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Paszczak
03-23-2005, 10:48 AM
Pawel Libiszewski has entered the Master and Servant 3D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=6185)

Latest Update: Modeling: Final submission :/
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1116371806_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1116371806_large.jpg)

This is my final upload :/. Thx for every comment and for watching this entry. I hope that we all met on next challenge (and I'll finish it :) ).

Paszczak
03-23-2005, 11:03 AM
hello
This is my first post here on CgTalk ;)
Have fun and good luck!

Paszczak
04-04-2005, 11:19 AM
Ok- I developed many sketches but they were all in the same mood. Mood of brute dependence (monster-slave, chain ,human-master). So I decide to try something diffrent. This is a story behind the scene:

It was in 1410 year. The summer was at its beginning and the time was just after dinner. Warmir was about to fall asleep, when he heard from the courtyard of his properties, clatter of horses’ hooves. He has heard this sound many times so far but in this particular moment he heard something annoying and disturbing. He decided to check personalny what was hapenning. He went through the courtyard as it was the shortest possible way. There he saw two unknown riders and a small group of his servants. They were elbowing theirs way but when they saw Warmir they decided to calm down. The unknown guests immediately jumped down from their steeds and they bowed in a very noble way to their master who was the owner of the castle called “Huge Rock”. They explained who they were and what was the reason of their arrival to this over hundred - year house of Benesz properties. They introduced themselves as the messengers ( and to prove it they showed seals which were given to them by their superiors ). The news which they have announced from village to village were interesting enough to interest Warmir “Furious Bull” Benesz. He was informed that the war broke out.
Warmir “Furious Bull” Benesz was well known especially from his brave deeds in all the Royalty. Ever since he has belonged to this small group of extinct knights who have never pulled back from the battlefield. In his teenage years, Benesz was taught by the most considerable fencing masters in feudal Europe ( the stories say that he studied even in Johannnesa Liechtenaurea ). There were many legends about him and they have been hardly ever exeggerated. “Furious Bull” deserved totally on his nickname, because he has loved so much his martial trade and he was master in this.
It is no wonder that the news about the war were sealed by having all teeth in his mouth. ( as it was unusual rarity in those times ).
Samson – Warmir’s faithful servant was observing all chaos in front of the courtyard. He has seen that kind of smile many times.
Fierce Bull was also famous for his uncontrollable character. He was very demading for himself and for other people ( but it was one exception to this rule – it didn’t apply to his wife and daughters, those could even jump on his nut and he didn’t bat an eyelid ).He wasn’t this type of man who behaves like a tyrant but whenever somebody was disobedient, he punishes him very severely. Each of his servants has at least once in their’s life felt Benesz’s hard hand. Every, but not Samson Buzek. Samson was the oldest servant from Warmir’s personal retinue. He has lived in the castle since Benesz has remembered, but it was obvious that Buzek didn’t come from the Kingdom. When Warmir was a child, he remembered that he sometimes played with Samson. When he attained the age of adulthood and he was knighted, father gave him a gift – that was Samson, his first and most important squire. Within the years of martial wandering Warmir and Samson were always travelling together. Apart from the vast difference of age and possession, the special bond has been created between them. The foundation of this friendship was caused by unusual event which led to these wonderful relations. As the story says Samson saved Benesz’s life. It was in the times when Warmir’s fierce character was extremely above his experience and abilities. But it was old history.
Now Samson was seating in the corner of the courtyard and he was looking at his master. He has seen this smile many times and it was this kind of smile which heralds troubles.
Warmir ordered departure in the early hours of morning. The aim was simple. He intended to reach to the place of troops’ concentration as quick as possible. He told his servants to prepare his ancestral armour which was made by master von Hamerstoff. It consists of his favourite two – handed sword, achieved gem made from damascen steel which weighs like a one - handed sword and was as sharp as razor, and his favourite steed. Through these years they have served him at the battlefields very well.
They set out on a journey at dawn. They had a long distance at the end of the Royalty. But there haven’t been any special problems during the way. The last day of their trip began with very fast breakfast as usually and was even funny. Samson was honoured riding at his master’s side and was talking with him all the time. The chat was extremely interesting and it was connected with perfidy of females. But it was not only the topic which was very fascinating but also the weather, which led them in a good mood. Samson was trying to be ironic and his remarks were making their trip more light and tolerable. The master and his servant were joking and laughing and they were unconscious that this journey was the last one for one of them.

