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flyingP
03-22-2005, 11:17 AM
Brian J. Read has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=5849)

Latest Update: Final Image: Industrial morning wakeup ritual
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1115710337_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1115710337_large.jpg)

OK and now as the final image milestone and I am off to try and upload the tiff....actually no I am off to get another coffee first :D

paulwdavidson
03-22-2005, 11:21 AM
Nice to see you again.........good luck


Paul

duddlebug
03-22-2005, 11:30 AM
Woohoo!! Good to see you back with the 2D'ers Brian!!

Squibbit
03-22-2005, 11:39 AM
*happy dance*

welcome back dude!

:bounce:

MDN67
03-22-2005, 11:49 AM
welcome and good luck:thumbsup:

flyingP
03-22-2005, 11:53 AM
thanks guys, I'll do the rounds and drop into your threads later too. Might be a while before I post anything but I figure there may be a chance of me finishing in 2D this time........ I was actually planning to give the challenge a skip this time round but it's an interesting theme so...... :)

Russell-Nash
03-22-2005, 12:30 PM
Nice to see you again. :thumbsup:
Good luck.

Russel

NinjaA55N
03-22-2005, 01:24 PM
Welcome back! I missed ur creations at 2d opera challenge. Im waiting that u blow me away this time :) good luck!

W-I-L
03-22-2005, 01:29 PM
really missed u last time in 2d... ur macine flesh was amazing.. should have one. Blow us away!.. i will one day finins a challenge.. when pigs fly!


sorry

flyingP
03-22-2005, 06:02 PM
Russel, W!L, the Ninja dude :D , thanx

right well I suppose I might as well get in with a concept.

What it's my mind at the moment is more slightly more ambiguous scene,

an old "human" figure secured in a chair, in the middle of a large robotic (sentient perhaps) type machine, a row of controls for this machine in front of him with which he can control this machine to satisfy his needs, food / water / the TV / flushing the toilet etc

he controls but is dependant, so who is really the master ? .

just a thought at them moment :)

JasonChan
03-22-2005, 06:20 PM
Good luck Flying P! Good to see you in this competition :)

JamesMK
03-22-2005, 07:25 PM
The concept has been approved by wabbit authorities. Although it means I might have to do some actual work on my short myself now, I have to wish you good luck anyway. Officially. I'll save the insults for the PMs.


:D

flyingP
03-22-2005, 08:30 PM
The concept has been approved by wabbit authorities. Although it means I might have to do some actual work on my short myself now, I have to wish you good luck anyway. Officially. I'll save the insults for the PMs.


:D

I've not forgotten the short wabbit, and is this like a WSA? :D

JamesMK
03-22-2005, 08:34 PM
I've not forgotten the short wabbit, and is this like a WSA? :D
Didn't think so, but I try to find conflicts even when there's none to be found :D

And nope, you can't get a real WSA this early in the game, only a preliminary approval to move on with the suggested plan.

flyingP
03-22-2005, 08:35 PM
Didn't think so, but I try to find conflicts even when there's none to be found :D

And nope, you can't get a real WSA this early in the game, only a preliminary approval to move on with the suggested plan.

damn you mean I have to do something this time :banghead:

Tommy Lee
03-23-2005, 06:27 AM
Good Luck buddy!:thumbsup:

Cheerz

Tom

SideAche
03-23-2005, 06:58 AM
Good to see you again Brian. Best wishes. I enjoy your work

wuensch
03-23-2005, 07:10 AM
Hi Brian,
Cool that you are giving it another try.
Good theme with lots of potential, i am really curious what you all come up with.
(Yesterday I thought for a second to enter myself, because of the first prize--- I want a Cintiq 21 sooo badly, sigh--- :buttrock: )

Olli

flyingP
03-23-2005, 07:12 AM
(Yesterday I thought for a second to enter myself, because of the first prize--- I want a Cintiq 21 sooo badly, sigh--- :buttrock: )

Olli

would be good if you did to be honest :D

ace4016
03-23-2005, 08:44 AM
Good luck, glad you joined.

flyingP
03-23-2005, 12:19 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1111580350_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1111580350_large.jpg)

just making a start

flyingP
03-23-2005, 12:20 PM
so..... just been told I have to take my son and the dog for a walk, but I'll be back with a rundown on this shortly....i hope :)

duddlebug
03-23-2005, 12:24 PM
I've always found that dog's are so bossy!! :)

Good start.... i'll look forward to hearing what you have to say for yourself...

Squibbit
03-23-2005, 12:45 PM
so..... just been told I have to take my son and the dog for a walk

just take em to the woods, put them in a cardboard box and tell em its their new home
and that it's about time they started takin care of themselves and head back home

well that's what i did to mine anywayz :shrug:

JamesMK
03-23-2005, 01:08 PM
Dang, that looks good!

But there's something about the details that looks kinda kinky too :curious:

W-I-L
03-23-2005, 01:12 PM
very nice start. like the idea . . .

flyingP
03-23-2005, 01:56 PM
Dang, that looks good!

But there's something about the details that looks kinda kinky too :curious:

that would be the joy stick :eek:

@Squibbit.....let me guess, your parents did much the same huh :D

@duddlebug......aren't they just :D

@W!L.....glad to hear it

yeah well anyway, back to the concept, for some reason I am thinking clockwork or the machinery, just want to make it look like he is in something big and ambiguous in overall form, and I want him to look more constrained by the whole thing. Still want to add many more controls in his reach, and then add something to the machine that gives it an identity, I want it watching him, and then there is a case of adding something to show he is being served by the machine, would also be nice to let the figure lose some of it's humanity.....all thoughts :shrug:

Squibbit
03-23-2005, 01:58 PM
your parents did much the same huh :D

oh good heavens no, they're angels

coCoKNIght
03-23-2005, 02:01 PM
That first sketch is very promising! Good luck!

Atwooki
03-23-2005, 02:16 PM
Damn! You got a concept up already :eek:
Is this just fumbling in the dark, or a 'straight-in-for-the-kill' type approach?

Watching and waiting.....

A.

mack72
03-23-2005, 02:21 PM
Cool start. Looking forward to watching this one 'grow'!


