PDA

View Full Version : Master and Servant 2D Entry: Matt Dixon


Pages : [1] 2

MattDixon
03-22-2005, 05:32 AM
Matt Dixon has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=5763)

Latest Update: Final Image: All done
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1116455796_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1116455796_large.jpg)

I just wanted to leave a note about the concept behind this pic and how it relates to the challenge topic. Some people seem a little confused as to which is master and servant. There's no correct answer. I've tried to leave things as open as possible, in the hope that people will find their own interpretation of the image; it's for you to decide.

For what it's worth, this was the idea in my head when I began -

'The Machine' represents adulthood - the spinning wheels and monotonous rhythm of a working life of responsibility and repetition. The child, obviously, represents our youth - shining with innocence and optimism before the inevitable fate waiting to swallow her up. The girl's hand is raised - is that in curiosity, or a gesture intended to halt to metal beast? The machine appears to smile - is that because the child has touched it's rusty heart, or in anticipation of a new slave to join the ranks already toiling upon it's back? We're all born to be servants, but each of us has the power to be master of the machine if we so choose.

I hope that makes sense to someone. If not, I've tried my best to paint something interesting to look at whatever story you see.

I've had fun working on my first CGTalk challenge and it's been great to watch so many wonderful artworks develop over the last few weeks. Now I'm off to get a beer. Cheers to everyone who's left comments and good luck to all the entrants! Hoorah!

duddlebug
03-22-2005, 07:25 AM
OooooOooH!! Mr.Dixon!!?

This is gonna be fun....

AlyFell
03-22-2005, 07:28 AM
Hehe! I'll stop running around soon! Good luck Mr Dixon!

Art2
03-22-2005, 07:34 AM
This is going to be good! I'll be watching. Good luck, as if you're going to need it...

Kyena
03-22-2005, 07:38 AM
g-luck Matt - leaving a mark to get updates on your thread :)

W-I-L
03-22-2005, 12:39 PM
good luck mate

bRyaN2003
03-22-2005, 12:39 PM
Waddup Matt Dawgs....
You kickin over in CA on the COWs and now you are gonna hand some asskickery here...

Bravo...

conundrum
03-22-2005, 01:04 PM
my sentiments exactly... good luck, im sure it will be a top entry and im certainly looking forward to it.

MattDixon
03-22-2005, 04:39 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1111513172_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1111513172_large.jpg)

Just searching around for something that 'sticks'. I've got the beginnings of a concept in my head, but I'm not sure exactly how it's going to work visually. Messy, huh? I don't really 'do' lines...

duddlebug
03-22-2005, 04:40 PM
Woohoo!! Love the big fella.... and the ickle-wickle wotsit really sets off the scale...

More!! More!!

MattDixon
03-22-2005, 04:42 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1111513319_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1111513319_large.jpg)

Playing with colour. These things always make more sense to me as a pattern of colours and values than lines, so this stage is more important to me than the scribbly linework.

mack72
03-22-2005, 04:42 PM
Nice start!(you're further on than me, at least you can make out your design. Mine looks like someone spilled ink into their underpants and then threw it out of a moving car!)


Looking forward to seeing this move on!

Best of luck!

AlyFell
03-22-2005, 04:43 PM
Gosh! This composition works really well already Matt! You may not do lines, but you do blobbles so well!

scorpier
03-22-2005, 04:44 PM
oou! that was one serious piece of nice consept!
Good luck with the challange!

duddlebug
03-22-2005, 04:44 PM
3 minutes between the two? When i said 'More!!' i expected a longer wait.

Show off.... :p

MattDixon
03-22-2005, 04:52 PM
Thanks for the comments ( and the nice welcome ). :)

This is still early stuff, and while the ideas in my head are starting to take shape now, I expect the image will change a great deal before the final. Still lots of ideas to play with - I don't like the symmetrical arrangement of this one, and I'd like a more dynamic viewpoint.

ravioli_rancher
03-22-2005, 06:48 PM
:bounce:

Cool concept of marching across a toxic planet every morning just to be eaten by work in the city. Or perhaps here work comes for the workers.

Hmmm. Sort of like prison labor.

Yikes.

I've changed my mind. Creepy concept. And well worth exploring.

paulwdavidson
03-22-2005, 07:21 PM
Very interesting indeed. I look forward to watching this one.


Paul

MattDixon
03-22-2005, 07:28 PM
Thanks, Rancher and Paul.

Perhaps I should explain the concept a bit. The Master here is 'The Machine' - a giant robot carrying a city of factories and office blocks on it's back. The Servant is, well...us, as represented by the tiny figure in the foreground. The whole thing is based on the premise that we're born to be slaves of 'The Machine', all of us cogs and wheels spinning round and round, driving the motors of industry, powering corporate and political ambitions with our very existence. I was trying to avoid cliche, but the Servant figure will probably be a child, partly to push the scale of the piece, but also to represent ourselves in that time of innocence before we become adults and take our place inside 'The Machine'.

All sounds a bit pretentious, doesn't it? Hehe - perhaps I'll be able to explain it better once I've thrashed out the visual aspect further. Though, to be honest, I'm generally uncomfortable discussing the ideas behind my paintings - I'd much rather the viewer drew their own conclusions from the image. Hopefully, this one will give you something to think about...

Don't worry though, my main motivation is to try and do something that looks 'cool'. ;)

uljanov
03-22-2005, 07:35 PM
that´s a great concept! i can't wait to see the steam swelling out that beast.

~uljanov

MattDixon
03-22-2005, 07:59 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1111525157_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1111525157_large.jpg)

This feels better. It's a more interesting composition, and gives a better sense of scale. The 'servant' is still too small to hold any worthwhile details though, so I might have to push the angle still further.

duddlebug
03-22-2005, 08:00 PM
I love it, Matt!!

The Big fella is lovely and chunky and the scale is pushed even further. And the little kid looks great tipping his head back to take in the view. And i'm not sure how important 'the details' would be. The 'suggestion' of the child may be enough..?

Fab...

dmonk
03-22-2005, 08:03 PM
Excellent composition. I love the idea!.

MattDixon
03-22-2005, 08:12 PM
Thanks, chaps.

Jonny - I agree, but there's an important detail that I want to show on the servant, that would need him to be just a little bit bigger, I think. Ooh, mysterious!

duddlebug
03-22-2005, 08:13 PM
oooOOooh... i'm intrigued...











.

Codexus
03-22-2005, 08:17 PM
Wow it's already looking great! :) The problem I see with this point of view is it's going to be difficult to show the emotions of the little guy making the master-servant relation difficult to read if we don't know the story behind it. But still this is awesome!

DyslexicDan
03-22-2005, 08:18 PM
What its like day two and you already have this nifty layout. What are you going to do with the sky?

MattDixon
03-22-2005, 08:25 PM
Jonny - Hehe.

Codexus - Fair point. I'm going to try a top-down viewpoint before I make a final decision, but I'm happy to have the child's face obscured - it eludes to the poor little chap's impending de-humanization by the adult existence contained with 'The Machine', see? I think enough emotion will be communicated in his stance, and some other little touches I'm toying with.

Dan - Not entirely sure yet. It's a bit of a dead area in this layout, so I'll see how I can fix that in future sketches. There will be some subtle background elements to be seen, but other than that it'll just be a blanket of smog and noxious fumes from 'The Machine', with a few patches of sunlight poking through.