My goal is to portrait this morning chat between master and servant.

Paszczak
04-13-2005, 12:13 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1113347594_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1113347594_large.jpg)

Concept of morning chat.

Paszczak
04-19-2005, 07:04 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1113933864_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1113933864_large.jpg)

from box to mid res. next step-zbrush

Paszczak
04-19-2005, 07:10 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1113934243_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1113934243_large.jpg)

I planned min. 5 horses in scene -they all will be combination of this one.
max for posing and zbrush for hires detail

Paszczak
04-19-2005, 07:14 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1113934487_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1113934487_large.jpg)

character for posing purpose(min. 5 human's planned).

Paszczak
04-19-2005, 07:21 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1113934909_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1113934909_large.jpg)

low res character with rig

3dRaven
04-19-2005, 07:43 PM
Nice progress Pawel. I like the musles on the horse :thumbsup: The concept is looking real good too.

Powodzenia :)

Paszczak
04-22-2005, 04:47 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1114184861_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1114184861_large.jpg)

the goal here was to create strong horse character-this is the battle horse of bravest medieval knight.

3dRaven
04-22-2005, 05:16 PM
The horse looks amazing. Have you stared ZB the human yet?. Hope you finish in time still a lot to do...

PBlades
04-22-2005, 05:28 PM
Excellent horse anatomy Axisman, its looking sweet.

smaddl
04-22-2005, 08:23 PM
wow!! great horse. excellent modeling :bounce:

BlackNull
04-22-2005, 08:48 PM
looking really sweet indeed, impressive

arLutiK
04-22-2005, 09:18 PM
Great work, love the exageration in the muscles. :thumbsup:

Paszczak
04-25-2005, 12:19 AM
thanks to all for kind words :)

3dRaven-I plan use zb only for faces and arms of characters. and yesss- time is my bigest enemy :/

overcontrast
04-25-2005, 02:24 AM
you have here a very straightforeward concept, which i erally like, and u have got a great start on the modleing process. Although time is always the worse enemy, i suggest u give ur 100% anyways, casue the idea is too good to be abandened... so wish u all the best and, run like a stalion! :thumbsup:

Neeno
04-25-2005, 05:50 AM
your horse is inspiring ... damn z brush adds alot of detail doesnt it./. i wish i was able to use it but unfortunantly no $$$ ... anyway good luck modeling start looks great!

akin
04-26-2005, 02:22 PM
l realy impressed of the horse model. that s look like the one leonardo draw.

keep on speed man. keep on updating

Paszczak
04-27-2005, 12:50 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1114559452_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1114559452_large.jpg)

not 100% finish but almost. now I need create master and then I will return to finish horse.

Paszczak
04-27-2005, 12:52 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1114559553_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1114559553_large.jpg)

not 100% finish but almost. now I need create master and then I will return to finish horse.

mosconariz
04-27-2005, 02:14 AM
Wow! beautiful detail!

arLutiK
04-27-2005, 03:48 AM
Wow very nice modeling, great work on the head of the horse, and details of the armor :thumbsup:

blakbird
04-27-2005, 04:27 AM
Warhorse is soooo lovely. I wish I'd have and ride one like it.

Climax
04-27-2005, 04:44 AM
• Nice Horse Pawel, I have to make one for my image too, i hope i can make it as good as yours, i just have one comment, he looks a bit too robust, but i don't know if that was the intention, so keep the good job man! I like how it is comming :thumbsup:

overcontrast
04-27-2005, 04:51 AM
okay, let me honest with it... please dont take my comments otherwise... well....... this is the most cooolest looking horse model i have ever seen in my entire life!!... now just guess how i feel about ur horse....(:gotcha:) man this is simply awesome. the muscles, the belts, the armours everything is just perfect.... but one thing is a bit weird abt it... i dont think his balence is fully correct.. u might want to look into it...... keep up the good works mate :thumbsup:

Neeno
04-27-2005, 05:21 AM
mate... truly inspiring... your horse is excellent... i agree with contrast probably best i ever seen...