Good luck!

flyingP
03-23-2005, 02:48 PM
Is this just fumbling in the dark, or a 'straight-in-for-the-kill' type approach?


wahahaaha busted :D

to be honest Chris it's too early for even me to know :)

TheFirstAngel
03-23-2005, 02:58 PM
trackes the 2nd piggy now too! hahahaha, no tail tickling from destiny this time cuz she couldn't find your 3d entry ;)
Supecool sketch btw as expected :P

Wish ya all the fun and best luck mate, let it rock!

pigwater
03-24-2005, 08:56 PM
trackes the 2nd piggy now too! hahahaha,

yah, just follow the mud tracks

hey flyinP ya know, you really do got some mad skills ... blood lines aside i really like your stuff ... clean, quick, succint with nice compositions and interesting subject ... good luck, have fun, see ya around ( and i ain't going anywhere this time, this pig is stayin grounded):bounce:

jstardust
03-24-2005, 08:59 PM
This looks like its going to be good. Can't wait for more. Best of luck Pig:thumbsup:

Virtuoso
03-24-2005, 09:01 PM
Hi brian.......Well thats a mighty fine concept.I really love the feeling of movement and the sense of action......plus the whole potential set up for gadgets and all......Really a nice start and idea,impressive.Best to as you go along......This will be real interesting to see grow.....:thumbsup:

flyingP
03-25-2005, 06:48 AM
well well, thanks for stopping by guys, have just sadly not yet had a chance to take it further......maybe this weekend with a bit of luck though :shrug:

and funnily enough it is me that is getting ready to take flight this time pig brother, although I should I hope have time to finish this beforehand

Climax
03-25-2005, 08:32 AM
• Hi there Brian! Sketch is looking good! Great start, keep flying

ace4016
03-25-2005, 08:37 AM
The cocnept looks and sounds good so far, can't wait to see what direction you'll take it.

flyingP
03-25-2005, 02:17 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1111760220_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1111760220_large.jpg)

so, started adding what I think of as the identity part of the servant and are also trying to set the mood a bit (want the environment to be ambiguous, so it's dark)

I am hoping to keep a tension between these too but still need to bring in the "servant" aspect, have yet to settle on exactly how I will do that yet.

Squibbit
03-25-2005, 02:34 PM
:surprised

what's awesome mean ?


.

jddog
03-25-2005, 02:42 PM
Sorry for late subscribe on your thread flying... now here I am and actually just what I can say is :thumbsup:

jdd

OKMER
03-25-2005, 02:45 PM
Hey Brian,nice concept and great start!!!(now isn't that constructive?han,LOL)
Maybe it could be nice if the master had to call his machine to clean the coffee he has let fall on the ground,with this kind of embarrased look on his face towards the machine.
Any,just n idea like that,I really like your work and so I'll have my seat down here!!!

flyingP
03-25-2005, 02:49 PM
Maybe it could be nice if the master had to call his machine to clean the coffee he has let fall on the ground,with this kind of embarrased look on his face towards the machine.
Any,just n idea like that,I really like your work and so I'll have my seat down here!!!

:D that's just given me idea which may make this more comical but which I may just do a version of for myself if nothing else :lightbulb

JasonChan
03-25-2005, 02:58 PM
Looking good :) Right now the human looks a little metalic, though. But I'm sure that will be fixed as you go along. Are you going to make the master servent relationship more obvious? I couldn't tell what it was at first glance. Maybe have the machine performing a task for the human?

duddlebug
03-25-2005, 02:59 PM
This is looking really promising, Brian... i didn't say before, but my favourite bit is the guy's big feet...

And i'd agree with you... you still need to bring in the (more obvious) 'servant aspect'. CAn't wait to see how you do that!

flyingP
03-25-2005, 03:02 PM
Are you going to make the master servent relationship more obvious? I couldn't tell what it was at first glance. Maybe have the machine performing a task for the human?

you didn't read my comment under the picture did you? :D but yes still thinking about that bit although, I do have a few ideas, that being said i still want it to be a bit ambiguous :)

edit: you got in there just before me Jonny, yeah the feet were intended as a bit of fun, cool that you picked up on that :D

and I am working on it :D

bonestudio
03-25-2005, 03:05 PM
Well FlyingP good luck for this new challenge :)

Here it goes again.

Same comment as the others, let see what other ideas you have in mind !!!

digital-bobert
03-25-2005, 03:06 PM
looks like it's on its way. good luck! what's the old man looking at?

flyingP
03-25-2005, 05:25 PM
looks like it's on its way. good luck! what's the old man looking at?

he should be looking into the robotic eye....may not be so clear in lower res though. I am trying to get a bit of tension between the two......aaaaaand I think I may have just had an idea how to bring the servant idea over in a way in a way that should I hope keep the tension, just haven't got to doing it yet :)

cheers

Tommy Lee
03-26-2005, 09:19 AM
Wonderful concept and well executed. Bring it on Brian:buttrock:

artemesia66
03-26-2005, 04:32 PM
looks, good flyingP. Looking forward to seeing how this progresses.

DimitrisLiatsos
03-26-2005, 08:23 PM
Brian J. Read has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=5849)

Latest Update: Concept Sketch: sketch 2
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1111760220_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1111760220_large.jpg)

so, started adding what I think of as the identity part of the servant and are also trying to set the mood a bit (want the environment to be ambiguous, so it's dark)

I am hoping to keep a tension between these too but still need to bring in the "servant" aspect, have yet to settle on exactly how I will do that yet.

Found ya!

Ok...man ...this is tottaly awesome.

I am following this like NUTS.....have fun.:):thumbsup:

Xtronik
03-26-2005, 08:30 PM
Outstanding work so far FP .... Good to see u again
U re inspiring! :thumbsup:

paperclip
03-26-2005, 09:35 PM
Great work so far, I really like the background, it looks dark, yet not overly so. The little chrome ball is actually my favourite part. The whole concept reminds me of this movie, I can't remember the name, but this boy called David was brought into a spaceship with lots of cool little creatures and he moved the spaceship around with little arm pads and he was flying underwater and over desert. It was one of my favourite movies at the time. I wish I could remember the name,but anyway your sketch reminds me of it!
Great work. Would you mind telling me what sort of brushes youo're using for the background?

flyingP
03-27-2005, 09:18 AM
Great work so far, I really like the background, it looks dark, yet not overly so. The little chrome ball is actually my favourite part. The whole concept reminds me of this movie, I can't remember the name, but this boy called David was brought into a spaceship with lots of cool little creatures and he moved the spaceship around with little arm pads and he was flying underwater and over desert. It was one of my favourite movies at the time. I wish I could remember the name,but anyway your sketch reminds me of it!

wasn't "Flight of the Navigator" by any chance ?



Would you mind telling me what sort of brushes youo're using for the background?

I'm Painter 6 not sure of the actual settings atm and I tend to play with them a bit while am working so it is a bit hard to say, the paper structure usually plays a big roll too though :shrug:

@ the Greek nut :rolleyes: :D ,Tommy, Janet, and Xtronik...... thanks folks, really appreciate you all stopping by :D :thumbsup:

eclipson
03-27-2005, 09:51 AM
nice dark looking sketches, dark mood, interesting, love to see ur next piece:)

GoodLux!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

flyingP
03-27-2005, 11:37 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1111923441_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1111923441_large.jpg)

just trying to work on the servant aspect, the hands and the items in them are off scale atm, just still trying to figure out what items I want to add, the razor and towel should be staying though.

eupee
03-27-2005, 11:55 AM
vey nice... youve achieved this luring danger by that machine, making the human feel small... i love it.

monsitj
03-27-2005, 12:23 PM
your sketch has good value , it' catch my eye first in the entry page!! good luck!