Cerebr4l
03-22-2005, 08:34 PM
Very cool! I really love the scale and the style. The concept is very creative.

Squibbit
03-22-2005, 08:57 PM
nice artwork , dude :thumbsup:

NOOB!
03-22-2005, 09:37 PM
damn..impressive!

paulwdavidson
03-22-2005, 09:44 PM
Loving it already

bahman
03-22-2005, 10:05 PM
good contrast between master & slave size.

maybe in your robot's city some creatures are living?

good luck.

Shaykai
03-22-2005, 11:05 PM
I love it! A really great idea, :) I'm definitly looking forward to seeing the finished product on this one!

Shaykai

polybuilder
03-23-2005, 01:00 AM
Nice work. My favorite conscept out of the two (3D & 2D) challenges so far.:)

KOryH
03-23-2005, 01:18 AM
hey good luck matt.
I look forward to seeing how this turns out

Legolas S.M.
03-23-2005, 02:42 AM
This looks very promosing. I love it already.:thumbsup:

ravioli_rancher
03-23-2005, 06:24 AM
Matt,

Though it sounds as though you already have this hellscape by the muzzle, I feebly suggest adding a sibling Machine, perhaps one that isn't quite so noxious, but still eats little kids. Perhaps while its twin eats the innocent, it could eat the wicked.

Uh. No. That's dumb.

Nevermind.

Your sketches make me want to stick 'tater tots up the tailpipe of an Overhauler. Great work. :bounce:

mark-jenkins
03-23-2005, 08:03 AM
Nice concept Matt, I will be keeping an eye on this one! Reminds me of Battersea Power station. I go past it every day!

Johnlittle
03-23-2005, 08:42 AM
Exciting,cant wait for more.:thumbsup:

MrFreeman
03-23-2005, 09:03 AM
:thumbsup: Great start Mr. Dixon....this is gonna be good....

Wish I could get drawing, but will have to wait until tonight....

Good Luck and keep the great work coming :applause:

MVDB
03-23-2005, 09:21 AM
Great concept!
Love it! :thumbsup:

mack72
03-23-2005, 09:27 AM
Very tasty indeed. Can't wait to see some colour on it!

Jezzarts
03-23-2005, 11:47 AM
Very nice scale and emotion in your latest concept... awsome start. - jez

MattDixon
03-23-2005, 12:38 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1111585114_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1111585114_large.jpg)

Trying to develop things further, but not happy. Too close to the original viewpoint.

MattDixon
03-23-2005, 12:44 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1111585447_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1111585447_large.jpg)

This one I'm happier with. At least the servant is the size I was looking for. 'The Machine' is digging one of it's hands into the earth - a clumsy attempt to highlight the environmental damage caused by industry. Still not sure if I'm getting as good a sense of scale as I could, though.

duddlebug
03-23-2005, 12:44 PM
OooooOoooH!! AaaAAaaaaaaH!! Lovvvvvely!!

The contrast in the dark smoky textures of the Bot... and the little shining light of the kid is just great.

And the extra detail really adds scale...

Enayla
03-23-2005, 12:45 PM
D:

I like this a LOT. It has such a wonderful storytelling quality to it. You given the colour scheme any thought? (sorry, I'm just really curious)

AlyFell
03-23-2005, 12:48 PM
Oooh another update! I was just composing a message and you've kind of done what I was going to say anyway... duh! So much depth and imposingness... ness...

Velinov
03-23-2005, 12:52 PM
WOW, Matt!!! Impresive start. Nice concept.

MattDixon
03-23-2005, 12:55 PM
Thanks for the kind words, everyone.

Linda - Very, very, very muted, I think. I'm thinking about a very narrow palette of browns and grey, maybe bringing in a little bit of green here and there, and offset that with some bright patches in the sky. That scheme should take a few saturated accents from lights in the 'city' quite nicely. Of course, the area around the child will be bright and colourful and all optimistic and that. Once I'm happier with the perspective on the factories, I'll do a few colour roughs and see how it pans out.

Posh - Thanks, but I'm not convinced the factories really work at the moment. They're all arranged in a single plane. Need to break it up some more.

Ravioli - Good suggestion, but I'm having enough trouble getting the composition right with one bot, so I'll pretend I didn't read it. ;)

monsitj
03-23-2005, 01:21 PM
impressive ! your idea and composition is top !! :thumbsup:

paulwdavidson
03-23-2005, 01:24 PM
Outstanding..........a picture tells a 5 novel series!

Mouth open adds a lot as well.............very well concieved

Paul

JRBRAZ
03-23-2005, 01:30 PM
I love this idea. Really really good.

mack72
03-23-2005, 01:32 PM
Oh!Oh! It just keeps getting better! This is going to be good. Very good!

lanedaughtry
03-23-2005, 01:52 PM
I love the iconistic nature of this piece and how literal you are trying to be with the humanity/industry theme.

I think to further highlight the damage being done you could border the beast on the left and right just a little bit with some healthier looking something, sky, trees, whatever, and then have the top of the image devoted more to the smog and detritus being strewn by the back of the beast.

It would diminish it a bit in your composition but then you could also use that space to frame it a bit more.

Just a thought.

-L

Garma
03-23-2005, 01:56 PM
cool, matt, very cool. You're not gonna keep it in b&w are you? This one just begs for a moody sky and some green below or something.

looking forward to more!

flyingP
03-23-2005, 02:10 PM
Now that is cool, not quite sure if the sense of scale is really coming over yet, but think you should be able to get working.

really like it :bounce:

NOOB!
03-23-2005, 02:27 PM
damn right its getting there,i'm jelous!

madone01
03-23-2005, 02:34 PM
impresive work already many cant wait to see the finish love the scales ur working with :applause:

Tranchefeux
03-23-2005, 02:50 PM
Hi,
Glad to see your presence, you starts very extremely,
Good Luck

JasonChan
03-23-2005, 02:57 PM
It's looking great! If you really want some detail on that kid, you could maybe puch it further, using some kind of warped perspective. But it's obvious you know what you're doing :)

justsantiago
03-23-2005, 03:03 PM
You really work fast! amazing. i love the idea and the sketches are asolutely good. I think you can play with the composition and make the walking city look bigger bi making it come out of the frame in both sides instead as it is now where it lookks like its just comming in to the picture.

Gelroth
03-23-2005, 04:42 PM
Great start
I Like it :thumbsup:

whiterat
03-23-2005, 04:50 PM
good sense of scale....it is working, what I can see is the damage to the enviroment....and hard to read the relation master servant.. what I mean is I wonder who is who. I make my self clear?


Miguel Pizzo
my contest thread
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=222467

NOOB!
03-23-2005, 04:59 PM
You really work fast! amazing. i love the idea and the sketches are asolutely good. I think you can play with the composition and make the walking city look bigger bi making it come out of the frame in both sides instead as it is now where it lookks like its just comming in to the picture.

yeh that sounds like a good idea! make him seem HUGE!

Kid-Mesh
03-23-2005, 05:03 PM
This looks like its going to be fantastic, what a scary image though :twisted:

marcheen
03-23-2005, 05:12 PM
hello Matt, this is indeed an excellent idea. cant wait to see the detailed work. and like someone mentioned before it is hard to show the boys' expression but i guess it doesn't matter in this case since the boy is a symbol himself. otherwise it is normally hard to show the emotions of both sides in a dynamic piece.

theCloudmover
03-23-2005, 05:29 PM
NOW THIS is what I was hoping for!!!

