Master and Servant 3D Entry: Ronan Rouxel

[rhin0]

Hi everyone,
this is my first post on cgtalk, so very happy about this challenge, just wanna say good luck to everyone, cant wait to see awesome works of everybody!! Ill be posting some sketches soon, when ill find time after work.. cya!

[Demilliac]

Here come a great new challenger !
Hope all the best from you, I'm so hurry to see these sketch !
Rock on mate ! :thumbsup:

[joss3D]

good luck my friend!!
don't forget to sleep during the challenge ;)

[RocketBoy]

Welcome to the Challenge! Can't wait to see what you have in store for us.

[Rhino31]

hey!! thx m8s !! now im so exited bout that, work late yesterday nite for the challenge, i got an idea, im kinda stuck on it even if its not very original...we'll see, anyway, ill be posting somethin tonight or tomorrow.. gotta draw a lil :banghead:
Laterz!

[rhin0]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1111595003_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1111595003_large.jpg)

second sketch, it will be one of those 2 but dont really know yet wich one..

[rhin0]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1111595297_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1111595297_large.jpg)

ok here the first one, same idea but in another situation.. less serious.. the idea is that masters hate when the servant become arrogant or be superior, in this sketch the servant is makin a good move in the chess game..unfortunatly, the master wanna prove that She is the "law" in here and ask him to make another move..

[Deadlyforce]

Mmmmh...and another padawan enters the contest.
And your powers are weak I can feel it !
I shall destroy you...THOU SHALL NOT PASS ! (if I enter the challenge hin hin!)
This challenge is for tough guys you know.:D

Well...hum good luck anyway !:buttrock:

About your sketches : I prefer the tone of the second one but this is too classical I think. The first is more funny (of course).

What side of the force will you choose ?:rolleyes:

[rhin0]

hmmmm! Norman... will u dare subscribe to this challenge or is it too much for you! in the mean time, i completly agree with you, the 2one is very classical but in the same time i really feel like doin somethin like dat so i dont know, ill keep sketchin during this week, but i dont promess a great idea + my drawin skills are not following my mind so its gonna be hard!
neway, thnx for the comments :)

[Deadlyforce]

Interesting.

Your drawing skills don't follow your mind ? This is far better than your mind not following your drawing skills. Besides, this is a 3D challenge so as long as the sketch is close to the final render everything will be ok.

(And you are testing my patience ? you know I could enter that challenge...):deal:

[rhin0]

Ok, ill go for the second one, in the forest, ill focus on this one and maybe change things.. i wont be here for the next week so ill post final sketch and modeling wip when ill be back :)

I just hope ill have enough time to finish it.. :D wellz.. laterz

[DaddyMack]

Hi rhin0, the forest image kicks! compared to the tameness of the other.
It already conveys a real sense of humility in the slave and arrogance in the master...Well done;)

[RocketBoy]

I agree. The Forrest sketch is quite nice; it really does show a lot of feeling and atmosphere. Can't wait to see more.

[rhin0]

:) thx for the comments, i gotta take the plane in few hours but just wanna say that i tought of 2 or 3 things i could add in the drawin, ill update as soon as i can! thx again!

[Deadlyforce]

Fleeing by plane won't be enough to escape my wrath.
You can run but you can't hide.
Animascope will die and I shall conquer the world on its carcass !

Now, I'm dying to see more of your idea !

Cya !:)

[rhin0]

ahha hi norm, finaly in toulouse, feels good, my new workstation seems to kick azz :applause: and god bless apple for makin crazy notebooks, very usefull i must say! once ill be back in paris ill be ready to kick azz! btw comon norman, do the challenge, would be fun. cya! :)

[rhin0]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1112369548_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1112369548_large.jpg)

Ok, here comes the "kinda" final sketch, some little elements may change, maybe proportion of the beast also.. as for the story, here it is:

Japan,1503,There are many wars between the differents dynasties that wanna take the control of the japan,this young girl, Ming,is a very powerfull sumoner, the youngest of a very important family that can use magic to bring ancient demons from darkness in eveil times to help defending their freedom.
War as already begun between two powerfull clans and Ming's family decided to use their power to make sure they will win this important war and aked Ming to bring back to earth a demon,an ancestral warrior demon that used to protect Ming's family in the past. Only Ming can command to this demon and the demon can only answer to his master.. A strange relation between them begun, full of respect but also fear.
Here they are, walkin trough a bamboo forest near Ming's family castle tryin enjoy those little happy moments before the great battle that will lead to life or death.