Squibbit
03-27-2005, 12:27 PM
ahh , nice update , the atmosphere of te place i like the best,although
everythings cool, a place inside a huge machinery, a hideout , a timeless
place to relax in

jddog
03-27-2005, 05:43 PM
Brian that come out very stylish :applause: Really wonderful design/skills and the concept of this old little man and the servant machine is excellent , like it a lot.
:wip:
jdd

coCoKNIght
03-27-2005, 05:52 PM
wow, that's looking ace! sorry I have nothing constructive to say... maybe if you mess up something on purpose :D

NOOB!
03-27-2005, 05:53 PM
yeh that looks really nice.

wuensch
03-27-2005, 06:07 PM
Yup--
great progress, brian---
it started out so innocent and now i can see the machine slice his throat or service him to death--- :applause:

Great painting technique, also---
I stop by everytime i browse the overview over the works at.http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?view=2d&sort=lastupdate
works well in iconsize

Olli

JamesMK
03-27-2005, 06:10 PM
Dang, have to second what's been said here - that really looks spiffy to the max.

R-K
03-27-2005, 06:11 PM
promising - the towel gives really much of "servant" feel to that robot. Guy on chair should maybe look a bit more controlling and the servant less scary ;)

wuensch
03-27-2005, 07:00 PM
promising - the towel gives really much of "servant" feel to that robot. Guy on chair should maybe look a bit more controlling and the servant less scary ;)
Oh no, they shouldnt---please--
I like it as it is-- :scream:
;-)
Olli

ace4016
03-27-2005, 07:13 PM
Wow, i wish i had a critique but i dont, too good. Keep it up, the servant makes more sense now (although i'd be scared to see a robot with a razor in his hands).

flyingP
03-27-2005, 07:25 PM
well, things have been busy here :eek:

@coCoKNIght: thanks got a giggle out of that one :D

@Olli: no worries I do to so it'll be staying like that.....really rather liked you concept too but then I have already said that :D

@James: where did you pick up "spiffy" ? :D

and to the rest of you many thanks, just hope you like the final product as much as the sketch :)

artemesia66
03-27-2005, 07:55 PM
i love the way the servant aspect is coming out. -- the high tech/low tech mix of a straight razor in the hands of a robot is too good. only the towel and the paper look a bit out of scale to me--everything else is great.

JamesMK
03-27-2005, 08:43 PM
where did you pick up "spiffy" ? :D
:D ... Calvin and Hobbes if I remember correctly

TheFirstAngel
03-27-2005, 08:45 PM
just came to say hi and watch if the boys behave ;) great work piggy, go go go!

Jack Youngblood
03-27-2005, 11:40 PM
Nice atmosphere to this one. Best I've seen in a while. Love it dark and moody.

ms@zx
03-28-2005, 06:50 AM
gosh...gotta subscribe this~~how could i have missed this one.great skecth for now:)would love to see more updates!!

DimitrisLiatsos
03-28-2005, 09:35 AM
Except that ...spiffy :scream: feeling ..i also like that what catches my eye very much is the sence of depth u have in this Brian (although i am no painter...rather a viwer in this)....this is very educational for my eye...:) so...updates please ....:bounce: ..or i will call that spiffy guy :scream: to start teasing u ....



waiting for more man!

paulwdavidson
03-28-2005, 09:57 AM
Love it..........this is the one.


It struck me, while i was enjoying the pic.........it seemed the balding old man has probably been served all of his life by this robot (might not be your concept, as i have'nt read every single post, so bare with me) and i thought it would be funny if the robot had a comb or brush in one arm that's rusted up and siezed as it's been out of commission for some time...........presuming the boy/ young man had his hair brushed at some time.

Anyway, i just wanted to let you know what went through my mind as i was drooling over this.

Like i wrote........love it!

Paul

NinjaA55N
03-28-2005, 10:10 AM
Wow! This is coming out awesome! As Paul said before, there is so much story in this pic, which could be told by u, or easily imagine in the viewers mind. So much emotions in here, where that old man seams to sit there for ever.. and the focus is so well pointed on him and relation with his servant. Just beautiful! Wish to see more soon. Especially details and colors, if there will be some. Maybe some red will fit in nicely? :)

teknotek83
03-28-2005, 10:14 AM
This is looking really great! Nice job working out the concept. Good luck!

Reinier
03-28-2005, 10:19 AM
I loved your machineflesh entry... so ill be watching you :D

~ reinier

Adamos
03-28-2005, 10:25 AM
Hey Brian!

2D and 3D as well?

you're sick! :)

this last image here is a pretty bloody moody one keep going!

like it

spiro
03-28-2005, 04:06 PM
This is really one of the top favorite entries in this challenge. Wonderful mood and marvellous idea for a servant-master theme. I can barely wait for the coloring...

Very inspiring!
Keep it comin'

MDN67
03-28-2005, 04:23 PM
good concept, is a very "mechanics world", i like this, good work:thumbsup:

Ilikesoup
03-28-2005, 05:03 PM
This is still just a concept sketch? I thought you were nearly done!:eek:

Beautiful work. I love how the old man is the only flesh and blood character in the picture. Serves the composition well that his skin is ashen rather than pink, like he's truly a part of the machine now. Shaving towel and straight razor are a nice personalized touch.

No crits whatsoever. Just restating the obvious. :D

JasonChan
03-28-2005, 05:30 PM
I like the shaving idea. Although personally, I don't hink I'd let a huge machine take a blade to my face :scream:

W-I-L
03-28-2005, 05:37 PM
this is great mate... got to be in the top at the end. U were robbed in the machine flesh. Wathcing this with great anticipation (and a huge amount of envy!!!)

hdri
03-28-2005, 07:17 PM
Hello, Brian! There is more and more people in the last challenges, and it is not easy to track most of them, but be sure I'll follow yours till the end! Congrats for the nice concept and fresh sketches. It looks great since the first brushstroke.

Atwooki
03-28-2005, 08:19 PM
Nice update, cool 'n moody setting, and lovely style, Brian :thumbsup:

Maybe an idea to have the 'servo-bot' bring on some a huge platter of food? no, wait.... that thought might just have ocurred because I'm pretty hungry right now :D

As a thought, might want to watch the 'bot doesn't get 'too close' to that in the film 'Flight of the Navigator' (?)

Chris

flyingP
03-29-2005, 08:39 AM
@ artemesia66 actually A lot of it is out of scale I am still just trying to think of what bits to add, the razor seemed a logical addition to get across the concept of being served and threatened at the same time, I want the other robotic hands to hold more innocent items, I just feel it makes the razor even more threatening then somehow.

@ the1st_angel like people in here are going to behave :eek: :D

@ Jack Youngblood, ms@zx, teknotek83, spiro, MDN67, W!L glad you guys like it

@ the Greek nut you don't really think I am afraid of wabbits do you?

@ Paul Davidson kinda like that idea to be honest, may just look into that, thanks :thumbsup:

@NinjaASSN still thinking about the colours, sort of had beige and green tones initially in mind atm, but I still need to really to give it some deeper thought.

@Reinier yep the Machine Flesh challenge was a lot of fun too :)

@Adamos no just 2D this time around ;)

@ Ilikesoup yep just a sketch at the moment

@ Evil Gerbil would have me thinking twice too :)

@ hdri yeah keeps getting bigger and bigger but that's cool, quite impressive just how fast the turnover is in the 2D section this time too :eek:

@ Atwooki nahhh doesn't really look much like that one :D , just out of curiosity though how long ago did that movie come out :curious:


sorry if I missed anyone

cheers

Brian

scootermaya
03-29-2005, 08:24 PM
Hi Brian!
Good and very nice (but dark) things going on in this scene !
Crazy idea.... I love it !:thumbsup:

I didn't quite get where it is taking place . Maybe I missed this part of the story :sad:
The mood you wanted to get is definitly there anyway !

Good continuation man !

Arc80
03-29-2005, 09:11 PM
very cool dude. I'm really liking the lighting and composition and the subject matter. Can't wait to see more.

Goodluck,
Archie

flyingP
03-30-2005, 11:20 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1112181616_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1112181616_large.jpg)

dumped the newspaper, adding that sort of defined too much of an outside world IMO which I don't want just didn't fit...oh and it looked stupid :)

also decided to add a small table with whisky decanter and a glass in his left hand.

all rough as guts at the moment, but I think I'll slowly start working on the final image now

jddog
03-30-2005, 11:35 AM
whisky...? haha don't drink and drive....

:wip: really cool work Brian !

jdd

DimitrisLiatsos
03-30-2005, 12:26 PM
Whiskey was a nice touch ..kinda gives him a more Master icon ...my humble thought...:buttrock:


:love: ...i just love that depth and the way this goes....

duddlebug
03-30-2005, 12:30 PM
This is looking great!

The hands, doing their various tasks, are a fab idea (although i think the omission of the newspaper was a good move) and really make the piece.

OoooOh... it's good...

lotaH
03-30-2005, 04:14 PM
The illumination is perfect.

Congratulations...

Take care of the details..

Squibbit
03-30-2005, 04:16 PM
argh , whiskey , i been smelling whiskey all day at
work...dunno where it comes froms , driving me
insane...

mack72
03-30-2005, 04:38 PM
The muted bacjground works really well on this now. I love the servant droid, with all his arms. This is going to look pretty tasty once you start the final stages. Wish I was closer to getting a final idea!

Good luck with the painting!

Mack

SideAche
03-30-2005, 05:08 PM
Brian, this is awesome. The mood, everything. My only thought would be to put something small in the extreme foreground that would overlap the robot thingy a bit. Because of it's scale it's coming forward a bit for me. This is some awesome stuff buddy!

Atwooki
03-30-2005, 05:31 PM
Ahhh.... the essential platter of food :D .....What decent Master can give his orders efficiently without it ??

Just gets better and better, Brian :thumbsup:

Chris

Falcorr
03-30-2005, 05:43 PM
Very nice metallic touch you got there man! :)

bye- !

flyingP
03-30-2005, 07:28 PM
Ahhh.... the essential platter of food :D .....What decent Master can give his orders efficiently without it ??


or perhaps he is on the menu ;)

JamesMK
03-30-2005, 07:34 PM
or perhaps he is on the menu ;)
That would be a nice twist... does he go better together with a single malt or some other sort btw?

jereus
03-30-2005, 08:17 PM
This is really looking great. I dig the concept as well as the supporting elements and design. Keep it up - looking forward to watching your progression to the final result.

Lemog
03-31-2005, 12:42 PM
Very nice Art FlyingPPPPPPPPP... you have gold in your hands... I love the originality of the story... and whisky too... thanks :twisted: Best wishes for continuation...

flyingP
03-31-2005, 08:14 PM
I love the originality of the story... and whisky too... thanks :twisted:

;) :D

fooxoo
03-31-2005, 08:21 PM
Love this idea! The chracters are cute :D

Atwooki
04-01-2005, 08:34 PM
Wooah!
but I think I'll slowly start working on the final image now

Now we're talking, P :) Can't wait for this..............

Chris

BaronImpossible
04-01-2005, 08:40 PM
Haven't read the whole thread (oh, for broadband!) but what you have so far is very impressive, especially how you get that "effortless" metallic look. My one concern is that there's no bulk in the foreground, everything is very spindley. Obviously that's your intention, but I don't know, I find it a little off-putting.

YusufArtun
04-01-2005, 09:04 PM
whatching the process and exactly "enjoying" it,
you are coming up with something impressive

jake rupert
04-02-2005, 05:05 AM
Wow Brian, Olli told me, that I would find you here.
Your picture is allready looking like if it`s finished....
Echt Klasse, Mann.

;>) Jost Keller

flyingP
04-02-2005, 06:43 AM
@fooxoo cute? :surprised hadn't planned that :D

@Atwooki well I have sort of started into a "sort of" line work :D

@Baron Impossible I'll give it some thought with the foreground, wouldn't be too hard to add later :)

@YusufArtun glad you think so and I hope so

@Jost naahhh noch nicht fertig, ich arbeite aber daran :D
and damn fine to see you and Olli having a go too :bounce:

TheFirstAngel
04-02-2005, 12:51 PM
crazy piggy, nuts pet, makes me feel stressed and anoxious thinking about looking trough 485 updatenotifications or traight go painting and hunt some hotsuff piggy ;)
sweet update. the table looks logical to me, oh well blabla, your work rox.
keep it up mate!!!

BloodTaster
04-02-2005, 01:13 PM
Hey Flyingp!
Nice entry man!! I'll be watching your thread!:thumbsup:

goktugg
04-04-2005, 10:24 AM
wow!your brush stroke is so artistic,really pretty good sketch:) cool style!
i like so much,good luck:thumbsup:

Tremoside
04-04-2005, 10:49 AM
Beautiful work an those metallic surfaces!! Keep rockin man!

Tommy Lee
04-04-2005, 11:39 AM
Hey Brian!

Sorry for not replying so long, but my work is killing me right now.
I really love your concept. The image itself is very strong and reads very well. I haven't anything to crit at the moment...

Keep it going buddy:thumbsup:

flyingP
04-04-2005, 02:13 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1112620382_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1112620382_large.jpg)

Thanks guys

So, well partly because people seem to like the quality of the sketch, (and to be honest I also do myself although this really was just planned as a sketch) I thought I might as well work directly over it...well the background at least, I've done a bit of rough line work for the figure and the robot just to fix up a few things and to act as a reference layer, but the background I'll sort develop out of what I have done already, I wasn't planning any great detail there anyway. Not 'quite' the way I usually work but I don't see any reason not to and it may well be much faster in the end.

anyway here's the line work for the old guy, it's rough but enough to act as a guide

Cheers, Brian

duddlebug
04-04-2005, 02:17 PM
Lovely sketch, Brian... and i still love those feet!! :scream:

taeyoungchoi
04-04-2005, 02:17 PM
nice chair I would like to have as my workstation._I need a better chair.
I will keep my eyes on this.
Keep it up!

artjunkie
04-04-2005, 02:25 PM
Hey! Why haven't I noticed this thread before! This is GREAT!! I'm gonna follow this one, now buddy. Great work thus far!

Cheers!

fooxoo
04-04-2005, 03:01 PM
I like the dude, a very interesting concept!

paulwdavidson
04-04-2005, 03:07 PM
Very nice.......i love the uncomfortable position you have his neck in, it really adds to the character.

Imagine the 'bed sores'........!

Cool as always

Paul

camtheman
04-04-2005, 09:21 PM
just popped in here to say WAY COOL! Can't wait to see the color. BTW, nice work on the MachineFleshy Challenge...just got the book, looks smashing in print.

:thumbsup:

My M/S entry:

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?p=2122591#post2122591

My CSO entry:

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/5392/5392_1105418166_large_tiff.jpg

flyingP
04-05-2005, 10:59 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1112695180_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1112695180_large.jpg)

just starting into the colours, going for bit of an unhealthy look :)

jddog
04-05-2005, 11:52 AM
Really a fine work, like concept is really cool, your line art and the beginning of color session made this a wonderful work :thumbsup:
I'm stunned Flying. Bravo ! and of corse an :applause: for encouragement for next steps...
:wip:
jdd

Lemog
04-05-2005, 12:38 PM
Powerful for me... it will be a great artwork, I think and I'm sure Mister CochonVolant :scream:

Just one question, what is the things at right of the picture, an opened bottle of vine ? :eek:

flyingP
04-05-2005, 12:43 PM
Just one question, what is the things at right of the picture, an opened bottle of vine ? :eek:

that is the 'yet to be rendered properly' razor, sorry the image is just a detail atm
and I am off to find a corkscrew :D

Atwooki
04-05-2005, 02:46 PM
Love the LineArt, Brian :)

Can't wait to see your magical colours develope along the way, too!

BTW: Not receiving thread posting notification in e-mail, so replies might be a bit sporadic :(

Chris

flyingP
04-05-2005, 02:56 PM
BTW: Not receiving thread posting notification in e-mail, so replies might be a bit sporadic :(

Chris

not a problem Chris, after all quality is far more important than quantity :D

blackdragoncg
04-05-2005, 03:44 PM
Looking good Brian :thumbsup:

Miyagu
04-05-2005, 04:45 PM
this looks excellent! and yes... a little unhealthy... :) i´ll enjoy the updates! keep going! :thumbsup:

Yrindale
04-05-2005, 04:56 PM
What a sickly shade of green! I love it :thumbsup:

I'll definately be coming back to see more on this one.

camtheman
04-05-2005, 10:50 PM
I like the color choices for this. Keep it up! :bounce:

My M/S entry:

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.ph...591#post2122591

My CSO entry:

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge..._large_tiff.jpg

pigwater
04-06-2005, 04:22 AM
ooooooooooo ....what a nice unhealthy mood for an industrial morning wakeup ritual ... i like the razor glimmering especially

definitely starting to feel this... nice one wing-ed brother :thumbsup:

flyingP
04-06-2005, 07:22 AM
thank you people :D most glad the green went down well :thumbsup:

@ the watery pork, I think you've just given a title for this :bounce: :cool:

JamesMK
04-06-2005, 08:05 AM
Yep, sickly green works really well here. And then it won't matter if it turns a little green in print either :D

pigwater
04-06-2005, 08:37 AM
:shrug: ... sorry ... it was definitley an accident

flyingP
04-06-2005, 08:40 AM
but I hope you don't mind me using it anyway :D

pigwater
04-06-2005, 09:26 AM
not at all .. honored that a brain fart could be usable :thumbsup:

paulwdavidson
04-06-2005, 09:49 AM
Looking cool, mate. You might want to try a complimentary yellow to enhance that green.


Just a thought.

Who's making him his morning cup of tea? :)

paul

flyingP
04-06-2005, 09:54 AM
hmmm you don't think that may make it look a bit too ... happy?

and don't use that 'tea' word, strickly coffee drinkers here :D :argh:

JamesMK
04-06-2005, 09:59 AM
and don't use that 'tea' word, strickly coffee drinkers here :D :argh:
OK, I'm outta here :scream:

flyingP
04-06-2005, 10:00 AM
not again James :rolleyes:

JamesMK
04-06-2005, 10:02 AM
Not quite - I'm doing both now (pre-emptive strike: no, not the dogs, just tea and coffee)

flyingP
04-06-2005, 10:06 AM
(pre-emptive strike: no, not the dogs, just tea and coffee)

that was close you know :D

flyingP
04-06-2005, 04:24 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1112801096_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1112801096_large.jpg)

still just a detail because that's all I am working on atm, and not a huge update but the next few days 'may' well get busy and I have added the whiskey glass in his hand too so I thought what better reason :D

cheers

bonestudio
04-06-2005, 05:14 PM
Ohhh yes FLyinP :) very very nice !

I was a bit worried to be honest to see how you could do to make your picture less flat than your sketch...... Well I'm not worried anymore, If you keep that wuality for the entire picture it'll be just great.

One detail though but I think you didn't work in it yet, it's that the feets seems not as finished as the guy face....

flyingP
04-06-2005, 05:35 PM
One detail though but I think you didn't work in it yet, it's that the feets seems not as finished as the guy face....

quite right I have yet to work on them, among other things too :D

JamesMK
04-07-2005, 06:16 PM
Dammit Pig, you're getting a little bit too good at this painting stuff for your own good.

I'm afraid we'll have to kill you.

Squibbit
04-07-2005, 06:21 PM
Bunny on the loose !!!

*loads shotgun*

JamesMK
04-07-2005, 06:26 PM
*runs away fast while dodging the squibbly bullets*

Lemog
04-07-2005, 06:29 PM
Dammit Pig, you're getting a little bit too good at this painting stuff for your own good.

I'm afraid we'll have to kill you.
Well mate... if you kill Dédé (Dédé is a pig really apprecied in france), do you think if it's possible to share with me a part of his talent ? :scream: or only the glass of whisky :shrug:


Seriously... this guy have the power in his hands... I love his art :thumbsup: I'm sorry but I have nothing to crit...

XIA
04-07-2005, 06:35 PM
Can't wait to see the whole thing comes together. Great job!

Squibbit
04-07-2005, 08:32 PM
ngrraah, he vanish among the threads!

heeeere bunny bunny heeeere bunny

squib no got gun anmymore and is veery sory

Atwooki
04-07-2005, 09:40 PM
Dammit Pig, you're getting a little bit too good at this painting stuff for your own good.Yeah; you're not really gonna need a 'Cintiq', are you???
Healthy and masterly update, Brian - not to mention a very 'sippable' looking whiskey too; lucky 'ol master' ;)

Chris

flyingP
04-07-2005, 10:07 PM
fine just throw a party in my thread but forget to invite me :rolleyes:

Don't worry James plants are lousy shots ;)

and you know the funny thing is it has been bloody ages since I have had a decent whiskey :cry:

thanks all the same guys :D :thumbsup:

Vahn
04-08-2005, 12:38 AM
hmm i missed the party but i found ur entry ...how cool is that ? :D

very nice pic .. ill have to subscribe (in case there are more parties to miss). :scream:

artemesia66
04-08-2005, 04:54 PM
coming along, Fpig. that whiskey glass is a thing of beauty--about a 15-yr old islay malt, by the colour. ;)

flyingP
04-08-2005, 05:19 PM
coming along, Fpig. that whiskey glass is a thing of beauty--about a 15-yr old islay malt, by the colour. ;)

12 year old Cragganmore :wise: :D

JamesMK
04-08-2005, 05:35 PM
I would have hoped for 12 year old Laphroaig... ah well.. can't expect too much in a pig's thread... :shrug:

flyingP
04-08-2005, 05:37 PM
I would have hoped for 12 year old Laphroaig... ah well.. can't expect too much in a pig's thread... :shrug:

OK then "The Macallan" :)

JamesMK
04-08-2005, 05:43 PM
This is where I step in and admit that I actually don't know sh*t about scotch, and I have no idea what you're talking about :D

flyingP
04-08-2005, 05:52 PM
yes but I bet you could tell us a lot about Snus.....sadly :argh:

pigwater
04-09-2005, 09:57 AM
did i hear someione say snus ?? ... pass it out ... :bounce:

oh, and nice scotch by the way aviatic-p ... a splash of irish color to tug on the tastebuds and eyes :thumbsup:

Tris3d
04-10-2005, 10:16 AM
Loving this piece! Looking forward to more updates!

flyingP
04-10-2005, 12:10 PM
Looking forward to more updates!

Tuesday.....maybe, bit bogged down atm :shrug:

W-I-L
04-10-2005, 12:16 PM
loving thsi piece matey!! You wokr is really inspiring

artjunkie
04-10-2005, 12:25 PM
Great lookin' stuff... nice updates since last I visited (which hasn't been too often, sorry to say... y'know the 'ol day job thing and such, *sigh*). Love your character design, especially his proportions! Great whimsical feeling about that guy... and the glass, brilliant little touch.

Geez, you guys sure like your drink... um, ALOT! LOL

Vectorius
04-10-2005, 04:34 PM
I love your work and your univers! good luck!!

My master and servant entries
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=226013

Squibbit
04-10-2005, 04:45 PM
dude, u got a universe ?

flyingP
04-10-2005, 05:37 PM
dude, u got a universe ?

don't you ??? :surprised

and thanks for the comments people.

got a deadline to meet right at the moment so like I said updates to be expected first on Tuesday.....maybe

JamesMK
04-10-2005, 05:39 PM
got a deadline to meet right at the moment so like I said updates to be expected first on Tuesday.....maybe
Not good enough. To repent, you must now sacrifice two goats and a virgin to the almighty purple tounge.

Squibbit
04-10-2005, 05:40 PM
don't you ??? :surprised

duh... several..just didn't know it
was that common

congrats on the universe dude!

PS. and no, u sacrifice the goats to the virgin !

tingham
04-10-2005, 07:20 PM
Aside from the Frank Miller style robotic/organic forms which you've taken to a whole new place, the depth of field in this piece is stunning. I'm going to be trying to recreate those little camera distortion effects for weeks in my daily sketches.

Great work!

-t

flyingP
04-10-2005, 09:22 PM
Not good enough. To repent, you must now sacrifice two goats and a virgin to the almighty purple tounge.

virgin goats maybe....would be something for you James, as an alternative to dogs :D

EDIT:
is a personaly joke in case anyone is wondering......or most likely not :D

Oh and many thanks Tingham although I am not sure I deserve it :)

cabertevon
04-11-2005, 03:47 AM
Another great work from FP.

Congrats.

sl1200
04-12-2005, 03:57 AM
great progress..very fast!!! you already see a goal? coool!!!:eek:

flyingP
04-12-2005, 09:44 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1113338681_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1113338681_large.jpg)

pitiful update I know, but just to show at least some sign of life... :)

JamesMK
04-12-2005, 09:49 PM
pitiful update I know, but just to show at least some sign of life... :)
Yeah, that's pretty pathetic...

The whisky whatchamacallit looks good though :D

spacesnail
04-12-2005, 09:57 PM
At last dropping to your thread !
You've got a clear vision of what human kind should tend to :applause:
Very nice lighting and color scheme!

authentic
04-12-2005, 10:25 PM
I like this work because since the first sketch it's really different of so many threads. Keep going, i'm looking :D

pigwater
04-13-2005, 04:19 AM
The whisky whatchamacallit looks good though :D

flask ??

------------------

whatever it is, it came out great ...

FP, really like how your bringin in the subtleness here ... quality stuff :thumbsup:

tilite
04-13-2005, 07:04 AM
lol... straighten that damn table!!:rolleyes:

ur doing good work.. keep it up

:thumbsup:

JamesMK
04-13-2005, 07:17 AM
flask ??
Nah, he had a much fancier word for it.... decanter? :rolleyes:

cheeeng
04-13-2005, 07:43 AM
overall the mysterious mood got my interest. There is a certain darkness and loneliness to your picture. I am sensing the relation ship is quite bias as the servant could be the man or the machine or the other way around whatever you are trying to achieve it's heading through a good finish. Keep the update man.:)

flyingP
04-13-2005, 08:26 AM
Nah, he had a much fancier word for it.... decanter? :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

but yes :) .....bloody pain of a thing to paint too I might add :argh: stilll not really happy with it

lol... straighten that damn table!!


damn someone noticed :scream:

the servant could be the man or the machine or the other way around

yep that was the sort of ambiguity I was trying to achieve the master has the control of but is also dependant on his servant, the question is perhaps how aware the servant is of that. That and I have also tried to leave it open to what the servant is, the whole machine built around the master is part of the servant, is it all serving the master or is it active in other ways.... :)

tilite
04-13-2005, 10:07 AM
is this all that will be in the sceen?? i can invision an 50's retro style tv mixed with the modern flatscreens.. dont ask my how or y i just can... great work

fooxoo
04-13-2005, 05:30 PM
Is the guy having something stronger for a drink? ;)

Neat textures.

arkinet
04-13-2005, 06:30 PM
is this gonna be the ultimate "couch" potato thingy?*lol* i like it...

flyingP
04-13-2005, 09:07 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1113422875_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1113422875_large.jpg)

I am more or less happy with the master for the moment so I'll be moving on to the servant next, before going onto the background which is in a rather fluid state at the moment.

arkinet
04-13-2005, 10:10 PM
whoaaa... the big picture...great work dude!! is that like a swiss-knife kind of waiter? cool concept... i like the sharp contrast on the mechs and blurry background, can i borrow that style:) ? jst kiddng

JamesMK
04-13-2005, 10:22 PM
is that like a swiss-knife kind of waiter?
Probably german knife kind... and they're even worse - 'tis looking good, and I'm curious to see how you're going to lay out the background here...

flyingP
04-13-2005, 11:14 PM
and I'm curious to see how you're going to lay out the background here...

well that makes two of us :argh:

JamesMK
04-13-2005, 11:16 PM
well that makes two of us :argh:
Oh dear.... :scream:

gra7
04-14-2005, 01:10 AM
amaaaazinngg work man..

best luck. c ya !

spacesnail
04-14-2005, 08:01 AM
Hi Brian,

I must have been blind for a while : I thought the fat guy was some kind of slave to his addictions !:sad:
Seeing the whole pîece makes me feel like a blockhead
I love the design of the servant:bounce:

Keep going on

duddlebug
04-14-2005, 08:58 AM
It's looking really good, Brian! It could've made a 'Machineflesh' entry too!! :)

I like the little wooden table with the decanter of whisky. It's a cool contrast against all the machine elements.

I 'spose you're gonna fiddle with the scale of the servant's accessories?

And i still love those feet!

tilite
04-14-2005, 09:43 AM
well that shut me up... that 10 times better than the shitty retro tv i had in mind...

great work

userBrian
04-14-2005, 09:56 AM
Nice work. Those long arms on the servant look dangerous.
I imagine a short sparking and an arm flaying wildly about.

flyingP
04-14-2005, 07:35 PM
yeah sorry for the confusion there guys, those other posts were really just a detail....um...to show the detail as such...er...sorta....whatever :D

I 'spose you're gonna fiddle with the scale of the servant's accessories?


My brain is telling me yep Jonny, my eye is still thinking about it :argh:

artemesia66
04-17-2005, 07:12 PM
coming along nicely, Brian. great piece of painting on the decanter. scaling the accessories is going to be a tough call--realistically, they should be smaller, but expressively, their impact in the scene seems just about right (except maybe for the towel). if you make them smaller, how will you keep their importance? i await your brilliant solution :D

flyingP
04-17-2005, 07:55 PM
their impact in the scene seems just about right (except maybe for the towel). if you make them smaller, how will you keep their importance?

that is sort of the problem, I tried it and they sort of became insignificant, just being the size they are atm it does give the impression the servant is closer to the camera....well a bit :D .......guess it'll either work or .....er.... not :argh: :D

paulwdavidson
04-17-2005, 08:06 PM
Looks fantastic................another succesful piece of art, sir.

Paul

artjunkie
04-17-2005, 10:59 PM
Really amazing stuff... love how it's all comin' together. Now that I see the entire scene, I really like the compositon and muted colour palette. Masterful artwork for sure. Can't wait to see even more piggy goodness! :D

Carry on mate!

cheers

Squibbit
04-17-2005, 11:02 PM
is that the little man that keeps the wristwatch winded?

BillB
04-18-2005, 10:01 PM
that is sort of the problem, I tried it and they sort of became insignificant, just being the size they are atm it does give the impression the servant is closer to the camera....well a bit :D .......guess it'll either work or .....er.... not :argh: :D

Problem may be not just his accessories - looking at it in that light, maybe the servant is too big? Shrink him down a bit, and frame tighter. Maybe go for something more claustraphobic - although the open space lends a certain decadence and luxury.

camtheman
04-18-2005, 10:14 PM
Now I see... nothing like building a little suspense before unleashing the full monty! Whoa! Sweet pic, keep it comin!

:D

flyingP
04-18-2005, 10:57 PM
Problem may be not just his accessories - looking at it in that light, maybe the servant is too big? Shrink him down a bit

hmmmm, it's a thought although it may well lose some of the menace

and frame tighter. Maybe go for something more claustraphobic - although the open space lends a certain decadence and luxury.

there 'may' just be other elements coming in later most likely in the foreground that may add to that, and give a bit more depth, nothings really set in stone atm and it's easy enough to play with that later :)

flyingP
04-20-2005, 09:37 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1114029434_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1114029434_large.jpg)

sorry been slowed down a bit atm, but I am still working on it :)

paulwdavidson
04-20-2005, 11:38 PM
That is some scene......i like it a lot. You must be nearly finished?


Paul

Atwooki
04-21-2005, 02:12 AM
Getting there, Brian, with the skills we knew only you'd bring to the table- looking dark and moody in that thar room....
I'm a rootin' for yer; but give the poor ol' overworked servant some flying-robotic 'sub-servants', please ;)

Chris

Lemog
04-21-2005, 05:30 AM
Quite good update mate... the way is always good... I follow it then :thumbsup:

flyingP
04-21-2005, 07:59 AM
That is some scene......i like it a lot. You must be nearly finished?


:blush: only if I finally pull finger and get may A into G, althougth there isn't 'really' that much left to do methinks

but give the poor ol' overworked servant some flying-robotic 'sub-servants', please

:eek: that, is a very cool idea Chris!, if I can come up with something that doesn't disturb they main focus too much I think I may just do that :bounce:


Nice to have you along for the ride too Lemog :D

flyingP
04-22-2005, 10:54 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1114206838_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1114206838_large.jpg)

not to sure I will be keeping this, can't seem to get myself into it again and it's bugging the hell out of me, could really use some honest critic on this

JamesMK
04-22-2005, 11:47 PM
could really use some honest critic on this
Lame-assed old git steps up, waving a paint-over in the air:

http://web.telia.com/~u48040664/5849_paintover.jpg

Like that... a harsh crop (gets rid of some background and makes some nice proportions)... moved the whole servant bot to the left, more upclose to the master's face and giving a nicely balanced composition... and a nifty diagonal.... and a rather kinky distribution of negative space top-left bottom-right just like that.... merely a humble suggestion of course :D

flyingP
04-23-2005, 06:56 AM
Lame-assed old git steps up

considering you're only a year older than I am what does that make me........no....um... don't answer that :argh:

you do at least usually manage to come up with well thought out critique, not that I am going to agree with every thing here James you being a git and everything :D

I principle I agree with a crop though, the background is really only meant to be supportive but is starting to get in the way which I think has been bugging me most.

Really not sure about repositioning the bot like that however, don't forget the razor blade is coming back in there, and personally I feel moving him that close lowers the tension a bit, nor do I like the gap it leaves on the right :shrug: ....but I'll think about it all the same :)

What you have done though, and for which I am most grateful, was to darken up that light section above the master, actually all n all seems he darker this picture is the better it works (hehehe or have I just been playing Doom 3 too much lately :D )

anyone else have any thoughts ?

JamesMK
04-23-2005, 10:02 AM
considering you're only a year older than I am what does that make me........no....um... Well, that would make you

don't answer that :argh: Aw crap.

actually all n all seems he darker this picture is the better it works (hehehe or have I just been playing Doom 3 too much lately :D )Guess the darkness underlines focus on the important elements, and adds to the somewhat sad implications of the concept as such :wise:

flyingP
04-23-2005, 06:38 PM
Guess the darkness underlines focus on the important elements, and adds to the somewhat sad implications of the concept as such :wise:

dammit why don't I just paint the whole thing black :lightbulb :D actually to be honest I have never really tried anything this dark before...finding it kinda tricky....that and I really want to keep a bit of the rough quality from the sketch in there too....but then I am still learning too :D

Atwooki
04-23-2005, 11:27 PM
dammit why don't I just paint the whole thing black :lightbulb

Noooo... don't do that!! (unless darkness is the master and the servant is.....naaH!)Are you using masked Multiply layers over your base layers?
I usually find it easier to 'see' what's happening in a 'lNormal' mode, then use those layers to create masks on suitable multiply/darken layers later...All that stuff etc.

Keep it steaming, Brian, and watch your e-mail in a minute ;)

Chris

flyingP
04-24-2005, 10:57 AM
Noooo... don't do that!! (unless darkness is the master and the servant is.....naaH!)Are you using masked Multiply layers over your base layers?

nope just straight colour layers, one for the background, one for the servant, one for the master, and a rough line work layer on top set to low opacity for reference. (hahaha somehow that sounds like a verse from "baa baa black sheep")

and and many many thanks for those emails....most appreciated!! :thumbsup:

TheFirstAngel
04-25-2005, 05:59 AM
I agree with the sligth tonedown (or lightup) of elements that disappear int the depht of nowhere... is that green fog bck there? hmmm, maybe just work out a bit of attenuation into the colorfalloff, use less yellow in the far, to pull it less towards the cam. In general, make the background have a little less contrast to not consume the mainscene. hope that makes sense

Wabbit suggestion: tha wabbitcrop looks fine, the props work, but you loose a bit the sense for the nice scale.

considering you're only a year older than I am what does that make me........no....um...
uhm, uhhhm... dont wanna know.

Keep it up Brian, looking forward to your next update:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

flyingP
04-25-2005, 07:31 PM
thanks for the input Sacha.... I've at least got a few ideas now that I can have a bash at, just not so much time atm (again) it would seem :hmm:

pigwater
04-25-2005, 09:08 PM
hey FP .. how bout one more ... pushing the top of the servant back with a runner system and bring those cans in front out more

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as far as the other thing .. 1 pig year is like 12 wabbit years .. so, your still a little happy piglet

Squibbit
04-25-2005, 10:36 PM
squib help too

http://www.saunalahti.fi/panuom/brianedit3.jpg

flyingP
04-26-2005, 07:34 AM
squib help too

http://www.saunalahti.fi/panuom/brianedit3.jpg

of course that's it ........nut :D

And I am working on an update, may be the weekend before I can post though :shrug:

artemesia66
04-26-2005, 11:13 PM
FWIW, i think i like James's more cinematic crop of the scene, but i don't think i'd move the robot over--to my eye, it makes the composition too heavy on the left, and leaves a hole on the right. love the idea of hovering sub-servants.

flyingP
04-27-2005, 08:09 AM
thanks Janet, and yep I agree on all points....sorta....well maybe :D

flyingP
04-27-2005, 09:38 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1114591109_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1114591109_large.jpg)

having to start and stop on this is really not making things easy, this is sort of where I am at the moment though...still not happy with the balance of the whole thing but still hope to get it sorted out

LexLe
04-27-2005, 12:42 PM
Good!
Well!!!
Perfectly!!
Very much it is pleasant to me! :)

pigwater
04-27-2005, 01:40 PM
me think your thinkin to much .. the brighter background works ... & if i cover up the bottom right it balances out ... if that was brought out a touch more it might do it ... maybe your thoughts are already on he plane ... :shrug:

flyingP
04-27-2005, 01:57 PM
me think your thinkin to much .. yeah me too actually, I was hoping to keep some of the sketch quality in this, just typically the more one tries to do something like that the less it is likely to work....ahhh I'll get it sorted, something I was supposed to do next week has been moved back a few days, so I may even get some quality time to work on it :thumbsup:

gu
04-27-2005, 03:26 PM
Wow, very very amazing. I love the mechanism and the scene lighting. The volumetric lighting brings more life to the composition. congrats

Gus

Atwooki
04-28-2005, 12:02 AM
so I may even get some quality time to work on itThat's a stroke of goood luck Brian; and I'm confident you'll make the most of those precious hours - :wise:
Looking forward to your comping decision.

Chris

arkinet
04-28-2005, 12:16 AM
dude, i love your image as it is, sharp or blurry where it needs to be... great job!! i have nothing to say, its a fantasy world, you know :D

Kraull
04-28-2005, 03:36 AM
Hi there!
I really like the ambiance and the composition so far. About the balance of the image, the only thing that may be distracting is the 2 spot lights at the top-left. IMO, they attract too much attention. Great work so far! Love the chrome effect on the sphere.

blakbird
04-28-2005, 09:47 PM
This is excellent. One of my favourites. I think I will vote for it.

Samuraikuroi
04-29-2005, 11:32 PM
sehr nette kunst! Brian, Looks almost 3d. :thumbsup:

ilusiondigital
04-30-2005, 11:20 AM
Wohoooooooo, cooooooool image, congratulations for this jewel (I discover it today).

Good luck

Miyagu
04-30-2005, 06:12 PM
hi brian,

the new lights are adding a funny effect on the eye-movement.. kind of up and down.. like an "infinity-8".. :)

i love the strange mood of the whole picture.. with the extra lights or without.. i think it´s perfect :thumbsup:

*not very helpful, i know..:D*

flyingP
04-30-2005, 06:50 PM
thanks guys, just been having a long hard look at the last two updates I posted, think I may back to the version before I added the lights.... pretty sure I backed a copy up at the stage....er pretty sure..... somehow the mood was just a bit better, quite possible I'll crop it down a bit though. Just may have to rush into it at the end, next week is potentially quite full for me now it would seem :shrug:

jddog
05-04-2005, 08:45 AM
timing problem is mine too... I encourage you to finish it ! You made a excellent work until now FlyingP !
jdd

flyingP
05-04-2005, 09:01 AM
Thanks Julien I'll be trying to finish it over the next few days , the main job I was optioned for has been moved to next week so I will try and get this out of the way, just got a lot of other stuff to do with the planned move as well atm....

all the same expect an update in the next day or two :D

Cheers

Brian

flyingP
05-04-2005, 09:56 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1115240174_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5849/5849_1115240174_large.jpg)

still feeling a bit frustrated with this.

paulwdavidson
05-04-2005, 11:23 PM
Are you still not finished yet? :)


Cool work....as always

Paul

arkinet
05-05-2005, 12:30 AM
stil looking great....push!push!push! :scream:

flyingP
05-05-2005, 12:35 AM
Are you still not finished yet? :)



:cry: :cry: :banghead:

Miyagu
05-06-2005, 11:12 AM
looking very good! gogogo!!! :thumbsup:

TheMagnetic
05-06-2005, 11:17 AM
I have no idea at all what could frustate you about the piece man. The composition is correct. the lighing and painting are far beyond average. you dont see this kinda stuff that much man. I think that you should be easy on yourself. this is so so so good. I would add a pale glow to it in some places, a very small bottom or side light that had a color to it. but this is so good man. wow

flyingP
05-06-2005, 11:44 AM
I have no idea at all what could frustate you about the piece man. The composition is correct. the lighing and painting are far beyond average. you dont see this kinda stuff that much man. I think that you should be easy on yourself. this is so so so good. I would add a pale glow to it in some places, a very small bottom or side light that had a color to it. but this is so good man. wow


Thanks.

It's an emotional thing I guess, just sort of lost the feeling for some aspects of it :shrug: and that I find frustrating.

I've some time now so I'm working on it again :thumbsup: