Master and Servant 3D Entry: Olivier Ponsonnet

[reiv]

Hi there!
I don't even know if I'll have time to complete this challenge cause I got exams during the same period :/ , but let's try to do comthing!
Here is the idea:
A little kid torturing his toys. Ok that's quite simple but I think I can do comething funny with that, with maybe a little gothic girl in her little gothic room with cute, little and hairy toys hiding around, fearing their master.

[bealobo]

Hi!
I like the concept but I don´t think it has to be a gothic girl.
Well that´s my view, of course.
I suggest you to have a look at this sketch (http://www.cgtalk.com/showpost.php?p=2013126&postcount=46)(made by Hym). This is what I mean, a more subtle thing, just a punky kid that likes to disturb and so.
What you yhink? Am I off this thread?
:thumbsup:

[ninox]

Another talented french guy has entered the challenge.
I hope you will have enough time to finish it.
Good luck,
ninox:D

[reiv]

Hi guys,
bealobo: thats's an interesting point of view, doing something a lil less carictural could be a good idea. But in fact I often start with a precise idea in mind and change it during the creation process, so let's see what I'll do :D
Nino: thanks!

reiv.

[abz]

Good idea....
Best of luck for this competition and your exams.
Cheers!!!

[reiv]

Thanks abz!

[reiv]

Here is a little update.
Obviously, nothing's final
Edit : now on page 2

[nix0r]

I've seen your work, I'm going to follow this one for sure :D. cool concept and good luck! :)

[eYadNesS]

Oh, you here!! My fav artist... I searched the pages for you

Can't wait to see your work. I will watch you always :)
I will challenge you too :twisted:

[reiv]

hehe thanks guys :D

[reiv]

here is a little update, and a sketch
Edit: now on page 2

[reiv]

As you can see there are toys/bears hiding under the bed, one is trying to escape by the window, one is completly burst and another is kneeling in front of the mistress ... :)
http://re1v.free.fr/imgup/wip/sketchS.png

[ezc3]

Hi man, nice idea! it looks to me like a looney tunes's Character called Elmyra Duff (http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/wax/329/elmyra_duff_index.html), but... dark!!

hehehehe. i liked it

[reiv]

I love this looney tune's character :).
Mine will be darker, a nasty girl :twisted:

[mv]

Hi there
Great to see another amazing artist entering the challenge :)
But be sure to use the challenge submission system (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/submit_entry.php)for your pictures, so you will not skip any of the required milestones; and it will make easier for people to spot your updates.

Good luck !

[eYadNesS]

Nice head model, I liked how you did modeled her mouth.
Can't wait to see her face textured :D

[Xiti]

Well so far the modelling looks good, and the concept is incredibly hilarious. Though simple has so many possibilities. I like the idea of the kid enslaving the toys, and treating them badly. Seems like you could go tons of different ways with that. Hope to see something good come out of this. I'll keep my eye on you.

[JRBRAZ]

Great Idea. I really love your work.

I´ll keep a eye on it. :thumbsup:

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1111697548_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1111697548_large.jpg)

Her it is:
As you can see there are toys/bears hiding under the bed, one is trying to escape by the window, one is completly burst and another is kneeling in front of the mistress ...

[blur9]

haha, awesome concept, and good modeling so far: nice and clean.

[eYadNesS]

I like the idea of the kid enslaving the toys, and treating them badly.

Its seems different of expression like the other concepts and stories, most of others are toys controlling and mastering the poor kid :scream:

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1111697733_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1111697733_large.jpg)

the eye!

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1111697933_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1111697933_large.jpg)

A little update

[reiv]

Sorry for all this double post but I did not follow the submission protocol :/. Now I do.

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1111698142_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1111698142_large.jpg)

updated!

[MattGyver]

Wow. That is one evil looking kid so far. I'm rather afraid to see the final product, and yet I can't look away. :eek:

[pitiwazou]

this is a good conecpt and a good beginning !

good luck for the continuation ;)

[keetmun]

Hey nice model! She does look quite evil, if that's what you're looking for. Will be looking on!

Cheers
:buttrock:

[gpepper]

Nice start !

And everything is done with your reconizable style !

Next next next !

[coCoKNIght]

Olala! Look who's entered the challenge! I love all your work! Can't wait to see some more :bounce: concept and modeling are good!