[dmonk]

A lush bamboo forest would be very impressive. I like the composition in this last picture. Good luck in pulling it off.

BTW: The proportions for the beast look fine to me.
:D

[rhin0]

sorry for the poor quality of the sketch, kinda hard to draw for me :/
of course the BG is a photo, helped me a lot..i couldnt draw with so much details..
Modeling as already begun, ill post stuff soon..

[mireneye]

Looking really good man! Strong story and concept ony crit so far. Not much of a crit but.You should have let them play Shougi "Japanease Chess" Or Go!

Best of luck!

[rhin0]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1112452309_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1112452309_large.jpg)

Ok, here is the master's head, kinda finished, only tweakin now, i just need to make her look more asian.. kinda hard tho! :)
the body is almost finished like the head, only few areas will need to be re-worked.. ill post it later.

[Dodgeas3d]

Wow realy nice head, looks perfect :) shes gonna be beauty! Keep it up.. nice progress!

[joss3D]

good start my friend....want to see more :)

[rhin0]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1112454734_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1112454734_large.jpg)

Ok, here's the body.. as i said b4, there r few areas that really need work: shoulders, breasts, feet.. and a lil bit of tweakin in the head..i dunno but maybe the head is a lil bit big.. or is it just me?
neway.. C&C r more than welcome!! :) later..

[lotaH]

Great, man!!

This post promises a lot! :thumbsup:

[]'s

[rhin0]

thx m8! ill try to do my best! :bounce:

[Deadlyforce]

This is correct. The head is a little too big.
Interesting beginning I must say.
Your monster has only 4 fingers isn't it ? I hope you don't intend to make some Disney stuff here ! :D

Anyway that master of yours is still looking great ! Can't wait the next update !
:bowdown::beer:

[eddieellis]

looking great.. nice work... purt boobies

[rhin0]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1112551351_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1112551351_large.jpg)

Here is the servant\'s head, almost done, i really dont like the mouth shape so i think it will change soon, i like the overall shape, teeth or not gonna be like that, it was just to fill the gap :p
hmm.. lot of work on the body..its gonna be hard! :D well, c&c r a need! :)

[Goul]

Top modeling here , the models looks great so far :)

[rastko]

Great modelling. These models are very very good, only this girl (master) needs to have smaller feets.

Keep up good work! :thumbsup:

[Neeno]

great modeling no crits just nice compliments.. i really have nothing to crit .. looks like you spend a little time on them before posting them so i have nothing to say except great work dude and lets see more my friend :thumbsup:

[Deadlyforce]

Aha ! I have crits ! I have crits !:)

I think that the lips are strange. Too thin maybe. And the creases around the mouth are too sharp. The area at the base of the horn could be refined too.

Despite that little thingies, the beast is really cool. The ears and nose are particularly well done.
The chains seem perfect too. To be honest, your beast reminds me the cyclop in the 7th Sinbad voyage (don't remember the original title). A wise choice.

Cya and don't get burned behind your dual CPU's firepower...:D

[rhin0]

Thanks for all the replies! :) all the crits r right, ill work on those feets, the mouth shape is not good, i knew dat, as for the area near the horn, ill check it! thanx a lot m8s! really helpin :)

[Micro26]

for me minor toutches are needed.
Your modeling is very promising:thumbsup: and like your concept.
Love to see more updates

[rhin0]

Thx micro :) ill post some updates tomorrow!

[Deadlyforce]

Mmmh...you seem a little slow posting updates Mr rhin0...what's going on ? you fear my dark powers ? I hope that little monster of yours will rock when coming back from the Rouxel-Factory ! :buttrock::D

[rhin0]

slow?! man! i have so much things to model i dunno where to star!.. it was supposed to be in a bamboo forest.. it will now look more like a japanese traditional garden so lots of more work to do o_O but dont worry.. ill post some stuff soon.. btw deadly force is gonna be as dead as ur grl in ur sketch :twisted: when the rhino will rise from the deep!!

[Deadlyforce]

Believe me, I'm experiencing time difficulties too...:cry:
Hope you'll find the time to put quickly everything together...:buttrock:

[rhin0]

difficulties huh?? good! :twisted: nah..just kiddin.. hope ull attack the modeling soon.. :)

[Deadlyforce]

Where are the updates ? :cry:

[rhin0]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1112817925_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1112817925_large.jpg)

here's the update of the servant body,kinda happy bout the overall shape.. almost finished! im doin the cloth for the master..body is finished ill post updates soon with the master and some background elements.