A very unique take on the concept. I'll definitely follow this one.

Louieville
03-23-2005, 05:42 PM
I LOVE this one. Each revision just gets more and more dynamic, and I think the scale between the two characters is great!...I think you're goin in just the right direction, keep it goin!

XIA
03-23-2005, 06:46 PM
Damn! Mr. Dixon
This is for sure will be one of my most favorite to watch. Killer stuff so far mate.
:)

dougbot
03-23-2005, 07:04 PM
Awesome Matt. Very cool. I really like the size contrast. Cna't wait to see more.

MattDixon
03-23-2005, 08:22 PM
Thanks a lot for all your positive feedback, chaps. I really appreciate you taking the time to post, but it's a bit nerve-wracking knowing so many people are watching me work..!

justsantiago, NOOB! - Fair point on making the machine bigger, but to have it extending out of both sides of the canvas would make things a bit symmetrical, I feel. I've forced both arms outside the frame to help increase his mass at ground level, and I was hoping that a slight upward viewpoint would make him look huge, though I'm still wrestling with that one. ( See below )

miguel - You make yourself clear. I'm not too worried about making the master / servant relationship too obvious. In fact, I think I'd rather present a piece that encouraged the viewer to think about what they're looking at and draw their own conclusions.

MattDixon
03-23-2005, 08:32 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1111613541_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1111613541_large.jpg)

Still wrestling with the scale / perspective on the city. I think part of the problem previously was that the child was too big, which threw out the perspective on the factories, so I've moved the him a little further into the foreground and scaled him down slightly, and reworked the city to make it more chaotic. Unsure on the mouth - it makes the machine more threatening, but I'm concerned it gives this emotionless automaton to much personality.

Not planning to make any major changes to this design before I start to work it up - I think the problems that still exist can be resolved during painting - but I'm going to live with it for a few days to see if any other ideas wander along...

NOOB!
03-23-2005, 08:34 PM
:eek:

lovely!! can't wait to see more!!

Cerebr4l
03-23-2005, 08:34 PM
I'm really enjoying this thread, great work! Looks like I have my work cut out for me ;)

peterpop88
03-23-2005, 09:03 PM
Buddy this is top stuff, loving your style... and the alterations your making to each sketch are just making the piece better and better, If you continue on with this progress I'll be picking you for a top three finish... Keep up the good work

AirbORn
03-23-2005, 10:58 PM
Beautiful! I cannot express how inspired I am from just looking at this piece. One of the best I'v seen thus far. :) Keep up the great work!

NinjaA55N
03-23-2005, 11:07 PM
Amaizing concept.. and with ur well known technique, this will sure be one hell of a piece at the end. Im looking forward watching ur thread evolving. :)

teknotek83
03-23-2005, 11:21 PM
I really like the glow of the little guy. Makes him seem very angelic/innocent while the thing is monstrous and dirty. Looking great, man!

bwong
03-24-2005, 12:59 AM
Hmmm.. nice painting, I like the composition.. however, I'm also in agreement with Miguel, though I think you might be able to push the master slave relationship through the pose of the little guy, right now I'm not sure if the big guy is surprised by the light of the little guy or the big guy is going to crush him, though I know you said that you wanted the relationship very subtle.

Climax
03-24-2005, 02:04 AM
• Damn! your concept sketch really looks like a final image! Great start Matt! I like the concept!

MattDixon
03-24-2005, 05:30 AM
NOOB!, Cerebr4l, AirbORn, teknotek83, Climax - Thanks for the encouragement!

peterpop88 - Thanks, but don't jinx me just yet, eh? :D

bwong - Good! It might sound like a cop-out, but that's exactly what I was after at this stage. If the relationship is ambiguous at first glance, hopefully the viewer will want to gaze a little longer and deeper at the pic, looking for clues to help them decide who is the dominant force. Those details won't show up until the final piece, but I think there will be plenty of them...wether they make things more or less obvious remains to be seen, of course. ;)

Kyena
03-24-2005, 05:57 AM
That b/w concept sketch looks awesome.
I haven't read any of your explanation on purpose to see if I can get the idea behind the concept (in case you explained it)

To me it looks like the little boy represents us and the towering robot thing is either technology or technological advance? If so - I love the fact that you can't really make out who is the one in control - however the towering thing "looks" somehow more powerful - on the other hand David won against Goliath ;)

MattDixon
03-24-2005, 06:09 AM
Thankyou so much, Natascha - that was a really useful comment! No. Really, really, useful in fact.

I tried to explain the concept on page 2 of this thread, but I'd much rather people drew their own conclusions. Hopefully, everyone will interpet the image the way you have, because you've pretty much nailed it. You've made be very happy! :)

Kyena
03-24-2005, 06:21 AM
Awww - great I was of help :D

I can definately say from my point of view that you did an amazing job with not overdoing the idea. It's somehow subtle but still pretty visible if you look at the concept. And on top it does leave some space for the viewers own thoughts too.

One of my favourite threads and painting so far but that doesn't really surprise me :)

AndyH
03-24-2005, 06:27 AM
Great idea and good composition. I think you should go nuts with the scale of it - put the kid right in the foreground and have the factory waaaay in the distance shrouded in smog, but because of its scale, it still fills the back frame. Maybe use a low angle. The hands could then be super-detailed because theyre closer. The bottom third of the screen could be forest and greenery, and then the city feller could be looming over it, as if theres nothing but pollution beyond the forest. You could make a really impressive sense of scale with this one.
Dont mean to sound dumb, but which is the master and which is the servant? Cities and industries require people to function, and are a creation of mankind, yet people depend on city life and all its technology to prosper...

Ah well - Keep it up!

Riddick
03-24-2005, 06:43 AM
Wonderful picture!
I hope that you will have the time to finish this piece!

Great work, I'm not sure to participate now...

Arctis
03-24-2005, 10:01 AM
cool comp, Matt, really promising.
I'll keep an eye on your thread...

coldfront
03-24-2005, 11:12 AM
nice concept. really cool..

MDN67
03-24-2005, 11:29 AM
very good concept, i like it:thumbsup:

peterpop88
03-24-2005, 12:46 PM
peterpop88 - Thanks, but don't jinx me just yet, eh? :D


jinx? my friend that is no jinx. With that concept and your ability that's the least I could say. Yet in saying that the comp isn't finished and by no means should you rest, the competition is strong. Good luck Matt.

For my 2c worth, if I had to say anything. Looking at your composition I'll say it isn't clear what the brief was. I see two characters but is it obvious that one is the master and the other a servant? It looks like the 'big guy' is about to crush the 'little guy'. Perhaps include something that spells out who is the master and who is the servant, that could help. That's my 2c - I'm expecting change from that. :)

MattDixon
03-24-2005, 12:50 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1111672199_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1111672199_large.jpg)

I can't stop fiddling with it! Tweaked the city a bit, spreading it further into the sky to try and break the straight line I was seeing from top right to bottom left. Not quite ready to call it 'line art' just yet, though.

I've also thrown some colour onto the pic to see how my intended colour scheme is going to work. These aren't the actual colours you'll see in the pic, once they're mixed, applied with low opacity, and glazed over with other hues they'll probably appear quite different. Ordinarily, I just throw down some broad patches of colour under the sketch and get on with the painting from there, but I've tried to draw and paint what would normally just take place in my head for the purposes of the contest.

Aren't colours magic? The 'greens' at the bottom of the pic are actually yellows if you colour pick them. Aaaah...

duddlebug
03-24-2005, 12:54 PM
That's great!!

I'm not sure about all the little flares that tell the big guy where the kid is... they are flares aren't they? :p

AlyFell
03-24-2005, 01:04 PM
I really really like the lighting coming from the left. It's definitely got a brooding industrial feel to it, like the creature/robot is looming out of a slight mist! This is looking fab!

dmonk
03-24-2005, 01:21 PM
I'm also enjoying the one on the left, it's very dynamic.

ChrisThatGuy
03-24-2005, 01:52 PM
Oooooh, I like the composition in the newest one.

anilduran
03-24-2005, 02:30 PM
hi man,
it's a very interesting and moreover utopian concept...
i'm looking forward to see your next steps....

JasonChan
03-24-2005, 02:42 PM
It's looking awesome! Wonderful mood and atmosphere.

Velinov
03-24-2005, 02:53 PM
Pretty amayzing pice of art. That image gona be my favorit if I've got to rate it. Go on ... I'll keep looking for your next posts. Good luck :thumbsup:


My Master and Servant (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=221933)
--------------------------
www.velinov.com (http://www.velinov.com)

MattDixon
03-24-2005, 07:29 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1111696175_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1111696175_large.jpg)

Quick paint over the last sketch to try out the colour scheme. It's not working for me. I think it's the saturated colours in the sky that spoil it - the kid should be surrounded with the most saturated colours, with the sky more muted.

XIA
03-24-2005, 07:39 PM
Pretty Damn nice Matt! Woot! I love everything about it already.

Stewart08
03-24-2005, 07:49 PM
wow this is coming together nicely, really love the concept.

teknotek83
03-24-2005, 07:52 PM
Man, those colors really make the image pop! NEAT!:thumbsup:

goktugg
03-24-2005, 07:59 PM
hi, ~MattDixon!

first of all Good Luck...
your last Colour sketch is really nice,i think
i`m looking forward to seeing your next WIP's.

(http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=222784)

AlyFell
03-24-2005, 08:27 PM
Flippin' 'eck Matt! This is getting more powerful by the minute.... One thing, and I'm being a bit pre-whatsit, but I reckon the light would look good passing through the smoke from the chimchiminnys. It was sort of hinted at in the previous rough coloured version...

mack72
03-24-2005, 08:32 PM
Hey Matt, this is really starting to take shape! I see what you mean about the saturated sky. Why don't you try and fade the colour out, the further away from the little figure you get. Almost to the point where the there is only the slightest hint of colour in the sky and the top of the industrial behemoth creature.

Still kicking some serious arse though! Keep it up!

Integrity
03-24-2005, 08:47 PM
You constantly are indirectly encouraging members to decide on their own deciphering of your piece, so quite simply I'm going to do that.

When I first saw the thumbnail of your latest WIP, I was attracted to it because of THE SCALE. The predominance left my eye's in awe. The city on top of the back, almost hindering the massive machine and making it hover over the being made me at first think it was the Master...but after further freedom of my looking, I saw the maybe it could be the other way around. I love the fact that the being (I don't know what else to call it)...is giving off light. It's like the machine is in awe of it...thus reversing the situation making the being the Master. It's like we may live in these gigantic cities that are driven by machines; almost giving them consciousness...but in the end...WE CREATED THEM. To me the light coming from the being is our symbol of heart and creation. And the scale just adds to it...reversing the thought that smallness matters just gave it theme. I don't know but that's what I got from it.

Overall I love your piece...and like all who have already given hope...I wish you the best of luck in your work.

NOOB!
03-24-2005, 09:29 PM
holy crap,this looks amazing,words can not discribe the brilliance...actually...they can

BRILLIANT!

keep goin!

nenne
03-24-2005, 09:38 PM
Love the concept.. :)

beelow
03-24-2005, 09:49 PM
this is looking way cool. good stuff. I will keep up with this one and see how it turns out.

Wussie
03-24-2005, 10:33 PM
i agree with you on the sky, i'd make it a bunch darker if i were you...

otherwise, i'm still uberimpressed with your sketching skills :| i can only hope my final image achieves that kind of quality :x

good job and good luck ;)

pushav
03-24-2005, 11:22 PM
um........... wow:buttrock:

redehlert
03-25-2005, 12:27 AM
Wow Matt! That's one stellar piece. A lot of emotion going on there....you're my hero!

Cheers!
D

ozhaver
03-25-2005, 01:44 AM
I really like the detail and light play. The curves are looking fine! I would like to see the whole hand (at our left) though.

ms@zx
03-25-2005, 02:16 AM
just awesome!!the greyscale sketch is already a stunning piece..not to mention the colored version.fantastic stuff matt~!:thumbsup:

NinjaA55N
03-25-2005, 10:16 AM
big and small relationships allways works well visually.. and this is no exeption. No crtis at all. :)

sidchagan
03-25-2005, 10:53 PM
Good stuff. I disagree with you about the sky coloring, I think its actually done very well, despite using brighter colors. The scale of the piece seems nice as well. Lookin forward to more.

MattDixon
03-28-2005, 06:16 AM
Thanks, all.

Integrity - It's so useful to read what you 'see' when you look at the pic. Thankyou very much.

oz haver - The hand is deliberately pushed out of frame to try and make the machine look more massive, but I've been wondering myself how effective that is. My next step is to complete my 'linework' milestone, so I'll be re-drawing the pic to try and solve all those little niggles, but I'm not sure if I can bring the hand fully into view without messing up the rest of the composition.

MattDixon
03-28-2005, 06:23 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1111994607_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1111994607_large.jpg)

This is more what I originally had in mind when I drew the sketch. It's a less interesting scheme than my last attempt, but I think it serves the composition better - throwing the machine forward and giving it more volume against the more muted sky. The final render would have more variation in hue than you see here, but this generally simplified palette should take accent colours ( lights in the city, for example ) much more effectively than the last one.

arLutiK
03-28-2005, 07:07 AM
Very nice artwork, love the lighting.

R-K
03-28-2005, 07:19 AM
neat color scheme, I like how the bronze and green works together. You might want to enlarge that little thing a bit - not sure what it is at the moment :)

Natethor
03-28-2005, 07:23 AM
Real nice.That size contrast tells it all,in a strange way.

Ant4d
03-28-2005, 07:35 AM
this is such a nice work. amazing. great idea and beautifully sketched.. i really like your first idea sketches as well. keep it up my friend. :)

Claireabella
03-28-2005, 08:01 AM
Hi Matt. An amazing piece of artwork. Nothing to add other than I'm looking forward to seeing the final piece. :bounce: Claireabella

BaronImpossible
03-28-2005, 08:31 AM
It's looking great. I think you were right to mute the colours because although the one before had a "nicer" sky, it took attention away from the... the jelly-baby dude. Look forward to seeing how you handle that lighting, and it's informative to see how you refine your image but manage to keep that characteristic looseness.

Adamos
03-28-2005, 09:14 AM
Yo Matt!