[eddieellis]

Scarey but cool.... nice modelling

[alex.h.]

great kidi head you got going there, loking in at this tread from now on. see you and :thumbsup:

[MDN67]

Hello to you Olivier, your concept is very good, very carrier, the modelling of the head seems to be trés indeed left, we already see the caractere of the girl, I am going to follow this, with attention

j'te l'fait en french, ca ira mieux

Salut à toi Olivier, ton concept est trés bon, trés porteur, la modélisation de la tête semble être trés bien partis, on voit déjà le caractere de la fillette, je vais suivre ca avec attention:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[bealobo]

hahha

the sketch works absolutely fine, those teddys around look so ... defenceless.
I can´t wait to see more

[DaddyMack]

Hahaaah, this is great reiv! I dig the concept, and the startand style of the character.
Keep it up!

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1111912216_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1111912216_large.jpg)

An update of the headwith its wire

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1111914050_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1111914050_large.jpg)

Here is a more precise sketch of the girl. The pose of the girl is just for this sketch. The final pose will be like the one on the first sketch.

[Sas.hun]

Nice concept and modeling! :thumbsup:

I can't wait for more.

[ps]

Beautyfull concept and model.:thumbsup:

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1111995787_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1111995787_large.jpg)

Here is an update.I'm not sure about the hairstyle, but the final one style should look like that.

[yznah]

oh i like your way of modeling. it is sharp and tight and it works. i like the design too even if there is maybe a lit bit of tim burton on the dress ;)

[StephD]

bonne chance a toi,
ca va faire mal comme dab :)

[Rawnoise]

Very nice. Mind the hairstyle though...

[DimitrisLiatsos]

This is awesome....subscribed....have fun !

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1112005727_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1112005727_large.jpg)

I've just started texturing the head.

[BlackNull]

I'm really really really loving this reiv, thanks for the great inspiration, it's beautiful!
Aller, bosse fort et fais nous rêver...

[phyle]

looking awesome! probably my favourite so far! keep it up!

[Nathellion]

She looks quite devilish so far. This will be great :)

[collings]

Hi reiv,
Very nice no critics at this time :D
Good Luck :bounce:

[monsitj]

very nice skin shader! and cool concept too! great work!

[mv]

Great developpement so far. This seems like going to be a very stylish and well executed piece. Keep going !

[overcontrast]

wow soo much soo fast.... very nice concept and modleing man... and the texturing looks too good.... keeep going, i'll keep my eyes on this one :thumbsup:

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1112015496_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1112015496_large.jpg)

thanks for your comments guys!

[dmonk]

Sweet texturing! She kinda of gives me the creeps, which is a good thing. Excellent modeling!

Subscribed!

[bealobo]

great updates!

she´s evil! congratulations! she really looks mean.
btw, I love the nose.

[theuni]

Hi,

great modeling here :thumbsup: I like the expression of the girls face...

[graphix19]

I absolutly love the expression and the artsy approach to the girl. Looking good!!

[gpepper]

Great work, I love the face of your characters ! Don't change anything ! :thumbsup:

[ezc3]

wow! man! i´m loving this character! GREAT GREAT WORK! :applause: .
I´m curious aboutyour process to make hairs, may you tell us about it? you have a great result!
congrats!

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1112114991_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1112114991_large.jpg)

Hi guys, thanks for your comments.
Here the girl almost complete.

[Ludal]

wow very very very beatutiful man!

[JayCally]

That is a nice model. I haven't post up any modeling pics yet, gotta get my ass in gear. Keep up the good work.

[mecman]

Your work is amazing! The modeling of this girl is stunning!!:applause:

[Gunilla]

This is just sooo good - even the boots are evil! Wonderful work, love it:thumbsup:

[JRBRAZ]

Really good. I like very much your style.


I just think the last textured version, the girl is looking more like a adult then a kid ...

[smaddl]

great model! beautiful design:thumbsup:

[dmonk]

I love those boots. This is one of my favorite entrires. I think you'll definitely make the cut if you continue at this rate.:applause:


I like how the curls in her hair are mimic'd in her dress.

[Reinier]

hey reiv, Great style and character :) /subscribed

Dont want to be kicked in the nuts by that girl... evil looking spikes.

~ Reinier

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1112124426_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1112124426_large.jpg)

Nasty little girl :D

[StephD]

ca chome pas par ici !! :scream:

very nice, love the design

[miketche]

Excellent idea and work you have here. Am definatly going to watch this one. :buttrock:

[Brent3D]

Wonderful style. Very theatrical look. Wow!

[flyingP]

that is gorgeous :thumbsup:

[bealobo]

hi!

too much make up for a little girl?... I don´t know, anyway it suits perfectly with the style. And it is awesome. This is gonna look amazing, I´m sure.
btw, wich software are you using? and about the dress, is it painted? or procedurals+masks?

[mr wonky]

Lovely. Brilliant style. Not sure about the boots, though. But then again . . . I see how they fit the concept.