[markovicd]

man looking sharp... really sharp! :D i am loving this... big time ! :D great work so far...

but nurbs rule! :D

[rhin0]

heehe, thx for the comment but hey! im from the polygon skoo so.. no nurbs! or only for makin an eye :) thats all! polygon till i die! :p

[Deadlyforce]

Aaaaaah the updates ! and guess what ? the model is not far from perfection. However there is a problem with the pecs (the chest). They're simply too sharp. :wise:

This is a beautiful beast you have here ! :applause:

Cya for new adventures in the marvelous world of cgtalk !

[rhin0]

Hey, thanx norman :) ill post the full body tonight! laterz all!

[joss3D]

very great as usual ;)


don't you want to zbrush it?

[conundrum]

only just came across this entry but its awesome work so far, great modelling. i dont have anythung to crit but im looking forward to seeing how it turns out. good luck

[rhin0]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1112899682_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1112899682_large.jpg)

here is the servant body done, only tweakin now.. still need his his sword and he will be prepared for battle ! :)
more updates soon..

c&c r welcome, thnx.

[mecman]

Nice model Ronan!! I prefer the forest sketch too!
great work!! keep it up and good luck! :thumbsup:

[eddieellis]

great model mate, reminds me of Jack the Giant Slayer

[Aethyrprime]

Very nice work. No crits just get this bad boy finished...!

[DaddyMack]

Wow rhin0, coming along in leaps and bounds:thumbsup:
A most enviable model so far mate, keep it up!

[miketche]

Hey, there are a lot of similarities between your hulking creature and mine. :argh: Although I must admit, yours is a lot better modeled :buttrock: Great!

[rhin0]

Hi all! thx for all the comments, really makes me happy, im almost done with the two characters, now im ready for the background!

miketche (member.php?u=28507): hi! yea i know wat u mean.. i saw like a dozen of entry with exctly the "same" type of characters.. a big one with big muscle and a human more thin.. wellz.. i never said i was goin for originality..lol :shrug:
neway, thx for all the comments m8s!! cya

[gaianix]

hey i think sketch of background is good with more fog.
and about model texture make it complete to talk about it but i think face maybe have some change to look better

[Troof]

hey,
nice modeling of him, i like the tricep..also the concept has got some potential.

[rhin0]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1112919059_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1112919059_large.jpg)

heres both of the characters with the servant's sword.. just to see the overall proportions of 'em.. somethin is wrong wi the grl but cant find wat.. i made the head smaller due to some crits some gave me.. it was right but now i think somethin is still work.. oO neway.. latezzzzz

[banzato]

Great job. :thumbsup:

I prefer the last sketch. The proportion of the characters is good.

Good luck.

[Wandddo]

Hi man! Very nice modelling! Seeing this sword, I remember Final Fantasy VII ( Cloud and your large sword hehehe...):D Keep it up man, I watching up dates... good lucky :thumbsup:
cheers

[Zlatan B.]

Very cool design!:thumbsup: I love your models. Keep up the good work.

But I guess I would prefer to see them in dark foggy forest and her feet are little to big.

my stuff:


http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=223794&page=1&pp=15 (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=223794&page=1&pp=15)

[miketche]

I think your female needs smaller feet.

[Versiden]

wow , great models. The beast guy looks awesome!

[Juha]

really good looking models. good luck

[UK3D]

Its all starting to come together now. look forward to seeing the textures applied. Lovely modeling. :thumbsup:

[d-tox]

Looks great man!

[bdblok]

hi!

great job!

only thing i dont like is the swords blade, i love the handle.
but the blade looks really weird. dont get me wrong, i love the width but the rest was kinda weird :)

keep going!

[joss3D]

I think your female needs smaller feet.

since I know you , I didn't know that you are a hobbit foot fetishist :eek:

lol

nothing to critic from me cause you know my modeling level :shrug:

so waiting for the texture and the backgroud :D

don't you want to zBrush the servant?
the beast seems to be the good ocasion to test this soft, don't you think?

[suk-grigorij]

Very nice. But girl's head looks abit bigger than it should be. Or it's just me. I dunno for sure.

Good luck. Waiting to see more.

[rhin0]

Hey thanx for all the replies guyz!
-i agree with the feets, they definitly need to be smaller,ill fix that, thanks for the notice! :)
-the inspiration for the sword comes from a chinese movie where theres a koren soldier who got a really big sword like this but its true that i looks like the FF, didnt even thought bout that.. :)
-Joss.. yes, it would be nice to zbrush the beast but i dunno if ill have time to learn zbrush to do a good displacement map for it.. if u help me to learn this soft maybe i will! :)
-i dont think the head is to big, i made it smaller already, i even think its to small now.. i dunno..

well, thanks again for all the comments! cya for the next update of background elements.. laterz :)

[alexfalchi]

He looking nice job here:thumbsup: good!!

