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lulaassassina
03-22-2005, 10:10 PM
Fábio Duarte Martins has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=6063)

Latest Update: Coloring WIP: I have to paint!!!
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1114735864_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1114735864_large.jpg)

I have to paint more.

Rudeone
03-23-2005, 02:08 PM
Hey dude, nice to see you participating, good luck!

Squibbit
03-23-2005, 02:11 PM
yea have fun !

lulaassassina
03-23-2005, 07:51 PM
Rudeone and Squibbit:
Let's see if I'm doing something, this time.
Have fun you too!

Ilikesoup
03-23-2005, 08:16 PM
I hope you do. Missed your stuff in the last challenge.

lulaassassina
03-23-2005, 08:32 PM
Ilikesoup:
I'm feeling so flattered... Thank you very much, friend.

lulaassassina
03-23-2005, 09:27 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1111613244_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1111613244_large.jpg)

Trying to get some ideas. I'm thinking on adults as servants of childs.

NOOB!
03-23-2005, 09:32 PM
what the?? hand in mouth?? lol twisted,i like!

lulaassassina
03-27-2005, 03:13 AM
NOOB!:
:D

I'm with some spare time, now. I'll sketch some more, these next days.

luv.

lulaassassina
03-30-2005, 07:43 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1112211820_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1112211820_large.jpg)

OK, here is my idea:

The black form represents adults, who try to educate the white form, child. It's black it represents fear, opposing to white, pureness, "naiveness".

I want to explore the question that who is servant of who, father-child relationship, society and the individual in development, who brings light or shadow, the spiral of human emotional development.

Sorry for my english.
luv.

Squibbit
03-30-2005, 07:57 PM
it looks like a man holding a bottle :D

and don't apologize for your english when you don't
make any mistakes noticeable by most of the planet :)

lulaassassina
04-05-2005, 01:08 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1112659725_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1112659725_large.jpg)

image getting shape...

lulaassassina
04-05-2005, 01:10 AM
Squibbit:
LOL! It really does! Is my uncounscious trying to tell me something?

lulaassassina
04-14-2005, 11:51 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1113519107_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1113519107_large.jpg)

I think I'm getting to something. I'll stick to the idea of the baby comming out from the caracter's mouth.

I'll post some more ideas, later.

lulaassassina
04-14-2005, 11:58 PM
http://img187.echo.cx/img187/8564/mns041iz.jpg

I've been watching a bunch of baby photos. Babies are really hard to draw, believe me!

I'm also thinking on using the top image baby body for my image. It just needs some more tweaking around the head.

Thank you!
luv

lulaassassina
04-15-2005, 12:51 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1113522682_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1113522682_large.jpg)

This is the Final Sketch. Now, I'm going to clean it up.

Only digital, from now. :D

lulaassassina
04-15-2005, 01:21 AM
My wacom is broken. :surprised

lulaassassina
04-15-2005, 03:36 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1113532615_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1113532615_large.jpg)

Cleaned Line Art.

I think it's better to explain you wat's going on.

The image represents education. The birth is made by the mouth, wich is also simbol of the vagina, as also of the speech, the knowledge.

The scar that he has between his eyes represents the third eye, the chakra of consciousness. The baby will have a Moebius stripe in the same place, representing potential.

The hands, simbol of creation, are crowning both caracters.

Resuming, I'm trying to communicate the idea that who educates is ill, that the crowned fact of having a chil and educating them is normally formated by an obstructed potential, by a cirurgic scar on consciousness.

Is this explanation clear? :surprised

lulaassassina
04-15-2005, 04:20 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1113535204_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1113535204_large.jpg)

Well, enough for tonight. I'm going to get some sleep.

Good night for you!

minduinho
04-15-2005, 04:59 AM
nice and fast start!
well, you're just begining your colors, so i have no crits.
but the draw, it's kinda confuse. looking at it without seen your explanations, it's almost impossible to get the message.

voce entende bem portugues brasileiro?

lulaassassina
04-15-2005, 01:22 PM
minduinho:
Thank you for replying. There are a lot of details missing in the sketch, because it's just a work guide, for me.

E acerca do português brasileiro, claro que entendo, escrito ou falado. Abraço, irmão!

duddlebug
04-15-2005, 01:34 PM
Good luck, Fabio...

Nice start... i like the drawing and colours. And knowing your 'style' i'll be really interested to see how this turns out.

lulaassassina
04-15-2005, 02:18 PM
duddlebug:
Thank you, dear friend! My wacom is broken, and I'm trying to get another one. Hope I'll finish this in time. Thank you for replying, m8!

W-I-L
04-15-2005, 02:24 PM
ths is a really interesting concept, and even more of an intersting take on it with your pic. really do like it... intriging stuff. Your style rocks! We all serve bloody kids nowadays.. can not even bloody touch em without being arrested... They can damage your property, throw stones at you, be abusive to anyone and you can not do shit.. makes me sick!

Squibbit
04-15-2005, 02:24 PM
:surprised





this is not about a longing mungo ?



i feel lost


.

lulaassassina
04-15-2005, 02:36 PM
W!L:
Thank you!
But there is also a question that I am trying to communicate: "Who is the Master and how is the Servant"?

Squibbit:
Sorry for my ignorance, m8, but what does "longing mungo" mean?

W-I-L
04-15-2005, 02:48 PM
I KNOW.. I JUST SAID WHO WAS THE MASTERS..BLOODY KIDS! with there mobile phones and there game systems, and there erm, . . . smallhands... i think i need to go and play some bingo with ethel and winifred to carm me shattered nerves. Old age pensioners discount fridays tonight...

lulaassassina
04-15-2005, 02:49 PM
W!L:
LOLOL! :D

Kraull
04-15-2005, 03:33 PM
The graphic aspect of your work is really attractive and unique. It's definitely the kind of image I would buy and put on a wall in my appartment! Sounds weird regarding my style of painting, but I've studied in graphic art before going to fine art and I still like a lot this style of artwork. Nice stuff! :buttrock:

lulaassassina
04-15-2005, 03:37 PM
Kraull:
My God! I'm so flattered! :blush:
Thank you for your kindness!

minduinho
04-15-2005, 05:47 PM
seguinte cara, eu achei confuso pq se n houvesse uma explicacao, eu nunca saberia do q se tratava.
a sua imagem nao traduz claramente a coisa do mestre e da serventia, por isso q achei confuso. e o maior objetivo eh passar a mensagem com a imagem, e nao com as palavras :thumbsup:

boa sorte (espero q tenha compreendido)
ate logo

dondiego
04-15-2005, 06:25 PM
simple and nice. I like it!
nothing to say about the color yet, well, maybe adding a pale skin tone to the big head guy would be cool. or not, your choice :)

SoniaNotRed
04-15-2005, 06:58 PM
Bem, eu já tinha ouvido falar em "ter um filho pela boca", mas esta é a primeira vez que o vejo!:D

Good concept and very interesting symbology. Do you have a name for it yet? Minduinho has a point - concepts like this one are hard to visually explain, I find that names often help people getting it.

De qualquer forma, está muito louco!

Força e boa sorte!

lulaassassina
04-15-2005, 07:02 PM
minduinho:
Sim, entendo o que queres dizer. No entanto, não sei se quero que seja simples de perceber, tanto que quero prepositadamente colocar a dúvida de quem é o mestre, que é o servo.
Obrigado! :D

Don Diego:
The skintone is pale! But I'm hoping that, with more contrast, by working on the light, that it becomes more evident.
Thank you!

SoniaNotRed:
:) Obrigado!

grafik
04-16-2005, 04:35 PM
Cumé? tá ai um trab fix!

Good work!!! keep up

my MASTER & SLAVE:
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?p=2138465 (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?p=2138465)

lulaassassina
04-16-2005, 08:38 PM
grafik:
Waiting 'till Monday to get a new tablet. Thak you for posting. :D

Adamos
04-19-2005, 01:23 AM
Yo!

Fábio!

you've got the style and you've got the ideas...what else do you need?! :)

That orange and black coloring wip really caught my eye! And your sketches...I think they're funky as hell!

I'll be back...

cheers

lulaassassina
04-19-2005, 01:50 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1113871810_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1113871810_large.jpg)

This is going slowly. Hope that I get this ready in time.

luv

lulaassassina
04-19-2005, 01:52 AM
Adamos:
Thank you! I really love your pen shading, friend! Thank you again for your kind words! You're in my favourites list! :D

lulaassassina
04-19-2005, 02:35 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1113874501_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1113874501_large.jpg)

I'm using the outlines, I think that it mantains my first expression.

So, I'm correcting the Line Art, now.

luv.

lulaassassina
04-19-2005, 09:55 PM
I'm afraid to paint light. :D

I hope I'll post some more work, later on, with light shading.
Thank you for watching this.

luv.

kaparo
04-19-2005, 11:36 PM
Hi Fabio. I havent seen your work. Really dramatic, very graphic! I like the solid comic lines. It gives strenght to the image. Good luck! Keep going!

JimmiMak
04-19-2005, 11:51 PM
what on earth?!... Not only do I not know what the hell is going on here... but I'm even more baffled by the fact that I can't stop visiting this thread:shrug:...

Man... I have read your concept explanation about Nine'Times!... And I still don't freakin get it lol... perhaps I'm just rather dense:bounce:

I love the composition, colour, style and feel of this entry.. and couldn't offer a crit if I tried!!!.. This is what I like to call "a stealth horse"... you know... the kind that just bloody teleports to the finish line and beats the ass offa everyone else:eek: hehe..

Gunna enjoy seeing this develop..

Keep goin!
Jimmi:thumbsup:

xric7
04-20-2005, 09:36 AM
coooooooooooool
i love something like this....:buttrock:


my master and servant 2d
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=227677 (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=227677)

lulaassassina
04-21-2005, 09:31 PM
I'm without a connection at home. I'll try to post developments of this image as soon as possible.

kaparo:
Thank you for your kindness. :)

JimmiMak:
OK, then, I'll try to explain this better.
The first symbol is birth. Means creation, the power to materialize a new being, a new reality. The birth is comming from the mouth with multiple meanings. Mouth represents the vagina, and verbalisation. It's my symbol of education. The vagina has the son, and this is educated by the head, by the word. And the verbalisation means the communication of ideas, values.
The scar in the father's forehead means an obstructed 6th chakra, corresponding to consciousness. And the scar means intervention, human one.
The baby will have, in the same place, a Moebius stripe, the symbol of infinity, representing full potential of consciousness.
The hands mean creation. Or creativity. And they are crowning both, meaning the the creative power, the Universe, is crowning a birth, materializing it.
Simple? :D

xric7:
:blush: Thank you.

JimmiMak
04-21-2005, 09:38 PM
I think my brain just fell out :surprised lol

lulaassassina
04-21-2005, 09:40 PM
JimmiMak:
LOL. :D
Good to know! :thumbsup:

Squibbit
04-21-2005, 09:46 PM
Sorry for my ignorance, m8, but what does "longing mungo" mean?

i dunno , a mungo that longs for sumthin ?

lulaassassina
04-21-2005, 09:47 PM
Squibbit:
And what's a mungo? :curious:

Squibbit
04-21-2005, 09:55 PM
u post difficult questions my friend ...

http://www.phinfo.com/galery-images/tierportraits/mungo.jpg

i think it eats snakes

Slav
04-22-2005, 07:01 AM
i am not sure i understand it not to mention an explination behind why i like it... but its damn good. now what do you have instore for the backdrop?

lulaassassina
04-23-2005, 03:44 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1114224265_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1114224265_large.jpg)

some shades going on.

lulaassassina
04-23-2005, 03:55 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1114224912_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1114224912_large.jpg)

Will I get this done?

lulaassassina
04-23-2005, 03:59 AM
Squibbit:
I'm allways learning... :D

Slav:
Thank you! About the backdrop, I have no idea. But what do you believe that it's confusing in this image?

Thank you very, very much. :)
luv.

lulaassassina
04-25-2005, 10:44 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1114465490_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1114465490_large.jpg)

pray for me. :P
luv

SoniaNotRed
04-27-2005, 12:49 AM
You didn't have to worry about doing the shading - it's looking pretty good! :thumbsup:

Keep it up!

lulaassassina
04-27-2005, 02:00 AM
SoniaNotRed:
:) Thank you.

lulaassassina
04-27-2005, 02:41 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1114609287_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1114609287_large.jpg)

Face shading is almost done. Moving to other body parts.

luv

levent
04-27-2005, 04:46 PM
woooow cool man
wery nice:thumbsup:

lulaassassina
04-27-2005, 07:23 PM
levent:
Thank you! :)

lulaassassina
04-29-2005, 01:51 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1114735864_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/6063/6063_1114735864_large.jpg)

I have to paint more.

punklover
04-29-2005, 01:57 AM
that's a strange concept ,very original ,keep it:thumbsup:

lulaassassina
04-29-2005, 03:52 AM
punklover:
Thank you, friend!

lulaassassina
04-30-2005, 06:04 PM
There is something about the face shading that it's not convincing me. I'm getting a bit frustrated with this because I don't have much time and I haven't had the "Eureka" thing in my head that pumped up my work stamina.

Hope this will pass soon.

Thank you
luv.

SoniaNotRed
05-02-2005, 03:37 PM
Maybe you should shade that space between the nose and his right eye upper lid some more? :shrug:
Try work on some other part of the pic to get your mind off it - by the time you get back, you'll probably know what to do. Or you can flip the image around to help you see what's wrong.

lulaassassina
05-05-2005, 09:38 PM
SoniaNotRed:
I'm thinking on recoloring this pic. Just getting some corage to do so. :)

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