[DaddyMack]

Holy s**t reiv!!! Love the girl, and so soon in the piece too. Most inspiring:thumbsup:
Her elbow looks a little wierd in that pos
Keep it up

[GraphicDragon]

Simply Amazing! The details and colors are right on. I'm sure the rest of the room will look just as great.

[enochian]

Love the style and colors keep up the great work

[BlackDidThis]

Subscribing to this.. it's turning out fantastic!


Keep it going;

Black

[Versiden]

this is awesome work, sorry I've missed your thread up until now...

texturing is amazing dude.. are u using any sss for the skin? it looks really good

[monkeysweat]

Nice style...I especially like the toy peeking around the corner.

[overcontrast]

wow soo mcuh is done already... looks awesome man!!... i love that skin shader... very well done... i'll b back to c more amazing stuff....keep up the good works :thumbsup:

[reiv]

Thanks for all your comments guys :thumbsup:

About the softwares used, I use 3dsMax7 for every 3D stuffs and Photoshop for 2D maps.
There's a little SSS for the skin.
The dress texture is a mix of painted+masks+procedurals maps :)
Concerning the shoes they won't be the only rusty/dirty thing in the picture so this will best suit her later.

[MacAndre]

wow! :applause:
amazing work. i love the style of your character... i love the texture and the concept.
the only critic i have: i don´t like her shoes. imo the are to big and heavy. i wish you could change it to small shoes. like a balerina wears...
i don´t want to mess an update. you are my favorite. :buttrock:

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1112192470_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1112192470_large.jpg)

I'm still working on the different shaders and maps of the girl.

[mecman]

Nice update! the textures are great, and you have a very particular style in your modeling....I love it! Keep it up!:thumbsup:

[Tremoside]

Amazing character and artwork! I hope you can finish it! It's simply wonderful! Lots of inspiration is here.

[marc_lauper]

Awesome! Like the expression, the colth... well, actually the style in general :D

[jddog]

Wonderful style and excellent idea.
I found beautiful the figure of the child :applause: and the expression is so great congrtas ! :thumbsup:

:wip:
jdd

[miketche]

Some people have asked you to change the shoes. Don't do that. They are perfect just the way they are. I think they work perfectly. I can see your vision. :buttrock:

[HillbillyKing]

I love this character. I was a huge fan of the video game "Alice" this little girl reminds me of her, except I think the outfit and design of your character is a little stronger. Really looking forward to seeing how this entry turns out

[uwil]

great job on texturing Olivier, keep up.

[lanedaughtry]

Wow.

Beautiful work.

Subscribing and watching...

-L

[ps]

:eek: Great modelling, great texturing, great update.:applause:

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1112296655_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1112296655_large.jpg)

I think she's almost finished.

[BlackNull]

u cease to amaze me mate, I'm speechless...now I'm waiting for the rest of this piece to unfold, great work. no crit at this point.

[pitiwazou]

j'adore, t'es doué y a pas à dire, bien joué ;)

[StephD]

superbe perso vraiment, pleindecaractere et tres original
bravo :thumbsup:

[burnout]

wow, this is totally wicked. i really like this alot. i'll keep an eye on this thread.

[orion 77]

ditto. now let us see some more.

[Brent_3D]

Coming along nicely. I think you should have time to do some interesting stuff. Good luck.

[rolhionjs]

Je la trouve terrible ! Franchement c'est magnifique. Chapo bas m'sieur !
Vite la suite !!! :) :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[smaddl]

great! she is beautifully stylized :applause:

[MDN67]

The little girl is fabulous, a great modeling with some great texture

Du bon boulot, je trouve la petite peste vraiment trés bien réussie:thumbsup:

[Joebount]

The shape of the shoulder is quite weird (les epaules sont trop basses, un peu comme si elle avait le trapeze hyperdeveloppe), but except that, wonderfull work !

[gpepper]

She is really nice ! I mean she's awful but she is well design and well made ! :thumbsup:

[Dodgeas3d]

Oh man that litle girl looks liek painted, not a cg :) but thats very good, u getting rid of unrealistic-3d-solid look... keep up with good work!!!

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1112519237_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1112519237_large.jpg)

This is the piece of furniture you can see on the left of the sketch.

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1112631696_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1112631696_large.jpg)

She's getting darker :D

[BlackNull]

darker indeed, and what a great job! Still a big fan, eagerely waiting for the rest. Au faite, un p'tit mot dans la langue de chez nous pour te feliciter sur un travail de qualité! :applause:

[dmonk]

This little girl freaks me the hell out.

:beer: Good Job!

[mecman]

Amazing, everything is perfect to me....the design, the modeling, the textures....amazing!:bowdown: :bowdown:

[BlackDidThis]

I know how this is going to sound to the most of you.. but that is EXACTLY the kind of daughter I am praying to have!
(Tells alot about the family too doesn't it?)

