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Ludal 03-23-2005, 01:45 PM Ludovic Vignaud has entered the Master and Servant 3D.
Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=6209)
Latest Update: Final Image: Final Image : Mistress
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1116451289_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1116451289_large.jpg)
This is the final image!
Adding some little details and correction.
For this image, I used 3dsmax, with a basic lighting with 6 spots.
ZBrush was used for the two feet under the bath and the carnivores plants, and for textures of these meshes.
The render is 3ds max default scanline, render by layer:
Vegetation near the camera
The bath with the woman
Background vegetation
And all the carnivores plants one by one
Compositing and post effects were done in Photoshop.
In final, i have 105 layers in photoshop ( flammes, dirt, highlights, slime, cracks... all details like this )
For this picture, the only source of inspiration was Alien for the carnivores plants.
I'm really happy to have finish the challenge in spite of problems with my computer, so really big thanks to my friend who helped me by rendering my project with his computer ( my computer is not enough powerfull for that greedy renders ! )
I'm sorry I don't have enough time to work a lot on compositing, my exam in my college starts soon. So , I do as i can ;)
The woman is the Mistress of the plants, she lives with them permanently in a greenhouse.The plants admires her and respects her like a god.
But these plants have tendency to too admiring her, as well for her's carism as for her's beauty, which makes them benefit from those moments of rest to approach some slowly… Do they want to eat her?
Or right to approach some for one emotional moment? In this image I wanted to represent the woman in a weak graphic position, surrounded by plants carnivores seeming aggressive.
In the content, I wanted that one feels in spite of that the hierarchical superiority of the woman, the fact that she dominates.
I wanted that at first sight, the plants seem to dominate, but that while understanding the image, one realizes that the woman dominates her plantes.
Hope you like it ;)
La femme est la Maitresse des plantes, elle vie avec elles en permanence dans une serre. Les plantes l'admire et la respecte comme un dieu.
Mais ces plantes ont tendance à trop l'admirer, tant pour son carisme que pour sa beauté, ce qui leur fait profiter de ses instants de repos pour s'en approcher lentement... veulent elles la manger ?
Ou juste s'en approcher pour un moment affectif ? Dans cette image j'ai voulu représenter la femme dans une position graphique faible, entourée de plantes carnivores semblant agressives.
Dans le fond, je voulais que l'on ressente malgré ça la supériorité hiérarchique de la femme, le fait qu'elle domine.
Je voulais qu'à première vue, les plantes semblent dominer, mais que en comprenant l'image, on se rende compte que la femme domine ses plantes.
J'éspère que vous apprécierez ;)
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Lemog
03-23-2005, 01:58 PM
Welcome here Ludo... I'm so glad to see you... I'm in hurry to read your subject and to see your first concept sketch...
See you soon mate :thumbsup:
PS: don't forget your studies... (je sais, ça fait vieux rabat-joie... hihihi)
Ludal
03-23-2005, 02:08 PM
Hi everybody!
I'm Ludo and I'm student ( 18 years old ).
I wish this contest will be a good experience :D
Good luck everybody!
i'm so glad to see you too Lemog ;)
Ludal
03-23-2005, 10:52 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1111618337_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1111618337_large.jpg)
here is the global idea..I'm sory, I'm a very bad drawer :D
Ludal
03-23-2005, 10:54 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1111618462_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1111618462_large.jpg)
here are some plants for the servants
Ludal
03-23-2005, 11:12 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1111619563_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1111619563_large.jpg)
here is the beginning of the modeling. By the way, i did shaders.
dmonk
03-23-2005, 11:22 PM
That was quick!
Nice render of the Tub.
Waiting for more.:thumbsup:
Shaykai
03-24-2005, 09:33 AM
Wow you are very quick! Its looking good, i love the lighting and shaders :)
Shaykai
Lemog
03-24-2005, 09:47 AM
Quick and very good... ! continue like that... that's a true good start and I like a lot your idea... :thumbsup: beautiful bath... but so dangerous... :scream: take care and keep dirty...
good job sofar i like idea
Ludal
03-24-2005, 11:34 AM
thx :D
I will dirty all that.
I will make some objects near the bath and then make some jewels for the woman.
Ludal
03-24-2005, 07:06 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1111691199_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1111691199_large.jpg)
this is a very little up.
I did jewels to, but i will show you after, no I have to do the woman!
Lydell
03-24-2005, 07:25 PM
That is looking good, love the texturing on the floor and bath. Can't wait to see that plant in the scene.
:thumbsup:
eYadNesS
03-25-2005, 01:12 PM
Very nice work, I liked your render... :thumbsup:
I will watch you always, good luck :)
Lemog
03-25-2005, 01:17 PM
Yep... really beautiful Ludo... :thumbsup: Take care with the soap...
Sourisman
03-25-2005, 01:17 PM
hehe bon debut mon cher Ludo !
3d scool power !!!
flaeticia
03-25-2005, 01:45 PM
You have already well advanced ludo !
It is with the good job that you supplied us there !
Pursue :bounce:
DimitrisLiatsos
03-25-2005, 01:57 PM
Very nice render with the bath...hmmmm,,are u sure u are a little Frenchie student? :)
Keep going ...the Bubble force is with u ! :bounce:
jddog
03-25-2005, 02:32 PM
excellent and quicky progress... bonne chance !!!
looks really a interesting idea... follow your steps :wip:
jdd
Zlatan B.
03-25-2005, 03:37 PM
Hi, my name is Zlatan or just Z for short. I am new here.
I love your render. Do you have a story behind your idea? What software did you use?
See my Concept Sketch:
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=223794 (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=223794)
Ludal
03-25-2005, 06:27 PM
héhé Lemog ;)
Thx sourisman and laeticia ;)
DimitrisLiatsos : yes I am :D
I'm a student and i learn CG on the net, not at school .
Thx "Z", my render is very simple, it is default scanline render. I use 3ds max.
it is difficult to explain the story in English...but i will try to explain it in another post, just the time to traduce true :D
thx everybody
Ludal
03-26-2005, 09:36 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1111872991_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1111872991_large.jpg)
I start the modeling of the body.
the stomach isn't very detailed because it will be hide by the bath.
Ludal
03-27-2005, 09:33 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1111915998_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1111915998_large.jpg)
And the head.
I have to finsh the body and attach them together. I' ll try to texture it today ;)
flaeticia
03-27-2005, 09:58 AM
You are much better than me in the organic domain ludo !
Bravo ! Continue ! :scream:
[wr]JeFf
03-27-2005, 11:19 AM
Nice work ludo !
Courage ! ;)
Ludal
03-27-2005, 04:56 PM
thx Laeticia and Jeff ;)
why don't you do the challenge Jeff ? come on !
Laeticia, i saw your challenge, the modelling of the head isn't bad at all.
You maybe just need to work longer above, simply. ;)
I'll post an up this evening ;)
Ludal
03-27-2005, 05:56 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1111946185_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1111946185_large.jpg)
I attached the body and the head together. I made textures and start skinning.
Next step: adjust the skinning, taste it and make a pose in the bath.
flaeticia
03-27-2005, 06:07 PM
Oula! That in the rather complex sight all this ! :scream:
At least you quickly advance ! :thumbsup:
jddog
03-27-2005, 06:11 PM
wow amazing progress ! :wip:
jdd
[wr]JeFf
03-28-2005, 06:01 AM
Nice work !
But i think that the breads seems to be made of silicone (too much..) it would be better if they are more natural... :)
Good luck ;)
I can't participate because i'm on exams soon and i have to prepare it... it will be for the next perhaps ;)
Ludal
03-28-2005, 08:37 AM
yes Jeff, that's right ;)
but i will make a pose for the charcter in the bath, and then re-work on the modelling.
I think it is better than search the perfect kinning with the perfect modelling ;)
Me too i have my exams tomorow during all the week, but I do the challenge:twisted:
Je te comprend Jeff, t'as fais le bon choix, pas comme moi :D
overcontrast
03-28-2005, 09:16 AM
wow a lot is goin on this thread... very nice medeled Bath u got there.. and the girl looks okay too... but i think the breasts looks too artificial... well its okay if u want them to b that. The hands, feet and the pelvis area needs more attantion. anywas, i like whaere ur going, keep up the good works :bounce: :thumbsup:
Ludal
03-28-2005, 11:21 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1112008892_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1112008892_large.jpg)
Here is a test of skin shader.
Don't make attention with the defects of modeling for the moment.
The woman is supposed being wet. C&C are welcome for the shader please ;)
[wr]JeFf
03-28-2005, 03:12 PM
nice shader..
the shadow are perhaps a little too sharp... and perhaps too dark...
hands0nfire
03-28-2005, 04:40 PM
i would like to tell you that I really strongly like the tube that you modeled and textured and the figure you design fits as well so I would like to say I really enjoyed your work..
handsonfire
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=223443 (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=223443)
Ludal
03-28-2005, 11:14 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1112051659_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1112051659_large.jpg)
Here is a new skin test. What do you think about it ?
Ludal
03-28-2005, 11:26 PM
thx Jeff ;)
but there is a lot of problems with this shader...I have to work on another new one ;)
thank you very much hands0nfire, I'm very happy if you like my work ;)
So, what do you think of my new shader ? I need your comments please :D
goktugg
03-29-2005, 12:44 AM
your's "the bath" render is looking so good!:)
good luck,man!
Zlatan B.
03-29-2005, 04:34 AM
I think that it is modeled good. I wouldn't mind getting in tub with her.
But she does look just a little rubbery and if she has naturale breast I think that because of gravity they should be little closer to her body. I am having problems in anatomical department on my model very much. I'll try and post my new renders by tomorrow morning.
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=223794
Mhyrdin
03-29-2005, 06:14 AM
No image in your thread :eek:
Fortunatly, I saw them elsewhere ;)
Go ahead Men .... :)
Lemog
03-29-2005, 09:05 AM
That's perfect man... you do much progress in your art Ludo... beautiful modeling... she's certainly a Top Model no ? :bounce:
I can't wait that's will follow...
Mhyrdin
03-29-2005, 11:40 AM
Pictures have come back !!! Ouffff ! Raahhh ! Lovely ! :love:
Schun
03-29-2005, 02:06 PM
Nice shadding (but you take Off your lovely falloff !?;)) ,
nice modeling too (exepted what I've already said to you)
good luck for the continuing !
eddieellis
03-29-2005, 02:11 PM
nice modelling man, she's certainly a stunner... i think the skin looks just alittle plasticy, but that might just be my monitor.
mireneye
03-29-2005, 02:13 PM
Waa crazy skin shader man. Wow, if I could ever figure out how to make decent skin shaders.
Overall I really like where this is heading, The bathtub is great, and the woman is hot, can it beacome anybetter remains to see.
Keep it up!
Grimreaper1981
03-29-2005, 02:18 PM
very nice work so far :drool: ;)
as zaltan said, the breasts will need a bit tweaking thou' :shrug:
Ludal
03-29-2005, 03:48 PM
thx goktug ;)
Yes you're right Zlatan B. but i think the base of it will be hide by the bath ;)
so thats not really a problem.
Thx a lot mhyrdin and lemog :D
Héhé schun! yes! no falloff this time :) only for cartoonish characters. Oh and why not for the woman :D
No i d'ont think.
yes eddieellis i will rework on this shader, it is far to be perfect:wise:
mireneye--> thank you man!
Grimreaper1981---> thx, i will post an up, but actually I pass my exam so it is very hard to work on my project:sad:
Ludal
03-30-2005, 10:30 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1112178650_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1112178650_large.jpg)
here is the first version of the plant.
It's only teh beggining.
I have to ad some details, and of course teeth, one or too leaves etc..
Ludal
03-30-2005, 10:34 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1112178865_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1112178865_large.jpg)
adding some details.
what do you think ?
Lemog
03-30-2005, 10:35 AM
Fina mate... very good... I'm must learn Zbeee with you now :)
Canche
03-30-2005, 10:59 AM
That scene is something that I always wanted to see on CG. just like in the japanese comics.
So far so sexy.
good luck!
Ludal
03-30-2005, 12:08 PM
Fina mate... very good... I'm must learn Zbeee with you now :)
héhé :D
Canche ---> i hope it will be as sexy as I imagine... We wiil see:wise:
DaddyMack
03-30-2005, 12:27 PM
This just looks amazing Ludal, now go and take a coupla weeks rest while we all catch up ;)
Keep up the great work:thumbsup:
Ravendsg
03-30-2005, 12:46 PM
Beautiful bathtub you have there hehe and great details on the plant! Can't wait for the teeths to grow dude :thumbsup:
Ludal
03-30-2005, 01:33 PM
This just looks amazing Ludal, now go and take a coupla weeks rest while we all catch up ;)
Keep up the great work:thumbsup:
hehe
I will be absent next week, but just one week, sorry :D
Ravendsg---> me too I can't wait! :p
pigwater
03-30-2005, 01:40 PM
great stuff ya got here ... enjoy the time off next week and thanks for giving the rest of us time to catch up:)
nice, nice work
Larsen
03-30-2005, 03:00 PM
Hi Ludo, i found your thread through your sig...pretty nice work ! I haven't really understood the story but your models and shaders looks very cool , i'm subscribing to look forward for the story and more fine pictures :buttrock:
Ludal
03-30-2005, 07:36 PM
great stuff ya got here ... enjoy the time off next week and thanks for giving the rest of us time to catch up:)
nice, nice work
;)
no problem for the story, here i'm in my exam, i have no time to do this, after i will explain it ;)
thx everybody
Lemog
03-30-2005, 09:46 PM
here i'm in my exam,
Certainly the most important Ludo... then, to employed the consacred word : merde :thumbsup:
Ludal
03-31-2005, 06:47 PM
ah here my exam are finishes ! thx lemog ( meme si on doit pas dire merci, mais bon c'est fini )
there is a last one monday but i'll be in belgium at Discreet center héhé :D
Today i'd pass my english! it was so easy :D
so now it's finish and i can rework on the challenge!
Larsen
03-31-2005, 06:58 PM
Today i'd pass my english! it was so easy :D
hehe, thanx to cgtalk for that :bowdown:
Notanymore
03-31-2005, 07:06 PM
Tout simplement impressionnant...
:applause:
Great idea and model Ludal! Keep it up!
Ludal
03-31-2005, 08:26 PM
hehe, thanx to cgtalk for that :bowdown:
yes that's right! THX TO CGTALK TO HelP ME TO WORK MY ENGLISH :D
StormrageJunior ---> thx a lot man :D
reiv---> thx, i saw your thread, very nice model! can't wait to see the next up :p
Lemog
04-01-2005, 06:00 AM
yes that's right! THX TO CGTALK TO HelP ME TO WORK MY ENGLISH :D
mmmh... it's the same thing for me... sincerely, I think in 20 years... my progress in english will be visible... :scream:
Ludal
04-01-2005, 03:03 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1112367803_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1112367803_large.jpg)
here it is a leaf for the carnivore plant. It isn't very detailled but it will be far of the camera in the final image.
thanks
Grimreaper1981
04-01-2005, 03:10 PM
Well ludal, congrats for your exam...and for your pics, can't wait to see the final compo...:thumbsup:
[wr]JeFf
04-01-2005, 07:23 PM
Very nice ZBrushisation i guess... ;)
Ludal
04-02-2005, 12:24 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1112444682_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1112444682_large.jpg)
here is a new version of the leaf.
the leaf is thinner, I think it's better.