I'm really loving your thread, beautiful volume lights and really great mood you whipped up here!
I don't wanna sound to cheesy but there isn't anything to crit so far...

just make one "mistake" ...:twisted:

kidding!

ARE-EE-ESS-PEE-EE-CEE-TEE bro!

Neozoom
03-28-2005, 10:05 AM
very very nice ...

can't wait to see more...

for advices , I would detail and diversify the town on the big metallic guy... and even try to get more impressive background ...

OKMER
03-28-2005, 10:11 AM
Hey there great sketches and great idea too!!Avices?:well not really...maybe push the perspectif orf that town on his back a bit more extreme.
(sorry 4 my english)

NOOB!
03-28-2005, 10:58 AM
no comment......*on the other hand*

i like this colour scheme.!!

Nathellion
03-28-2005, 11:11 AM
Quite possibly my favorite so far.

fooxoo
03-28-2005, 11:36 AM
Looks cool!!

MoonVisionStudio
03-28-2005, 12:38 PM
Hi Matt,

One of the better concepts I have seen so far. Good Luck!

artjunkie
03-28-2005, 12:44 PM
love your latest version for this concept. Great work and I love the colour scheme for this! I really like your rough paints too... lots of energy! Looking forward to seeing more!

Cheers,

element5
03-28-2005, 12:50 PM
Love the latest image, what a great sense of scale and colour :)

CptObvious
03-28-2005, 01:05 PM
Lovely picture! I realy like Ur ideas with a robot stuff. I'll be lookin forward to see this pic compelted.
good luck dude!

Kosmos
03-28-2005, 01:17 PM
Its got great atmosphere, Im loving the composition and the whole story behind it should be new and interesting, im going to keep an eye on this one :thumbsup:


Master And Servant

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=223447

MattDixon
03-28-2005, 07:29 PM
Thanks a lot for all your positive comments and encouragement. I really do appreciate it.

Baron - Thanks. I'm glad you agree on the new sky and reinforcing the focus on the jelly baby :D . I'll be interested to see how I manage to deal with the lighting, too - I've just realised that I'm going to have the unseen sun which illuminates the machine reflecting of some of those windows, which is going to conflict somewhat with any lights I want to put in them. Hmmm...

Adamos - Plenty of mistakes on the way. I'm sure you'll have trouble picking just one. ( Not kidding :) )

Neozoom - Thanks. Hopefully, the city will be more interesting than the boxes and chimneys you see here, that's really just so I can get a feel for the masses and perspective up there. I found a fantastic reference shot of a chemical factory today that gave me some interesting ideas.

Nathellion - High praise indeed, considering some of the work going on around here. I can only assume you haven't explored many of the other threads! :) Much thanks anyway!

kyphur
03-28-2005, 08:55 PM
Hey Matt,

So far I like this one best...
b&w (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1111525157_medium.jpg)

The one you're working on now seems as if the creature's about to swallow the child whereas in the b&w one that you posted earlier it seems as if there's this gentle curiosity in it towards its master and I just love that.

That's my take on it, I'm definantly going to be watching this thread since it's definantly one of the betters.

AlyFell
03-29-2005, 05:13 PM
I nearly missed this update Matt! Doh! The weight and sheer presence of this character is fantastic! I envy your abilities with lighting and atmosphere! Woohoo! :D Wanna see more...

Koekebakker
03-29-2005, 05:32 PM
Damn, already that far ..the concept, composition and coloring look great. Very curious to see the end result. :)

ChristianHammer
03-29-2005, 05:33 PM
Technology, civilization versus the inner child? I like this image alot. Definately going to follow your progress.

burnout
03-29-2005, 07:29 PM
This is lookin great so far matt, I love the tiny vs the gigantic and the glow. very cool.

one thing about the city on his back, it feels alittle too stagnant, the silhouette could have much more variety(randomness) of shape and size to break up that very obvious shape of his back, now im not saying destory that shape, but just suggesting be alittle more subtle about it? just a thought.

yanimator
03-29-2005, 08:03 PM
This is looking really good so far! I like the concept and idea behind it. Like what others were saying the darker sky works better to make the little character stand out more. I was thinking if the little character would reflect/illuminate the palm/belly of the machine? Maybe just a little bit because too much light would probably ruin it since you have the main light source coming from the sky. Hope it helps and good luck with your progress. I'll be checking back for sure!

Gord-MacDonald
03-30-2005, 05:53 AM
there seem to be a fair number of entries which follow the theme of big, brutish monster/robot/creature etc. with a little 'buddy' (some very good ones!!!)

your entry has got a very special 'something' - I'm no sure what, but I am very interested in seeing where it goes. Good luck!

Gord

duddlebug
03-30-2005, 07:20 AM
Mr.Matt... luuuuuvverly picture...

I somehow missed this over the weekend with all my travelling around and DiY. But i've seen it now. And it's splendid!

I do kinda miss the beams of light breaking through the cloud... but i know how good you are with colour and light so i'll look forward to seeing it progress. I think someone else mentioned some light on the belly of machine coming from the child... seems like a good idea..?

I love this. I think it asks much deeper questions than pretty much anything else on this challenge. Whilst still being a big, smelly, chunky robot.

It's great.

mack72
03-30-2005, 07:35 AM
Hello Matt! Awesome work! The colour version is really starting to take shape. I love the sense of scale you've got going on here. I also like the fact that the master servant relationship is only hinted at. By that I mean you're letting the viewer draw their own conclusions.

Great stuff, looking forward to watching this evolve.
Cheers,
Mack

MattDixon
03-30-2005, 11:44 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1112186663_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1112186663_large.jpg)

A step backward to go forward. This may look like a repost or a bad paintover of one of the earlier sketches but it is, in fact, my 'line art' milestone. This will form the basis of my underpainting as I move to colour.

MoonVisionStudio
03-30-2005, 12:14 PM
Well, I am surprised to see you take this step "backwards" but I wont question your genious. I always love your finished paintings and I am glad to be along for the ride on this one!

MattDixon
03-30-2005, 07:08 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1112213311_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1112213311_large.jpg)

First stage with colour. Basically this is the value study I submitted for the line art milestone coloured in with the base colours I intend to use. I set the sketch to a 'multiply' layer and knock the opacity down to around 50%, then block in rough colours on a layer beneath before flattening the image - that's the last time I'll use layers until the very final tweaks. I then continue to work into the flattened image to tidy things up a bit until I'm happy that I have a good base to work against.

I'm not sure how many of these colour WIPs I'll submit, as from here on in my approach tends to be a bit chaotic, but I'm going to try and organise myself to document each stage and explain what I'm doing at each step. I realise no one else may care, but it's been an interesting exercise for me so far, at least..! :)

Art2
03-30-2005, 07:43 PM
Hey we care! Show us each and every step :)
I totally understand the chaotic bit though, that applies to me too...

I was wondering, is the creature leaning forward? Looks like it.
I'm not sure how he's able to support his weight standing like that.
Him sitting on his knees makes more sense I think.

Nevertheless, love it :thumbsup:!

AlyFell
03-30-2005, 07:49 PM
This is excellent to watch you work Matt. I keep tying to dicipline myself to use as few layers as possible, and am getting better... Apart from the computer starting to chug like Thomas the Tank Engine on barbituates, it's forgetting to look at the image as a whole using to many layers. Ironically this image works well at this stage, and can only start to look wonderful as the process continues; as shown by your earlier postings. And this washing of laundry in public by showing your stages is quite diciplining as well; in allowing the ego to post stages which aren't necessarily the most presentable of pieces, but are a part of the development... phew, I went off on one then didn't I?

