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03-22-2005, 12:21 PM
Aignel Guy-Joseph has entered the Master and Servant 3D.
Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=5882)
Latest Update: Texturing: King's Head Final Texturing
Hi there !
Here is the final texturing for the head of the fake king... and a tiny test of hair cut...
Comments an crits are welcomed !
Oh god ! I'm late, I've got to finish the body of the king now...
03-22-2005, 12:34 PM
Bonne Chance à toi :)
Good Luck :thumbsup:
03-22-2005, 12:38 PM
Youhou ! A first post...:)
Thank you Elendil , I'll hope you gonna participate to this challenge too ! :thumbsup:
03-22-2005, 12:44 PM
yes, good luck ;)
03-22-2005, 12:44 PM
Good Luck Mr. Waka ! Aller Waka ! Aller Waka ! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
03-22-2005, 12:45 PM
I'm nto the first to answer you... but you know... I'm a bit old... I don't walk very quickly...:scream: but I'm here anyway... and I support you mate, no prob... good luck... and go go go :beer:
03-22-2005, 01:11 PM
Thank you dudes ! I gonna try to do the best I can !
Allez hop, tous au boulot !:thumbsup:
good luck Mr Wakka :thumbsup:
i wait to see ur idae ...
03-22-2005, 02:34 PM
Bonne chance !!
Y'a de la compétition ici .... tant mieux on va en prendre plein les yeux :)
03-22-2005, 03:43 PM
Lot of thanks for your support guys ! :thumbsup:
Glim >> I wait to see my idea too :) , I hope not too long...:D
Dravenfr >> Y'a de la compétition, c'est clair... Ca commence à devenir bien intéressant tout ça ! There's a big challenge for sure. It's becoming very interresting !
I'm sure we gonna have lot of fun challenging !:bounce:
C'est l'abu quand meme que des p'tit français qui viennent parler en francais dans un forum PAS-francais.
Hum, ca flood la :)
Bon, tu vas nous faire quoi la ?
(Excusez moi, je suis une bille en anglais :))
03-23-2005, 01:34 PM
03-23-2005, 01:57 PM
Thank you very much for your support ! :bounce: I'm now working on the idea and I hope gonna publish a first script and few roughs before the end of the week !
Go, go... I have to work now ! :)
03-23-2005, 04:48 PM
Thanks Noir and Bouledpue (with the "Chti" accent !:)) for your support ! :buttrock:
"Oui, c'est clair, c'est l'abus de parler Français dans un forum NON-français"... Oups sorry... It was not intentional...:)
Je vais faire quoi ? la réponse au prochain épisode (qui arrivera rapidement je l'espère...) !!!:thumbsup:
What I gonna do ? The Answer to the next episode (who gonna be in next few days I hope !)
Ralala, j'me creuse la tête, y'a pleins d'idées, maintenant il m'en faut une bonne ! :bounce:
03-24-2005, 07:16 PM
Let's rock that contest Mr Waka :buttrock:
woo woo woo :thumbsup:
03-24-2005, 07:47 PM
Hey ! Who are you ! What are you doig here ? I don't know you ??? get out of there... :scream:
I'm kidding you of course.... Thank you very much my dear friend ! :thumbsup:
I gonna try to do the best I can ! :bounce:
So, I'm going to write the script this night... after that serious work gonna start !:)
03-24-2005, 10:58 PM
Here is the temporary title of my picture for this challenge ! The title is the concept and will be incorporated in the final picture.
I'm just going to explain the story in few lines before doing and uploading a final script.
::: THE STORY :::
"Le morceau de roi" :Explaining the title for non-french people : It's a french title that mean literally : "The king piece of food", witch means a delicious and noble piece of food !
Why this title : This is the name of the restaurant I gonna make in my picture. So the title gonna be on the sign of the restaurant into the picture.
The comp : The picture gonna be divided into 3 parts as as in a comics strip.
On the top: The surface, the city, the restaurant.
On the bottom : The underground, with first room and a second little one.
First script : It's a rainy dark night, only few and pointed lights are lighting this "gloomy" and sticky athmosphere. The glaucous city seems to be quite but to quite so scary, one may see in the background, big dark clouds, and a mix of crane stylised building, cross and craves. In front of a stange restaurant (an old russian/gothic building disguised into a classy 30's parisian restaurant) named "Le morceau de Roi" (in english : "The king piece of food"), a Famous, rich and extravagant character is going out of his limo (a sort "louis XIV" limo, totally anachronistic vehicule, a tuned limo ;-), he has the look of ridiculous but proud king, with make up and lots of manners. Tiny and ugly servants (sort of frankenstein characters, scarified, made of human pieces and stylised because of there function), are helping that charcater going out of his limo. One is holding an umbrella in order to protect this guest of mark of rain, an other one is clearing the way during one more is pointing out the entrance of the restaurant to the character... and more...