LouisBrowne
04-27-2005, 05:23 AM
Impressive indeed, I'm assuming your using zbrush> It's so easy to end up with a overly detailed & bumpy mesh, but I'm loving the control you have in your mesh. Zbrush or no zbrush, you have the perfect amount of detail!
Wicked head btw

hhssuu
04-27-2005, 06:14 AM
i really like your latest horse model, the details are weel controlled and no overkill of zBrush. The belts and stuff are very refined as well. Should as good as real when it's textured.:thumbsup:

peanut
04-27-2005, 06:45 AM
The horse is well modeled alright!

(there would still be stuff here and there but looks frankly good to me)

Paszczak
04-29-2005, 04:20 PM
First of all welcome to my thread and thanks for yours comments!
Now I think, is good moment to say couple words about scene. My goal here is to make something (like overcontrast says) straightforeward but powerful and subtle :D. I want to make huge contrast between master and servant. But they are also friends and this also what you should see in this pic(this is most important thing here).

Paszczak
04-29-2005, 04:23 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1114788214_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1114788214_large.jpg)

armor is done.now I need sword and maybe something here and there.

Paszczak
04-29-2005, 04:25 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1114788315_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1114788315_large.jpg)

armor is done.now I need sword and maybe something here and there.

Diogo
04-29-2005, 04:26 PM
The horse is fantastic!
Good Job! :thumbsup:

grooshka
04-29-2005, 05:14 PM
man! this is crazy! great great modeling. and since you're a pole like me I can say "kossak mialby sie jeszcze od kogo uczyc" :thumbsup:
where were I when you've been posting these delicious updates? :banghead: I'll be watching your progress closely now.
good luck to you, friend!

3dRaven
04-29-2005, 06:04 PM
Pawel great update. Nice details on the armour :thumbsup:

Tranchefeux
04-29-2005, 06:23 PM
Hi, very beautiful to model, the attitude of the character well
considering,go, go, for the continuation

PedramK
04-29-2005, 07:55 PM
Hey dude. Horse looks great. One thing that caught my eye straight away tho, the head of the horse seems a bit too wide. Even for a very heavy and muscular horse. Everything else looks great, good job buddy.

tjnyc
04-29-2005, 08:46 PM
I agree with PedramK, the horse is a tad wide, but everything is excellent so far.


Cheers,

arLutiK
04-29-2005, 09:33 PM
Wow you are a very good modeler one of the best out there, but I have to agree with the horse head comments it is to wide, otherwise incredible work you've been doing

Maxko
04-29-2005, 09:36 PM
Incredible horse's anatomy .. wow .. great man :)

Climax
04-29-2005, 09:37 PM
• No crits....just...:applause: I love the close up! very good Pawell!

Rivan |canibal|
04-29-2005, 09:37 PM
great work man !

congrat
Rivan Henrique

PBlades
04-29-2005, 10:24 PM
Post for cuncurrence with Pedramk, I think the head is a bit too wide even if it were a cart horse.
Great work though

AIR
04-29-2005, 11:26 PM
This is just great modeling man,,incredible..

I dont want comment nothing since there is nothing to comment,,in a critical kinda way,,just
best wishes...keep it up. :thumbsup:

RandomTask
04-29-2005, 11:30 PM
Wow this is some great modeling. :thumbsup: Excelent detail!

Vahle
04-30-2005, 12:49 AM
Very impressive, specially the horse. Great :applause:

naresh
04-30-2005, 07:44 AM
hey budy...nice work..:thumbsup: but one thing i would like to suggest that neck part of the horse little small if you can strach uo little i mean make it little longer...it will be away some...but still cool stuf..all the best
naresh

ilusiondigital
04-30-2005, 07:58 AM
aaaaaaaaaaaa What a horse and what an armor, yes very well done, congratulations

overcontrast
04-30-2005, 10:01 AM
hey nice modleing on the rider!!.. looking really good, but i think he could use more work on the head... but the armours are just too good... keep it up man

hhssuu
04-30-2005, 10:26 AM
the armor is soooo beautyful, it's so neat too, must be the neatest model seen yet in the challenge. I but it'll look so realistic when textured.

Zethriel
05-01-2005, 01:10 PM
I really like your work.The armor is to much classic style for what I think but it works perfectly.Really good job on the horse.

alexichabane
05-01-2005, 01:16 PM
Wow, what a sweet modeling job you've done. You're character's armour looks fantastic, even without any shading. The amount of detail and realism is very impressive. The house looks great as well, I think the shape of his head looks fine, and the armour along its back is a nice touch. Great work. Alexi.

rastko
05-01-2005, 03:17 PM
Awesome horse and armor. Excellent modeling! :thumbsup:

Neeno
05-01-2005, 04:29 PM
your modeling is undeiniable if thats the:thumbsup: word.. excellent job!

Kanga
05-04-2005, 09:47 AM
Very impressive modelling!

The horse looks a little compact (small) even though the sizes are probably correct.

Great stuff!

mv
05-04-2005, 10:28 AM
That is beautiful. Keep going this way !

acromax
05-04-2005, 11:08 AM
First of all verry nice concept. Congrats. I love the horses. I loved your horse model much more. :) Its muscles look awesome. Its pose is noble. Master character look aristocratic ı think. Espacially his look. Great job for the models and the emotions both. Congrats again and good luck for the final render.

Paszczak
05-06-2005, 12:30 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1115335813_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1115335813_large.jpg)

not finished yet but I'm close ;)

Paszczak
05-06-2005, 12:33 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1115335979_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1115335979_large.jpg)

servant needs more tweaks. Next step- zbrushing faces and hand.

mmoir
05-06-2005, 12:43 AM
Hey Pawel,
This is a nice concept :thumbsup:. I really like the horse model , excellent job . :thumbsup:
Hope to see this finished . Good luck

3dRaven
05-06-2005, 01:13 AM
Nice work on the servant Axis :thumbsup: The open hand looks a bit wierd, people hardly ever freely straighten their fingers like that, it strains the muscles quite a bit (have a go), maybe relax the fingers a bit??

Paszczak
05-06-2005, 01:26 AM
good point 3dRaven-thanks.
For now faces and hands are only for orientation. I will make mid res models in max and put them to zb for hires detail and then go back to max for texturing and rendering.

Thanks to all for kind words and critic. I must finish this contest! :)

GabrielW
05-06-2005, 07:46 AM
trzymam kciuki bo wyglada praca bardzo konkretnie

Andreyev
05-06-2005, 08:43 AM
DETAILS ARE AMAZING! Excellent modeling skills!!!

fer3d
05-06-2005, 02:51 PM
You are one of the best modelers I know. IMHO, you succeed in showing the contrast that you seek between M and S. The body language is perfect and even the horses adopt this master and servant attitude. However, I don't see the friendship part so clearly portrayed, and you say it is important to you. What if you pose the left hand of the servant (the one that is apparently unfinished as was noted above) in such a way that it appears that the servant is explaining something to the master? This would say a lot, because it would mean that the servant has opinions, and that the master listens to them. So they would show a friendship relationship. Just an idea...

Great work, man

fer

Paszczak
05-18-2005, 12:15 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1116371714_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1116371714_large.jpg)

This is my final upload :/. Thx for every comment and for watching this entry. I hope that we all met on next challenge (and I'll finish it :)).

Paszczak
05-18-2005, 12:16 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1116371806_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6185/6185_1116371806_large.jpg)

This is my final upload :/. Thx for every comment and for watching this entry. I hope that we all met on next challenge (and I'll finish it :) ).

arkinet
05-18-2005, 12:21 AM
excellent model dude... its pretty sad you cant finish this one, its a big loss for the overall competition:cry: ... oh well, good luck & see you around on the next challenges:buttrock:

3dRaven
05-18-2005, 12:25 AM
It's a damn shame you can't finish friend, this was really shaping up to be an excellent pic.

Maybe you can finish it and post it on the 3d forum later?

Paszczak
05-18-2005, 10:08 AM
arkinet - thx :)
3DRaven - I'll try finish this pic later. dzieki :)

pissaro
05-18-2005, 10:22 AM
Wspaniale, mam nadzieje ze zdazysz

Ludal
05-18-2005, 10:53 AM
Nice modelling man :thumbsup:

mmoir
05-18-2005, 08:19 PM
Hey Pawel,
I like the way the models came out and are put together,:thumbsup: Good job on this , too bad you are not able to finish though.

rattlesnake
05-18-2005, 11:41 PM
Wow man...your work has one of the most amazing modeling here...this is top notch work no doubt...ill be waiting your final shot...:thumbsup::thumbsup::bounce:

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