Awesome! ;)

IDrawGirls
03-30-2005, 08:56 PM
Amazing. There is a certain kind of magic in all your images. No crits.
Would probably be a bit late anyway.

victim335
03-30-2005, 11:43 PM
Aaaaaah! He's alive, I saw! He moved! Fantastic (little shiny thingis all over the picture are my favourite)

Slav
03-31-2005, 12:25 AM
i do so very much admire your work matt. i will be keepin an eye out.
i would say good luck but i doubt you will need it. great image.


slav.

Laramus Maximus
03-31-2005, 12:27 AM
awsome! I love the idea. Looking forward to seeing this one completed....

eupee
03-31-2005, 12:41 AM
this is coming out nice. I tend to use heaps of layers to be safe, but its a bad habit because my photoshop file ends up HUGE! I think you should make the robots eyes a little more sympathetic?

Einar
03-31-2005, 04:52 AM
Fantastic to be able to follow your process like! I like the concept and what I've seen so far; I'm sure you'll do extremely well in this competition.

And for God's sake, don't feel shy about posting the steps, even if you feel they're chaotic. I'm sure a lot of people would love to see everything-- I know I do!

Best of luck to you!

ralphmanning
03-31-2005, 02:19 PM
I have been watching this develop, but kept quiet until now. :D I think it looks really great so far and in my opinion, it is probably THE strongest entry - Great idea. Everything you have done has been spot on so far. However, I would have liked to have seen a colour WIP of cool/cold colours (at least the sky), as that is how I envisaged it to be when it was still just b/w. Perhaps the child would still be emitting a warmish light but certainly the city/sky would look good cooler to push to mood.

It is impossible to tell from you sketches, but what will the child be doing? Standing there innocently, or, pointing at the “servant”, bossing it about and telling it what to do?...

Really looking forward to seeing this develop further, keep up the good work Matt.

mack72
03-31-2005, 02:30 PM
This has got great potential now. I love how the colours are appearing more muted/desaturated towards the top of the industrial city behemoth. Great job!

Cheers
Mack

Dominus
03-31-2005, 03:02 PM
great work man, and nice concept! good luck! :thumbsup:

ANARKY
03-31-2005, 03:12 PM
This is looking great so far Dix.

Been popping in here having a gander at what your up too since this thing began, and this is comming on very nicely indeed.
Looking forward to seeing this develop further.

Good Luck!

fooxoo
03-31-2005, 03:23 PM
Thumbs up! Looking better and better!

duddlebug
04-01-2005, 11:09 AM
I've been dying to read a tutorial by you for ages... And we get to see you build up your layers of paint with your lovely brushes. So i'm gonna look forward to the show... :buttrock:

I've said it before, but i love the idea behind this piece, the master/servant or servant/master relationship and the way different people have interpreted it. And visually, the robot is so humungous and the child so very very teeny that i think it's gone well beyond the 'kid and the robot' thing.

I love it.

Jezzarts
04-05-2005, 08:22 AM
This has a great feel to it, the amazed expression on the robots face makes him quite likable. Looks like he wants to scoop the kid up but isnt sure how to handle him without squishing him!
I'm looking forwad to seeing this WIP. Make sure you give us details!! Brush types etc... cant wait.:bounce:

Claireabella
04-05-2005, 08:24 AM
Hi Matt. Have been looking forward to seeing this progress and the details appearing. Looking good so far! :bounce: Claireabella

MattDixon
04-06-2005, 12:31 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1112790718_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1112790718_large.jpg)

Had very little time or motivation to work on this lately but I haven't updated in a while, so here's where it is now with the first lay in underway. I'll talk about what I'm trying to do during this step when it's complete - hopefully in the next update.

Thanks for your comments. I really do appreciate the encouragement.

duddlebug
04-06-2005, 12:34 PM
oooOoOoooooh... look at all those pipes!! I really like all that gumpf!

I preferred the kid in your earlier concept though... ;)

spacesnail
04-06-2005, 12:49 PM
Hello,

Nice piece of work. In your earlier sketches, I was afraid we would have the same subject.
But it seems we're going into different ways.
Anyhow, it's very impressive.

Keep the good work:thumbsup:

AlyFell
04-06-2005, 12:51 PM
Oh Matt... I'm sorry your motivation has been down! :sad: But this is looking so fantastic!! I wish I had a quarter of your skill with colour and composition... no, two fifths. What the hell, a third of your skill!

I like all the pipey things and chiminiminys.... :D

jowens
04-06-2005, 04:54 PM
That's a really nice piece so far, I like where you're going. I really like the composition, seems very interesting and dynamic...has a lot of motion to it. I also like your master design.

It'd be nice to see some color variations in the master though...I couldn't quite tell if you were going in that direction or if you were planning on using just the one tone.

Look forward to seeing this piece progress!

dougbot
04-06-2005, 11:33 PM
Cool man, it's great seeing your process on this piece. Looking really good so far.

Goro
04-06-2005, 11:38 PM
very dynamic camera angle and nice character.
Love it! waiting for more
:applause:

Slav
04-07-2005, 01:03 AM
hey there matt... great concept but i must say that the color palette has become rather dull as compared to what it used to be. i hope you change this :)

great work i am enjoying this one quite a bit.

lulaassassina
04-07-2005, 01:04 AM
Its getting lovely, really. Now I'm the one who is starting to get dismotivated. :/

prostrise
04-07-2005, 06:39 AM
whoa, awesome work bro, its coming along nicely!

MattDixon
04-07-2005, 12:44 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1112877855_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1112877855_large.jpg)

Not much of an update from yesterday, but this shows that stage of the process complete. At this point, I'm just refining the underpainting - trying to pull out the principal forms and further establish the placement of colours and signifcant details, though things are still very loose. I'm only really spending time on areas that need their volume building up, so flat bits like the sky and ground are still mostly untouched.

MattDixon
04-07-2005, 12:48 PM
Thanks for your comments.

jowens, Slav - I tend to work from dark to light while I'm painting, so more variation in hue and value will ( hopefully ) appear as I go along.

Arc80
04-07-2005, 12:49 PM
what's up Matt,

Man, i haven't been in your thread for a while now, but very nice update dude. Amazing concept on the creature of course and good size relationship. You can really feel that enormousity of the creature. Your colour works with the design, i think. keep it coming dude. i can't wait to see how you light up this piece.

cheers,
Archie

nebezial
04-07-2005, 12:56 PM
wow, the last time i saw this it was still in sketch and oi like where u r taking the colouring, it gives off a monolithic presence of protection:thumbsup:

calisto-lynn
04-07-2005, 01:07 PM
very complex,

:applause: nice

element5
04-09-2005, 12:06 PM
You have come along way and am looking forward to more detail :thumbsup:

W-I-L
04-09-2005, 12:54 PM
looking good even with foundations.... nothing to crit.. i love this piece

kaparo
04-09-2005, 06:04 PM
Hi Matt Excellent work. I like a lot the way it is going colored. The strengh of your stroke looks great. No crits. Good luck! I'll been looking for updates!

Dutchman
04-15-2005, 09:40 AM
Your feeling of color and your painting style are really awesome, Matt! I'm a great 'fan' of your work: your style always eats my mind... :rolleyes: (for a several minutes ;) )

Really állot good luck on finishing it! I really like it, in every case...!

Greeetz, Gijs

dougbot
04-20-2005, 12:57 AM
This is looking great Matt, you've got some serious detail in that behemoth. Excellent stuff.

strych9ine
04-21-2005, 02:15 PM
Just breezed through this whole thread, dude, and I love what you've arrived at. Great concept man... it's cool being able to see your process. Good luck!

matthewart
04-21-2005, 05:11 PM
I love this...

I sorta like the one with more color though...

but... wow... I love this

Slav
04-21-2005, 05:51 PM
great work matt. great to see you are still alive and kicking.

or not...

j/k :)

beelow
04-21-2005, 07:25 PM
I want to see this one to the end. This is one of my favorites. Good hustle.:thumbsup:

authentic
04-22-2005, 12:35 PM
Matt ? MAtt ? Where are you ? Since the begin of the challenge it's one of the picture I'm waiting for. Can't wait more :scream:

Well I had to be patient and come back.

the-mighty-m
04-25-2005, 01:10 PM
I love this concept, its an awesome visual too!

MattDixon
05-12-2005, 10:32 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1115937126_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1115937126_large.jpg)

Had very little time to spend with this since the last update, but I've moved things on a little - tightening up on some of the details and starting to render up. It's going to be close..!

MattDixon
05-12-2005, 10:35 PM
Thanks to everyone who's looked in over the last couple of weeks. It's going to be tight for Wednesday, but I'm really going to try to finish this up.

Maybe. :rolleyes:

ebrowning
05-12-2005, 10:46 PM
WOW!!! I missed this thread- this image is fantastic! I really like your use of lost & found on the underside, what a great concept.

BlacKeri
05-12-2005, 10:48 PM
Simply stunning. I love every single tiniest detail! <3

paperclip
05-12-2005, 10:49 PM
Quite beautiful!

Steampunkstyle with little kids...nice combo!
All it needs now is some flowers and metallic textures, highlights and glints!:thumbsup:

Codexus
05-12-2005, 10:55 PM
I have to confess I didn't watch this thread since the early concept drawings and I'm discovering the wonderful job you did on all the city details! :thumbsup:

It's an amazing picture!

franckkobolt
05-12-2005, 10:56 PM
This is a great image, i like the concept so much. the kind of illustration you can't look at without imagining a story .
This reminds me that this challenge is about imagination. "master and servant" is an ordinary concept and it is our role to make this original. good luck.

franck.

JRBRAZ
05-12-2005, 10:56 PM
Thanks to everyone who's looked in over the last couple of weeks. It's going to be tight for Wednesday, but I'm really going to try to finish this up.

Maybe. :rolleyes:


C´mon .. please don´t say maybe. Your piece is really cool. We waiting for more updates ... :bounce:

Now left just a few days ... but can do it :wip:

walrus
05-12-2005, 11:10 PM
I've been dying to see you complete this one. You still have time, you can do it.... Go, Matt, Go!!! :bounce:

-mike

Gord-MacDonald
05-12-2005, 11:56 PM
Holy Smokes!!!

What a powerful image. This is looking so good :thumbsup:

Gord

beelow
05-13-2005, 12:35 AM
this is one of my favorite concepts in the cotest. I want see this finished Matt. I hope u finish this one. Good Luck!:thumbsup:

AlyFell
05-13-2005, 06:51 AM
Fantastic Matt! The details are really starting to come out now. The 'factory' creature really reminds me of the movie 'Brazil' for some reason. Probably all the pipes and ducting and stuff... :)

duddlebug
05-13-2005, 07:10 AM
The detail on the back of the robot is just splendidly super Mr.Dixon!! I love the shapes and shadows and light across it.

You've gotta finish for wednesday... you just gotta...

paulwdavidson
05-13-2005, 08:09 AM
Yay!....he's still in the running.

Great stugg....looking great.

Paul

arLutiK
05-13-2005, 08:09 AM
Matt

this is simply GRANDIOSE

authentic
05-13-2005, 08:21 AM
I'm so happy of these resurrection. It was my favorite concept since the beginning. And as I like everyhting in your picture. Go on Matt.
I'l also glad to see you "relighted" the girl. MAybe it will be intersting to have some lights in the city to answer the brightness of the girl. Just to try

the-mighty-m
05-13-2005, 01:03 PM
Really cool! Looking better and better.

ewb513
05-13-2005, 01:55 PM
I love the Oscar Chichoni's look, the color ambiance and monster. There's nothing to add...

Speaky
05-16-2005, 07:10 AM
Hi Matt, looking good so far and I hope you get it finished. Are you planning on working some highlights or other light sources into the top of the robot? All those pipes and ducts would work wonderfully if you could hint at a seething furnace at the very core, with saturated reds and oranges bleeding out from cracks and crevices. Hey, good luck whatever you do with it! :thumbsup:

TheMagnetic
05-16-2005, 07:17 AM
hey man even though you havent put much time into this it still looks incredible. you did a great jobas far as im concerned.

MattDixon
05-16-2005, 09:32 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1116279149_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1116279149_large.jpg)

I feel a little bit like the girl in the pic, with the machine being Wednesday's deadline! Some stuff is starting to drop into place now, and other things are running away from me, but I least I feel that it's going *somewhere*. Still undecided over the girl - first she was going to have a balloon, then a kite, but those colourful splashes weren't sitting comfortably with the subdued palette elsewhere so I've settled on an outstretched arm. Perhaps a bit too subtle with her being so tiny though. I dunno - more coffee should help me focus, and hopefully bring me an inspired way of filling that gap in the background on the left. Hmmm...

Squibbit
05-16-2005, 09:37 PM
and i thought this is never gonna get details... nice work :thumbsup:

arkinet
05-16-2005, 09:39 PM
yeah, coffee, coffee... keep it coming... mhen, I've been waiting for your update, and here it is... wow, i love the contrast of the character, looks awesome to me... hurry up dude, we'll miss the train!!:D

phoboalien
05-16-2005, 09:39 PM
hey matt it's looking ever more better!!! however for the gap on the left, I had love one of your previous sketch which has like a lighting through the clouds! Why don't u rearrange something like that?
Go man I love your piece!:thumbsup:
phoboalien

crowley
05-16-2005, 09:41 PM
Ok. You're absolutely reponsible for my jaw dropping on the floor. That's... well, that's awesome. I mean that.
For the streched arm, that's not a big issue in my opinion: I think one can see it pretty clearly. One can even see that the little girl is not only stretching her arm, but her whole body.
About the visual gap on the left, well, this is highly subjective, but I'm not sure you need to fill it. I mean, it'd be cool to have something there, but it could be some random colored background, not necessarily much more detailed than it's right now. The focus of your picture is on the characters and they are so damn perfect that you don't really need anything else. I mean, you could tell me that it's the final image and I would be like "Ok. Are you sure you saved enough space on the top for the challenge book title to figure there?"

TeemuR
05-16-2005, 10:16 PM
Whoah! Now there's some differences between the scales and it's very effective. I think the girl doesn't neccessarily need anything. The red balloon could be nice, tho. But It makes more point and relationship between the characters if you keep her hand swinging. Maybe teddybear on her right hand?

yznah
05-16-2005, 10:18 PM
hehe i think everybody already told you that, but the contrast of size is really impressing me^^ you found it!

rwitzsche
05-16-2005, 10:27 PM
Wow! I like your detail on all the metal!

MattDixon
05-16-2005, 10:51 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1116283916_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1116283916_large.jpg)

Another quick update ( with a rather crude contrast pull in PS that's burned out some of the detail ). Things are starting to balance up now, but perhaps too much - I want the girl to be the definite focal point. Might give the balloon another try once things are tidied up a little more.

Thanks for the comments, they really help to keep me going!

walrus
05-16-2005, 11:04 PM
Glad to see you still in this, Matt! The details are looking good. The values are strong, but not as strong as the value study that you posted in post #148. Maybe you just have yet to add some post effects, but I jhope you'll push it as far as you tried earler on. Good luck in the last day or two!

-mike

paperclip
05-16-2005, 11:41 PM
Hey Matt, long time no see. You sure lay low after you whupped me in the avatarwars :D . This is a beautiful picture, one of the best here for sure. I love the contrast between the little cute girl and the big steampunk monsta! All you need is a little highlighting. Oh, and love. Here's some for you!-->:love:Keep up the great work!
theresa.

Mythmaker
05-16-2005, 11:48 PM
I wondered where this had got to! - It's really come on since I last saw it.

Great work! :thumbsup:

colonbodyslam
05-17-2005, 12:22 AM
Amazing. I think the titan and child idea is great. I can't wait to see the final piece.

arLutiK
05-17-2005, 05:12 AM
I love the new contrast Matt, the metal looks really nice that way. Good luck on the finishing touch.

grobouk
05-17-2005, 05:31 PM
congratulations, fantastic work.
In my opinion a corner of blue sky should be more better.
I hope you win a prize

dougbot
05-17-2005, 07:04 PM
Matt, this is looking great. I'm very impressed. I've missed a lot lately, this thread being part of that. Excellent work my friend.

redehlert
05-17-2005, 07:44 PM
alright matt!
sweet update - really pulled it together nicely. point of focus, lighting, mood, atmosphere, various textures, size relationships - all phat!
peace.
d
p.s. we miss you in COWville.

Odysseus-art
05-17-2005, 08:10 PM
GREAT!A HUGE servant and a tiny master.I like very much your technique and colors.Just try to show better that the girl is the master somehow.I think that the rised hand of the girl is the 60-80% fact that shows who's the boss!Thet is because the servant has no real expressions at all, or it is just my bad judgement.So try to show that better and your image will be one of the best I've seen so far in this challenge-Honest!

good luck:thumbsup:

Please see MY MASTER & SERVANT (http://the%20concept%20is%20fear.fear%20dominates%20our%20lives%20since%20the%20beginning%20of%20our%20existence%20on%20earth.he%20pushed%20us%20to%20research%20and%20evolution.however%20he%20encarnates%20death,%20pain,%20caducity,%20insects,%20etc,%20things%20that%20are%20beyond%20our%20commutability,%20and%20we%20even%20avoid%20to%20think%20of%20them.when%20such%20a%20thought%20dominates%20our%20mind,%20the%20relationship%20of%20master%20and%20servant%20between%20fear%20and%20us%20human%20beings%20is%20undoubtable./)

MattDixon
05-17-2005, 09:50 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1116366648_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1116366648_large.jpg)

Just some final fiddling required now to try and punch things up a bit. Hopefully I'll be able to post a final tonight or early tomorrow.

MattDixon
05-17-2005, 11:02 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1116370962_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1116370962_large.jpg)

There we go. I'm calling it done. Of course that doesn't mean I won't be making any more changes! But I'm planning to FTP the final in the morning so I'm not tempted to unnecessary tweaks.

A few people seem to be confused over who is master and who is servant, but it's intentionally ambiguous so I can't decide whether to explain the concept or not. Maybe I'll see if I can come up with some suitably vague wording to explain what I was trying to acheive! ( Though I think I explained what I was thinking in earlier on in the thread. )

Thanks to everyone who's left comments for their support!

AlyFell
05-17-2005, 11:09 PM
Fantastic Matt! I'm really impressed with how much detail you've got into the little girl. And overall it's a beautiful image. Gentle and warm! :)

paperclip
05-18-2005, 01:44 AM
Congrats on finishing Matt, nice to see other DSGers doing so well!!

GOOD LUCK in the final judging...see you around there!

SteveV
05-18-2005, 02:00 AM
That's a powerful image Matt, it's so reminiscent of a recuring nightmare I had as a kid it's hard for me to look at.

vivien82
05-18-2005, 06:59 AM
i like the final angle you decided on alot. really cool/sweet image. great job!

duddlebug
05-18-2005, 09:12 AM
Just fantastic!! I love it!!

The added detail in the robot... and especially the spots of violet and the little girl have really 'made' the image. And i think the ideas behind the image raise it above a lot of other entries...

Good luck in the judging Matt!!

xric7
05-18-2005, 09:22 AM
wow..!!
realy cool idea and amazing art work!
love ur character alot.the giant robot is awesome!
congrats and wish u the best inthis challenge.:applause: :buttrock: :thumbsup:

Velinov
05-18-2005, 09:25 AM
Congrats on your final image Mat!!! :thumbsup: Great entry for the challange. Wish you good luck!



Cheers

paulwdavidson
05-18-2005, 09:49 AM
Fantastic! As I mentioned earlier in your thread.......I love it.


Congratulations and good luck

Paul

tuck
05-18-2005, 10:04 AM
i really like the brush strokes and the mood of the pic , nice work and good luck.:eek: :thumbsup:

authentic
05-18-2005, 10:06 AM
What to say matt. You've just kill me. It's wonderful. Concept, design, color, composition...all is so great. :cry: I don't know what to say. Just I hope you'll win. It will be a justice.
And i was so afraid this picture will not be finished. I must go cause it's too much emotion for me.

Bravo.

MDN67
05-18-2005, 10:09 AM
again a very nice pic. I like the texture of the metal. Good work and good luck for the end

crowley
05-18-2005, 11:51 AM
I'm so happy you finished it. Love your concept, utterly love the way you brought it to life. It's wonderful. Absolutely, definitely and simply wonderful.
Good luck withe judging (not that you'll need any :D ).

digital-bobert
05-18-2005, 11:54 AM
Very nice Matt! Congrats on a great illustration! Good luck to you my friend

W-I-L
05-18-2005, 11:56 AM
excellent matt. powerful image.. one of my favs for sure

NinjaA55N
05-18-2005, 06:02 PM
huh, a quiete but awesome thread! U did a great job (as always) and I hope u'll be properly rewarded for this :) good luck!

azreal_hymn
05-18-2005, 06:38 PM
Great work. I love the way you handle details. One of the hardest thing to do is to restrain from putting too much details into an artwork, but you balance it out very very well. kudos.

MattDixon
05-18-2005, 08:11 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1116447059_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5763/5763_1116447059_large.jpg)

I couldn't resist a few final tweaks, but this is definately 'it' - I'm off to upload to hires right now.

Thanks again to everyone for their encouragement. I really mean that.

JRBRAZ
05-18-2005, 08:12 PM
Congratulations Matt. Really a great work. :applause:

Good luck on votting :thumbsup: