Master and Servant 3D Entry: Martin Sen

[3dRaven]

Wow looks great Martin. Now that she's finaly rigged and posed. I'm real glad you how her proportions came out :thumbsup:

[Versiden]

DimitrisLiatsos, hehe.. ye I like the 2nd one too.. it flows more and has that sense of motion..

rattlesnake, 3dRaven.. thx guys.. really glad u like the progress ;-)

[Lemog]

yes... effectively, the last one is marvellous... very sensitive pose, a real pleasure for ou eyes... I hope you can keep this one... congratulations Martin :thumbsup:

[mecman]

yes, the last pose is very nice!!! the hair is amazing too!
keep it up mate!!

[CuneytGuclu]

:thumbsup: Exactly very nice concept and model friend. Even at this time I can see personality at face your character. Keep it up!

[Tremoside]

Martin,Martin...how you did this? She is so lovely in that pose. She is almost alive. So sensitive... Man it's inspiring to everyone :bowdown:

[arLutiK]

martin, very nice fairy you did there, great modeling

the only thing I have to say is the hip bone doesn't show enough, but thats me.

wonderful work :thumbsup:

[gpepper]

Great ! just great ! She is really nice ! Great expression of the pose ! :thumbsup:
Very nice Martin ! :applause:

[DaddyMack]

Hey Versiden, that last pose is a keeper man...Great model too, maybe tweek the pose of the fingers a bit more.
Keep the quality work coming :thumbsup:

[Maxko]

I love her face. MAN, GREAT WORK!

[monsitj]

yes , i agree the last pose is perfect!

[goktugg]

super update!!! again!...so pretty pose.:)
beautiful

[ace4016]

I like the second pose a lot, she looks helpless. Great poses and nice job on the rig.

[Neeno]

great pose and still as your playing with the rig on the right leg (her left) where the thigh meets the hip the bend looks a little wierd..other then that she is a fantastic and very clean model.. the pose look great once again.. good expression. keep it up..:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[aliasali]

Wow! that looks flawless! great! nice job!:thumbsup:

[rhin0]

i like the second pose a lot more than the fisrt! gret job!:thumbsup:

[AIR]

I see you didn't made far from my last time here at your thread.(day before yesterday):)
I like your fairy,looks so gentle,,but I guess that is the way it should be....

[Maxter]

Beautiful model and good spiritual pose:)
Good luck:thumbsup:

[arLutiK]

Hi Martin

Don't forget the most important thing with fairies, the fairy dust.

Great concept you got there.

[Rémy Malin]

Hi; Very very beautifull creature! Really nice

[pigwater]

beautiful .. i agree with the second pose as well ... it doesn't show off here nice face from that angle but i know everything is still in play ...

beautiful :thumbsup:

[overcontrast]

the pose is looking really sweet... but the hands r looking too skinny to me (guess its just me) and the pelvis>hip joint are looks like it could use some attention... but so far its going great... cant wait to c the finished product... keep up the good works mate :thumbsup:

[Firestorms]

really beatiful bro keep goin

[Versiden]

Lemog, Mecman, mmaxx, Tremoside, artutik, gpepper, DaddyMack, Maxko, monsitj, goktug, ace4016, Neeno, Madlight_1988, rhin0, A I R, Maxter, arlutik, Rémy Malin, pigwater, overcontrast, Firestorms

thx to all for the positive response, very overwhelming and very motivating..

to address some issues, yup.. the hip and the leg isn't perfect.. but I'm moving on otherwise I won't finish hehe.

My progress has been a bit slow the last 3 days due to this evil flu/cough/constant stream of snot, ulgh! ..

hopefully I can begin texturing this weekend

[3dRaven]

Get well :)...can't have the flu get in your way...fight it man :buttrock:

[authentic]

I always follow this thread who is growing better and better. Impatient to see rendering and final version.

[ace4016]

Second person with the flu in this challenge (that I know of). hmmmm. Lol, ok, enough conspiracy theory, hope you get better soon.

[monsitj]

Hi martin! your fairy is awesome! maybe you can increase her size in the whole composition , so your hard work will not disappear in final composition , top notch modeling too!:thumbsup:

[Aethyrprime]

Fantastic work Martin... I love this. The modeling is great.. Are you going to color her traditionally or make her glittery and sparkly!?

[Wandddo]

Wow wow wow wonderful work Martin! This fairy is very cute:love: everything is beautiful and very welldone too!! Keep on going friend I'm watching your updates:thumbsup:
See you man

[xric7]

very very beautiful work.
i'll wait to see more.
good luck
:thumbsup:

[Virtuoso]

Hi martin.......first off...your efforts are coming up wonderfully.....all is coming really nicely.....:arteest:


.......I got you're PM....I sent to you...but it showed no response,as if it never went out.....I sent twice.....Anyways I'll write it out here for you,in case you did'nt get it......

..............................................


.....I dont play around with Vray materials much......but I have experimented......This may be something you can look into....it's all about tweaking and experimenting...as always....


.....You need to set the reflection glossiness to something below 1.0 to get highlights.......