C & C are welcome please :)
Great images :thumbsup:
I like your plants!
Ludal
04-03-2005, 12:05 PM
Thx ps.pl ;)
Well I leaves to the discreet center in belgium this week ;)
I hope that you will have all quite advanced in your challenge :d
At the next week everybody!:thumbsup:
javaejderi
04-03-2005, 03:04 PM
hey,
It seems I'll fall in love with your model when finished:)!!! Z-brush stuffs with the plants are satisfactory, but they still need some tweaking, z-brushing and scaling...Bath tub is well-done:thumbsup:
Good luck!!! Watching you close!!!
Lemog
04-04-2005, 07:19 AM
mmmh, yeah, perhaps should you make the sheets a little less thick, in any case, your plants are very simpathic and nice... good work done... :thumbsup:
jddog
04-04-2005, 09:18 AM
you made a really interesting work on the body... :wip:
jdd
Ludal
04-14-2005, 01:08 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1113437278_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1113437278_large.jpg)
this is another plant head, I' don't have a lot of time actually, I'm sorry.
hope you like it.
C & C are welcome ;)
PhilPJ
04-14-2005, 08:03 AM
Hi Ludo,
very nice your cornivorus plant :cool:
Mhyrdin
04-14-2005, 09:20 AM
Hi ! that's plants that looklike Tyranosaurus rex :)
I like it :thumbsup:
Ludal
04-14-2005, 12:38 PM
héhé thx men!
that's right mhyrdin, and it's the aim, to get the look of the plant more agressive.
I try to post a new up today, the end of modelling of the first plant ;)
Oyani
04-14-2005, 01:09 PM
Alors je vois que tu avances bien avec tes plantas carnivoras, je crois que je vais bientot m inscrire au concours j ai peut etre un concept pas trop mal, en tous cas je te dis merde ...
good luck (en english)
a+
Ludal
04-14-2005, 05:53 PM
hey Aldo!
comment tu vas ? ah ça fait plaisir de te voir ici!
Commence le vite ton challenge je veux te suisvre pas a pas ;)
A bientot j'espere et merde a toi aussi !
tanguy3d
04-15-2005, 12:24 PM
incredible work !!! it seems you finally found your way...
hope the news you learned from advanced will help you improving your skills and your scene...
keep on working it's going to be the first price...
friendly ,
tanguy3d
Ludal
04-15-2005, 02:02 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1113570164_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1113570164_large.jpg)
adding more details on the first plant.
Ludal
04-15-2005, 02:04 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1113570283_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1113570283_large.jpg)
the version with a tongue.
which one do you prefer ?
Ludal
04-15-2005, 09:16 PM
hey tanguy!
i'm so glad to see you here!
Thx for your congrats man ;)
Ludal
04-17-2005, 06:30 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1113759031_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1113759031_large.jpg)
Well, so :
Now the woman is in the bath, with a VERY VERY BASIC SKINNING. I'll refine the mesh of course ;)
Splines are for futures lianas.
Lemog
04-18-2005, 07:24 AM
Mmmmh... I'm very happy you can rework on your project Ludo... nice updates... I always find this is a so original and interesting subject... I'm waiting impatiently the next pictures... superbe travail gars... j'aime beaucoup ton idée... vas-y, fais pêter la suite :thumbsup:
Ludal
04-18-2005, 04:05 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1113836729_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1113836729_large.jpg)
Thx a lot Lemog ;)
here is a little up of the lianas, and a little refine of the body.
I need crits for the shapes of the body please ;)
Ludal
04-18-2005, 06:25 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1113845112_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1113845112_large.jpg)
just a littlle up ;)
Oyani
04-18-2005, 07:32 PM
yo ludo i can see that you are a very speed challenger that's cool , for comments i think that the shoulder is a little high for the relax pose of the girl , but you are in a good tryp keep on working man ...:thumbsup:
tchuss
ps:j ai pas encore poste mon concept je te tiens au jus .
Schun
04-19-2005, 04:09 PM
Yeah Ludal
verry nice update !
I like the last rendering with the vegetals
still smells good :D
Bonne contin'
venum
04-19-2005, 09:14 PM
Really promissing ludal :buttrock:
The concept is good. there is a nice ambiance.
the modelling is is awsome. I like all the detail you add the plant.
I look foward to see more update.
a suivre!
Lemog
04-27-2005, 06:32 AM
No update here... ? hollidays ? studies ? girls ?? certainly a girl, no ? ou une tite perle peut-être ?
Pas taper Ludo... pas taper... :scream: hahahahahaha...
Ludal
04-27-2005, 09:16 PM
héhé Lemog :wise:
Une tite perle ? hein ? quoi ? je suis pas au courant :love:
yes I acknowledge all, studies + my wife + 3D.... wow, it's hard to work!
This week end i'll find more time to work on the project, I miss my plant's mistress :)
Lemog
04-27-2005, 09:21 PM
This week end i'll find more time to work on the project...
Yeah... good news :thumbsup:
Ludal
04-27-2005, 09:23 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1114633402_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1114633402_large.jpg)
here is an exemple of plant, leaves.
Ludal
04-27-2005, 10:10 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1114636236_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1114636236_large.jpg)
the new update, just adding some plants... More plants to come ;)
Lemog
04-27-2005, 11:07 PM
Something disturb me a little... previously, you have something very clean... in adequation with the style... not lot of objects, and visibles... and now, these new plants which come of nowhere seem strange. maybe too much, or too much same plants... I don't know exactly for the moment.
I think you know what you want, and so, I must waiting the continuation... :bounce:
Neeno
04-28-2005, 01:47 AM
this is fantastic!! really liking the progress on this... great work mate!! going to be a very promising piece of digital art! keep it up
Ludal
05-02-2005, 10:07 PM
thx for your comments guys.
But I have a big problem, and i think i'll can't continue the challenge....
My computer isn't enough powerfull, and it freeze at every render...
I'll try to find a solution, but i'm very pessimist:sad:
I don't want to stop, but my computer isn't as powerfull as i need...
I'm sorry...But I'll try as I can...
Lemog
05-03-2005, 05:50 AM
If you can continue with your scene like that cause your computer, you can try to cut your scene in few files, as few layers... more light to computing... and you can composite these layers at the end in photoshop, no ?
But it's very strange, your scene doesn't appear very big ? you don't have so much elements ? a bit odd then...
I hope sincerely you can continue this challenge, I like so much you image and that will be very sad if you can't finish your picture.
Always a solution is possible... je compte sur toi gars :thumbsup: Keep it up Ludo :bounce:
Larsen
05-03-2005, 10:12 AM
Yeah as Lemog said you can find a solution... btw, what software are you using and how are made the plants ? Is it a generator or geometry+textures...?
Hope we could see more of this piece, it's very interesting to follow and this last render looks pretty good !
jddog
05-03-2005, 10:27 AM
you can try to cut your scene in few files, as few layers... more light to computing... and you can composite these layers at the end in photoshop, no ?
I think Lemog point you to the right direction to keep !
:wip:
jdd
Ludal
05-03-2005, 04:31 PM
thx guys !
for the moment i try to find a solution with somebody, i'll use he's computer to render my pictures....It works with he's machine!
It a hard way to work, but I'm near the end...
I'll try :)
Ludal
05-03-2005, 05:07 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1115136442_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1115136442_large.jpg)
OUf!
well so here is a new render, made with the computer of a friend.
Mine isn't enough powerfull!
Sont there is a problem with shadows, the density, i'll refine this ;)
It's a test with raytraced shadows ( 3hours of render ...). But for the others test i'll use shadow maps :D
Lemog
05-03-2005, 05:22 PM
You can continue... it's a good news... but I don't understand how you can have a so big render time... it's incredible... :eek: in any case... good luck for your final way :thumbsup:
JayCally
05-03-2005, 06:36 PM
Love the plant textures in your scene. Nice Job. :applause:
CuneytGuclu
05-03-2005, 06:39 PM
I like very much your plants texture man and nice scene:thumbsup:
Ludal
05-06-2005, 06:35 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1115400922_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1115400922_large.jpg)
here is a new render of my scene, adding some plants and refine a little the lighting.
Ludal
05-06-2005, 09:05 PM
raytraced shadows are the reason of this so long render time Lemog ;)
But now I continue with shadow map, i'll test the two differents type at the final render to see wich is the better :thumbsup:
But fot the moment shadow map are better because quicker :D
Thx men for your comments about my plant's textures.
For the next update i'll work on carnivores plants to include in the scene :bounce:
Ludal
05-07-2005, 11:11 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1115460701_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1115460701_large.jpg)
just a little test of environment....just for see what the final image can look like.
It's going to be hard to work on this week end with studies , but i'll try, deadline is close !
overcontrast
05-07-2005, 10:20 PM
this is soo sweet.. i love the enveronment.. are you gonna work on the girl's texture or do u intend to keep it like that?... anywas great work man.. keep it up :thumbsup:
Lemog
05-09-2005, 06:00 AM
That come great my friend, really :thumbsup: you are need to the end now... go go go Ludo :bounce:
Ludal
05-09-2005, 10:21 PM
thx men ;)
Yes I'll refine the woman if I have the time to do it, by adding a texture :thumbsup:
Thx Lemog, I hope I'll finish the challenge at time !
Next update : textures
Ludal
05-09-2005, 10:30 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1115674216_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1115674216_large.jpg)
a texture for a plant, made in Zbrush and render in 3ds max.
Ludal
05-09-2005, 10:32 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1115674367_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1115674367_large.jpg)
The same in another position, made and texturing in Zbrush, render in 3ds max. It's the first time I try. Hope you like it ;)
venum
05-09-2005, 11:23 PM
:)
Cool Ludal! You decide to carry on.
You plant look nice, the shading is good. I like a lot the teeth.
But about the set, the bathroom. I don't know if it's the depth of field. But it's a bit messy. We can't read the foreground and the background.
:thumbsup::wise::scream: good job!
Lemog
05-10-2005, 05:46 AM
For sure... impressive teeth... the nightmare come :scream: Good update Ludo :)
Ludal
05-11-2005, 06:48 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1115833687_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1115833687_large.jpg)
This is a render by layers, compositing in photoshop.
