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simovici
03-22-2005, 01:43 PM
Simovici Florian has entered the Master and Servant 3D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=5911)

Latest Update: Final Image: final image
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1116429581_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1116429581_large.jpg)

This my final image.

I don't know I succeded to show the scene as it was in my head; the dark future when the androids became the masters after a long bloody war, between them and humans.

simovici
03-23-2005, 04:47 AM
Hello again to everybody and it's nice to meet you again in a need contest.

Good luck

simovici
03-24-2005, 05:53 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1111690388_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1111690388_large.jpg)

Hello everybody.
This is my first idea. I imagined a future when androids became more powerful than human race. Now the androids have humans as servants.

simovici
03-24-2005, 06:16 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1111691706_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1111691706_large.jpg)

This is a basic picture of a master and servant. One of these two humans will be replaced by a robot (android).

simovici
03-25-2005, 06:55 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1111780524_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1111780524_large.jpg)

This is my ship. I still have a lot of work but it must fly. :)

BlackDidThis
03-25-2005, 07:36 PM
I can get where you are gettnig to... but I am not too sure about the manner you are depicting the result as in your presketch image set.

Would there not be another way to impose the 'servent'ness of the human race other than the pose you had in mind? The general era it gives is a bully'ing, or a conquering/overpowering or infact diminifying.
I don't know if you had a mind to make the human be a simple and useless step for the androids to just step onto while mounting on the aircraft or not...

But I think it could be to your benefit to concider an angle of aprouch to were we would be really unmistakebly servants.
Like for example take the modern day: Our machines are servents to us (though my computer would strongly disagree) and are sort of obligated to do duties that are SO irrelevent to a machines own needs. They do things that are basicaly for human comforts.
Can you see where I am getting at? So if you just invert the situation.. it might give you some more idea's

I liked you ship so far.. and I would not want you to restart anything there. But at an early stage it would be a better idea to plan up your steps you are going to be taking.

Keep them coming.

Black

Edit; A record list of grammer/spelling errors.. Few were fixed

orion 77
03-25-2005, 08:39 PM
hi

is your concept based on a martial arts fight with the two chracters fighting over the jet fighter?

simovici
03-26-2005, 04:52 AM
I am every sorry for my skils in drawing (2D).I can draw a model I see, but it's very hard for me to draw the models and scenes I have in my mind. SO:

@ orion 77 - my concept is not based on a mrtial arts fight

@ BlackDidThis - Like you said, today, the machine are under control, under human control. So imagined the situation when robots took the human place. And my scene is trying to show this situation. There is a battlee starship and the android (the pilot and also the master) is trying to climb into the starship. As the starship is too high for the robot (the ship is in the air), the robots need his servant to get into his ship.In the scene I will use only a side of the starship, I need to get closer to the androind, in order to show his importance.

!0x for replys.

BlackDidThis
03-26-2005, 05:28 AM
There is nothing to be sorry about.

As far as I read through it... the challanges are meant for us to learn aswel. And infact we are encouraged to help out.
Now unfortunately preparing a decent 2D sketch is going to play an important role on the judging period.. I would be happy to offer my assitance on it. I may not be the MOST capable in 2D, but I believe I would be able to help point out things.



So I guessed right? Well you see Simovici, thats a problem actually. The fact that I had to GUESS right. do you get my point?

The particular scene you chose to depict, sort of fails to have the servent image in the minds of all unless they read through the discription you shall provide. That was sort of why I had offered you to think in the lines of 'obviouse' captures of serving the androids.
But I understand that you had an idea and would really like to stick to it. What say you take a few steps back and relook at the scene? Sort of replay the period you just described.. would there be another moment or split-second that of which the event would be more discriptive? Another angle prehaps?

Because in the way it is, even if you were a great master in drawing.. and an even better modeler. You would have people ask the exact same question as Orion 77 asked just now. This is the part you are going to have to be a dear bit more creative. Like give the android a sort of disabitilty that prevents it to be capable to reach the craft (But again an unmistakable one). For example his leg being far more shorter than the torso. Or something else... Or like try to have the human equiped to assist the droid on the ship.. some sort of attached flat backpack or a lease.. or a something. A sort of evidence that serving is what he always does. And it would be a good practice to supply this in the early sketches.

I am so sorry for crowding up your thread like this. But what I am trying to get at is to advise convincingness. There is a very thin line between fantasy and reality. You have to depict something from the dream-world so accordingly that people could look at it and say "Hey that can actually work!" (This last part was from bits of something that Boris Valejio had said)

I am SURE you are going to come up with a great image in the end because the idea is very good. And I am serious about helping you out on what you may want to watch out for in drawing it if you want (Up to a limit though.. I think outside help beyond advices are not allowed).

simovici
03-26-2005, 06:07 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1111864021_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1111864021_large.jpg)

the beginning of the MASTER.

simovici
03-27-2005, 07:45 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1111956329_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1111956329_large.jpg)

The master comes to reality.

simovici
03-28-2005, 05:38 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1112035130_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1112035130_large.jpg)

The new body of my android.

simovici
03-28-2005, 05:45 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1112035531_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1112035531_large.jpg)

I start modeling the android's hand but it was very difficult to find a hand that matches to the body I imagined.

simovici
03-28-2005, 06:05 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1112036746_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1112036746_large.jpg)

update

simovici
04-02-2005, 02:57 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1112457435_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1112457435_large.jpg)

update

simovici
04-02-2005, 02:58 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1112457519_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1112457519_large.jpg)

update

simovici
04-02-2005, 03:00 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1112457629_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1112457629_large.jpg)

update

simovici
04-02-2005, 03:01 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1112457701_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1112457701_large.jpg)

update

simovici
04-02-2005, 03:04 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1112457843_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1112457843_large.jpg)

update

simovici
04-02-2005, 03:06 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1112458014_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1112458014_large.jpg)

update

el-newty
04-05-2005, 09:40 PM
hi,
this is nice :)

I'll keep my eyes on you ;)

good luck!

simovici
04-13-2005, 04:42 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1113367376_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1113367376_large.jpg)

I finally start modelling my human's head.

teapoter
04-13-2005, 06:50 AM
Interesting i am glad to see yourwork hope to see you next step

simovici
04-13-2005, 03:45 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1113407133_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1113407133_large.jpg)

update

simovici
04-14-2005, 07:39 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1113507568_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1113507568_large.jpg)

update.
now I am working to the human's ear.

simovici
04-16-2005, 09:35 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1113687356_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1113687356_large.jpg)

update

simovici
04-17-2005, 07:29 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1113722960_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1113722960_large.jpg)

update

simovici
04-17-2005, 01:38 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1113745080_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1113745080_large.jpg)

update human body

simovici
04-17-2005, 03:16 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1113750988_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1113750988_large.jpg)

update

simovici
04-23-2005, 11:03 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1114254191_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1114254191_large.jpg)

I started to put some txture on my models.

simovici
04-23-2005, 04:21 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1114273303_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1114273303_large.jpg)

update

simovici
04-23-2005, 04:26 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1114273588_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1114273588_large.jpg)

This is the android's ship but it's not finished. Updates soon.

simovici
04-23-2005, 04:56 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1114275367_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1114275367_large.jpg)

update

simovici
04-23-2005, 05:54 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1114278864_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1114278864_large.jpg)

I also start modeling the building from the scene, some kind of airport of the androids.

simovici
04-23-2005, 06:31 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1114281080_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1114281080_large.jpg)

update to the scene

simovici
04-24-2005, 08:55 AM
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update of the scene

simovici
04-25-2005, 04:45 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1114404324_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1114404324_large.jpg)

I pu some lights in the scene but it's not enough. I had to add more.

simovici
05-04-2005, 04:42 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1115181752_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1115181752_large.jpg)

update

simovici
05-05-2005, 04:38 AM
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update

simovici
05-05-2005, 04:12 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1115309558_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1115309558_large.jpg)

I finally started to add some texture. Anyway, my scene will have a lot of grey and metalic objects.
I also have to put some lights in the scene.

simovici
05-06-2005, 04:39 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1115354393_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1115354393_large.jpg)

I put some glow in the smoke of those two ships. Bu it's still missing something.:)

simovici
05-06-2005, 07:08 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1115406479_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1115406479_large.jpg)

some updates to the legs of the android. I still have many things to add to his legs.

simovici
05-07-2005, 11:49 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1115466592_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1115466592_large.jpg)

Me again. I made the image smaller because my pc is will die. I still have some idea for this scene. I think I am going to model a time portala somewehere in the background.

simovici
05-12-2005, 06:55 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1115924158_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1115924158_large.jpg)

I added some lights in the scene. I have to put some stars on the dark sky. But I believe I will add the stars after the final rendering.

simovici
05-16-2005, 04:57 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1116262625_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1116262625_large.jpg)

This is my first render.

simovici
05-17-2005, 04:39 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1116304747_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1116304747_large.jpg)

This may second render, but I still have to correct something. I hane no time but I have to do it.

good luck to everybody

simovici
05-17-2005, 09:48 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1116366490_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1116366490_large.jpg)

This is my final render after all.

simovici
05-17-2005, 09:56 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1116366983_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1116366983_large.jpg)

I added some effect but more will come. I wil be a bloody sky.

simovici
05-17-2005, 10:06 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1116367605_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1116367605_large.jpg)

More effects into the sky. I believe it's enough red in the sky.

simovici
05-18-2005, 03:19 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1116429581_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5911/5911_1116429581_large.jpg)

This my final image.

I don't know I succeded to show the scene as it was in my head; the dark future when the androids became the masters after a long bloody war, between them and humans.

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