Alex

[rhin0]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1113431865_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1113431865_large.jpg)

ok, heres a compo test, in the new background..yeah, i know, its not the bamboo forest anymore.. wellz, as u can see, its in a japanese garden now.. still loads of work to do..modeling still not finished, started texturing BG, characters r not rigged yet.. lights is not finished.. im dyin! i feel like im not gettin to the goal, to much stuff to do! wellz c&c r welcome.. laters

[rhin0]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1114013753_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1114013753_large.jpg)

here is the fianl composition, still missing trees, grass on the floor, servant is not textured yet.. updating soon i hope.. c&c r welcome

[maxrey]

Hey! c super bien parti!! la créature est vraiment sympa(pour ne pas dire geniale), ca merite que tu pousses le détail a mort dans la texture ensuite.... Ca me remotive pour continuer mon image. :) bonne continuation !:eek:

[jake rupert]

Very nice compostion!

The gate and the fence of the bridge look much to small though in comparsion to the monk.
Just my 2 cents....

;>) Jake

[Deadlyforce]

Hello Mr Ronan !

This is a powerful nice japanese bridge that you designed here !
The pose of your charcters is quite good, remembers me that stunning Vincent Lagaf stuff of yours...:D

Waiting to see more of the environment !
Keep it up ! :buttrock:

[joss3D]

the compo is very much better


remembers me that stunning Vincent Lagaf stuff of yours...:D

yeah the beast seems to has been inflenced by lagaf, or maybe conchonsky:hmm:

can't wait to see the girl hair :deal:

[3dRaven]

Good thing there are thumbnails on the challenge or I might have missed this one..great composition and nice character designs. Have you though of trying out an evening / sunset type lighting? You could get some subtle light from the lanters then as well.

[rhin0]

Hi, tanks a lot for all the replies guyz, im actually doing hair for the girl..pain in the azz i mut say!:cry: i still need to texture the servant,the gound and make the grass,texture the future trees and plants but gotta model em first.. arrrrghghghgghhhhHhh!!:scream::argh: wellz..updates gonna come soon i hope! laterz!

[jenn-yu]

nice! good try!! i like Japanese feel:) , i think ur final result will very amazing!

[Matt-Bortolino]

Hi Ronan, good solid modelling here. The current scenery is nice, but I think I preferred your earlier forest scene. Trees give a lot of possibility for volumetric lighting & depth, & seem to fit the mystical Shinto-like theme. The FF style big sword was good, so maybe you could bring that back. Another thing- Ming isn't a typically Japanese name ;) You could dig around through the many Shinto deities & rituals & see if that inspires any more ideas...

[mecman]

Well done Ronan!! You´re almost there!! The composition looks great!! The new angle is much better!
Keep it up mate!

[rhin0]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1114898332_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1114898332_large.jpg)

still workin on textures and trees and grass..but here is the scene with the lights: only two lights actually, one point light wich kinda act like a ambiant light, one directional light for the shadows and final gather..i dont think i will change it as i worked on the texures already but who knows.. cya!

[Demilliac]

great !
You have to color your lightning, it's essential imo.
Don't you think the bird is a little big ? what about smaler bird, but many more with nice motion blur to dynamise your picture ?

my 2 cents.
it does not matter in fact, really good work. Keep on my friend, keep on !

[rhin0]

thank you mate! :) ill try that!

[blakbird]

Interesting design. Hideous monster and contrary a calm scene.

Did you intendedly put the hand of monster (and its shadow casted over the girl's face)?

[Adriano-Zanetti]

Bull's eye for me man ! you hit right in my taste, I just love this medieval asian heroic fantasy scene you got there, congrats so far for the great work you're doing!!

Although I love the styl of your servant, amazing character, I really dislike his feet, way too much "dinosaur" type of feet, the ony thing in my opinion that doesn't belong to that scene. I'm not mentionning it only cause it's not my taste, but more because it sorta distracted me from what was happening in your scene. I wasn't wondering what was going on anymore, but why he had such strange feet... with quite a human body and face.... I thought you might wanna hear that.

Good luck with the rest of it !!

pe@ce.