.............Specular highlights.......to get these.....set the Glossy parameter for the reflection to something below 1.0 and set the reflection color to something other than black....you might also want to "Uncheck" ....Trace reflections"...........if you just want the highlights and not true glossy reflections.......


....Ok hope this steers you in the right direction......Just ask if there are anymore questions....best of luck to you....see you soon.....:arteest:

[Versiden]

3dRaven, ace4016, almost there .. germs are nearly dead!

authentic.. heya, really appreciate the comment. It's coming along and progressing slowly ;p

monsitj, I'm planning on using it for a separate peice, so at least it's not wasted

||) |V| |^|, hehe... you'll have to wait and see I guess..

Wandddo, xric7, thx guys.. glad u like it..

Virtuoso.. hey, I got your msg.. thx.. I'll keep at it and see how it goes.. appreciate u coming back to me.. sweet

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1114873054_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1114873054_large.jpg)

wow, it's been ages since I've updated.. and only 18 days according to this timer.. scary!

here's my progress.. it's been a little slow and the learning curve for vray materials have been a bit tough ;(

this render took about 21minutes, lit with a omni (placed where the bottle is) and using the kitchen hdri (temporary).
The light is tinted yellow, which is giving the yellowie glows..

The bottle glass I finally figured out how to make transparent vray mat.. I just need to tweak the refraction settings to get it right.

Still left to do are textures on the bag, the coat and legs.

[jddog]

18 days... scary for me too...

hey but your render result is wonderful !!! :applause:
bravo !

jdd

[(o)ne]

looks very fine! :thumbsup:

[Lemog]

Incredible render for the girl... impressive... we perfectely feel the quality done... Congratulation Martin... I realy appreciate your fine work... next step now... :scream:

[eddieellis]

wow, that looks great my friend !... keep it up :thumbsup:

[AIR]

NIIIIIIICCEEEEEEE.Just great stuff martin,,,show us the final,,,,expectin it. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[melkao]

wow man the girl is great, and the glass is very real, and the clothes too....keeep it

[CryingHorn]

well, you've made some progress since I last time cheked your thread. Great job everything goes well indeed, very beautiful textures on cloths, the only crit would be the bottles IOR but since you said that you'll fix it so no more crit, great job keep it up :thumbsup:

[monsitj]

I really like this sharp render! nice update Martin , do u render in high resolution?
good luck! for 18 days left!:wise:

[markovicd]

great looking girl mate! i just don`t like her hair ( especially in front ) she looks like she was on Hemotherapy! :D

[Neeno]

:applause: what more can i say? this is coming along so whats the word naturally.. your image is so peaceful...... i like it very much versiden your doing a fantastic job.. i wish you all the best to finish on time! :thumbsup:

[smaddl]

great render! very pleasant and warm image :applause:

[mmoir]

Hey Martin,
The Girl looks fantastic, :thumbsup: :thumbsup: , the hair does seem to be in 2 pieces ,the individual pieces look great but they just don't seem to go together .

[Tremoside]

Wow! Martin, simply wonderful image you have! keep it up my friend time is short but you're on the right way to rock this place! best wishez to you and :buttrock:

[theuni]

Hi Martin,

you created there some really nice materials :thumbsup: Man am I jealously your so much ahead... and you're right this stupid time counter goes really fast :)

[Virtuoso]

Did you mention time martin.........Why did you go and do that.......?......With "17" days left.... and 25 days worth of work for me......;)

.......You got things in the bag.....and all looking top shelf........really quality piece on all fronts.....done with a fine touch,nicely done martin........Ok......see you as you move forward.....I think I got to get back into that lab........and fast.....;)

...............Well done Martin again,and best to you as you finish this fine entry up........:arteest:

[alexichabane]

Great job with your texture and lighting. Your image is very natural looking, and while the light (comming from the jar) is bright, it is not overpowering. I thinks the textures and colours you've chosen work very well and give the image a soft, story book feel. Great stuff, especially on the clothing and hair. Alexi

[goktugg]

i think,only...her left hand is ,a bit*so a bit* strange .but it doesn't a problem:)
her hair is looking so pretty*:) seems natural:thumbsup: ...her bag*her cloth also texturing are very beautiful.
lastly very well rendering*ligting ....:)

[Larsen]

Really nice work Versiden, i like your idea for this contest...and this last render looks pretty good, just keep this lighting setup ! :)

I'm looking forward for the fairies, keep it up man :thumbsup:

[3dRaven]

MArtin she look great on the last render. Real cute. Can't wait till you merge all this stuff together :thumbsup:

Didn't even notice the missing textures

[sl1200]

great render!:thumbsup: ,smooth modeling and natural lighting ,cool!

[gpepper]

U've done a really cool work at this time ! This should be a great piece of work ! Continue ! You have my support ! :thumbsup:

[Versiden]

thanks for the positive responses... jjdog, (o)ne, Lemog, eddiellis, A I R, melkao, markovicd., Neeno, smaddl, mmoir, Tremoside, theuni, cipher, 3dRaven, sl1200.. :) :)

the hair isn't perfect at the moment I know, it's divided up into 3 parts - right, left and fringe. I think what I'll do is correct alot of it in post, it's going to be easier that way instead of fighting with it and waiting for long renders ;p..

Crying horn - thx alot.. right now it's set to 1.55 IOR, but I'll keep tweaking it til it's better.. till then, I'll finish off the textures

monsitj - just for these wip images I render very low at 1024x 768.. is it too sharp? I haven't applied any sharpen filters in post..

goktug - what's wrong with the left hand. Is it the refraction coming off from the glass?

alexichabane - thanks alot for your comments, the things you've noticed really hit the mark. I was careful with the bottle light not to make it too intense, but intense enough for the fingers to be red.

Virtuoso - I'm not even close.. mountains of work still left to do.. I guess we're all in the same boat still ;( thanks for stopping by

[Versiden]

gpepper - oops.. missed your post. ;p.. thanks man.. ;p
hopefully I can make an update tonight.. but it's been a very lazy Sunday ;(

[gpepper]

gpepper - oops.. missed your post. ;p.. thanks man.. ;p(

that's not a problem ! You don't have to go to my post if I go to yours !
;)

[aliasali]

hey great versidan,! i loved the mood of the scene!:d

keep it up!:thumbsup:

[RhyderKey]

Hay there mate, i have managed to pop into a internet cafe, it's looking great keep up the great work, all the best

Rhyder

[Antropus]

Nice models Versiden! Looking forward to see all together :thumbsup:

Cya,
Kris

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1115051563_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1115051563_large.jpg)

think I'm pretty close to finishing the textures on the girl.. maybe a few minor tweaks..

I'm still undecided on the bag color, though you can't really see it with the lighting right now.. it's pink/purple and grey.

I'll set the transluceny on the fingers back on for the final.

Facial expression is still being worked on, still not final.. ;p

[monsitj]

nice model and nice lighting !! some point is , like you say it's not final , I think her black eye is too small , made her feel like frighten or something , and her finger that grab the bottle is strange( for me)
that's it , the orther are awesome!

[Versiden]

Madlight_1988, thx.. it's still premature tho and the final lighting setup is yet to be tackled

RhyderKey - y0 dude.. where u been? thanks for stopping by and glad u like it

Antropus, thx alot .. more to come ;p

monsitj - the iris of the eye? or the pupil .. hmm, I'll have a look at but I'm not sure if I really want to tweak it .. hehe, thx for your thoughts tho and fresh critism

[authentic]

Hello martin. As I already said you I think you got one of the most emotive picture.:applause:

I have one crit now I see the render picture with a wider angle. I'm not fond of the other bottle with servant near the girl. I think the attention of the spectator is "corrupted" even if it make a good lighting. I think the solution would be to let the bottle behind but with no faeries and light just to see it's the 1st of a series.
I must stop help people that would, with or without my advices, finish at a better place than me and go back to work but I'm a lazy man.:)

[WesleyTack]

very nice work!
one crit i had to mention though, the lower part of the legs seems way to thin.
I would really consider on making them a bit thicker.

[Versiden]

authentic - thx dude.. I had the same thoughts about that a while ago. Initially I wanted a few more captured fairies lying on the ground (like the sketch).. but I think the overall image will be too confuzing with multiple light sources everywhere. So I plan just to have them empty and scattered on the ground.. a story in itself of the effort in capturing 1

simon.wt - appreciate the comment ;p im afraid I'm way past tweaking the model ;( I guess it's personal taste but I'm totally 100% happy it.

[Dizzy Boy]

Hi Martin,

I'm seeing your thread for the first time and I can see that there is some cool work around here !!
Well, I'm in the chalenge too and just realise that both of us has a concept that is very "simlilar". Check it out: http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=234258


And good luck to you,

Dizzy Boy

[Versiden]

Hi Martin,

I'm seeing your thread for the first time and I can see that there is some cool work around here !!
Well, I'm in the chalenge too and just realise that both of us has a concept that is very "simlilar". Check it out: http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=234258


And good luck to you,

Dizzy Boy

hmmm.. took at look at your thread.. damn, you're right, I think the ideas are similar, but the motives of characters are way different. Argh.. but this is still an awkard thing between us now. ;(

[eddieellis]

not good, as you have nearly finished and he has just started !.... me thinks a concept change is in order

[Versiden]

ye... I'll just change concepts with 15 days to spare.. not a problem.. wait, april fools has already passed ;p

[eddieellis]

wasn't talking about you dude !

[Tremoside]

Mrtin she is lookin great. These gentle lights are workin fine to me! Maybe feet (shading or dirt) are a bit unusual, but environment is missin so i don't know about yet. Keep it up my friend and run for the final. This gonna be amazing!

[Adriano-Zanetti]

Very cute scene you chose here, very well achieved technicly, I dunno if I really feel the master/servant relation ship here... more hunter/hunted... but it is anyway very emotive, looking forward to see some more.

...those artifacts on the feet could do a great burnt/melting skin texture effect ...hmmm... let's keep that in mind...hehe:)

good luck !!

pe@ce

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1115145559_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1115145559_large.jpg)

I've been thinking about the layout.. initially I was going portrait, and I modelled the environment to suit it.. but im not sure on it lately..

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1115145688_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1115145688_large.jpg)

here's the landscape alternative.. I'm thinking it maybe be better as the characters fill the space more..

I'll have to do some more modelling in the scene to accomodate...

comments appreciated.

[Versiden]

Tremoside - it's dirt.. dried mud.. I suppose it will fit better in context in the final ;p

Adriano_Zanetti - I think what's so great about the theme is that it can be interpreted in so many ways and that it works on so many levels. The definition of master servant may be different for each of us, I think a servant is there to provide a service, whether willing or unwilling in the relationship depends on the story. Yes, while probably it's true there is that element of hunter/hunted .. I'm trying to capture those few minutes where master&servant roles come into play, even if it's for a short while, that relationship is met.
oh.. those artifacts are actually suppose to be mud.. hehe, no errors there :)

[Gunilla]

I think the lanscape version, but perhaps widen it a bit to the right. Some space in front of the characters could be good. Just an idea - I'm sure you solve it the best way :shrug:

This is really turning into a beautiful image - congrats!

[melkao]

hey nice composition.
maybe you would put some bugs and flys, to give more realism to the escenary:shrug:

[Kenzor]

Beautiful work.
The landscape version looks better IMO.
Good luck

[Lemog]

Well mate... landscape for sure... better diagonal way... :)

[KsiKsu]

why dont place a mirror in front of her wide spreaded legs :twisted: ? *blush*

[Versiden]

KsiKsu - I don't appreciate your immature comment at all

[jdsb]

thats very great work so far,cant wait for rendered images...all the best http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon13.gif

[ace4016]

I like the landscape camera, but I think the camera should poitn just a little bit to the left to get rid of some of the empty space on the right-hand side. Your almost there, keep it up:thumbsup: .

[Wandddo]

Hi Versiden!:) Really the landscape camera seems better... but I think you it could add more environment elements. keep on going friend :thumbsup:
see you

[Versiden]

jdsb, ace4016,Wandddo thanks for the comments.. intially the scene was modelled for the portrait... so moving onto landscape there are elements that are 'cut off' and missing... more to come ;p

[gpepper]

Great job Martin ! The landscape picture looks better for sure !

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1115325339_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1115325339_large.jpg)

here's the projection map I painted to create shadows in the scene.. I've got a spotlight above the scene with the projection map enabled

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1115325445_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1115325445_large.jpg)

here's a screenshot from my viewport just to give an idea...

addtional lighting is also with a hdri map and GI

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1115325723_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1115325723_large.jpg)

here's my dodgy rough comp just to test things out and keep me motivated..

Still lots of things to add into the environment, I'm going to spend the next week on environment and get it right.

comments welcome ;-p

[mmoir]

Martin,

This is going to look great when your characters and environment are combined:thumbsup: . Keep at it you are almost there.

[pseudonympending]

Your image is coming together very well, i'm looking forward to seeing it finished. Just two very minor, nit-picking points - I still reckon her heels are a little bit pointed and her feet look a little bit out of proportion with her head...

Good luck finishing it off.

[melkao]

yes man...very nice looks the girl in the escenary...but wheres the fairy?:shrug:

[aliasali]

Great work martin sen,i love the environment,thats cool,..they must be really amazing,when combined with the character....am lookin back for more.keep it up,:thumbsup:

[Larsen]

Nie work on the environnement, i also think the composition looks good like this... i like the dirty feet :scream:

:thumbsup:

[DaddyMack]

Wow versiden, I've been watching your thumbnail evolve over the weeks and thought it high time I see what you're doing... The subtle details like forearm muscle, kneecap, soft light around face and hand ...it all really works for me...and the composition looks great too:thumbsup: Good luck for the home stretch;)

[Virtuoso]

All the makings for a pleasant scene martin,that we know,and thus far you are reaching the potential you set out for yourself........I would suggest giving her feet a bit more overall size.....a touch,they seem a bit small in relation to the rest of her body and head......

............Other than that this is solid,and well done of course....nice touches and a nice pleasant piece........:arteest:

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1115547017_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1115547017_large.jpg)

textures for the environment so far.. alot still untextured.. this render is without GI and lighting isn't final. It will look a bit better when it's properly lit.. but I think it's looking promising so far..

cheerz

[GabrielW]

beautiful enviroment:) like in fairy tales:)

[aliasali]

Cool environment...Nice! Versidan ur scene is gonna be great! :thumbsup: keep it up.waitin for ur final,...

[Lemog]

Pretty cool environment Martin... nothing to crit for the moment... your work is really very pleasant to see... :thumbsup:

[ace4016]

Looking good Martin, and you say it looks better with lighting? I can't wait:bounce: . No critiques from me either, just keep ti up:thumbsup: .

[3dRaven]

Great texture work Martin :thumbsup: I especialy like the trees and grass :D. The lit version must look great.

[authentic]

That looks beautiful MArtin. Now waiting to see it with the girl...

[overcontrast]

the enveronment is soo sweet... i like the vegitaion.. with the right lighting u'll have an amazing image in ur sleeve :thumbsup: keep it up mate

[melkao]

hey man nice textures

[Versiden]

oops. double post

[Versiden]

argh the pressure.. too much to do, I thinking of deleting the grass all together and model some leafy/plant bushes instead ;(

dammit, and I still haven't textured fairies yet!

thanks for the support all.. im hoping I have enough time for this ;(

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Relax and go on man....if u stress yourself u will only make things difficult... :wip: :thumbsup:

[fellah]

i agree for the grass, to me it dosen't add anything atm(maybe on the rendertimes though ;) )
it dosent quite match the rest of the style as it is. I think that's mainly because it's so soft compared to the rest.

but you've done a damn fine work on the rest so far.. I'm looking forward to see your next update(s) and I hope you'll make it in time! would be a shame if you didn't after all this work... *pressure pressure*

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1115764748_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1115764748_large.jpg)

I\\\'ve modelled the tiny ground plants, i think it looks alot better to compliment the grass. The leaves are opacity mapped planes - no textures on them, just a diffuse colour for now.

more tweaks on the textures being worked on, especially the tree bark.. all on my todo list. Not happy with the flower arrangement, it will be changed ;p

comments welcome ;p

[monsitj]

yes , tree bump are awesome! and i think you should comp the girl in your image in Ps and mark area that need to work! it will reduce overowork , because something you have to blur out , add for ,add shadow to it , and maybe the girl and lighting from fairy bottle will be over it , such as your grass maybe it's look good after combine with orther element! good choice in rush hour like these ! hehehe

[melkao]

eeeeeeeee wow:eek:

[arLutiK]

Martin, really nice work on that environment, it's really looking nice.

[Neeno]

:applause: great work on the environment man.. very umm Natural..:D good work ... see ya soon!

[hhssuu]

Nice enviroment man, all the plants are so detailed, nice colours too. It's real and a little dreamy and fairyish, i like it. Keep it coming :thumbsup:

[Versiden]

monsitj - thx dude... ye, I'm testing with the girl in the scene also. You see that empty patch where there's just grass, that space is going to be covered, so I haven't done too much there.

melkao, arlutik, Neeno, hhssuu.. thx guys.. I'm going to try and finish the environment today so I can start on the fairy tomorrow

:D

[JustinLewers]

lush and pretty environment. Are you useing zbrush?

[Versiden]

lush and pretty environment. Are you useing zbrush?
Nope, just Max and photoshop

[Lemog]

Update very nice Martin... very clean... very sweet... we want more... :thumbsup:

[conundrum]

i really like the background update verisiden, great colours and vibrancy. the textures are also impressive especially without zbrush (i'm going to have to do the background the old-fashioned way too). one thing that stands out is the bareness of the ground, a little bit of variety in the colour of dirt and perhaps some tufts of grass around the place would be a nice touch. other than that ist some super work so far, i'm really looking forward to your final:thumbsup:

[Tremoside]

Ohhh Martin it's a beautiful shot! IThe composition is absolutely fits with your character just ad the mood is. Fine thoughts! No violent, not dark....I like these kind! It's a pleasure to watch! :beer:

[Versiden]

Tremoside, Lemog.. thx guys.. trying to get to the end result... but can only work a few hours each night.. The weekend is the only time I can really push!

conundrum - yeah I know, I'm going to add fallen leaves and stones/pebbles.. hope it will help a bit

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1115940581_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1115940581_large.jpg)

first start on the fairy wings... the veings took forever to do..

I will post the latest update on the environment tomorrow, the render takes a while so I'll run it when im sleeping - which is now.. haha..

cheerz

[3dRaven]

Great update Martin. Sweet dreams full of rendered fairies :D

[authentic]

That's a good start martin. I'm so impatient to see it finished.

[Lemog]

I agree with that.. very beautiful :thumbsup: no crits...

[ace4016]

Nice wings Martin, I can't wait to see thsi done, I just hope this piece makes it on time. Keep going, this is looking great.

[Dizzy Boy]

Hi martin,
It's funny because I was looking for dragonfly wings on the web just the other night;)
You did a very good job on that model :applause: Can't wait to see the your fairy...

Dizzy Boy

[DaddyMack]

Gorgeous wings Versiden... Good luck with the final details mate, your image really has a heart!

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116081689_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116081689_large.jpg)

last minute modelling.. props and stuff

[arLutiK]

Martin, those wings are just awesome, you really did an amazing job on them :thumbsup:

[mmoir]

Hey Martin,
The environment is looking excellent:thumbsup: , this is going to look great when everything is combined. Good luck finishing up.

[melkao]

wow man nice wings:thumbsup:

[Tremoside]

Hi Martin,

Hey some models...ok, but please don't go out of timeline..Your image is too good...Please GO :bounce: GO :bounce: GO :bounce: Am excited about you final! Best luck!