Near the entrance of the restaurant, a groom, dry, strange red almond eyes, with an hard and nasty face, is opening the door.
Into the underground, a dark shadowed evil is eating marvelous food, but human meat, king meat.. human membres are hung to walls, corpses are on the floor, and in a corner a big masters and king crowns pile. Near that room, an other little room witch is the evil kitchen were servants are cooking human meat.
::: END :::
Explaination ! This is why I choose that ambivalent title : "Le morceau de Roi" (The king piece of food), because of the trap made by the real master, not that ridiculous faked king on the surface, but the other one, the evil in his cave (the underground of the restaurant, the restaurant witch is just a cover in order to attract his preys)... The trap is explained in the title ! ;-)
::: Why ? :::
Servant and master relationships ! Who's the real master ? Whose master servants are serving ? Masters eating masters ? Master May be a servant too ? Thus, I wanna play on the inversion of statues and roles into a strange dark and just a little bloody picture ! ;-)
::: Artistic :::
Semi-realistic picture, very contrasted into lighting, with bright areas and very dark areas. Very desaturate picture with just few choosed colors, like red for the underground. I wanna have stylised character too, with hard edges and marked faces, trash comics characters types, very characteristics people. With the 3 parts of the comp' I wanna make a real story as in a comics but without any squares... Floor and wall are separating différent rooms which compose the picture !
::: Technical :::
Using Maya for 3D part, Photoshop for textures and post FX, compositing and final colors.
Making the scene into 3 scenes (one scene for one room), render into passes (shadows, lights, specular... etc) and with layers too. Than composited in photoshop !
That's all for the moment !
03-24-2005, 11:11 PM
This is the first rough layout, in order to explain the different parts of my picture and the frame !
03-24-2005, 11:18 PM
hey 'golden-rectangle'! a good start to any compostion.
03-25-2005, 12:07 AM
Here is the first sketch for my challenge, the first character I may see clearly in my brain ! This is the Groom at the entrance of the "le morceau de roi" restaurant !
Other sketchs and rough layout gonna come !
03-25-2005, 12:31 AM
nothing more... :)
a nice concept for ur picture Mr Wakka :thumbsup:
par contre l'idée des 3 images je sais pas trop si ca correspond à ce qu'on attend pour ce genre de challenge, généralement il n'y qu'une image ... enfin j'ai peut etre pas tous compris ... peut etre que ton idée est de faire comme si on regardais un décors en coupe ... ;-)
03-25-2005, 12:52 AM
Yes, of course, c'est ça ! :thumbsup: the idea, is that the camera is shooting the topground, the street and the restaurant and at the same time, the underground, the cave of the restaurant, the separation between the differents roomq are the wall and the floor... As a comics but without any square !... it's just the set that makes squares and so separation... but you may read it as a comics, even if each action in square are différent, you know, it's not a comics story with differents shots !...
Glad to see you like the concept ! :) et puis tu sais j'aime bien faire des chose qu'on attend pas ! :bounce:
03-25-2005, 12:58 AM
Here is an other servant speed sketch test... I try to found the good idea in order to make a style to decline it to deferent servants !
03-25-2005, 01:47 AM
Ok, now, it's the last sketch I post for this week ! And this is the famous character, the king that gonna have a sad destiny ! :-)
I'm waiting your comments ! Now I'm going In Week-end... I promise I gonna draw more and better for sure, but next week ! See ya !
03-25-2005, 07:00 AM
Well done mate.. good choice of story... a king masterpiece... it's original and with what I know of your art, I imagine easily the result... I'm waiting impatiently the first polygons... good way Mister Waka :bounce: et surtout bon courage...
03-25-2005, 07:33 AM
Not usual setup here ! the concept is very interresting. I rather see it in 3D ! Gogogogo !:bounce: :bounce:
ok i understand all now, ur idea is realy good and original :arteest::arteest:
03-25-2005, 08:56 AM
As always, an original and very artistic concept.
I clearly see the Waka touch in it.
