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DimitrisLiatsos
03-22-2005, 09:44 AM
Dimitris Liatsos has entered the Master and Servant 3D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=5842)

Latest Update: Final Image: Final Image
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1116008650_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1116008650_large.jpg)

BETTER DIE FREE

Ares the Greek God of War is trying to tame his most beloved, strong and most unwilling to be taimed Amazon warrior, Mina. She has suffered a strong blow on the head from Ares ...it's her last chance ...she will obey ...or she will die.
She must not get up , she must kneel down and obey to him forever. She won't ....she is going to get up.
She will die ...

DimitrisLiatsos
03-22-2005, 09:45 AM
No..i couldn't resist ....:argh: :argh: .

Have fun all!

markovicd
03-22-2005, 09:46 AM
hellooooo greece ! :D

ace4016
03-22-2005, 09:48 AM
Haha, another heavy wieght. Good luck (especially on any boots:scream: ).

Lemog
03-22-2005, 09:58 AM
No..i couldn't resist ....:argh: :argh: .

Have fun all!

hahahahahaha... me too... it's stronger than me... this time... I think... no Lemog... you don't have time, you must do a lot of different things... you life if not only 3d... I know that... like you... and I've resist 10 seconds... 10 seconds, cause I've always problems to find the good link to enter in the challenge... ahahahahaha My crazy greeks nut... yeah... for the better and the worse... and also for the worse... the fun... and sex and rock'n roll... euh... and 3d... if remain us some time to do a better picture than the previous challenge... if it's possible... hahaha :scream:

Good luck Potatoe Man.... oups... we must find another great avatars :twisted: with potatoes or another beast like that... :banghead:

Squibbit
03-22-2005, 10:13 AM
:bounce::bounce: and :bounce: and the we go

monsitj
03-22-2005, 10:14 AM
wow! there you are! i'm very happy to meet old friend again here! now we have 2 month, hurry! keep update your work! good luck:thumbsup:

MDN67
03-22-2005, 10:24 AM
good luck dimitri :thumbsup:

tlggungor
03-22-2005, 10:29 AM
Good Luck my friend..:buttrock: :buttrock:

Squibbit
03-22-2005, 10:46 AM
Dimi , CLEAR UP YOUR PM box , can't send to u cause the box is full !

erilaz
03-22-2005, 10:59 AM
I love the way these challenges rip the great talents from their day-to-day and force them into showing us more of their crazy skills.

Get to it Dimitris!:D

mireneye
03-22-2005, 11:00 AM
Good luck Dimitri, it will be interesting to see what you will get cookin.

Kid-Mesh
03-22-2005, 11:02 AM
good luck dimitri cant wait to see what you do :twisted:

icedeyes
03-22-2005, 11:08 AM
Good luck dimitri... Bubble them up...

[Greek mode]
Makari na min ginoun ta idia me to proigoumeno challenge...
[/Greek mode]

flyingP
03-22-2005, 11:13 AM
just do a decent job of the boots this time :rolleyes:





:D :D

TheFirstAngel
03-22-2005, 11:18 AM
HELAS!
hahha, dimi, ain't you got something else to waste your time with? ;)

Just came to subscribe and wish you fun and best luck. Cheeeers

DimitrisLiatsos
03-22-2005, 12:12 PM
Hey boys and girls thank u very much ...it's nice to be around friends again....


@ piggy ...the are no boots ..at least visible on this one ...hahahahahahahaha :D

@ Sguibbit ...yews maaaster..i clean pm box right now....



@ .... Lemog, the1st_angel, icedeyes, mireneye, erilaz, -tolga-, markovicd. , Kid Mesh, ace4016...and err...(i hope didn't forget anyone ).... have fun guys .


:bounce:

My theme is very much inspired by BORIS & JULIA.......it's ready as a draft ..but i must ask admins if i can post it cause it may getting in copyright legal stuff or so....:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

i 'll get back to u soon as clear this matter.

scootermaya
03-22-2005, 12:50 PM
NNnnnnnoooooooooooooooo ! The other french nut is back !:eek: :eek: :eek:
Well as you said , no resistance is possible on this one !

Good luck on this one Dim' ... Aller DIMITRIS ! Aller DIMITRIS !:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

This is going to be fun ! (I hope :twisted: )

syb3r
03-22-2005, 01:03 PM
opa ellhnas ole. blepw pos se exoun se ektimish edw pera :-) . 8a h8ela poly na dw erga sou ka8os eimai sxetika kainourios sta cg. elpizw na ta xanapoume.

for them who dont understan greek I said to dimitris that im glad to meet a greek on the forum :-)

swag
03-22-2005, 03:14 PM
Dimitris again :) i hope you have the same motivation as last one
go go go

Micro26
03-22-2005, 03:19 PM
Dim best luck man. You re the best:scream:

mosconariz
03-22-2005, 03:23 PM
____________________________________ ©™®
Hi Dimi! Good to see you NUTS

tHIS cHaLLeNgE WILL BE REALY CRAAAAAAAAZEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIYYYYYYYYYY! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

scootermaya
03-22-2005, 03:44 PM
opa ellhnas ole. blepw pos se exoun se ektimish edw pera :-) . 8a h8ela poly na dw erga sou ka8os eimai sxetika kainourios sta cg. elpizw na ta xanapoume.

for them who dont understan greek I said to dimitris that im glad to meet a greek on the forum :-)

Yeah ! I got scared here ! I thought my computer was down ! :)

Climax
03-22-2005, 04:53 PM
• Hey there Bubblehead! I'm glad to find here!, are u ready to humilliate us again? :thumbsup:
Have lot of fun Dim, Cool we r coming all together again :beer: this is going to be great, and i can't wait to see ur wip and thread growing giant:buttrock:

DimitrisLiatsos
03-22-2005, 05:09 PM
@ scootermaya .....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Crazy Frenchy..... :scream:

@ syb3r ...Hi friend,...good to see more Greeks in this forum... :thumbsup:


@ swag ...i hope so too man...hahaha...u are in this yes?..i 'll go check in a while :bounce:


@ mosconariz ....yeah ...good to see u too man

@ Mr.Micro26...heeeey ...good luck man,...nuts stuff soon

@ Climax ....weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee......have fun man!!!


Bubble out ..for now

arturro
03-22-2005, 05:16 PM
and you too:)? your wife was bribed that she let you take part:)??

good luck and hope to see you getting the new computer:) I can take 3d max:twisted:

flaeticia
03-22-2005, 05:21 PM
Hey !

Dim !

I was sure ! It was certain: I had to find you here : a single thing to be wished you : good luck offcourse ! :thumbsup:

Versiden
03-22-2005, 05:42 PM
Dimitris, welcome to the challenge mate... I expect some great works here...
goodluck man!

coCoKNIght
03-22-2005, 06:03 PM
Dimitris you model machine! What's it gonna be this time? :)

JamesMK
03-22-2005, 06:20 PM
Aye! Ooga-booga!

Flappity flappity sproing!

Er... hold the boots.

JacquesPena
03-22-2005, 06:45 PM
Good Luck :thumbsup:

mv
03-22-2005, 07:33 PM
Wecome in the challenge, Mr.Nuts ! bring on the potatoes !

Virtuoso
03-22-2005, 08:05 PM
Dimi......Whats to say.......Can there be a challenge without you in it? There would be a large hole in it if you were'nt////so young warrior,get those challenge juices flowing like a river,and give us some eye candy.........Nice to see you again,and best to you and your creations......:arteest:

Gunilla
03-22-2005, 08:14 PM
Lot's of masters coming in to this ... nice to see you - will follow this thread :thumbsup:

mr_carl
03-22-2005, 08:27 PM
Hi Dimi.

Nice to se you in the challange.
I´m hoping to se some nutty stoff ass allways :thumbsup:

Carl.

jfelrod1960
03-22-2005, 08:38 PM
Good luck "D"! :thumbsup:

Lemog
03-23-2005, 05:58 AM
No story... no sketches here ??? what are U doeing BubbleMan ? are you always in your bed , remember, only 60 days ? hahahahahaha... sory mate... it's the beginning of the story... I quickly will tire myself :bounce:

Grimreaper1981
03-23-2005, 06:09 AM
Hi dimi, well good luck for this challenge....i'm sure you'll be in the first line again...:thumbsup:

jddog
03-23-2005, 06:53 AM
No..i couldn't resist ....:argh: :argh: .

Have fun all!

Have fun you too Dimitris and good luck !!!

jdd

Jezzarts
03-23-2005, 07:17 AM
I'm expecting big things! *pressure* good luck! - Jez

SUN
03-23-2005, 07:37 AM
....................................:bounce:
........................................................................

YESsssssss u r 3D insane :argh: :surprised :)

I wish you the bestttttttttttt:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
:bounce: :bounce:
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:bounce: ............................

linda
03-23-2005, 09:17 AM
Gia sou Dimitris! I just want to give my best wishes and good luck for you in this challange and i am looking forward to see what you will coming up with!!!

Goul
03-23-2005, 09:32 AM
This thread isn't started yet and it's already turning crazy... :D

Good luck for the challenge :thumbsup:

GMS-575
03-23-2005, 09:51 AM
Kali epitixia apo Germania. "olo to cgtalk einai mple, einai mple, einai mpleeeee" :buttrock:

First the EM2004, then the Olympics and know Dimi in the Challenge...:applause:

Greetings from Germany

ChrRambow
03-23-2005, 10:43 AM
Good luck to you Dimitris.
I am very interesting what you will come up with. :thumbsup:

Lordrych
03-23-2005, 10:58 AM
Good Luck DImitri I loved your Space opera Entry can't wait to see what you come up with!

Rych

DimitrisLiatsos
03-23-2005, 12:02 PM
Gasp :eek: !! U NUTS CGTALKERS ...if i start answering now ...i will finish late at night..lol...so

i will say to U ALL only this ...HEY STONGBAD ...I LOVE U! :scream:

Thanks for the warm welcome...it's really most motivating....although i can't start modeling anything just yet..i have some thoughts in mind (if i have any... :scream: )


Idea 1 ( This can't get out of my Head)

I know that it will sound very typical on the theme ..but i always wanted to model something inspired from BORIS and JULIA concepts and drawings...I found two of them that can help me visualize the idea ..(give me a brake in paiting i suck big time...i will have it ready until the weekend :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: )
I will try to give the most common story of Male Dominant over Female ...My main purpose is to capture the difficult body poses and give mood on the final image. It's a difficult task for me and i really want to push my skill further .

The Story

ARIS the Greek God of war is gathering from Amazon villages all over Greece the female infants . They are trained up their age of 20 how to become his Angels of Battle.
The main problem is that Amazons are from birtrh the most difficult and unwilling females..they hear noone and they don't take orders from anyone.

IN final Image

We see ARIS fighting in a room of his temple in Olympus with his most beloved pupil ...Mina who is also the most wild (in looks and in mind). I will try to caprture the moment where she takes a hard hit from Aris and fall down spitting blood while her ego is taking a hard punch...the sun is on top of the sky and the small fountain in front of Mina is filling with blood from her lips....She thinks now that the is no other way ..She will obey ..or she will die....

Excuse my ENGRISH...i really hope i will make something worthy of your worm welcome..

Posting soon my concept on this (i have to make something that it's descent and has no legal rights on Boris & Julia's work)


Have fun:bounce:


P.S. : No BOOTS INCLUDED in this :scream:

JamesMK
03-23-2005, 12:05 PM
Excuse my ENGRISH...i really hope i will make something worthy of your worm welcome..
Hey, I like your engrish. Not to mention welcoming worms. I just love that :D ... and no boots... phew...

DimitrisLiatsos
03-23-2005, 12:06 PM
:scream: Bastard ...i ment warm ..WARM.....bastard..:scream: :scream: :)

Grimreaper1981
03-23-2005, 12:06 PM
...No BOOTS INCLUDED...:scream:

you mean boobs, huh? :D

DimitrisLiatsos
03-23-2005, 12:09 PM
you mean boobs, huh? :D


:scream: ...u will see soon :wip: :wip: :wip:

Lemog
03-23-2005, 12:12 PM
Hey, I like your engrish. Not to mention welcoming worms. I just love that :D ... and no boots... phew...

hahahaha... when I read the Dimitris text... I believed that it was me which had written that... :scream: hahahaha...

mmmhh... sorry Dim... I'm worst zan you... but I know zat... :D

bealobo
03-23-2005, 12:12 PM
what a drama!

looks very interesting and emotional. Keep it up!

scootermaya
03-23-2005, 12:21 PM
J ! the English in this forum is really falling appart ! To bad I'm not here to lift it up !:shrug:
Ma frenglish iz az bad az Lemog's !

OK ! great concept , great story, great setup for the image...
sun, water, Greek mood in it ! I'm gonna love this one !
no boots but if there is some boobs it's ok with me ! :thumbsup:

Lemog
03-23-2005, 12:24 PM
Oups... when I try to speak english, I forget the most important... I love your idea Dim... as you know... I love mythology, greece, old monuments and boobs... that's will be greaks ! :thumbsup:

DimitrisLiatsos
03-23-2005, 12:24 PM
hahahah


De Engliz of ze foroom ar zuzt ok,....zome oozers have zis proble wiz ze languaze...like me ...argh argh!

elvis75k
03-23-2005, 12:42 PM
J ! the English in this forum is really falling appart ! To bad I'm not here to lift it up !:shrug:
Ma frenglish iz az bad az Lemog's !


well here i come! Never start or reply thread without errors :) Someone sometime get the ability to offend becouse of misleading things.. but hey i'm an artist not a poetry.. ok i try every time to find words on my pocket btw in the middle of the... i stop writing and reboot my machine (lol) - Glad to see you Dimitris - :D

TheFirstAngel
03-23-2005, 01:04 PM
me sa sharing proble wit enlis too. but at leas images no need words. gaaah. kali nichta

ArtisticVisions
03-23-2005, 02:29 PM
Cool-sounding concept. Judging from your last Challenge entry, it's going to look amazing.
Subscribed. :)

gpepper
03-23-2005, 02:34 PM
Should be great and U must win !:twisted:

Versiden
03-23-2005, 02:58 PM
sketches!!! :bounce:

your idea sounds really challenging, looking forward to see your progress

jfelrod1960
03-23-2005, 03:13 PM
The main problem is that Amazons are from birtrh the most difficult and unwilling females..they hear noone and they don't take orders from anyone.

My wife must be an Amazon woman! :scream:

scootermaya
03-23-2005, 03:21 PM
My wife must be an Amazon woman! :scream:

Hahahahaha huhuhuhu ! Sorry ! that's a good one :thumbsup: (hope she 's not watching this thread !):D

Megaforce
03-23-2005, 03:46 PM
Good luck Dimitri.......:thumbsup:

overcontrast
03-23-2005, 04:03 PM
hey Dimitris, nice to c u again good freind.... dude ur concept for the story is gr8, got force in it... wish u all the best with it... and hope to c some greattt bidies on this one :bounce: :thumbsup: :deal:

DimitrisLiatsos
03-23-2005, 04:16 PM
Thanks guys ..soon i will also post concepts on this... :wip:



My wife must be an Amazon woman! :scream:


AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHA...always concepts come from FACTS of real LIFE...here we just have the opportunity to reverse a bit reality....oops ...my wife ..got to go :argh: :argh:

Kaksht
03-23-2005, 04:34 PM
Hey hey, lookie here, Dimitris is also here :)
Good luck pal!

SUN
03-23-2005, 10:31 PM
Great story:thumbsup:

I love ancient Greek mythology
Power final Image with great future prospects
Amazon Woman for servant!!! XAxaxa:thumbsup: Very very interest
U r Lucky no woman in Judges :)

rattlesnake
03-23-2005, 10:58 PM
man youre here...finally i found u!...ok good luck man..ill be watching your art

Troof
03-23-2005, 11:21 PM
:scream: just when you think you had it good....lol

GL bro will be watching you =P

Climax
03-24-2005, 06:38 AM
• hahahahaha, There should be a funny award as well :scream:, Now stop reading and start posting! :D....ops! I shouldn't say that, once u start posting u never stop!!:bounce:

jdsb
03-24-2005, 06:41 AM
good luck...

vampeta
03-24-2005, 06:49 AM
Hi Master!
Nice to see you in here! :bounce::bounce::bounce:
Best luck to you!

See U
Alex

DimitrisLiatsos
03-24-2005, 10:03 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111662217_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111662217_large.jpg)

My thought on my little story about Greek God of War ARIS and his favourite but most
wild and stubborn pupil Amazon MINA.

Concept is just a photoshop collage based on Drawings from BORIS & JULIA.
This is posted only as concept to visualize my thoughts and for NOT any other reason.

Hope u like the idea
Comments and crits on my thoughts are welcomed.

Xtronik
03-24-2005, 10:12 AM
WOW! ...........
KINKY! :twisted: LOL

swag
03-24-2005, 10:37 AM
dimitris you have a link to the BORIS & JULIA painting ?
it looks like a classic iam waiting to see the sexy girl :eek:

Lemog
03-24-2005, 10:41 AM
Nice sketch for a good idea... but I prefer that the 2 chars are not in the same axes... I think that will be better for the composition... no ? I understand the choice of the male at the middle of the picture, as the king, the sun... maybe if you turn a little your scenery, the group turn to the left, you will have the woman more at right, to manage the better the space... that's only my feel Dim not a rule... and certainly you've good reason to do that... more man... more of your concept :bounce:

Kanga
03-24-2005, 10:45 AM
Damn good work for a 5 year old!

Good luck man :thumbsup:

scootermaya
03-24-2005, 10:46 AM
This is a nice setup Dim... One thing maybe, is that we are not going to see the expression of surrending on Mina's face. I think if tou can make it it would be very nice and really amplify the concept.

DimitrisLiatsos
03-24-2005, 11:02 AM
@ Xtronik ....hahahah ...i don't know about kinky ...but for sure i love like crazy the way that BORIS & JULIE visualize the human bodies in action....:love: :love:


@ swag..Sure man...
Boris Valejo and Julie Bell website (http://www.imaginistix.com/)
and i used specificaly these two images
for God Aris (http://www.imaginistix.com/details.cfm?Id=659)

For the Amazon (http://www.imaginistix.com/sketchdetails.cfm?Id=35)

@ Lemog ..u may be right my friend... i will experiment very much a -30 to +30 degree horizontal angle of camera in final image ...you are right in that maybe i have to show more of her face ...although my goal is to achieve to show the despair she feels ..on her body and pose of head and back...difficult i think...but that is why we are here ..yes? :)

@ Kanga ..hahahahha ..hey mann...hahaha..i remember..ahahah glad to see u here ..hope u are participating on this.... :bounce:

@scootermaya ..thanks crazy Frenchy ...as i said to Lemog ..u are right ..i will experiment on this very much....My goal in not easy ...we wil see as it goes :wip:

Scrat-D
03-24-2005, 11:08 AM
I'm sure you'll rock for once more Dimitri! Always with you man! I can't wait to see all of it! Greece is with you! :thumbsup: :buttrock:

Tremoside
03-24-2005, 11:09 AM
Girls-girls-girls....Hey ya where are the bubbles? BTW good to see you again!

Crazy nuttttmann..bubblepoweriser

sonicstrawbery
03-24-2005, 11:26 AM
Nice one, i keep an eye here

Kid-Mesh
03-24-2005, 12:48 PM
Nice start so far Dimitris, I've always enjoyed looking at your work!

Subscribing :thumbsup: and Good luck.

flaeticia
03-24-2005, 12:57 PM
Oh there that binds dimitris :thumbsup:
You are again going to crack everything!! :scream:
Good continuation to you :thumbsup:

Grimreaper1981
03-24-2005, 01:01 PM
Oh there that binds dimitris :thumbsup:
You are again going to crack everything!! :scream:
Good continuation to you :thumbsup:

full ack:D

wesclei3d
03-24-2005, 02:49 PM
hey guy, nice idea... i waiting for models eheheheh

good lucky

Neeno
03-24-2005, 03:21 PM
ay bro really enjoyyed ur GSO entry.. good luck with this one dude...

love the concept

scootermaya
03-24-2005, 03:30 PM
...
@scootermaya ..thanks crazy Frenchy ...as i said to Lemog ..u are right ..i will experiment on this very much....My goal in not easy ...we wil see as it goes :wip:
...


I'm sorry ! I don't understand Lemog's English ! :scream: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :p

Frenchy Pilou
03-24-2005, 07:16 PM
Aris (http://www.arisfc.gr/)
Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/)
Mina (http://www.mina.com/)
Olympus (http://www.dev.fotomatic-gr.com/olympus/index.html)
Are you sure of your Mythology story?
You are an hoaxer :D

Have fun challenge :cool:

DimitrisLiatsos
03-24-2005, 07:24 PM
Aris (http://www.arisfc.gr/)
Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/)
Mina (http://www.mina.com/)
Olympus (http://www.dev.fotomatic-gr.com/olympus/index.html)
Are you sure of your Mythology story?
You are an hoaxer :D

Have fun challenge :cool:


HAHAHAHAHAHHA...why all Frenchies come is a Big package which says NUTS - Beware...outside?

HAHAHAHAHAH...hi friend how are u...hahahah
:scream: :scream: :scream:

scootermaya
03-24-2005, 07:32 PM
Aris (http://www.arisfc.gr/)
Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/)
Mina (http://www.mina.com/)
Olympus (http://www.dev.fotomatic-gr.com/olympus/index.html)
Are you sure of your Mythology story?
You are an hoaxer :D

Have fun challenge :cool:

Waaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrfffffffffffff ! Those french guys ! They are all crazy nuts ! definitly !:bounce: :eek: :p :wip: :beer: :banghead:

ihamid
03-24-2005, 08:21 PM
thats a creatively combined concept .... ur gso was amazing ...this will be even better ...no doubts about it!:)

DimitrisLiatsos
03-25-2005, 12:28 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111757308_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111757308_large.jpg)

Starting on ARIS face...

Comments and crits are always welcomed.

Antropus
03-25-2005, 12:31 PM
Weeeeweeeeeweeee... I'm back you NUT greek!!! :deal:
This time we have less than 2 months, so :wip:

Cya fellow!
Kris

alex.h.
03-25-2005, 12:33 PM
i just now its going to be a great piece of art, see you and loking foreward for update. :thumbsup:

flaeticia
03-25-2005, 12:35 PM
Really very good beginning !
Continuous in this thrown !
My level in quoted, it is...
In brief here is what you understood me ! :blush: :thumbsup:

DimitrisLiatsos
03-25-2005, 12:35 PM
Heeeyyy Kris , how are u man? I still hate ya you know....nahhh.. i kinda like u really ! :p

Yes ...darn! time is less now...but hey, i think this is better !


Flaeticia....Lady! ...i love u French people when u speak English ...at least u speak them better than me ..waiting your updates Beautiful Frenchy Nut!


alex.h. ...Heeyy! ..thanks Alex...really liked your work on your avatar...:thumbsup::):thumbsup:

TheFirstAngel
03-25-2005, 12:44 PM
King Nutsos like to rock it rough as i see you started meshing out your world as well. Good start, as expected, no question, no crit, just awaiting the reign of zbrush.
ROck on Greek He:thumbsup: ro!

Grimreaper1981
03-25-2005, 12:49 PM
yeah, dimi started modeling...gimme gimme more:D

sonicstrawbery
03-25-2005, 12:54 PM
Us...French are nuts... no i don't think so......



:banghead::banghead::banghead::bounce::banghead::banghead::banghead:

Ok...i feel better now... hmmm you talked about zbush...so it's gonna be impressiv, i stay tuned :thumbsup:

DimitrisLiatsos
03-25-2005, 01:00 PM
@ cipher

waaahaaaaaa hahahahha.....i loved the " :banghead::banghead::banghead::bounce::banghead::banghead::banghead:

Ok...i feel better now" part ..hahahaha

flaeticia
03-25-2005, 01:01 PM
Flaeticia....Lady! ...i love u French people when u speak English ...at least u speak them better than me
thank you, but say that to my professor of English! Shes going to take you for a madman! :bounce:

..waiting your updates Beautiful Frenchy Nut!

I advance, slowly but I advance !
And how we say by to us " à l'aise et tranquille " // " comfortable, quiet! " :thumbsup:

Lemog
03-25-2005, 01:02 PM
Who is Nut here... certainly not us :banghead:

But let us to don't forget the main thing, dimi begin the modeling... the moment is solemn, I allows itself a small minute of meditation then. :)

AIR
03-25-2005, 01:03 PM
Hi,can't wait to see the final.
Whyl Im postin this,I wanna ask,does someone know is ok to use characters
from personal library created earlier,and modify them for the challenge.
I know this is not the faq area but,there it goes....

my master and servant


http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=222142

flaeticia
03-25-2005, 01:07 PM
Who is Nut here... certainly not us :banghead:

But let us to don't forget the main thing, dimi begin the modeling... the moment is solemn, I allows itself a small minute of meditation then. :)

ahahahah -> Work! :twisted: Take example on me, I just come to begin a .net developpement !

DimitrisLiatsos
03-25-2005, 01:08 PM
Hi,can't wait to see the final.
Whyl Im postin this,I wanna ask,does someone know is ok to use characters
from personal library created earlier,and modify them for the challenge.
I know this is not the faq area but,there it goes....

my master and servant


http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=222142


Hi friend...i think u can't ..and frankly there is no point in using a character from your library...the main idea of challenges is to work from scratch in a period of time and push your limits...

If u check anyway the FAQ u will see that the moderators say that u have to start from scratch - zero - zed - nada......hope i helped.

OZ
03-25-2005, 01:08 PM
SUPERCOOL CONCEPT!!!...i like it a lot! gosh!IS A SIN THAT YOU DONT ENTER IT TO THE 2D M&S CHALLENGE!!
ummh...cant wait to see some 3d!

OZ
03-25-2005, 01:11 PM
WOW! The 3d is cool!!...This thread is going to be VERY interesting!^_^

Reinier
03-25-2005, 01:12 PM
hehehurhurharhuuu its Dimitri. I followed your previous challenge with great interest and i'm going to do that again. :D

keep on rollin'

!S Reinier

jddog
03-25-2005, 01:41 PM
well... dimitris :thumbsup: a really cool start and sure that will come an amazing work !

jdd

TheFirstAngel
03-25-2005, 01:42 PM
forgot: happy brushing! i have a small sugestion: recently drink a bottle of ouzo or 2, so we have something to laugh too ;)

pitiwazou
03-25-2005, 01:47 PM
good beginning !!! xsi powwaaa ^^

add more edges for have a better low poly, I think, it is so limit at this time.

good luck ;)

overcontrast
03-25-2005, 02:01 PM
hey nice modeling start man!.....well the basic facial shape looks good, but its just the priliminary stage, cant tell much abt it, lets c what u show us next.... :bounce:

DimitrisLiatsos
03-25-2005, 02:26 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111764383_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111764383_large.jpg)

Working on this more...in ZB now ...
Don't comment on ears yet please..i know (bangs head on table)....i haven't touch that place ...i tottaly hate ears
...i will work on that last.


Comments and crits are welcomed.

YasushAzush
03-25-2005, 02:30 PM
just come to say hi and good luck to u mate

hands0nfire
03-25-2005, 02:32 PM
nice work so far as i can see with your model, I have the same problem which are the ears as well so I mostly try to do it dead last, but for the most good luck...

DimitrisLiatsos
03-25-2005, 02:37 PM
@ -OZ- ..hey ! how is my Italian Concept machine? i am happy to hear from u again my friend.
@ Reinier, jddog, pitiwazou ... :beer::beer:

@ the1st_angel ... OUZO ...wahhhhaaaa...question in how much time u felt your lips turning to solid rock...and ...wahhaaaaaaaa...how many days Headache...hahahaha:beer:


@ overcontrast ... hi man...nice to see ya again...like the new avatar. About model...don't worry i will experiment a lot i think :)

Neeno
03-25-2005, 02:40 PM
Lookin great dude.. I'll be watching.. good stuff so far...
plenty of work on the ears LoL...

DimitrisLiatsos
03-25-2005, 02:42 PM
I know ...:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

Thanks man


Hi visualact.com, hands0nfire :wavey:

flaeticia
03-25-2005, 02:46 PM
Ouaou : that leaves me without voice !
It is magnificent ! You tear any dimi :thumbsup: !

lotaH
03-25-2005, 02:51 PM
Ei, Dimitris...

Minus the ear, the model is great, very expressive... ;)

[]'s

gpepper
03-25-2005, 02:56 PM
cool !
Is it a zbrush contest ? everyone seems to use it !

rattlesnake
03-25-2005, 03:23 PM
hey dimi! this is an awesome modeling....really amazing...

sonicstrawbery
03-25-2005, 03:31 PM
what.. already on the road of the zbrushing..arf you killing me :thumbsup:

jddog
03-25-2005, 03:37 PM
holy **** and f*** *** ... this zbrushy app rocks... mmm I had think about it a day...

In any case :applause: really like to follow what you do Dimitris !

jdd

flyingP
03-25-2005, 03:38 PM
dammit and I thought I was subscribed to your thread seems I have missed a bit :hmm: .
anyway nice brushing :D

still wanna see the boots though :D :D

DimitrisLiatsos
03-25-2005, 03:42 PM
dammit and I thought I was subscribed to your thread seems I have missed a bit :hmm: .
anyway nice brushing :D

still wanna see the boots though :D :D


:eek:.....bastard ....(about the boots comment)...about all other ....happy to see ya man....i really hope u like it when finished.....:)


flaeticia, jddog, cipher, rattlesnake, lotaH ...thanks friends


gpepper ....ahahha u are probably right ...i 've seen some cool wips so far ..and most of them are with ZB.....hahahah:bounce:

jddog
03-25-2005, 03:46 PM
.....bastard ....(about the boots comment)

whahahahawhahahhawhhaha... + lol :scream:
jdd

monsitj
03-25-2005, 05:05 PM
Hi dimi! I lost in your thread and have to spend sometime to find your concept! great work as always! more updates!

TheFirstAngel
03-25-2005, 05:36 PM
shouldnt you be brushin some eastereggs those day? hahaha, great job mate, looking forward for more, nuts greek vertsrocker! Helas!

ace4016
03-25-2005, 05:42 PM
Already with the zbrush huh? I go to sleep "early" one night and look at what i find you did in just a few hours. I can't wait to see more.

Climax
03-25-2005, 05:51 PM
• Your Shaolin guy is looking good, so you hate ears?? yeah, now I know what I am gona give u in your birthday!:D

coCoKNIght
03-25-2005, 06:07 PM
As usual this is going at an incredible pace. Sorry if I'm unable to read through all comments and stuff, but there's anyway nothing to crit at the moment. All really good. Since when r u using zbrush? it seems that it makes you yet faster! :)

markovicd
03-25-2005, 06:43 PM
hey hey dimi , we didn`t agree that u send so good work! :D

great zbrushing!:)

Virtuoso
03-25-2005, 06:48 PM
Hi Dimi........I like your concept.This has a very strong classical theme,and can ,and I am sure will be strong in emotion and visual impact............:thumbsup:

Nice start on the modeling,the classic features are already coming through........Now for those ears.......Just kidding;) .......Nasty to create,we all know......Nice plan,and nice start on the modeling,keep it coming,as I know you will......:arteest:

DimitrisLiatsos
03-25-2005, 07:05 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111781122_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111781122_large.jpg)

...after many tests to approach the EAR thing...anyway ...this is where i am so far..


Also i made some adjustments here and there on face to make him more ..err...Master..

Comments and crits are welcomed.

flyingP
03-25-2005, 07:13 PM
I take it the ears are still :wip: ?

SheepFactory
03-25-2005, 07:15 PM
coming along nicely dimitris. the face still has that zbrushed look due to its bumpiness , In my opinion its best to use zbrush in small amounts and not go too detail crazy with it on things like human faces where the surface is smooth.

I'd model the ears seperately too if its giving you trouble , right now it doesnt look like a ear.

DimitrisLiatsos
03-25-2005, 07:15 PM
:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:...YES :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

.....................:D

tlggungor
03-25-2005, 07:18 PM
good modelling :):thumbsup:

DimitrisLiatsos
03-25-2005, 07:21 PM
Maybe Sheep Factory is right...i should try the ear separately and the attach it to Head...hmmm....good idea...:thumbsup:

Kid-Mesh
03-25-2005, 07:30 PM
Hey this looks great dimitri....Im confused though..so this is modeled with Zbrush?, I thought it was modeled poly style and Zbrush added as the displacement map :shrug:

jddog
03-25-2005, 07:36 PM
Maybe Sheep Factory is right...i should try the ear separately and the attach it to Head...hmmm....good idea...:thumbsup:

attach, uh ? special greek glue... ? ... yep they are a little bit strange... but the head modelling is really amazing :applause:

jdd

Grimreaper1981
03-25-2005, 08:45 PM
i'm sure you'll fix the probs with the ears...:thumbsup:

YasushAzush
03-25-2005, 08:49 PM
the ear should rotate 20' digree in the y axix to smooth atached to the head( my oponion)

markovicd
03-25-2005, 08:50 PM
ahhah he has piggy ears! :D please fix that! :D

YasushAzush
03-25-2005, 08:51 PM
sorry again wrong threat:scream: ops (the first one is yours dimit)

Squibbit
03-25-2005, 09:15 PM
wow he looks like he smelled something bad


juust kiddiiing :D

DimitrisLiatsos
03-25-2005, 09:25 PM
Hahahah..thanks guys ...i will try to fix the problem as soon as possible...
I am hooked now also with another thing that Sheep factory said ;

..the face still has that zbrushed look due to its bumpiness , In my opinion its best to use zbrush in small amounts and not go too detail crazy with it on things like human faces where the surface is smooth.

It seems that when model is imported back in XSI or MAYA ..this bumpiness tends to make the face look very ...bumpy :scream:....but when u have the character in certain distance i am thinking that it might help him show his emotions more (thinking final image here)...hmmm...interesting problem also....


:wip::wip::wip:

Versiden
03-25-2005, 10:15 PM
heya.. great update ..

as others have mentioned, the ears could use some adjustments..
otherwise, nice work

TheFirstAngel
03-25-2005, 10:29 PM
ears are a sitty piece to knock out. trick is to bring nuf polys into place where the main details run along in level 0. if that is not the case, build up detailing from level 0. slow. take your time. (if they look as the exceptional ugly ears i just done, work em.) ears suck. hahaha, too funny we actually rumble on the same problem. lol. if nothing helps, smove em away and start again. if its still not working, the seperate working out could be the best idea. if they still suck, make him something that covers them ;)

bealobo
03-25-2005, 10:32 PM
Your work is very good, and the concept is strong.
Wich colours do you have in mind?

H3rbie
03-25-2005, 10:41 PM
as others have mentioned the face looks a bit zbrushed. I think you should do as ali says and bring it in to zb as late as possible in the process and just add final details. Your wrinkles you have done on the side of the face suggests that there are fat pushing the skin out instead of counterstretching in the skin causing them..well fat patches pushing on other patches of fat...this makes the face look a bot wierd and this sort of blobby look. Try and think over the face and the structure underneath instead of going at it in blindness.

The ear well, do it in xsi or maya or what u use and dont zbrush it at all, there is really no need to imho.

Apart from that great job! Im just nitpicking and you should go with the look you have in your head and perhaps not listen to all this realistic nonsense :)

Keep on goin and looking forward to next update!

DimitrisLiatsos
03-25-2005, 11:32 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111797122_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111797122_large.jpg)

...hmmm ...i softened a bit all the face as Sheep Factory suggested ...(maybe it needs more really ...i have to take a look at it again tommorow).
You guys are right that ears shouldn't go in ZB but the idea of making it in ZB really got in my head...hehehe...
Anyway ..with some reference i fixed a bit it's scale and position ...sculpted it again and fixed the Jaw line to meet the line from ears....
I don't think i have to insist more since the angle we will see the character is that of the concept ...(but then again it sucks to run away from problems who need solving...arghh..
When it comes to model Mina (lady) i definitely am not going to make the same
mistake....So at least i learned something out of this today.Thanks so far for all comments.


Comments and crits are welcomed.

TheFirstAngel
03-25-2005, 11:39 PM
well, great progress so far. spent my time with a challengesightseeing so i better get back to wor now :D

zbrush is tricky hehe. well, i like his agressive attitude. thats what i'd expect from Ares.
hehe, go Dimi GO!

spirogyro
03-26-2005, 04:36 AM
Dimitri, beautiful start! Looks great, but the only critique that I have is, as also seen on other human heads you model, your jaw lines are very prominant. They're sticking out a little more than usual. I believe you should try softening up the area below the ear and see how it looks. Just an opinion. Geia file!:thumbsup:

flyingP
03-26-2005, 06:38 AM
yep they are looking better now ;) although I do also think you would find it easier to do them separately next time as well. :D

mr_carl
03-26-2005, 06:46 AM
Hi Dim :)

I think the ears looks fine but maby you shold try to make the top "stand" out more (Hope you undertand what I meen, not out from the head but lower the plse where the eare meets the head :D)
The jaw line makes him look verry maskuline and if thts youre gool you should stay with it.

It really looks great and I would like to see more really soon :applause:

Carl.

scootermaya
03-26-2005, 06:50 AM
Hi Dim :)

I think the ears looks fine but maby you shold try to make the top "stand" out more (Hope you undertand what I meen, not out from the head but lower the plse where the eare meets the head :D)
The jaw line makes him look verry maskuline and if thts youre gool you should stay with it.

It really looks great and I would like to see more really soon :applause:

Carl.
Agree with that !
Very good job Dim !:thumbsup:
The woman is going to be great as well ! I'm sure.

overcontrast
03-26-2005, 07:15 AM
hey dim, nice goin my good pal. I'm having great fun watching ur models grow. Till now it seems okay, but the ear needs a lot of works. and the head looks a bit elongated. I think u should work more in the eyebrow area. Well thats abt it for now. Keep updating man, great to have artists like u around..... :thumbsup: :bounce:

Reinier
03-26-2005, 07:45 AM
Moving along nicely Dimitri. The head looks "strong" which is a good thing :thumbsup:


~ Reinier

Climax
03-26-2005, 07:52 AM
• Yeah Dim, ears r ok, Anyway, you can allways hide them as you did with the boots of the royal guards in the last challenge:scream::scream::D....
hahahahaha, just kidding pal :) I think only Flying Pig didn't like the boots :D

Kid-Mesh
03-26-2005, 09:46 AM
My take on ears is this, there like fingerprints, no two sets the same imo. If it looks like an ear...it's and ear. Your model has so much character man, what a serious guy he seems to be. Excellent job...this contest is turning out to be a sales pitch for ZBrush for me!

sonicstrawbery
03-26-2005, 11:06 AM
the head is looking cool already, yes those ears are not yet well part of the head... they seems to be a bit big and strange...anyway you got a strong base with the head... Keep it uuuuuuuuup !

DimitrisLiatsos
03-26-2005, 07:41 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111869683_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111869683_large.jpg)

...Just starting modeling on ARIS body...with what else? ...a box ....half mirrored cloned ...and away we go...

I want to see far XSI's SubDs will take me...before i go to ZB...

Updating soon...

Virtuoso
03-26-2005, 07:46 PM
It really is just like a real World sculpture is'nt it........?


I like the idea of going as far as you can within XSI Dimi then taking it into Brush.......I feel the same about what I am doing.........Well keep chiseling away old challenge partner.....I like the promise of your concept very much.....:thumbsup:

dominicqwek
03-26-2005, 07:56 PM
Nice work dimi, you might wanna push back the chin a lil, seems like its jutting out, not anatomical incorrect but rather aethesticness.

Kid-Mesh
03-26-2005, 08:27 PM
Im seriously looking forward to this stage of your modeling due to the fact that im researching ZBrush throught this contest. Can you show what you actually used as a base in XSI once you goto Zbrush and then explain what Zbrush did to your base....sort of a before and after picture.

I hope im not putting any thing extra on you... just really interested in ZB and your model of course. :scream:

DimitrisLiatsos
03-26-2005, 09:48 PM
Hi friends...i want to thank u for the comments so far ...they were very helpfull.

All u guys who tell me about the chin...yup ...u are probably right ..it needs to sharp it's form a bit ..it has maybe too much volume near the ear...it needs to be..less fat in a sence (forgive my English)


As for posting the progress of this between XSI and ZBrush..sure ...i would anyway ...:bounce:

Kid-Mesh
03-26-2005, 11:02 PM
Thanks Dimitri :thumbsup:

DimitrisLiatsos
03-27-2005, 01:03 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111889035_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111889035_large.jpg)

...i didn't have much time today ..but at some point ..i kinda took what u see at left to ZB....and after 30-45 minutes i started screaming..ok...i must sleep...
(i know..i should work with more in XSI...but my wacom had different opinion on this..lol)


I would really like to hear your comments on this experiment....

Kid-Mesh
03-27-2005, 01:07 AM
I get it now, ZBrush is to a base mesh as Steroids is to the human body :D

Nicely done so far Dimitri.

Squibbit
03-27-2005, 01:33 AM
the torso seems maybe a bit short ?

Kanga
03-27-2005, 01:46 AM
Nice stuff Mr 5 year old! :thumbsup:

Make sure you have at least 3 loops for the joints so you can pose the thing later,.. unless you plan to do that in ZB too.

Keep it up!

DimitrisLiatsos
03-27-2005, 02:19 AM
Thanks guys ..but don't worry i am just experimenting...haven't really started at this...i am just trying to find the + and - of all this way...:wip::wip::wip:

Zlatan B.
03-27-2005, 02:33 AM
You ZB guys are unbelievable. Right now I am thinking about taking all my software and chucking it out of window. Great job.:thumbsup:

my stuff

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=223794

ChrRambow
03-27-2005, 09:26 AM
Oh man i need to try ZBrush ... great detailing ... i have to agree with Squibbit
The hip area where the legs connect to the body is a littlebit short.
Dragging down the pen... area could correct it :D

Good work ... :applause: :thumbsup:

Neeno
03-27-2005, 09:44 AM
looking really good dim... awesome man... i dont have access to z brish. wish i did... just using max7 deform tool.. it does the job.. anyways.. really good stuff man keep it up im watching

kmest
03-27-2005, 09:52 AM
hey demitris(morpeous)...long time no see...i knew you would join in this new challenge...
anyway...nice start...good model...
forward 2 C more :thumbsup:

DimitrisLiatsos
03-27-2005, 11:00 AM
@ Zlatan B. ...hahha..no man u won't throw your software ...hhahah...ZB just can get anywhere in your pipeline me thinks...:)


@ KoRn_ART ... hey friend ...how are u ?....Yes Squibbito - the little bastardo with wings is right...this test is something i did last night after finishing work...i wanted to see if i can go to full detail from ZB if i fix all poses in a reasonable detail before in XSI or Maya....i didn't use any ref so many things went of to proportions....:)
Some time ago Martin Kroll had made a model completely in the final pose ...that seems to me very challenging...i am going for a static piece here (no aninamtion ..ever) , so i think i will try to go this way.....maybe i realize in the proccess that i can't ...but this is why we are here ..to be challenged first from ourselves and then from others... :bounce:


@ Neeno ...thanks friend...Max7 deform tool works great ...look at Pascal Blance works ...

@ kmest ...hey man ..hahahah...how are u ...are u in this too? :)

kmest
03-27-2005, 11:15 AM
how can i not be????
the subject is perfect and many good artists has joind.....i cant loos this one as i did MACHINEFLESH(aarrrgggghhhh.... that damn job :banghead:)

bealobo
03-27-2005, 11:23 AM
hey Dimitri,

just a quick question, you´re bringing your models from xsi to zbrush to add detail, I guess you will render it in xsi so... at the point of bringing back the model... do you do it as it is with all the billions of polys or do you use normal maps?
thanks and as i said before, amazing work, keep it up

Squibbit
03-27-2005, 11:39 AM
haha, how can u be on the first page all the time ?
I never have to look elsewhere, hehe, got any
updates comin up ?

DimitrisLiatsos
03-27-2005, 11:45 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111927518_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111927518_large.jpg)

...fixed a bit Jaw line and bottom of ear ...I think i am pleased with this...

I want him to look meen and looking down at Amazon Lady with a Judgemental and a bit angry look..i have over done it in the masses at some points but i think it will help on the visual impact of his expresion in the final image...
Hope u like it ...and if u don't have any strong observations on his face i will now seriously srart the Upper body...

scootermaya
03-27-2005, 11:48 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111889035_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111889035_large.jpg)

...i didn't have much time today ..but at some point ..i kinda took what u see at left to ZB....and after 30-45 minutes i started screaming..ok...i must sleep...
(i know..i should work with more in XSI...but my wacom had different opinion on this..lol)


I would really like to hear your comments on this experiment....

I told you ! You like sweaty guys ! Hahahaha !
Prety cool the ZB experience ! Keep it thi way, it looks like you're going where you want !:thumbsup:

DimitrisLiatsos
03-27-2005, 11:54 AM
@ kmest ...hahahha ..i am going to look for your thread later :)..have fun man.

@ bealobo ... hi man...The matter of render is something i haven't tottaly decided yet...
My purpose is to use only XSI and ZBrush in this Challeneg 'cuase i really want to learn better those two apps....Billions ..no billions ..thousands yes ...hehehhe...i don't mind thought ...this is been works as an illustration 3d image ...static..so i don't mind if it goes to millions ...Normal mapping ?....well i am not so familiar in normal mapping and honestly i prefer to give time to XSI shaders(which i kinda am going crazy in love with) ...I maybe also try to go to NON-realistic render with this ...haven't decided yet..the main thing is the image to have strong emotional impact ....that's the main purpose...


@ Squibbit ...hahah updates ..yes ..slowly these days 'cuase of work ...but i take 1 - 2 hours for this every now and then...eheheh..i am starting the body carefully now that i have come to some conclussion about the pipeline i have to use....:)

DimitrisLiatsos
03-27-2005, 11:56 AM
I told you ! You like sweaty guys ! Hahahaha !....


hahahahahha ..Frenchy NUT ...hahahah...i am waiting to see what u are going to say from close when i come to Paris this summer...hahahahahah :twisted:

scootermaya
03-27-2005, 11:58 AM
hahahahahha ..Frenchy NUT ...hahahah...i am waiting to see what u are going to say from close when i come to Paris this summer...hahahahahah :twisted:

I gess we will talk it over a HUGE BEER !:beer: !

Cgkoko
03-27-2005, 03:09 PM
Way to go Mr Liats! Fire up Xsi. Nice theme and character. You know i'm waching you!

Kid-Mesh
03-27-2005, 03:13 PM
Face is killer man no crits here! Move on to that upper body :thumbsup:

TheFirstAngel
03-27-2005, 03:17 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111927518_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111927518_large.jpg)

fantastic work so far. not saying anything bout puffy ears, lol. go ahead! bring up that body!

DimitrisLiatsos
03-27-2005, 03:23 PM
ahahahahahah ....

Cgkoko ... fire up...fire up ..fire up (The Guy from THE CROW) ..hahahah nice to see ya man...


Kid Mesh ...thanks man..i 'll fix more as i go...


the1st_angel ....Buffy ears ...wahhhaaaa...i know ... i know i 'll fix them more...hahahaha:thumbsup::scream::thumbsup:

JHarford
03-27-2005, 03:24 PM
Good update , but i'd spend a little more time fixing some of the problems

The mouth , corners mainly and the small indent underneath.

ear

cheekbone anatomy.

Go Zbrush ! :)

DimitrisLiatsos
03-27-2005, 03:27 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111940822_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111940822_large.jpg)

To PUSH OP or not TO PUSH OP

Push operator in XSI ..is ..wahhaaa ..killing me ...

If i go to ,06 ... he looks like Mohamed Ali.....

U think he is better on the right?

AIR
03-27-2005, 03:32 PM
Hi man,I really like your Wip,U do that so studiosly,I'm learning from u.I'l try to post my work as u do from now on.Like from the low mesh to the detail finish,i need to work on that part of workflow,or whatever they call it.Keep'em posted. :)

flaeticia
03-27-2005, 03:32 PM
Dimitris, I really appreciate your work on this character. We feel through the lines of faces, the general mime, a character, which expresses a will (which I still ignore it) of whom we testify of it easily.
Except these first whimsical impressions, I find the saisant realism: we feel the master's degree of the subject, the master's degree of the organic, kept silent shows it to us by means of these magnificent images, which are here only the obliged passage towards a final picture, which as usual will leave me without voice :thumbsup:
Continue my big :bounce:

alex.h.
03-27-2005, 03:34 PM
they boutch look great so dimitries, its up to you, see you and :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

coCoKNIght
03-27-2005, 03:52 PM
apart of the ears, the corners of the mouth also look a little strange in the closeup. The body's coming along nicely. What happened Dimitris? Your modelling speed on past challenges was somewhat faster... :D :wip:

scootermaya
03-27-2005, 04:17 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111940822_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111940822_large.jpg)

To PUSH OP or not TO PUSH OP

Push operator in XSI ..is ..wahhaaa ..killing me ...

If i go to ,06 ... he looks like Mohamed Ali.....

U think he is better on the right?

Yep ! I find a stronger caractere on the right one ... I think it's better !
And your modeling is very nice as usual ! very acurate and powerfull ... are U also giving lessons when U come to Paris :bounce: ?

TheFirstAngel
03-27-2005, 04:22 PM
oh crazy greek,

right is the nuts way, i'd go for it. A wargod is expected to be unpredictable. and the more heroic the better. right one right one.:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

ps
03-27-2005, 04:33 PM
Amazing model :thumbsup:

Troof
03-27-2005, 04:36 PM
Wow hes coming along great...no crits here haha keep modeling!

jddog
03-27-2005, 04:54 PM
You are so fast... so cool until now, nothing to say... :wip:
jdd

DimitrisLiatsos
03-27-2005, 06:20 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111951225_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1111951225_large.jpg)

Where i have reached in ZBrush with ARIS up to now...When i import him back to XSI i will also experiment with the PUSH Operation..it's something that really gave more volume to the model of ARIS...


Comments and crits always been helpfull ...

petsoukos
03-27-2005, 06:25 PM
looks like a german WWII officer with those pants !

Just kidding! Great stuff Dimitri !

Sygxaritiria !

alex.h.
03-27-2005, 06:33 PM
looks great dimitris, maby move cloth down some on lower part of uper leg, so it looks like clotch is hanging (alitle), and some heavier creases. see you and :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Tremoside
03-27-2005, 07:01 PM
Hey, simply amazing, I like those muscles, especially the chest and neck area, pretty cool.

Nuts forever:buttrock:

Versiden
03-27-2005, 07:15 PM
hiya..

ZB is insane.. I think this challenge has proved that..

awesome update,
I think work on the back muscles a bit more, his trapezius muscles need a tad more definition, work on this calves too

JHarford
03-27-2005, 07:19 PM
\This challenge will show that zb is insanely fast, and great for 'art'.
Good stuff mate

Squibbit
03-27-2005, 07:31 PM
dude , that's impressive

Hooch
03-27-2005, 07:58 PM
And here comes trouble!

Good to see you inside this ship pal!

and the best of luck for us! :scream:

Nazirull
03-27-2005, 08:03 PM
Hie there friend!

Glad to see you here again...heavy-weighter!

Nice model! Reminds me of the Royal Guard from your GSO challenge!

DimitrisLiatsos
03-27-2005, 08:05 PM
Thanks guys ..i am happy u like the wip so far...

@ alex.h. ...heheh ..i am glad u see where i am heading with pants...yup i will do that ..i have also to add the BOOTS ..waahahahaha ....so more wrinkles and folds are needed there after the knee area...thanks man :)

Back Also needs some work where the back meets the shoulder and back of the hand..
Spine line needs to calm down a bit and also i have to work more on Latissimus dorsi more...(i don't know if i wrote this well...thanks Steven.S for that)

@ Tremoside, Versiden, stripe, Squibbit ...:beer: ...hahahah from what it seems hahahathis challenge has ZB at it's full load...from all over i see entries with this...that is nice for a change me thinks....but i will go to XSI also very much..need to feel more comfortable with it ....:banghead:


:)

gra7
03-27-2005, 08:08 PM
great model..
good luck brother..
waiting for more !! :rolleyes:

ArtisticVisions
03-27-2005, 08:37 PM
Mad wicked modelling, Dimitris. :thumbsup:

One question (been noticing this a lot with the Z-Brush modelers): does Z-Brush give the models that "grainy" bump to the mesh?

DimitrisLiatsos
03-27-2005, 08:39 PM
I don't know if i understood correctly but ...yes ..although u can avoid it ...in a degree me thinks..:)

ArtisticVisions
03-27-2005, 08:51 PM
I don't know if i understood correctly but ...yes ..although u can avoid it ...in a degree me thinks..
What I meant was that the surface of the model looked like you applied a Noise bump map to it. (Maybe that's just how it looks in the layout?)

Micro26
03-27-2005, 08:51 PM
your modeling so far is super as always, cant wait to see more dimi :thumbsup:

Climax
03-28-2005, 06:43 AM
• Looking Good Dim! seem zbrush is a good choice, I'll keep an eye as allways in this thread :argh:

sonicstrawbery
03-28-2005, 12:05 PM
The last update is really nice, the body is coming, that's great work Dimitris :thumbsup:

gpepper
03-28-2005, 12:52 PM
We Want More Xsi ! ;)

Scrat-D
03-28-2005, 01:02 PM
God Arisss ruuuuuuulllllezzzzzzzzz:twisted: ! Keep up Dimi great work! :thumbsup: :bounce:

DimitrisLiatsos
03-28-2005, 01:08 PM
Hahahha ... Yes my gpepper ...

Funny thing is someone mentioned that with that pants he looks like an SS killer ...that killed me :sad: ...so...i am going to more traditional (Ancient Greek sort of ) clothing... Trousers stop here....arghh...new update on clothes soon as possible.



ArtisticVisions ...oh i get it ..it's that shader ...a different one would erase that effect..


Mr Micro26, Climax, cipher, Hooch , gra7 , maranello55... :) :beer:



I have to think his clothes more ...i don't want to loose the Ancient Greek style...not much anyway :banghead:

jddog
03-28-2005, 01:14 PM
Dimitris... how you can work so fast... gosh... why I'm so slowly... becasue I'm swiss ? :scream: ... anyway I really like how your figures comes out: :applause: congrats

jdd

ps... what's avatar... you walk over jamesMK ? haha....

Kid-Mesh
03-28-2005, 01:18 PM
Its amazing how quickly things can done with ZBrush wow! Pants are very done Im really liking it.

AJ
03-28-2005, 01:19 PM
Ahhh Dimitris... I see you have become another one of these damn fast Z-brushers.

Things are looking good my friend - just don't work too quickly, it's not fair on the others!

flinder
03-28-2005, 01:29 PM
fantastic modeling so far. very nice work.

bealobo
03-28-2005, 01:42 PM
Wow, great work.
Are you adding more detail to the pants? like accesorize (?)
It is stunning.

Wintermute
03-28-2005, 01:48 PM
Damn fine work so far Dimitris, :buttrock:

My only crit on the ears would be to smooth the transition on the front edge of the ear into the side of the head, rather than bump it out like you have it. Killer work overall, the muscles look really good, he's definitely looking the part.

Regardless of that crit, I've never modeled an ear before! As somebody said, if you can't make it work, add something to cover it!

My only other question at this point is: How the heck are us non-zbrush users supposed to compete with that kind of detail and speed!?

I better get a lot faster in Blender-and quickly! :wip:

:beer:

SUN
03-28-2005, 01:50 PM
U r 3D art FACTORY my friend :) :)

Fantastic model and you make great presentation of your work.

But the god Αris does not look like greek god , face + trousers remind me oriental man
U want ancient greek statue style? If not your model is perfect.

P.S. Very nice new avatar :) :D :wip: :argh: :banghead:

AntonisF
03-28-2005, 01:51 PM
M Aresei H Doyleia Sou...alla Den Blepw Tipota To Prototypo...fa Mporouses Kalytero...keep Walking..


Tf

markovicd
03-28-2005, 02:01 PM
hey dimi great as usual! but i have one idea... he is a god , right!? :) why don`t u dress him more royal... u know ... like rich people in ancient days :D

SUN
03-28-2005, 02:07 PM
DimitrisLiatsos :
Funny thing is someone mentioned that with that pants he looks like an SS killer ...that killed me :sad: ...so...i am going to more traditional (Ancient Greek sort of ) clothing... Trousers stop here....arghh...new update on clothes soon as possible

Oupsss sorry i haven't seen that
......OK with trousers :)
.
.

madshooter
03-28-2005, 02:38 PM
Hi dimi, nice concept and your model is rocking. You are moving very fast, nice work dude.

Keep the good work going:thumbsup:

DimitrisLiatsos
03-28-2005, 06:55 PM
@ jddog ..no your are fast too..i am not fast ...just ZB is helping visualize anything very quikly ...about avatar...noooo...me , James and Piggy are in a Paint that Squibbit did...we are chased by a dragon with a lady warrion on..here

Squibbit's painting (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=214400)


@ Kid Mesh, bealobo, flinder ...thanks guys...Pants are leaving though ..i am going for a more "that time" visualisation...at least to a point ... :twisted:


@ AJ_23 ..aaaaa..the TOTORO man is here...how are u man....Ladies and Gendlemen...here is the BEST AVATAR of cgtalk....happy to hear from u man.

@ Wintermute ...Ear thing... :banghead: ...u are probably right ...i will try to fix it more when i am putting all stuff together in the scene ..i want to see if it needs the time or not..i can't say i have too much free time this challenge....so i am taking only the moste nessesary steps to it ... ZB is fast but i am not that fast ...u should see some other guys in this Challenge...that's fast ...but thanks anyway ...(not to mention that fast isn't always good..at least for me) :)

@ SUN ...hahah thanks man....as u have read..i will go for a bit more ancient look...no pants.....i really hope to finish this 'cuase i really want to see how far i can go with ZBrush and XSI....wish me luck...and i really hope u find some time.

@ TONY TF ...thanks man.....i am sorry if my work on this isn't very original in your eyes..if u have any better and more original idea ..don't hesitate ...say it :)

@ markovicd ...Ancient Greek and mainly GODS were wearing only CHLAMYS - XLAMIDA ...a sheet tide in a cross axial way..and in occasions something like a sheet from the waist down...i thing i will go for the second on ARES -ARIS God....BUT...with the Amazon MINA i will try my best to go as BORIS and JULIA paint it as a concept....


@ madshooter ....Hey man..good to see u


ok ..i have to :wip: :wip: a bit now...


Bubble out

flyingP
03-28-2005, 06:56 PM
so... I guess the boots are next then :curious: :D

Aethyrprime
03-28-2005, 06:56 PM
Very nice start man, Just stopping by to say good luck as if you needed it.. :)

Squibbit
03-28-2005, 06:57 PM
so... I guess the boots are next then :curious: :D

heeheehee..

DimitrisLiatsos
03-28-2005, 06:58 PM
hahahah ...no Harder ...feet in sandals ..his is going to be a nightmare...ahhahahahaha

rattlesnake
03-28-2005, 07:04 PM
hi mate...is looking very nice...good work...i think that he needs a bit more smoothing...go to a lower subdivs level and smooth some muscles...a very sightly touch...is not looking bad...is just personal feeling about it...anyway he is looking great !!

DaddyMack
03-28-2005, 07:37 PM
:argh: why do I keep torturing myself by coming to this thread...Seriously tho, love the way this is being built...Good luck with the sandals (and the comp too)

yeray
03-28-2005, 07:43 PM
very good, anatomically correct your character, it continues this way

kmest
03-28-2005, 07:53 PM
hey dimitris....this is going realy cool man :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:keep on.......
make it much much bigger than your last one....and remember:SIZE DOES MATTER:rolleyes::rolleyes:

and i didn't noticed you for a second....why did u change that OLD/FUNNY/LOVELY....avator?

lotaH
03-28-2005, 09:15 PM
hahahahahaha... me too... it's stronger than me... this time... I think... no Lemog... you don't have time, you must do a lot of different things... you life if not only 3d... I know that... like you... and I've resist 10 seconds... 10 seconds, cause I've always problems to find the good link to enter in the challenge... ahahahahaha My crazy greeks nut... yeah... for the better and the worse... and also for the worse... the fun... and sex and rock'n roll... euh... and 3d... if remain us some time to do a better picture than the previous challenge... if it's possible... hahaha :scream:

Good luck Potatoe Man.... oups... we must find another great avatars :twisted: with potatoes or another beast like that... :banghead:

Please!!! Don't stop. none of the two.

We have a lot to learn...heheheh

Dimitris - great masculine model. Congratulations. Please: details the texture, for that I can learn... (am I very abused??!!)... :curious:

[] ' s

DimitrisLiatsos
03-28-2005, 09:53 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1112050409_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5842/5842_1112050409_large.jpg)

...hmmm, i think this is better...?!?...more ...err... God(ish)...

Comments and crits are welcomed

alex.h.
03-28-2005, 10:10 PM
that looks great Dimitris, lokinng forward for next move mate. see you and :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

ace4016
03-29-2005, 12:34 AM
haha, nice skirt:D . Trying to hide the boots huh? I think it could be a bit higher though so he doesn't trip over his skirt in a fight.

Kid-Mesh
03-29-2005, 01:23 AM
Looking at your modeling skills one phrase does come to mind..."Are you my daddy?" :curious:

Hahaha just kidding, f'ckn wicked!

Wandddo
03-29-2005, 03:49 AM
Hey Dimitris, very well done model, man... I liked the anatomy!:thumbsup: Keep on...:D