[Versiden]

arlutik, mmoir, melkao, Tremoside - thx guys ;p

I was hoping to show something by now... but nothing decent so far..I have rendered the background at high res, so at least I have 1 component of the final composite. That render took 6hours.. ;(

I've been trying to render the main character but running into vray exception errors... hopefully it rendered out ok by the time I get home

ciao

[Gunilla]

Beautiful wings - good luck with the rest, really looking forward to see this one :thumbsup:

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116291190_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116291190_large.jpg)

volume light pass

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116291630_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116291630_large.jpg)

rendered the environment..

color and lighting will be tweaked in PS

.. Is this timer right? 2 days left? I thought I had 1 day left??

[mmoir]

Hey Martin,
The environment is looking just great:thumbsup: , keep it coming.

[Lemog]

Perfect environment for me... :thumbsup: don't stop now mate and put the turbo-boost... :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116308823_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116308823_large.jpg)

What I've done to solve alot of the character lighting is to setup a large "board" with the render of the environment mapped onto it, and some illumination applied. This bounces light onto the character to give it a warmer light, instead of the cold blue/black lit side that I was getting..

hope im making sense ;p

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116309019_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116309019_large.jpg)

I've got the some of the main elements comp'd together. still alot to be corrected, there's a bad caustic shadow being created from the bottle that I must fix. Color must still be corrected in post, and foreground elements to be added

bye

[aliasali]

hey Martin Sen,ur coming along very well..that is great,iv got a suggestion,how about a wet ground?that can express it better,(maybe!)anyway,great.....keep it up:thumbsup:

[arLutiK]

Getting there Martin, really cool composition.:thumbsup:

[pigwater]

versiden .. great stuff .. meant to post on this earlier but ... but ... ... the nature part is fantastic ... that style really appeals to me ... just beautiful work

good luck with this beautiful work :thumbsup:

[monsitj]

yeah! i wait for long time for you to put it all together! nice render ,and I'm sure it will come out great! good luck!

[Versiden]

Madlight_1988, arlutik, pigwater - hey thx man... I'm just viewing it from the office.. it looks very different ;p... my monitor at home must need tweaking.

Madlight_1988.. that's a nice suggestion, I thought about it.. but must have slipped my mind. I don't think I have any time to implement it though. I kinda didn't budget for the long render times.. ;( The SSS on the hand took 4 hours.. painful man. Watching buckets render and not being able to do anything but wait.. ;(

[AIR]

The plants,growth,amazing,realy,just good,dont know what else to say.
It would be very sweet altogether.
Good luck finishin' Martin. :thumbsup:

[authentic]

great progress MArtin. The skin and clothes are really great.
I think the bg is a litlle too lighted to focus on the character. But it can depend on what you 'll put in the black area. My other crit would be about mud on the foot. It is a really good idea but for the moment I think more about burned foot that dirty one.

I can't wait tio sse the final picture. good luck !

[Versiden]

monsitj, thx..hope I can finish

A I R - yeh.. I think i spent too long on foilage.. but it came out nicely

authentic, I still need to tweak the colours.. right now it's just direct renders from max comp'd into PS. Ta for crits

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Go my friend...stop wasting time with us ...go finish your entry........don't loos e your time here now that u need your time most.....



Chop ..chop....:bounce:

[Tremoside]

Let' go Martin, just keep tweakin on this wonderful image! It's gonna be amazing! Like your kind characters and positive mood! feel sgood when i look at he image! Keep it up my friend:wavey:

[Versiden]

DimitrisLiatsos - argh.. I can't dude.. I'm stuck at work.. 8 hour day :banghead::banghead: lol, that's why im doing things last minute

Tremoside - thx for the support man

[(o)ne]

Image is very nice, I like the atmosphere :thumbsup: but maybe with a couple more trees in the shadows in bg it would be better?

[ilusiondigital]

Very beautiful, versiden. Good luck

[goktugg]

cool details!:thumbsup:

[smaddl]

very pleasant and sweet. good luck!

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116366986_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116366986_large.jpg)

I've added the foreground elements and the fairies.

fixed a few problems in photoshop that I didn't notice before, like clipping problems in odd places.

The colour I've tweaked slightly to give a warmer feel, the background I've also darkened slightly

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116367287_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116367287_large.jpg)

closeup of the fairy in the jar.. it's really tiny.. I'll need to fix the reflections on the glass since it doesn't really show too well

[Versiden]

(o)ne, ilusiondigital, goktug, smaddl - thanks alot guys.. your support is really motivating..

bbl

[3dRaven]

Where can I get a fairy like that only bigger :D

Don't forget to cut the volume light near her fingers (back of jar)

[arkinet]

beautiful bro, really beautiful!:thumbsup:

[ace4016]

I like it a lot:applause: . I just can't wait to see the final now:bounce: .

[Lemog]

Very nice and sweet... your art is :thumbsup:

[eddieellis]

awsome owrk dude... love the colour pallet :thumbsup:

[jddog]

beautiful... :wip: :applause:
jdd

[Virtuoso]

It's come together in a fine way Martin..... I wish you the best in these last touches........I'll be back for that final.Until then all the best of luck.......:arteest:

[Ludal]

Really nice !

The little problem is on the glass, it isn't enough visible to my mind...
Anyway, good work and nice ambiance man :thumbsup:

[melkao]

the fairy looks great you are almost done...good luck:thumbsup:

[hhssuu]

Wow the lighting really brings out hte details in all the plants and the colours are ver nice too. Love to see the final image. Well done.

[overcontrast]

hey this is very nice...i'll be waiting for the final.. hurry up

[(o)ne]

yes, glass could be more visible.. :)

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116451090_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116451090_large.jpg)

tweaks to the bottle main jar:

what I did was render out the jar separately in the kitchen hdri environment - because the main reason the glass wasn't showing was the lack of reflections. I then applied that render in Screen layer mode in Photoshop.

It gives a nice internally lit apparence too..

comments welcome .. will need to add more fairy dust

[Matt-Bortolino]

Terrific work- very clean models, textures & lighting. If you've got time, maybe you could see what the background looks like with more of a hint of foliage in the area behind the jar (& the refractions would boost the glassy appearance). Also maybe some oiliness/specular on the skin (perhaps just from a single point specular source, & a fractal map on the skin to break up the highlights, then screen this layer on top). Not essential though, & might be too realistic for this current slightly stylized appearance.

[Wandddo]

Wow Versiden, very nice work:applause: I liked a lot the light effects... I'll be back to see the final:) ... good luck mate:thumbsup:

[JRBRAZ]

Hi Martin. Really better the new render.

I´m just waiting for the final full image. Great Work. :thumbsup:

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116454327_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116454327_large.jpg)

I've painted more irregular hairs as the render was a bit too perfect

also added more fairy dust

specular adjusted.. I actually had a separate render of the specular alrdy.. I've tweaked it to some out slightly, I think the spec on the lips are a bit better now.. thx for crits 'mb

[Goro]

wow that looks great! The characters cloth is amazing!
Good luck and thnx for stopping by!

CHeers
Goro

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116458490_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116458490_large.jpg)

I think I'm pretty much done

here's some closeups

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116458637_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116458637_large.jpg)

though u can't really see it too well, the bag is called "Fairy Dust" .. hehe

[Versiden]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116459226_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5777/5777_1116459226_large.jpg)

ok, I think this is my final..not sure what else to add or fix

the background trees I\'ve made very faint, I wanted the bottle area clean and not confusing and busy..
I\'ve added some foreground vines on top with a slight blur..

....

[Zoox]

really nice work :thumbsup: I love the level of detial you have in the scene. and I really like the textures on the clothing. Good work and good luck too you :applause:

[lotaH]

Great, Man!!!

Good Luck! :thumbsup:

[melkao]

great finish martin...good luck:)

[mmoir]

Hey Martin,

This is an excellent image.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: You have really done a great job, I like the dirt on her feet and the textures on the clothing is great.
Good luck with this.

[Neeno]

:thumbsup: it was worth the work wasnt it?? awesome versiden... so peaceful and distinct from all other entries.. very nice.. all the best with the voting process ;) see ya mate

[rattlesnake]

hey mate...your image looks beautiful..u have the right color combination for it..i really like it friend...good job:thumbsup:

[jdsb]

beautifully lit and beautiful colors and compositional detail.all the besthttp://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[theuni]

Hi Martin,

really nice image you created...:thumbsup: I like the mood you "caught" in it. Even if no one would know the theme I bet the viewer would guess it only from watching your image. Great work... you got my vote !!!

[rwitzsche]

A beautifull image! I love all of your detail and the way the light goes through her hand. Good luck!

[Lemog]

You can keep your final like that Martin... impressive and very sensitive... a great quality of picture, very clean... a real rest for my eyes... you can be proud my friend... you win a challenge, there's no horrible monsters in your image :thumbsup:

[DaVee]

very nice, many sweetness. Sure it will charm the jury.
:thumbsup:
David.

[Gunilla]

Wonderful image, Martin! Very special and unique with this gentle mood - just great!

Good luck for the voting! :thumbsup:

[tuck]

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
congratulation on ur final image.
very beautiful piece.one of the best here.
best luck in contest.
cheers.

[ace4016]

Congrats! This is a great image. The enviroment really brings me back to childhood fairy tales, this looks like an excellent spot for fairy catching. This is the third challenge entry of yours i've seen, hope to see you in the next one to see a fourth. Good luck and best wishes.

[3dRaven]

Great work Martin. Love the idea of the little fairy at the side of the pic. Great texture work and nice atmosphere. Hope you go final soon :)

[gpepper]

Great image ! The details are amazing ! I didn't see the other fairy !
Nice work Martin ! :thumbsup:

[Versiden]

hey all.. thanks alot for the positive feedback.. I don't think it would have turned out as good if not for the crits.. looking back at the model in earlier back it just looked horrible, I'm glad for the resulting final.

for now I'm going to just chill for a bit.. then I'm going to texture the fairy properly and do it justice.. and I'll post it up

[3dRaven]

Congrats on making it in time :D

[DaddyMack]

Stunning Martin;) It reminds me of a classic illustration style of the days long passed... Congratulations on some truly refined work, and for the great subtlety of your gorgeous final image... Thanks for all the great input too;) See you round..

[AIR]

Hi Martin.GLAD TO SEE YOU MADE IT.
Very nice looking imagery you brought to us here.I like the idea of catching fairy,so
fantastic.Nothing to crit much,anything I could crit is insufficient and belongs to unnecessary fluff,so I'm Wishing you best of luck.SEEYA ARROUND.

[jddog]

:applause: you did it ! Very nice concept and image... will see the following part ;)

jdd

[MDN67]

very beautiful pic, i like the concept and the realization, good work and good luck for the end

[vampeta]

Beatifull Image!
Congratulations on your new Masterpiece http://www.kira-network.com/pics/vader.gif
May the force be with you (in the voting)

Cheers Alex

[alex.h.]

exellent work and congrats to a great image. see you mate and :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[pixelkeg]

Good job Martin, congrats on a great image.

[Vedrica]

Hey man. I love your work. Beautifull colors and choosed objects. Good luck.:thumbsup:

[goktugg]

... much pretty!seems perfect! very well environment*details. very well modelling* super texturing progress!
i would want to see a bit bigger fairy..:)because she seem so much pretty.but it is not important :)
i like your work! Nice Work.
Congratulations | Good luck *Martin*

[Wandddo]

Congrats Martin, you did a excellent work!:thumbsup: good luck mate:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
cya

[bealobo]

althought I havne´t been commenting here (so many people in the challenge) I´ve seen it often and you´ve done an amazing job, the final pic is full if details and special mood.
congratulations!

[Larsen]

Hey Martin, i haven'tfind some seconds to congratulate you, this image is really nice 1! :thumbsup:

I like the work you made this time, this piece is really original and has his little special thing that make it works ;)

Again congrats and good luck for the voting results :buttrock::buttrock:

[limousine]

I think you did great in all the steps but the final image have not the same impact. The servant (a very well developed model) is too small and show no details enough to understand what kind of creature is that for someone that is looking to your image for the first time. The pose is a little odd, maybe because of the anatomy of the knees and the feet that's really too small. The girl is not looking at the creature inside of the glass (she looks up). The cloth of her skirt doesn't show any folds and make this part unnatural.

I know that you worked hard for this image and I think it's good. It's just a shame that another people didn't notice this issues before. Good luck.

- limo

[Versiden]

3dRaven, DaddyMack, A I R, jddog, MDN67, vampeta, alex.h., pixelkeg, Vedrica, goktug, Wandddo, bealobo, cipher - hey guys, thanks for the overwhelming support. It has been a long 2months.. wish it could have been maybe 1 more week longer, but I'm pleased with the results. Good luck to all.

limousine - yup, it's unfortunate that the servant model is really tiny that none of the details really shine, but I had it in mind to use it for another image in my head so I'm glad I put in the efforts. As for the eye direction.. it may be a slight bit over.. (the eye rig from max actually looks beneath the bottle).. and in retrospect, I should have applied more SSS to the eye. Technical problems aside, I'm still happy with it, it's not perfect but I think the mood / relationship that I wanted to achieve is there. Thx for the crits.. always welcome ;-p

[alex.h.]

the mood and relationship is there mate, be happy, its great,more than great, almost perfect
see you and have a great evening, :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[pierrebixquert]

Hi Martin

Good idea :)
good work :thumbsup:

very mush luck

[blakbird]

Martin your entry's quality is very above the overall here. Good job. Thumbs up.:thumbsup:

[smaddl]

it so beautiful with such a tender care :applause: . good luck!

[rattlesnake]

Congratulations my friend...u made it to the finalists...u did a great art work .....looks beatiful!:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::arteest:

[gpepper]

5 TH

This is a really good news ! Nice work here my friend, but I told you already !
Happy cinema 4D !

[Lemog]

Respect for your art my friend Martin... your pure art is honored.... cheers :bounce: I'm really happy for you :thumbsup:

[Versiden]

omg, that's an awesome start to the gloom of monday..

thanks to all that supported the thread, I hoping for a h.mention.. I'm glad for the placing it got..

till the next one...:thumbsup:

[monsitj]

yeah! congratz! martin! I'm happy , your entry is my favourite , great work , and can't wait to see you in the next one!:thumbsup:

[Gunilla]

Congrats Martin, well deserved and no surprise for your placing. Beautiful image, one of my favourites. :thumbsup:

[authentic]

Well done martin. YOu finally got a prize and it's normal I think. Love the subject and feelings of your picture.

[Tremoside]

Congrats Martin! :bounce: :bounce: It's always a pleasure to work with you my friend! Well deserved! Keep the butterflies flyin'!! Have a nice summer, vacation, sleepin' time...all! So wish a huge smile! We'll meet next time too!


Mark

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Congrats man...i am happy for u ....always loved your clean modeling and cool design. :)

[Versiden]

@monsitj, Gunilla, authentic, Tremoside, DimitrisLiatsos - thx so much for the kind words, im honoured to be in a pool with such amazing artists such as yourselves and where talent is in abundance.

till the next time.. ciao

[jdsb]

congrats mate,you did an amazing and beautifull work.

[smaddl]

Congratulations Martin :thumbsup: well deserved. you'v created a beautiful and delicate image:applause: :applause:

[bealobo]

congratulations!:thumbsup:

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