[rhin0]

kuzgunoglu: yea, as the sun is right on the master's face, the servatn just put his hand to "protect" her from too much sun.. its my intention of show ing the "master and servant" fee but in a nicely and soft maner..:)

adriano: i totally understand wat u mean with the feet, well, i dunno if i will change it or not but im glad u like that kinda of asian fantaysy style cuz i do to! :)

well, thx anyway guyz! laterz

[Tremoside]

AHow! I missed your thread... The best point to me on your image is the "troll's" hand over her head. Those shdows on her face...It's very-very sensitive. Just in this small part of the scene i see tons of emotions! The ovearll is also an excellent work, but this part was grab my eyes for first...this is a cool composition! Congratulations!

[rhin0]

wow, thx tremo.. im so happy u feel this sensation because thats exactly wat i wanted ppl to feel..thx a lot mate! :)

[rhin0]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1115287817_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1115287817_large.jpg)

Here is the master, kinda final render, minor tweaks will be added on hair with photoshop in the final image..ill maybe reshap the head a bit cuz ive changed the eye and the nose and it doesnt look like the initial model but we r almost there i think.. c&c r welcome as usual. Laterz!

[joss3D]

je trouve les cheveux un peu plat sur le dessus du crâne.

comme si elle sortait de la douche :D

aller gonfle nous tout ça!!

sinon les texture sont nikel.
et le visage fait plus asiat je trouve, weel done ;)
le nez est plus large, et les yeux plus bridé non?


keep going like this my friend :thumbsup:

[3dRaven]

The materials look nice and clean, the lightings also pretty good. Now that you've got that rapped up I'd work in her expression. It needs a bit more life, give her more emotions. Look at some refrence pics they might help you in getting better results.....she just looks a little bored at the moment

[rhin0]

thx for the replies guyz,

3draven: yeah, i will try some blendshape and see wat emotions i wanna bring to her..

[rhin0]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1115904829_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1115904829_large.jpg)

As i run out of time and experiencin many difficulties as im a noob, i gotta start compositin the whole thing, not happy with many things but dont have time so here is a first compositing test.. hope u will like it. cya soon! :) c&c r welcome in these dark times! the end is closeeeee!! :/

[rhin0]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1116082054_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/6106/6106_1116082054_large.jpg)

here is the final image and the story:

Japan,1503,There are many wars between the differents dynasties that wanna take the control of the japan,this young girl, Yukiko. She is a very powerfull sumoner, the youngest of a very important family that can use magic to bring ancient demons from darkness in evil times to help defending their freedom.
War as already begun between two powerfull clans and Yukiko's family decided to use their power to make sure they will win this important war and they asked Her to bring back to earth a beast,an ancestral warrior demon that used to protect Yukiko's family in the past. Only Yukiko can command to this demon and the demon can only answer to his master.. A strange relation between them begun, full of respect and frienship.
Here they are, walkin trough Yukiko's familly garden,enjoyin these last moments of quiet, waitin for informations about the battle field, waitin for the final battle that will bring them to their fate: life or death.

I wanna thank every single participant of this challenge and everyone one in this forum, everyone in CGtalk, thanks for makin such things possible for cg artists all over the world. Good luck to everyone, and thanks for the support.

special thank to seb,joss,matteo and bast..and everyone who helped me during this challenge..without ur help i would not have finished this.. c u all soon

[Deadlyforce]

Hi Mr Rhin0 !
Finally this piece of artwork is looking quite good !
I didn't have time to drop by as I was very busy on mine but I assume that we will have the occasion to talk about that sooner or later...

Good luck !:thumbsup:

[rhin0]

yea we will! ill come visit u at work some day! would be nice if we can go drink somethin one day..instead of seein each other at work only lol.. cya mate!:) and thanks!

[Deadlyforce]

There is no problem for that...I'm available every day in the week now that the challenge is completed (except the week-end more of the times)...:beer:
It will be an honor (Klingon voice) to have a drink with Animascope flesh and bones ! :D

[DaddyMack]

Hi rhino, congratulations on a great finish mate:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I enjoyed watching this piece evolve over the weeks;)

[3dRaven]

Nice work rhin0. The finished image looks real nice. The characters looks great and stand out really well.

[rhin0]

thx a lot guyz! :)

[Matt-Bortolino]

Good job, & congratulations. Omedetou as the Japanese would say :)

[rhin0]

arigato gozaimasu mb-san!:)

[arkinet]

nice & clean... great job & best wishes on the judging:thumbsup:

[rhin0]

thanks mate, love ur mas 2d entry btw :buttrock: good luck to u too. cya!

[ilusiondigital]

Pretty illustration mate, i wish you all the best

[rhin0]

thx man, good luck to u too!

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