She looks superb! Just superb!

Black

[Shaykai]

Olivier your model and concept is beautiful! I absolutely love the style of the girl, especially her boots! I can't wait to see this compelted, i'm defeinitly subscribing to this thread!

Shaykai

[Man]

dude..i just love the girl man, really. that's the kind of model and texture i like the most [reminds me of final fantasy IX] and you did it. i really love her outfit and colors, she looks very mean, very manipulative. impressive work man.

caio

[3dRaven]

Reiv great work on the textures...the face looks great :) Another dark entry...freaky

[pitiwazou]

c'est trop beau, j'adore.

je souhaites que tu te casses le stylet, comme ça tu sera hors compete muahuahaaha

nan sérieux c'est magnifique, j'adore !!!

bien joué ;)

[Miezis]

so great! It almost makes me feal sorry that I've gone for the funny side in my project... definately this is a piece theee most emotion in it [at least as far as I've seen this challenge]!

[Aethyrprime]

Very cool character. Nicely done. She looks twisted... Mebe more twisted than Alice.. ;)

[Goul]

I Love this kind of character , reminds me a bit the game American Mcgee Alice ..
Nothing to crits , i'm fan :bowdown:

[nelsig]

Simply subjuged !! if we can say it in english, love the style, the design, the dress, the textures everything !

Vraiment superbe sous tous tous points de vue

I will buy the final book just for you man ! ;)

[goktugg]

really perfect!:)
good and cool idea*concept! very well character design!:thumbsup:
nice color choice,i think. lastly interesting dress and hair style,i like it so much
Good luck:bounce:

[Neliox]

Very good job :bowdown:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1112631696_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1112631696_large.jpg)

She's getting darker :D




Well...i don't think that it's only me saying this ..but i have to say it...This is ART !

P.S : French guys are killing me ...no one can reach u at this....I love her :buttrock:..sniff!

[Poisen]

fantastic piece of work..the design of clothes,figure,textures and concept are really great.

[Deadlyforce]

This is very original, and you've got a great style !
Keep up the good work !
:thumbsup:

[StuntMan]

Outstanding work, you're one of my favorites on this forum :) Please continue, soooo unique !

[Slav]

wow.. i am totally impressed by your 3d work. its outstanding hardcore on the textures and modeling thus far!

[tilite]

i jsut had to apologise to myself for not finding this earlier.

great work.. from now on i will be watching:thumbsup:

[icedeyes]

riev she does look darker and you have given her life... Very nice transition from concept to model... What i wanna say is... I love it....:thumbsup:

[Climax]

• That girl looks scary... she've got something in hands...lol, great work Olivier, I like it! :thumbsup:

[skuby]

It's awsome, I'd change the boots around a bit though. I'm not sure if it's the shape, proportion, color or maybe it's just the style boot but somehow they are weakening the visual/character, the rest is working great. If you look at the image and just hold your hand over the feet/boots you'll see what I mean.

[DaddyMack]

ouch... man that hurts...
I find your work most humbling Olivier
awesome...

[zman]

love it man !
very nice idea and i like the lil' spikes on her shoes :eek:

[Nathan Wright]

Nice work! it has a real painterly quality to it. I can't wait to see the final.

[bealobo]

I had no idea that she was going to be with all this blood... I imagined her more like... with rests of cotton or something like that. It´s turning dark...
interesting, and I love the little sweetie :thumbsup:

[TheFirstAngel]

awesome model. keep it up!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Falfa]

Excellent , j'adore ces pompes !

[alexichabane]

Wow, what a great character, both in design and modeling. I like your concept sketches, and based on the one character you've finihsed I'm sure the final image is going to be amazing. Keep up the ood work! Alexi.

[digones]

wow!!! this is simply awesome, dude!!

j'adore vodre style :P


cheers

[Mandrake]

This is gonna be top work I think.. checked your site, you have good sense for light and composition. Very well so far, I'm gonna watch this one closely, so far no real crit..

and.. f.. the exams
:buttrock:

[jake rupert]

That texturing job of yours is awesome.
Like the style of the girls head very much as well.

Jake

[UK3D]

Hi Olivier, I for one hope you make time to finish this image. The concept is great and the girl model is very strong. Keep going... :applause:

[Blaschke]

It's awesome! great concept. And your texture are very good looking.
Good job! Congratulation!

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1113048124_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1113048124_large.jpg)

A little update...

[WimH]

Damn Nice work. Psycho just how I like it. http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=224025

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1113052888_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1113052888_large.jpg)

And now, the bed!