I add two carnivores plants and hair.
Hope you like it :)
eddieellis
05-11-2005, 07:17 PM
excellent work dude !:thumbsup:
melkao
05-11-2005, 08:07 PM
:eek:Wow man ...thats a perfect render:twisted:.......the lights, the textures, the models...nyway, everything.
Good work:thumbsup:
smaddl
05-11-2005, 08:59 PM
beautiful work :thumbsup:
venum
05-12-2005, 12:51 AM
:thumbsup::scream:
Nice work ludal!
Really interesting composition and really fresh!
:thumbsup::applause::D
Lemog
05-12-2005, 09:11 AM
Well done mate... really impressive picture... :thumbsup: I'm will be very happy to see it in a bigger size...
Congratulations... you can be proud of you Ludo :bowdown:
gpepper
05-12-2005, 10:27 AM
Great job ! A very poetic composition !
manikantkujur
05-12-2005, 01:17 PM
gud ........Keep it up
gud modelling and texturing
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=225407&page=4
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=225407&page=4
:wise:
Ludal
05-12-2005, 07:07 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1115921221_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1115921221_large.jpg)
Thx a lot everybody!
I'm so glad! Thank's for your congratulations!
all my carnivores plants in a composition, just for a test of lighting.
Every plants are done by individual render, and then composite together.
The lighting setup is simple, 4 spots with various intensity and colors.
It's a scanline render.
venum
05-12-2005, 11:47 PM
:scream:Your plant is actually nice!
You should use them in a more interesting way in your compostion. It's too bad to not use them in a efficient way.
C'est dommage que tu profites pas de tes plantes mieux que ca dans ta composition. Elles sont superbe.
:twisted::applause::buttrock:
Ludal
05-16-2005, 12:30 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1116243001_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1116243001_large.jpg)
this is the composition... do you think it could be the final image ?
Thx for comments ;)
Lemog
05-16-2005, 12:43 PM
Beautiful Ludo... I will say that in french coz I miss some words for explanation : le seul petit détail qui me gêne vraiment se situe au niveau des cheveux, notemment leur implantation... il y a un gros manque à l'endroit des tempes... même si à cet endroit, c'est souvent moins dense. Son implantation ressemble un peu à celle d'une barbie... It's a really small detail... and the final way is yours... best wishes my friend :thumbsup:
CryingHorn
05-16-2005, 01:42 PM
Cool... The plants really do not look friendly :surprised: great job!
venum
05-16-2005, 01:42 PM
:thumbsup:
Good work ludal! It's a great composition
bien joue.
:twisted::deal::buttrock::applause:
[wr]JeFf
05-16-2005, 04:05 PM
Very good work Ludo ;)
http://users.skynet.be/wrjeff/smyley/trinquer.gifhttp://users.skynet.be/wrjeff/smyley/trinquer.gifhttp://users.skynet.be/wrjeff/smyley/trinquer.gifhttp://users.skynet.be/wrjeff/smyley/trinquer.gif
man your image is amazing i just think the woman texture can be better.. c ya !
Ludal
05-16-2005, 07:10 PM
Thx a lot mens ;)
Yes Lemog I agree with you, I'll see what I can do about this.
Crying Horn ---> héhé :twisted: , of course it's the aim, contrast with the woman.
Venum, Jeff --> thx ;)
Gra7, I 'think you are right, But I can't render anymore because my pc isn't enought powerfull...so..I'll try to refine this in photoshop. Just try :rolleyes:
jddog
05-17-2005, 01:48 PM
wow chapeau... qeul splendide image !
Congrats that reall amazng, not so much comment to post for me you last image... is really great, but I'm agree with Lemog comment.
jdd
xric7
05-17-2005, 01:57 PM
great work!
nice idea and art work.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
love the ambiance a lot.
congrats.:buttrock:
3dRaven
05-17-2005, 02:56 PM
Great modeling. Love the girl and the plants. Nice shader work...great slime'y effect sorta reminds me of alien :D . The ambience is real soft..fit the pic.
Good luck :thumbsup:
Tremoside
05-17-2005, 03:24 PM
I found your thread too late :sad:....it's amazing and exciting....dangerous environment for sure! :thumbsup:
ilusiondigital
05-17-2005, 03:27 PM
Wooooowoooowoo i miss this one, it´s an outstanding image, it´s like an 2d jewel, love it, congrats
aliasali
05-17-2005, 07:47 PM
hey.,Ludal..great job so far...i liked the concept...Original..:thumbsup:
Deadlyforce
05-17-2005, 09:33 PM
Wahow ! I like it !
Special vote for the carnivorous plants ! Nice rendering !
Everything is so cool that it is maybe too bad that you squashed the composition like that...I would have loved to see more of the environment above the girl...
But maybe computer calculations and time were involved so...congrats anyway !
:):thumbsup:
Ludal
05-17-2005, 09:41 PM
thx a lot everybody :D
jddog ----> merci beaucoup, en ce qui concerne les cheveux je vais retoucher mais très legerement j'ai pas trop le temps la c'est tout speed en ce moment... Thx :)
xric7---> Yes I'd try to have the more ambiance as possible, to give a reel atmosphere to the scene...it's my aim ...it's hard... but if you find it's a good result...I'm happy :bounce:
3dRaven---> Thx man! It's exactly what I want it look like, Alien :twisted: It' was one of my source of inspiration!
Tremoside---> hehe yes thx man, your pic is really nice too ;)
ilusiondigital, Madlight_1988---> WOOOww, your enthusiasme is so flattering ! Thnk you very much men
Wandddo
05-17-2005, 09:46 PM
Wow man, it's great!!! Your work is very well done man...congrats and good luck to you mate!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: I'll return to see the final image, ok?;)
cheers
Ludal
05-18-2005, 12:21 PM
thx a lot Deadly Force ! Yes at the beginning that was what I wanted to do, but rendering time would be too long.
thx Wandddo, for the final, I'll post it during the day ;)
pissaro
05-18-2005, 02:38 PM
great, man .... great
hhssuu
05-18-2005, 05:59 PM
It's looking very very good. Love the lighting and though plants, they're cool. Great job:thumbsup:, and good luck in your final stage. Hope to see the final final soon.
arkinet
05-18-2005, 06:08 PM
looks great bro, & looks like final to me. good luck!
wuxi_dakar
05-18-2005, 06:15 PM
good work:thumbsup:
Ludal
05-18-2005, 08:43 PM
Thx a lot men for your congrats :bounce:
I have a little problem for uploading final image tiff on the ftp....
When finish upload, I have this message under the thumbnail :
If this image is not correct, please try refreshing your browser. If that does not work, try uploading it again!
Someone have the same problem ?
Ludal
05-18-2005, 10:21 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1116451289_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6209/6209_1116451289_large.jpg)
This is the final image!
Adding some little details and correction.
For this image, I used 3dsmax, with a basic lighting with 6 spots.
ZBrush was used for the two feet under the bath and the carnivores plants, and for textures of these meshes.
The render is 3ds max default scanline, render by layer:
Vegetation near the camera
The bath with the woman
Background vegetation
And all the carnivores plants one by one
Compositing and post effects were done in Photoshop.
In final, i have 105 layers in photoshop ( flammes, dirt, highlights, slime, cracks... all details like this )
For this picture, the only source of inspiration was Alien for the carnivores plants.
I\\\'m really happy to have finish the challenge in spite of problems with my computer, so really big thanks to my friend who helped me by rendering my project with his computer ( my computer is not enough powerfull for that greedy renders ! )
I\\\'m sorry I don\\\'t have enough time to work a lot on compositing, my exam in my college starts soon. So , I do as i can ;)
The woman is the Mistress of the plants, she lives with them permanently in a greenhouse.The plants admires her and respects her like a god.
But these plants have tendency to too admiring her, as well for her\\\'s carism as for her\\\'s beauty, which makes them benefit from those moments of rest to approach some slowly… Do they want to eat her?
Or right to approach some for one emotional moment? In this image I wanted to represent the woman in a weak graphic position, surrounded by plants carnivores seeming aggressive.
In the content, I wanted that one feels in spite of that the hierarchical superiority of the woman, the fact that she dominates.
I wanted that at first sight, the plants seem to dominate, but that while understanding the image, one realizes that the woman dominates her plantes.
Hope you like it ;)
La femme est la Maitresse des plantes, elle vie avec elles en permanence dans une serre. Les plantes l\\\'admire et la respecte comme un dieu.
Mais ces plantes ont tendance à trop l\\\'admirer, tant pour son carisme que pour sa beauté, ce qui leur fait profiter de ses instants de repos pour s\\\'en approcher lentement... veulent elles la manger ?
Ou juste s\\\'en approcher pour un moment affectif ? Dans cette image j\\\'ai voulu représenter la femme dans une position graphique faible, entourée de plantes carnivores semblant agressives.
Dans le fond, je voulais que l\\\'on ressente malgré ça la supériorité hiérarchique de la femme, le fait qu\\\'elle domine.
Je voulais qu\\\'à première vue, les plantes semblent dominer, mais que en comprenant l\\\'image, on se rende compte que la femme domine ses plantes.
J\\\'éspère que vous apprécierez ;)
Wandddo
05-18-2005, 10:28 PM
Hey man, I believe it's ok... with me the same thing happened, but in the after day I receive the message that was all right... This message exist for you check if the image be or not be the real final image... if you have some doubt, try contact one leader forum...ok?
Nakary
05-18-2005, 10:29 PM
Hello there Ludal, very nice render, congratulations, you have lots of talent, very young and very talented, you sure will get FAR!
Finishing on time has a lot of value, show how profesional you can be, sorry to hear you had computer problems, it always happens to all of us I gues...
Regards.
Richard.
Ludal
05-18-2005, 11:34 PM
ok Wandddo !
So I believe you! I don't worry about that ;)
Nakary ---> thanks you so much! Your congrats are so pleasants! For my computer , it was a big problem, it freeze during renders...ooops...
So I benefit from the situation to thx everybody who helped me, particularly Nico for his machine for renders and Marion. And of course thx to all members of cgtalk ;)
safe05
05-19-2005, 03:13 AM
Really nice entry Ludovic! Great comp and concept. I particularly like how you filled the image will details/plants. Well done!
Ludal
05-19-2005, 05:53 AM
Thank you safe05 :D It was exactly what I wanted in the beginning of the challenge for the position of the principles plants.
For the upload page, this message isn't an error ! I asked this in the FAQ, this message is normal !
So don't worry if you read the same in your upload page everybody ;)
All is all right :thumbsup:
Lemog
05-19-2005, 06:50 AM
Chapeau bas l'ami... tu sembles avoir rempli ton contrat à la perfection... bravo...
Congratulations, you can be proud, you've done a real masterpiece Ludo... really :thumbsup: I like your composition... at the same time full with force and sensitivity... great, you can continue in this way :arteest:
DaVee
05-19-2005, 07:03 AM
WOAW, i like the final render. Many details.
Good Luck.
David.
Mhyrdin
05-19-2005, 08:09 AM
J'ai eu l'occasion de te le dire souvent
Franchement tu m'impressionnes Ludo
Bonne chance ...:thumbsup:
theuni
05-19-2005, 09:44 AM
Hi,
great image & idea... I really like the mood you caught in there. Especially the lightning is SUPER!!!
Ludal
05-19-2005, 12:29 PM
Merci bien Lemog, tu as été je coris la personne qui m'a le plus soutenu sur cgtalk, je t'en remercie sincèrement :wise: Thx for the "force and sensitivity", it's exactly what I wanted to do in my composition, glad to have reached that point so !
Thx david :thumbsup:
Hey Mhyrdin, happy to see a comment from you for my final image ! Thank you to have always supported me since the beginning on this french forum: 3dscool !:bounce: :thumbsup:
theuni ---> thx man, the lightning is basic you know, based on 3 spots..adding somme additionals light to make the whole more adapted has the wanted atmosphere.
3dRaven
05-19-2005, 12:32 PM
Happy you were able to finish the upload :D
arte-i45
05-19-2005, 02:09 PM
Hey there Ludo, you did a great job going from concept to 3D it turned out excellent! :thumbsup: Wonderful job on the vegetation. Best of luck to you! :D
Matt
Ludal
05-19-2005, 03:25 PM
Thx a lot for your help yesterday 3dRaven ;)
many thanks mmbenya, I found your image cool too :thumbsup:
tanguy3d
05-20-2005, 12:25 AM
I just wanted to visit the forum in order to check your final render...and have to add congratulations...really imprevise work an progress you 've done...
I hope it's gonna be the first price or not so far according to what I 've seen around here...
yet, I hope you also succeeded you exams... and go so far away , so long you 're gonna be a worlwilde famous 3d artist...
truly yours ,
tanguy3d
InTerceptoV
05-20-2005, 10:36 AM
The more I look the more I like it... very well done! ;) Did those plant borrowed teeth from alien...
Ludal
05-20-2005, 07:54 PM
I just wanted to visit the forum in order to check your final render...and have to add congratulations...really imprevise work an progress you 've done...
I hope it's gonna be the first price or not so far according to what I 've seen around here...
yet, I hope you also succeeded you exams... and go so far away , so long you 're gonna be a worlwilde famous 3d artist...
truly yours ,
tanguy3d
:blush: C'est si gentil, merci enormément Tanguy !
I'm so glad to see you here :bounce:
thx you very much!
The more I look the more I like it... very well done! ;) Did those plant borrowed teeth from alien...
thx a lot man ! Alien, my real source of inspiration :twisted:
Maxter
05-21-2005, 07:54 PM
Fine composition... nice environment and well detailed scene
Congratulations!!!:thumbsup:
Ludal
05-23-2005, 10:43 AM
Thx Maxter :thumbsup:
Happy you like it :bounce:
aliasali
05-23-2005, 01:11 PM
Hey Ludal,uv done a great job! Nice one! Congrats,and good luck...:thumbsup: ;)
Ludal
05-24-2005, 02:51 PM
thx and good luck to you man :thumbsup:
Schun
05-24-2005, 03:43 PM
Yo Ludo,
verry nice image I think ... I like a lot the plant (les carnivores ^^)
Clair
ta progression semble énorme (ou alors tu cachais bien ton jeu)
Bien joué man !
à +
Lemog
05-24-2005, 03:53 PM
Yo Ludo,
verry nice image I think ... I like a lot the plant (les carnivores ^^)
Clair
ta progression semble énorme (ou alors tu cachais bien ton jeu)
Bien joué man !
à +
You're totally right Schun, in few month, our friend have progressed as me in many years... respect to the kid :bowdown:
Ludal
05-25-2005, 06:44 PM
Hey schun ! thx man :thumbsup:
I saw your post on the scool ;)
I'm happy you like the plants !
Héhé pour la progression ben je sais pas :D mais je cachais rien promi :D
Merci encore a toi ;)
Hehe Lemog, thx :thumbsup:
It's the new generation, caution ! With the new technologie ;) lol
Many many thx ;)
Ludal
06-03-2005, 08:04 PM
Hi everybody,
I made a little vidéo ( poor quality, made for fun quickly ;) ) about the compositing of my image.
I don't show my 105 layers, but just some short stages.
http://ludocorp.free.fr/vid%e9os/misstress%20compositing%20Ludo.avi
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