23 AM
congratulations on your fantastic final, its a most beautifull work, love your design from the first to the last pixel! best of luck on the finals, and keep on rocking!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

blakbird
05-25-2005, 05:33 AM
Entry shows nearly the exact meaning of exagerated "master and servant" theme. Colors are so neat. Image is bright and sad at the same time. Noticeable work here.

Best wishes.

CGIsrael
06-03-2005, 11:37 AM
I didn't see your image before and is awesome, very very nice work, the colors, the ambient with the clouds and how you can feel the pain in the servants. I love your work.http://www.cgtalk.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=2323240#

xric7
06-30-2005, 05:35 AM
maybe next time...maybe...:)
i love this piece a lot.congrats anyway.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

ysvry
07-06-2005, 02:05 PM
nice one , you copied the lute player and the fat monk falling off, from the ship of fools painting by bosh though lol

Tranchefeux
07-10-2005, 06:24 PM
Which damage, I wanted to see among the elected officials,

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