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1113059894_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1113059894_large.jpg)

the bed textured! Most of the maps are procedural maps.

[Marcus_B]

awesome idea !

[spawk]

:eek: lol these weapons could kill a teddy bears army!!
the wooden baroque bed looks really good and realistic, congrats.
impatient to see what's next ;)...

[jdsb]

amaaaaaaazing organic stylization....all the besthttp://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

[DaddyMack]

I said it before and I'll say it again...Ouch!

Reiv, I think all your character needs is a tiny little hilite in her eyes, to give her expression more depth...oops did I say needs...She already scares the bejeezus outta me...

Great start on the bed, the manchester looks wicked, I think you lost some of the detail on the frame with the current texture tho

Your work both amazes me and creeps meout at the same time:thumbsup:

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1113401225_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1113401225_large.jpg)

Thanks for your comments guys, here is
the bear 01

[jdsb]

pretty twisted that bear, i dig:buttrock:

[jddog]

Impressive work on the girl and everything look really good, congrats :thumbsup:

jdd :wip:

[dmonk]

Cool teddy! The worn bits where the fur has come off is a nice touch and works pretty well and the bed is twisted.
Very impressive work.:applause:

[bealobo]

wow! poor teddy! I´m on his side, and already claiming for revenge. that little nasty girl... grrrr
:twisted:

you´re work is really impressing me.
Can you comment a little on the teddy textures/ shaders? It is looking SO great.
do you make uv maps manually?

:thumbsup: :buttrock:

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1113404398_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1113404398_large.jpg)

Thanks guys for your comments.

About the bear shader:
There's a map for the discplacement channel, another one for bumpmap. These two maps are procedural (mix of noise and cellular), so that I can easily modify the fur appearance for my different bears( particularly concerning the different holes in the fur). I didn't unwarp the UV for this model. In fact in this scene, I only unwarp the nasty girl face and her dress. For the other objects, I try to use the UV basic projections (planar, box...).

[angel]

I love the style, for some reason it reminds me of "Alice in Wonderland" I have no idea why.
Keep up the great work.

[arLutiK]

Cool modeling start, this is teddy is going to look great :thumbsup:

[JRBRAZ]

I like this bear, but I think you could improve the depth between the fur parts and the no fur parts, because everything is looking too flat.

A old bear, you did a time ago, I think is perfect ...

http://www.cgnetworks.com/galleryimages/8730/Little2_medium.jpg

[LouisBrowne]

Just registering on this fine thread.

[DaddyMack]

Hi reiv, well done with the proportions of the bear man, and his facial expression is killer...Maybe it's all the background info in my head but he seems to know he's gonna get f**ked up beyond all repair...

Keep the juicy quality flowing Olivier:thumbsup:

[Kanga]

This is one cute bear!

[Fanfurra]

Hi,

Love the little girl. It reminds me of Toy Story, the evil kid that "transforms" his toys.

Fanfurra

[reiv]

(http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1113595350_large.jpg)Double post, sorry :x

[reiv]

(http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1113595639_large.jpg)Triple :eek: !!

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1113595940_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1113595940_large.jpg)

Thanxs guys! About the fur, it's hard to get fur with mental ray in 3dsmax because all the fur plugins aren't compatible with this rendering engine...
Here is a little more precise sketch of th bottom of the picture. There's two main bears supposed to be the servants. The first one, on the left, don't wanna "play" any more with the girl . The second one, the traitor, is showing her where the first bear is hidden. Then you can wonder which one is the master: the girl or the traitor who seems to control her?

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1113644771_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1113644771_large.jpg)

Here they are!
To make fur, I've used max scanline render. For the final render, I'll composite scanline rendered pic and the mental ray one.

[CryingHorn]

Now that's good one, the idea is great indeed, teddy looks great! I'll be waiting for more

[smaddl]

unfortunate bear. it's a great scene :applause:

[DaddyMack]

Hey Reiv, you made me laugh out loud! Well done with the poor unfortunate, you've nailed it! Maybe he might lean on his cane a bit more, but his fubar factor is absolutely killer:thumbsup: You're talent is consistently shining through on this piece man! Keep it up...

[Infernando]

Your entry is one of my favorites, just awesome! :applause:
Keep posting!

[jdsb]

on man wow:scream::thumbsup::eek:

[Virtuoso]

olivier......I like it,I really like it....:arteest: .......Have you considered Vray.....you can work with hairFX with it.....Vray also has it's own fur solution......Just a thought.....What you have in mind compo wise will work well too.....Like the fur and thickness......the whole piece is very well done,with style and mood.....very nice job,and I'l be looking in for more all the time.....best to you,keep it up strong.....:arteest:

[pierrebixquert]

Super olivier !!!:bounce:
je crois que tu vas etre un finaliste, rien que pour ton idée , elle ai vraiment tres original, beaucoup de chance ...j'adore ces personnages , vraiment!!! chapeau!!!


my master and servant (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=229293&page=1&pp=15)

[Gunilla]

That poor bear, absolutely heartbreaking. This is really impressive work - love every part of it from idea to fulfillment :thumbsup:

[JRBRAZ]

Hi reiv,

The bears with fur is a lot better :bounce:

Now you just could try to change the eyes colors, to give more contrast and power up the expression ... :thumbsup:

[Levitateme]

Sorry, i have no critiques, just i wanted to follow this thread. its the best i have seen so far.

[PBlades]

Wow this is brilliant, really great idea and one of my favourites so far.

[goktugg]

great!:thumbsup:
your bed and bear models are looking awesome*amazing...great modelling.cool details.cool and very well texturing...your project is going so so nice`mate.

[mecman]

Brilliant work Olivier!! the bears look fantastic!!
I have no words to describe how i like your work...
Keep it up mate!

[Neeno]

dude dude how mad are these bears.. i love the blue one with the walking stick so stylised and just so cool man.. quiet cute characters .. great stuff man and the hair looks fantastic can tell you spent a little time on them ! great work!

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1113853966_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1113853966_large.jpg)

Hi,
Thanks for your encouragments!
For now, I've put here several stuffs together and began the lightning. Final viewing angle should look like this with the girl on the right. The next step will be to light and texture the room.

[BlackDidThis]

Still sitting back and watching since there is literally nothing here to crit on.

Your work is amazing and VERY promising. The only thing that I may personally not like is the low poly look at most parts... but hel even THAT looks great!

As I said, nothing to crit... All I can do is compliment it all. the whole thing is so fitting in!


Black

[DaddyMack]

Hi Reiv, Love seeing your consistently powerful efforts:thumbsup:...

I think the angle of that the last image you posted make the whole scene look a little bit flat..ie the camera could be less perpendicular to the back wall.. unless that was your intention?

I really enjoy dropping in here..every time man.. thanks:thumbsup:

[bealobo]

I agree with daddyMack, a little more angle will help the scene not to look flat.
I can´t wait to see the final. I love your style, very inspiring!

[safe05]

Really digging your visual style. I especially like the bears. :) Looking forward to more of this one! :thumbsup:

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1114027613_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1114027613_large.jpg)

Hi there!
About the camera angle my aim is not to make an action scen but something posed that's why the wall is facing to the cam. I'm not happy with what I get here. In fact I'll maybe completely change the room to something bigger really different and as strange as the girl.

[DaddyMack]

doomed!!! poor little guy...
Reiv you're really outdoing yourself here man, the darkness just oozes out of this image:argh:
It has such a classical style...Somehow I agree that the whole scene could compliment the characters and their situation better...but I'm in over my head here man, I haven't really any suggestions at this stage... Good luck

Keep it flowing mate:thumbsup:

[smaddl]

wow!! great design. very beautiful piece :applause: :applause:

[Lemog]

Marvellous treatment for the subject... without comment for the realization... as usually perfect, very impressive. I like a lot the choosen render way... congratulation for your art and best wishes for the challenge, you're so talentuous Olivier... but you know that :thumbsup:

Bonne continuation... je reste là à observer ton travail, vraiment passionnant et intéressant... I take a seat to observe the continuation... :bounce:

[Maxko]

Wow :cry: I love this thread... :thumbsup:

[3dRaven]

Great work....feel sorry for the fuzzy fella.

[Kanga]

Looks like deadly teddybears are in!
I am amazed that the composition has fleshed out since the sketch looked a little empty.
Well done so far :thumbsup: .

[bealobo]

hi!
the room looks strange actually :scream: and the girl is so... hateful... her expression is really well done. Amazing piece, really. It is joy to see the creation process.
I feel the whole scene to be a little dark though, but that can be this monitor.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[snowkiwi]

Very chilling.

[venum]

:bounce:may I congratulate you!
May I say great design, even Tim Burton will be glad to your work!
The design and the modelling of all the character, the clothesn the furniture and the props are really beatifull and full of details.

:applause:I
I was surprised you used a lot of procedural map. Well Done!

The lighting and the ambiance is great. I like the shading. It's an fantastic work!

c'est vraiment jolie ton boulot
Great Job!

[theuni]

Hi,

:applause: now I see the "big" picture :) Great work so far... keep it up :thumbsup:

[gpepper]

Excellent ! Ma seule remarque serait d'avoir peut être un peu plus de profondeur dans l'image...

Marvelous! The only critic that I could tell U is this picture needs more depth... But U're work is great ! Characters, modeling, texturing and rendering... Very Unique...

[BlackDidThis]

Ouch;

This is turning out to be a little bit 'sad' now :sad:



At first I had liked the bots she was wearing, but now they seem to be a bit too much for her and the rest of the scene. But since you say you are going to change things greatly; I guess it is betterI just sit and wait.
I am not too sure, but would it be better if in your next round you have the camera looking at one of the bears, having her tower from the perspective behind? This would sort of display your teddies alot better/ They shrink into the rest of the details in the room. Just a thought since your next room is going to be even bigger.

It all looks very impressive.


Black

[yellowman]

Hi Reiv,

You do a great job!:thumbsup: I love your mood and stlye very much!! May I know what software are you using? I will keep my eye:eek: on this thread. Cheers:bounce: :bounce::bounce:


yellowman

[Nathellion]

Yeah, I agree with Black about the camera angle. The current composition isn't that strong atm imho. But the characters/environment is looking really good. Also, your characters are getting lost amongst the color/lighting atm. I think you should work the lighting in such a way so that the background is more subtle and the characters pop.

Anxiously awaiting the twisted final image :thumbsup:

[Versiden]

wow, that's outstanding reiv! I like how it looks like it was painted.. very cool

[Kraull]

Good idea! The character is so amazing and well defined, it would just enhance the scene to have a room that fit her better. Maybe something with the Tim Burton or old german movie style may do a great job. Anyway, really like what you've done so far!!

[jdsb]

i think its looking simnply incredible but the camera angle a bit too straight:eek::eek::eek:

[authentic]

I had forgotten this thread since the 1st designs of the girl. What a shame ! Really good picture and ambience.
My only crits would be tha the picture is not enough "readable". Maybe because the colors are too near or there is not enough contrast.
Anyway I really like it. :thumbsup:

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1114582984_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1114582984_large.jpg)

Hi!
thanks for your comments guys, here is a new idea backround for the background: she still tortures her bears etc... but now she lives alone in a big and weird manor with floating window, stairs leading to infinity and darkness, chains, huge curtains, strange columns... I think this suits the character better than the previous background. I'll maybe add a big stuff made of pieces of black glass that is commonly used to light rooms in castles with candles(can't find the english word :x ).
Thanks again for your comments guys.

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1114585079_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1114585079_large.jpg)

Here is a rendered version of the previous picture I've just finished.

[StephD]

great background, a lot better in fact:thumbsup:
the composition doesn't work though. the girl is lost in the picture and the ground disturbs the reading.. (j'adore ce style de careaux déformés mais ils faut que ca dirige l'oeil ds une direction sinon tu n'y gagne que de la confusion)

keep going !

[Lemog]

Awesome new idea mate... very good and original, I like that... a real good way :thumbsup:

[authentic]

Your new backgound is much better that the old one. More and more ambience. Very "alice", in a dark way of course.
Good luck for rendering.

[overcontrast]

very good rendering man.. the enveronment is looking really good, exactly what u needed for ur pcyco looking girl.. well i have to agree with Dezz the current composition fades the presence of ur amazing characters. I would suggest you try to focus more on ur character. Thats abt it from me... keep us updates :thumbsup:

[CuneytGuclu]

Good render man maybe some more ambiant light!


Good luck!

[MDN67]

a very great ambiance, a very nice pic, good work

[venum]

:applause::applause::applause::applause:
what a nice work!
Bravo reiv. beau travail. J'adore. La lumiere est belle, le modeling sensationnel, les textures sont magnifiques. J'aimais beaucoup la chambre et la tu refais une composition d'un tres grand gout. Seul reproche, on perd de vu les 2 nounours sur cette composition par rapport a la premiere version, c'est dommage, ils sont plus mis en valeurs.

Congratulation Reiv, Great job, I like it. the lighting is really nice actually, the modeling is vavavoum, the textures are fantastics. I'd like a lot the first bedroom. the new set is great.
But on this set, both of the teddy bears are less visible. there is a feeling, they are not anymore main characters.

:applause::buttrock::D:thumbsup:

[DaddyMack]

OK now I'm scared:argh:...Leaps ahead as far as atmosphere goes Reiv:thumbsup: Love the warped feel to it all, I'd say the camera could still be a bit lower, as if it is from a teddies pov, to add to the power of and fear of your master...are you gonna place a few more teddies in the scene now you have all that space?

[smaddl]

very beautiful and with a great mood image. agree the characters should be more prominent.