I can't wait to see the firsts full scene artwork :thumbsup:
03-25-2005, 09:11 AM
Le concept est super intéressant et je suis curieux de voir les premières images ...
Allez la suite :)
Tes sketh sont bien sympa aussi ;)
PS : Ton avatar est excellent ...
This concept is really good :)
Next ! :bounce:
03-25-2005, 09:52 AM
Thank you, all of you, men ! I'm glad to see you like the idea... I gonna try to do the best I can with that idea to make it CG ! :)
Elendil >> Nice to see you like the concept !... Merci pour les roughs, mais franchement c'est pas terrible, probablement les idées que ça traduit, mais la technique !...:thumbsup:
Bien sur que mon avatar est excellent, puisque c'est wam posant dans mon jardin ! :D
Of course my avatar is fantastic, it's me posing in my garden !... No, I'm kidding you, HURRAY François Corbier, a famous frecn singer.... hahaha.... :applause:
Lemog >> Thank you ! I'm waiting for the first polygon too. But I wanna have a big pre-production in order to found the good way and to have a high workflow in CG !
DjinnShadows >> Thank Dude, Happy you like the idea... Of course the waka touch, I hope so ! (I cannot do something more... so...) :thumbsup:
Glim, Scooty >> Glad to see you like the concept and found it original !
i like ur character design, and a good search like this can really help u for the modeling
i wait to see ur first poly :bounce:
03-30-2005, 05:55 PM
It seem's to be a good concept, isnt'it? A little bit fuzzy for the moment but I'm sure that the artist has a good vision of his stuff... j'ai hate de voir ce que ça va donner but there's a lot of work to do =)
Nice Rough; I like your Waka Style :thumbsup:
03-30-2005, 07:43 PM
Ben oui, toujours un peu fuzzy quoi ! :scream: ... J'ai aussi hâte de voir ce que ça va donner... Mais j'ai en effet une bonne idée de ce que ça peut être !... dès demain le rough def de l'image finale !
Tomorrow the final rough layout of the potentialy finished picture !:bounce: And much more character design ! Then my first poly, cause it is time now !
Thank you dude ! I appreciate your support !
Cheers ! :thumbsup:
03-31-2005, 05:39 AM
Vivement demain alors... allez on se motive... hop hop hop... :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: and don't forget... make us dream with yout talent :thumbsup:
03-31-2005, 07:36 PM
The final rough (china ink made) of my "master and servant" scene.
The interraction of the topground and the underground gonna be better in the final scene, not so cut. The cave gonna appear the cave of the restaurant.
I cannot see clearly the real Evil Master so I haven't drawn him. I wanna In shadows one, One with a very big stomac, quasi a stomac ! I want that spectators may imagine there own monster ! But I'm still looking for a nice design during I'm modelling the other characters !
Rough Caption :
1- The fake king that gonna be eat by the monster !
2- The servants ! One type of servant (sort of frankenstein/zombie servant), then decline into multiples servants)
3- The "majordome", groom of the restaurant, with very dark red evil eyes !
4- The real master, Fat, eating kings ! Tatooed I think... Into the dark of his cave.
That's all for the moment ! First modeling will come : The king at the surface, other character design and an organisation diagram.
The set and the limo gonna be more stylised ! :-)
Cheers ! ;-)
03-31-2005, 07:51 PM
Hey Mr.Waka, love your idea (made me laugh) good luck with the next steps
Look forward to seeing your 3d setup. Nice idea.
04-01-2005, 07:22 AM
Lemog >> Ouaip, hop, hop, hop, on se motive !... You're right man !!! But the first poly is always difficult for me... So I take my time (not too many) to rough and design all the stuffs !... Arrrgg... :scream: FIRST POLY NOW !!... I go, I go... :)
DaddyMack >> Thank you ! Glad to see you like the idea, and thank you for the luck too :thumbsup: ... I hope gonna do a "humour noir" picture !...
Brent_3D >> Thank you man... :thumbsup: 3D is comming !... :bounce: :bounce:
Cheers all ! :buttrock:
04-01-2005, 07:41 AM
Your goal is very interesting... really... I like that Mr Waka :thumbsup:
04-01-2005, 09:17 AM
Here it is the rough mod helpers for the king's head.
I'm not sure of the proportions, and probably the mod gonna be a little bit different. Anyway it's not to work ex-nihilo, with a tiny rough guide into maya !
04-01-2005, 09:39 AM
if your 3d is as good as your ideas then it will be a great expirience seeing your progres on this!
04-01-2005, 09:23 PM
First off...............................Love the avatar......:thumbsup:
very stylish creations/concepts Aignel..................The fun and creative design too me is very nice and well done........Style and lots of promise with this.....I can see lots of character and fun and wonderful mood.....I will watch with both eyes wide open for more fun and creativity here......See you soon.I 'll be the guy in the front row...........looking for more......Bonne chance.....oh luck has nothing to do with it....but still .....Bonne chance......:arteest:
04-02-2005, 12:08 AM
Your entry is coming along very well, i'm really eager to see the first meshs.
Keep it up, may the Shadows be in ya :buttrock:
04-04-2005, 06:21 AM
Good design for the king's head... I want to see his modeling impatiently... I think he will be very original, good working Mister :buttrock:
04-07-2005, 12:58 PM
After a computer formatting, I'm back !
Here is my first poly ! The head of the faked king !
This is just one side and I'm not so happy of what it looks like... But this is just the begining... Gonna improve that !
04-07-2005, 01:01 PM
The second one ! Front view ! ;-)
04-07-2005, 01:11 PM
Miezis >> Thank you ! I hope my 3d gonna be cool, I appreciate that you like the idea ! :bounce:
Virtuoso >> Thank you very much ! Love my avatar too, this why it's my avatar of course ! :) Thank you for the "good luck", hé, hé, you know Luck have sometime something to do with it, sometime computer or windows crashs are really mystics crashs... So luck is'nt to many in that kind of challenge ! Thanks for your support ! :thumbsup:
DjinnShadows >> Hope the "Inshadows" powa gonna be with me... héhé... Mârci beaucû ! :buttrock:
Lemog >> Thank you, glad to see you look forward to my thread ! :bounce:
Cheers ! :)
04-07-2005, 01:16 PM
Oh yeah... the King's piece is started... good news... :thumbsup: happy to see you with a clean computer... it's very good for a challenge beginning...
04-07-2005, 02:06 PM
You've got a nice story, and a good modeling start,
I'll keep an eye on your thread to see how things will evolve.
good luck to you.:)
04-07-2005, 02:13 PM
Very nice story and big scene ....weeeee....very sweet style....subscribing on this....have fun:bounce:
04-07-2005, 07:27 PM
great start mate !.. bit to early to crit yet though
04-07-2005, 08:23 PM
Hi Mr.Waka...Style and grace man...Mental start to the polyprocess:thumbsup:
Can't wait to see more
04-07-2005, 09:03 PM
very good beginning ;)
good luck man, it is a good concept ! good luck ;)
pour le moemnt rien a dire sur le model, ca a l'air bien !!
04-07-2005, 11:25 PM
Here is the following of the fakes king head modeling.
There're the after smooth polygonal head and the low poly head with mesh texture.
There're few rough colours too in order to explain the expected final result.
Ears, hair, mustaches have to be done ! Smooth have to be improved !
That's all for today ! ;-)
I hope gonna done the whole model (modeling, UVs, textures, rigging, skinning) for the end of the week-end !
04-07-2005, 11:37 PM
Thank's everybody for your support and looking forward this thread ! :bounce:
Lemog >> You know, sometime it's a life or death question, when your OS cannot even make your internet browser running, you've got to format ! :)
Nixos >> Thank's ! Glad to see you like my storyline and my first poly ! :thumbsup:
Dimitris >> Thanks you ! Yeah :D big scene.... argghh... But I'll have fun, of course, fun is everything !! :bounce:
eddieellis >> Thank you mate ! Of course it's a low start... I'm a diesel you know... :) So...
DaddyMack >> Thanks you, I really appreciate your comment, I'ma happy to see you like it !:thumbsup:
pitiwazou >> Merci Cédric ! Heureux de voir que tu apprécis l'idée !! Je vais faire de mon mieux pour réaliser tout ça ! Thank you dude ! :bounce:
Cheers ! :buttrock:
04-08-2005, 01:22 AM
Good concept, and nice modeling!! :thumbsup:
I like your original style, really good carachter!!!
Keep going! :beer:
04-08-2005, 02:27 AM
wow looks very great, nice concept also.
maybe the nose is a little bit too small.
04-08-2005, 05:08 AM
Bon... je vais être absent pendant 1 semaine... I wish you a good courage and I hope to discover a lot of things when I come back... @+ :thumbsup:
04-08-2005, 07:40 AM
J'aime bcp le style de modélisation où tu vas c très chouette ;)
Bonne suite :)
04-08-2005, 08:05 AM
As I mentioned earlier.......the concept/idea.........is fresh,stylish.......
The head modeling follows this very well,nice clever stylsih design......Fun to see and interesting,a unique creation as is the entite concept here........"good Luck" with your continued efforts here ;) .....Aignel......I am enjoying your art and ideas here.....:arteest:
04-08-2005, 12:13 PM
Good to see the first polys, theere are still some weird shapes in the mesh but it's coming along and nicely fits your artwork.
04-08-2005, 01:26 PM
Nice ideas and cool concept mec !
I like the style ! King's head modeling is looking great, i'm subscribing and hope i'll see more...
ps : Is Corbier in your avatar ? HAHAHAHA trop bon, j'etais fan aussi quand j'etais gamin (...enfin je lsuis encore un peu mais bon...) ! :scream:
04-08-2005, 01:42 PM
So Mr Waka, when did you first start to realise that you were a little ummm... different...
Seriously tho you've got a standout entry coming together her man!
I look forward to seeing the many aspects of this come to life;)
04-08-2005, 04:40 PM
Hi there !
SuperXCM >> Thank you for your support, I appreciate ! Glad to see you like the charater design ! :thumbsup:
Jed D >> Thank you man ! You're right, the nose is a bit too small (or thin, no ?), I improved that with a bigger nose and a larger one ! Thank's for you crit's I really need a look back from members in order to improve my work ! So thank you keeping an eye on my thread ! :)
Lemog >> Tu te payes le luxe de partir en vacances en plein challenge !! :) Have nice hollidays mate ! And see ya after one week ! I promise it gonna have more stuffs !!... Workflo, workflow, workflow.... :buttrock:
Elendil le Grand >> Thank you Elendil, happy to sse you like the modeling ! Thank you one more time for your support !:thumbsup:
Virtuoso >> Thank you Virtuoso for your support and to keep an eye on my work ! Glad to see you like my "creation" ! I really appreciate !!:bounce:
DjinnShadows >> Arrrhhh, "Inshadows" agent comes back ! héhé :thumbsup: Yes, I know, I'm not satisfied with my modeling for now ! There's few bad tesselation stuffs... I gonna improve and clear that, try to have the better... I try to fit to my roughs but it's not easy to do... I'm not a master of character modeling as you know... héhé... donc un challenge de plus à relever ! Mârci de suivre tout ça en tout cas !
cipher >> Thank's man ! Glad to see you like the concept and first modeling mec !! Vi, ça est "François Corbier" mon piti avatar ! héhé... il chante en solo sa guitare à la main maintenant ! C'est un révolté ce mec !... Like it !... Il est fun (et fou) quoi ! :)
DaddyMack >> Thank you DaddyMack, you know how I like your work too, so it's a real pleasure seeing you here and I'm glad to see you like my work ! I hope it's "different" ! Thank's ! :bounce:
04-08-2005, 04:48 PM
Here it's the final modeling of the king's head... I clear the mesh, enhance the modeling details, and change few details and general shape !
I'm now using the default scanline render of Maya, I was previously using Mental Ray for Maya, but I'm ill at ease with that Render (MR) so... And I found the rendering better, cause I like very contrasted pictures ("clair-obscure" pictures !), with dark shadows and bright lights !
That's all. Tha body is coming ! I'm looking for a technic in order to make the hair and mustaches of my charater. I don't know the one I gonna use and witch what sor t of style !
To be continued...
04-08-2005, 07:45 PM
Great model, it looks really fun to model
04-09-2005, 01:50 AM
Haha Eskellent ! :scream:
You've really fit your artwork very well and the details you added (comme le poil de fion frontal ou l'oreille de hamster bagarreur) made him even better. Good Job mate :buttrock:
04-11-2005, 03:11 PM
04-12-2005, 02:43 AM
Hi there !
Here is the final texturing for the head of the fake king... and a tiny test of hair cut...
Comments an crits are welcomed !
Oh god ! I'm late, I've got to finish the body of the king now...
04-12-2005, 02:49 AM
Hi there !
ibambao >> Thank you man ! I appreciate... not so fun to model.. I promise... :)
DjinnShadows >> Glad to see you like it better now after those few added details ! :bounce: OUUUUUUUUUIIIIIIII, vive les poils de fion... :eek: Thank you mate !
kuzgunoglu >> He, he... yep, creepy, hun ?... I hope so ! :thumbsup: thank's for your support man !
Cheers ! Gonna sleep now !... :shrug:
04-12-2005, 02:55 AM
Love It!!! He looks positively stuck up!
Keep it coming Mr Waka, and don't forget my friend, father time is chasing us on this one;)
May the force be with you
04-12-2005, 03:16 AM
Looks like a trip to the beauty parlor for the king.............very flashey,very well done.very wild......keep the show coming Aignel......unique and fun.....:thumbsup:
04-12-2005, 03:27 AM
quite an interesting style you have, this entry has quite a bit of potential. keep up the good work, your sticking very close to your lineart. i have no crits.
04-12-2005, 05:23 AM
these guys don't give you enough credit ...this is awesome .... very clever!! well done
04-12-2005, 06:03 AM
hey mr waka... He's got style... love him so far even though i would go a little easy on the magenta related colors.. the kinda give him the queen's looks and not the kings i think... But it is great nevertheless....:thumbsup:
04-12-2005, 06:04 AM
i think this is wicked
gotta love the drag style make-up
excellent modeleing and even better texturing
now bring on the body
04-12-2005, 02:41 PM
J'adore trop le style! :)
C'est franchement génial :bounce:
Allé! faut avancer plus vite que ça hein!!
Go on go on man!! :buttrock:
04-13-2005, 05:10 AM
Tic Tac, Tic Tac, Man i just figured out, you were nearly halfway in the challenge timeline and only got that lovely kings head !
Come on, all these people are waitin' for your ground breaking entry :buttrock:
Go GuyJo Go !!! :thumbsup:
04-13-2005, 11:40 AM
04-13-2005, 04:26 PM
Your style is nice and very original!:thumbsup: I liked colors too... keep on going man, I hope to see your progress:)
wahou, je le voyais pas avec ce genre couleur le King, c'est sympa comme modele et dommage que cela soit pour une image fixe parce qu'avec ce menton, dans une anim y'aurait vraiment moyen de délirer
bon suitage l'artiste :arteest:
04-15-2005, 11:18 PM
Perso je l'aime moins avec les cheveux, mais le style est toujours là :)
Bonne suite aussi ;)
04-15-2005, 11:22 PM
Tres joli textures, j'aime beaucoup l'expression...perso j'aime bien les cheveux moi, ca donne un style sympa !
Nice textures, i really like the expression, the hair gives a cool style !
kipiteupe ! :)
04-16-2005, 07:48 AM
i think we're ready for anouther update ;)
04-16-2005, 08:32 AM
Very unique style you got there Corbier ! Keep going mate !
04-18-2005, 03:07 AM
huhuhu, very funny face, love ur style, keep it up mate :thumbsup: .
04-18-2005, 03:41 AM
great design !!
04-18-2005, 06:37 AM
A desig very special, very original, and very interesting... I like that MrWaka :thumbsup: Je sui vraiment curieux de voir la suite... very good job on his face... cheer :D
04-18-2005, 07:00 AM
:bounce: ...OLALA....weee...the King is awesome man..!....so much different style... :applause:
04-23-2005, 11:10 AM
Yes, totally cool, i love your character but it´s a queen not a king :scream:
04-23-2005, 01:55 PM
Great character,Joseph! i really loved the style!
keep it up!:thumbsup:
04-24-2005, 05:38 AM
Update, update, update... bon sang... on est hors d'haleine ici... more more more, we want more... :buttrock: courage mec...
04-27-2005, 01:18 AM
great work :bounce:! mr.waka and good luck and much pleasure on his challenge ,
from serge de mayalounge...)
05-09-2005, 05:02 AM
Hey my friend, I think now it's time to update... don't sleep... you take too many rest now... go to work... and post :scream: Allez... tu ne vas quand même pas t'arrêter en si bon chemin... :bounce:
05-13-2005, 01:41 AM
Talk about a bad hair day I have often had to shave an unruley beard like that. his, not yours.
the mauve into violet is super. There is a good deal of feeling that you have put into his countenence. He leaves us guessing as to what he is thinking. The Bard once said though he was a villin he smiled and smiled>> but then what is he then thinking? The affect is one where you keep us guessing. That is good you can then keep that knowledge from us untill the adventure of going through the plot brings us to that point. Tawneycocker
05-13-2005, 01:41 AM
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