[bealobo]

it siuts better yes!
I like the stairs a lot
:thumbsup:

[Maxko]

INCREDIBLE INCREDIBLE... wooow.. holy s.it .. great work.. I am in love with floor :)

[Neeno]

this is , i have to agree with most comments, incredible work!! way to go ! :thumbsup:

[jdsb]

thats literally twisted,brilliant style:thumbsup::eek:

[arLutiK]

Wow

Very amazing work you're doing, I really love your style. Great work Olivier.

Genial ton image.:applause:

[MacAndre]

great styled. :thumbsup:
you have just to work on the lighting. a spot shining on the girl can sperate her more from the background...

[ilusiondigital]

Wow, tetric atmosphere. Is a very good image. Reminder me the McGee´s Alice. Good luck with you final image

[reiv]

Thanks for your comments, I'm now working on the lighting to make the characters, particularly the girl, more prominent. Indeed, now I got a lot of space so I'll add more stuffs around: a dead bear, laying on the floor, completly warped and burst by the girl, weird lamps near the stairs, and maybe some strange shapes floating around.
Tahnks again guys :thumbsup:.

[venum]

:):thumbsup:
that's sound a good idea:wise:.
I can't stand waiting:twisted:.

[mecman]

Oh mate, it´s very, very beautiful....like a dream...I love it!
Maybe it´s too dark, I think you lose the details a bit in such darkness...but it´s just my opinion!
anyway it´s an amazing work!
Keep it up mate!

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1114880162_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1114880162_large.jpg)

Hi, this is a little compositing test with the new lighting of the girl.
For the post effects, there's only two filters type: color balance and noise.

[theuni]

Hi reiv,

nice comp & mood you caught there... maybe there could be some more lights coming from upstairs to give the viewers eye a chance to travel... only my humble opinion :)

[(o)ne]

Yes, the mood it very clear.. :thumbsup:

[Versiden]

I like the atmosphere you're going for.. I agree with ilusiondigital, it reminds me of Alice too..

I prefer the previous comp with the more greener tones tho.. still an excellent piece, and eager to see more from you

[smaddl]

beautiful. great design :thumbsup:

[arLutiK]

Everytime I see it I love it more and more, great work :thumbsup:

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1114943091_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1114943091_large.jpg)

Hi,
Thanks for your comments guys. Concerning the overall tint of the previous picture, I think the final tones will be more green or blue tones ( like the picture posted here) than red/brown.

[venum]

:thumbsup:Reiv!
Only one comment. It's nice!:twisted:

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1114970722_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1114970722_large.jpg)

Children are so cruel, this poor bear didn't have any chance :)

[gpepper]

beurk ! :argh:
Eh ! nice shader of blood !

[DaddyMack]

:cry: NOOooooooooooo

Why do the innocent always suffer so....

[jdsb]

this is really incredible man:eek::eek::eek::scream::argh:

[3dRaven]

Ted really kicked the bucket. Love the enviroment...looks very surreal :thumbsup:

[arLutiK]

Thank god mine are not like that.

Very nice textures, great work:thumbsup:

[reiv]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1115041688_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6155/6155_1115041688_large.jpg)

Hi,
thanks guys :)
This picture is a rendering test with few filters, to show you how the final picture will look like. The two bears will have fur in the final render.
I had memory problems to render higher rez pictures, so if anybody has some tricks to solve memory issues with 3dmax7 and mental ray this could really help me.
Thanks in advance.

[smaddl]

wow wow wow!! amazing :applause: :applause::applause:

[jdsb]

wowzooooeieeeee:argh:http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
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[3dRaven]

Guess you could try rendering to layers and then pasting it together in post. Use similar colored stand ins to generate gi bounces for the characer, Render out the bear and the pillar seperate with a reflection map then mix him in etc...It's tough work but it's jsut a possibility

Maybe the max forum might have some specific tech tips??. Go check there I"m sure they've got a few aces up their sleeves.

..Hmmm or run out and buy some more ram.


Oh yeah and the last render looks great :thumbsup:

[Gunilla]

Looking wonderful!

You could try and render it in sections, sometimes that seems to work.

[bealobo]

Hi Olivier!
I admired your work previously to this challenge, but seing your progress is a pleasure.
How did you get the transparency things (curtains?) in the environment? they look very special.
And well I prefer the environment without the bed, I don´t see how it helps to the story, but it´s me of course.

great, neat, incredible job!

[reiv]

Thanks for your comments and tips, I'll try them.
bealobo : the curtain shader is quite simple there's only one little trick. I use a fallof map in the transparency channel : the surface is less transparent towards perpendicular and the more the surface faces the camera, the more it's transparent. I also use this sort of map in the color channel to make the surface reddish towards perpendicular. Also the specular is bluish and set to anisotropic. Here is a little preview from the material editor:
http://re1v.free.fr/imgup/lilmatCurtain.jpg