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H3rbie
03-22-2005, 01:30 AM
Peder Kallin has entered the Master and Servant 3D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=5671)

Latest Update: Modeling: testrender
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1112254286_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1112254286_large.jpg)

some more stuff like defined knees...

H3rbie
03-22-2005, 01:46 AM
good luck ya all and may we all have fun and learn loads from eachither

PedramK
03-22-2005, 03:09 AM
About time you joined one of these bro :scream:
Ill definitely keep my eye on this one!

Keep on drumming:thumbsup:

H3rbie
03-22-2005, 07:07 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1111475242_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1111475242_large.jpg)

Was watching constantine yesterday and wasa bit inspired by that movie i think, not sure this will be the final concept but pretty sure my entry will include a angel and some sort of devil thingie

icedeyes
03-22-2005, 09:49 AM
Good luck man.. I remember your works back from xsibase...

Obraxis
03-22-2005, 05:29 PM
Hey man! Entry looks very cool, cant wait to see it! :)

AnimZiggy
03-22-2005, 05:53 PM
good luck! :D :D I like the fact that the servant will be a male. lol. :twisted:

H3rbie
03-23-2005, 01:34 AM
thanks guys!

I have rethought the concept a bit and will be posting new update tonight and give a little explanation on how im thinking :)

nix0r
03-23-2005, 01:38 AM
very nice sketch :), I'm making a demon as well :D.
Good luck!

H3rbie
03-23-2005, 01:49 AM
thanks dude! :)

Kid-Mesh
03-23-2005, 02:48 AM
This place is starting to get a little creepy :twisted: ...every where I turn there are demon modelers everywhere!

Good Luck, nice concept too.

H3rbie
03-23-2005, 07:21 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1111562459_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1111562459_large.jpg)

well a new composition i did, I chose to use xsi default chars this time as i dont have a tablet at home. I wanted to have some more dramatic scene and trough discussion with a friend I came up with this. The idea is that the angel is the servant of good by his own will....and he is a servant against his will to the devil girl that has captured him..its kinda deep thinking i guess and hard to get so any commments towards comp as well as idea is very welcomed!

SheepFactory
03-23-2005, 05:24 PM
I really like the new composition much better than the first sketch. Its very dynamic now. Looking forward to see this finished!

ChristianHammer
03-23-2005, 05:26 PM
Trick I think would be getting the right expressions for each character as the pose is dramatic.

H3rbie
03-23-2005, 07:09 PM
thanks guys, i agree about the expressions selling the image and i will try and get a expression of pain/frustration...well bad feelings really and a almost like a scream expression on the angel. The devil however will be relaxed and in her "sexy" outfit smoke a ciggarette with an evil grin kinda thing....

PedramK
03-23-2005, 08:44 PM
Hey dude, this is coming together quite nicely actually.
Nice improvement over your initial concept. http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

Awaiting the goodies http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/grin.gif

Obraxis
03-23-2005, 09:27 PM
Agreed - much improved composition from teh last one :) Looking great!

Numse
03-24-2005, 12:09 AM
*Add to Favorites..."

Great concept mate, this will be among the winners for sure.. or I´ll kick your ass ;)

Good luck, I´ll help as much as I can!

DaddyMack
03-24-2005, 12:19 AM
Hey H3rbie, I reckon second comp is waay stronger too. It could possibly be improved by bringing the camera a little further under the male, so that his hand that is reaching out gets more exposure...Cool concept too
Good luck

H3rbie
03-24-2005, 07:35 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1111649700_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1111649700_large.jpg)

started the female head today, nice to have started the modeling on stuff i know how i want and at the same time i will keep on working on the layout of the scene. Due to timelimit I wont model anything that wont be visible in the scene so for angel for instance i will do just upper body and some random part of the leg that will be visible

MacAndre
03-24-2005, 07:47 AM
good start here! i like the the second komposition. you are fast. you are the first one here i have seen, who allready began to modell... :buttrock:

pitiwazou
03-24-2005, 09:35 AM
beautifull face at this time ;)

AnimZiggy
03-24-2005, 12:39 PM
i prefer the new comp more as well! :D

H3rbie
03-24-2005, 04:17 PM
thanks guys (and girl)! Ive started to do some texturing work to get the right feel on the female and I think it will be something like the color on this model. Update to follow tonite :)

H3rbie
03-25-2005, 05:41 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1111729287_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1111729287_large.jpg)

Head almost done, some stuff missing in the back of it but no point in modeling that at this time. Kinda happy with this one and doubt i will be changing it much and tomorro i will probably start uving it. Its going to b a seperate mesh from the body so i can get something im happy with and them move on to the other parts..hope u like and comments are welcomed as always :)

H3rbie
03-25-2005, 10:35 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1111790100_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1111790100_large.jpg)

new progress, since theres an obvious lack of interest ill just post when she is finished and perhaps more ppl have something to say then :)

Obraxis
03-25-2005, 10:50 PM
Looking great man! Like the bazzomers ;) Keep it up! I want to see more! hehe!

AlyFell
03-25-2005, 11:17 PM
Oooh! I ought to spend a bit more time hanging around the 3D challenge forum when there's work like this going on! Looking great so far... H3rbie... back to my 2Dworld now! :)

SheepFactory
03-25-2005, 11:35 PM
She is coming along nicely man , If i were to make one change i'd make her neck a little bit thinner\longer and more elegant.

Numse
03-25-2005, 11:44 PM
I like the neck, it makes her look stronger and a bit more aggressive.

Looks great, nothing to comment except for a bit bigger breasts as I said before ;)

DimitrisLiatsos
03-26-2005, 12:49 AM
http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/smile.gif I suspect u go with second concept ...http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif (not that i had problem with first but second looks really more dramatic as Sheep Factory says)

Woman's Face is very beautiful , maybe i would prefer her nose a little thinner ..but that's just personal taste ...

I am interested in seeing this complete.

By the way thank u very much for the comments in my thread .http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/smile.gif...and yes u are right ...ears away from ZB ...no reason to torture myself again like this ..heheheh


Have fun man!

H3rbie
03-26-2005, 03:42 AM
thanks guys!

Obraxis: Haha ill make a special version for u ;)

Posh: Thanks dude, I looked at ur thread and im so impressed!

Sheep and numse: Thanks! I will do some tests with the neck!

Dimi: thanks man, I will see and perhaps make the nose a bit more petite

H3rbie
03-26-2005, 04:10 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1111810213_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1111810213_large.jpg)

been drinking and drinking as ive modeled and bout time to stop now i think

Reverender
03-26-2005, 04:25 AM
Looking excellent with the current clothes set. There seems to be a bit of a crease at the middle of everything...don't know if you're aware of this at this point.

pixeltroll2005
03-26-2005, 04:35 AM
The model is coming along nicely. Love your concept! Good luck in the contest!

overcontrast
03-26-2005, 05:36 AM
hey H3rbie, very nice concepts and gr8 modleing... i really like where ur going... the end product should look awesome... btw, the hands of the female character seems a lil bit short... or mayb its just my defected eyes... anyway, keep on working really hard, and wish u all the best :thumbsup:

H3rbie
03-26-2005, 08:56 AM
thanks!

amazing: I have yet to weld the two sides together hence the seam :)

Overcontrast: yeah hadns were a bit short infact i scaled em up and looked quite much better :)

JHarford
03-26-2005, 12:06 PM
man, these bloody seam monkeys....
Great work herbie :)

keetmun
03-26-2005, 12:33 PM
That's a pretty good-lookig model u got! Judging by the height of your model I'll say she could use a bit more length on her arms.

Cheers!
:buttrock:

Obraxis
03-26-2005, 09:13 PM
Dam sexy lookin' H3 ;) Get me a 1 on 1 sesh dammit!

Personaly, i think she could do with a little more meat on her shoulders but hey thats me.

Cheers! Keep it up!

Versiden
03-26-2005, 09:30 PM
look great dude

I think the neck looks a little thick, otherwise the rest is perfect

markovicd
03-26-2005, 09:35 PM
looking great... but u are 2 fast man slow down! :D

H3rbie
03-27-2005, 02:34 AM
thanks doods!

Havent worked on it mch today but will have a small update tonite hopefully with some basic legs.

obarxis: yeah, the prob i had was that when i did some tests with the pose her arms will have the shoulders looked a bit beefy so I just made em smaller to save some time later on. I agree tho they are a bit flat now.

Versiden: neck I have made a bit longer to give a more petite impression instead of a muscly girl

Marco: the style i want on this piece will be quite hard to achieve so i am quite stressed and working my ass off now in the beginning to be able to test stuff and chill a bit later on :)

Troof
03-27-2005, 02:57 AM
She looks nice...hair will be good =P but i know its the last step haha

her abdomen is ok..but the line in the center looks kinda od..but other hten that its good!!
gj

Obraxis
03-27-2005, 08:04 AM
her abdomen is ok..but the line in the center looks kinda od..but other hten that its good!!
gj

He hasnt joined the 2 halfs of the mesh yet, so thats why there is a seam ;) It wont be there once he's finished modeling.

H3rbie
03-27-2005, 09:01 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1111914086_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1111914086_large.jpg)

Well, havent had much time to work on her today. I have made her arms a bit longer as well as scaled the hands up a bit.

The legs are blocked in and are more about length than shape at this point. They are very blocky now and kinda distorts the feeling of the girl as petite yet powerful. This will all be changed tomorrow when I will be shapung up both the arms and legs a bit better and add some more details. Today I also started with the enviroment a bit something i feel is quite booring but has to be done so I am trying to spread it out a bit.

JHarford
03-27-2005, 04:10 PM
Good work man , nicely blocked :)

H3rbie
03-28-2005, 06:38 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1111991913_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1111991913_large.jpg)

well not as much done today as i would have wanted, making straps and stuff just isnt all that fun :)

Some colors thrown in there just to see how they will b and are in no way final. But any comments and/or examples of fabric and color would b more than welcomed!

H3rbie
03-28-2005, 06:41 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1111992110_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1111992110_large.jpg)

well the text as before hehe, getting tired here :)

JHarford
03-28-2005, 06:56 AM
nice update man. She's looking good, keep it up!

Gunilla
03-28-2005, 07:01 AM
Sweet model you got here - she looks a bit like Kylie Minogue, petite. Very nice.

lycka till! Det är kul att det är så många svenskar här - och så många som är bra dessutom :thumbsup:

Numse
03-28-2005, 08:10 AM
Looks great man. Can´t wait for a render!

DimitrisLiatsos
03-28-2005, 08:58 AM
Yup she looks cool ..waiting to see her posed and textured....:)

Kid-Mesh
03-28-2005, 04:52 PM
She looks really nice man, awesome update. In regards to the wings, are you going to just model the shape and use textures or actually model some details into it?

SheepFactory
03-28-2005, 04:56 PM
she is coming along nicely man! cant wait to see her with all the details finished. And dont forget the nose!... :wip:

gra7
03-28-2005, 04:57 PM
heyy herbiee !!
cooll model !! great idea !!
wainting to see moree. !!!
c ya !

H3rbie
03-28-2005, 06:17 PM
Stripe: Thanks man!

Gunilla: great to hear I get the feeling of her across :)

Numse: renders will be next weekend i think, soo much to do so little time :/

Dimi: Crazy guy! Thanks man!

Kid: Wings will have nurbpatches and on them textured feathers...so quite a lot of job needed om them

Sheep: thanks bro! Yeah nosejob coming up now in the detailing procss :)

Gra7: Thanks! Hope to have another update of girl finshed modeling stage tonight :)

H3rbie
03-29-2005, 04:58 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1112072309_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1112072309_large.jpg)

well...detaling ;)

H3rbie
03-29-2005, 08:56 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1112086590_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1112086590_large.jpg)

some more detailing bfore bed, id b happy for suggestions to add to make her look a bit more....scary and doomed :)

Numse
03-29-2005, 10:21 AM
Looks great!

One thing. The chain around her neck doesn´t fit in, the rest is excellent.

Still wan´t bigger boobs though.... :rolleyes:

AnimZiggy
03-29-2005, 10:31 AM
Nice!!! You're fast. I like everything so far. Making her look more scary will help with posing her and setting up the facial expression and ofcourse the texturing etc! :scream:

H3rbie
03-30-2005, 01:45 AM
thanks girls!

yeah numse agree about the chain around the neck...and its fixed :)

jmBoekestein
03-30-2005, 01:59 AM
Hi there,

I think that if you make her arms longer and thicker/more muscled she'll look better and more scary at the same time!

Good luck.

Wandddo
03-30-2005, 05:29 AM
Hi H3rbie! Very nice your model and several details too. I really like it :D keep it up and good luck, friend!;)

H3rbie
03-30-2005, 08:54 PM
thanks guys!

jm: yeah need to put some muscles on those arms, I might make em longer as well, good suggestion bro!

PedramK
03-31-2005, 04:25 AM
bling bling dude

nice progress bud, got a suggestion for ya

how bout a tail for the girl ? like one of them hell'ish ones? just an idea

H3rbie
03-31-2005, 07:31 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1112254286_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5671/5671_1112254286_large.jpg)

some more stuff like defined knees...

pseudonympending
03-31-2005, 07:42 AM
Great modeling man, that knee definition is defiately helping a lot.

As for making her look more scary that's all going to be down to facial expression, the type of eyes you give her and the lighting - people always look more evil when lit from below.

Top stuff so far, keep it up.

PS, is she going to be green in the final image?

H3rbie
03-31-2005, 07:53 AM
thanks man, yeah hope i can nail the facial expression..gonna be important i think as well as the pose since shes a bit away from the camera. All colors are just quick color stuff to differentiate the different parts, she is gonna be a pale yellow i think in skin tone in the final one..

overcontrast
03-31-2005, 08:24 AM
the model look really good.... i like ur stle man... but one thing i can point out is that the head seems a bit big in my eyes...and the arms seems too skinny and short, u might want to fix that.. but rather then that, its lookin real good! keep up the good works mate :thumbsup:

H3rbie
03-31-2005, 07:29 PM
thanks man! Yeah i dd some tests goin with ur comments and the arms really needs to be lengthen a bit, head i scaled down a bit, and it looks more dynamic now :D

mecman
03-31-2005, 07:36 PM
Nice! I like the idea:twisted: and the modeling is great! Good atention to details!:thumbsup:
Keep it up!

Troof
03-31-2005, 07:49 PM
Her body and nails look excellent!! really like it
The face looks a little like a man in my perspective but its tight

H3rbie
03-31-2005, 10:21 PM
thanks!

Troof, yeah man I kinda gave up with making the head look "female" after a while, I did some quick tests and textures and hair will do the trick for that one, also the scaling of the head helped a bit

Obraxis
03-31-2005, 11:24 PM
Lookin nice there h3 :)

put her in a nice pose for me will ya, so I can 'crit' the 'deformations' ;)

Micro26
04-01-2005, 12:01 AM
wow, she seems pretty nasty man,
very good modeling keep up:thumbsup:

mireneye
04-01-2005, 03:28 PM
Looking really good. Id really like to see more of what Environment your are going to use. I bet you have a good idea lying somewhere in your creative mind.

*Dont mind small breasts, all 3dmodels do not have em ;)"

Best of luck!

eYadNesS
04-01-2005, 03:37 PM
Nice model so far, I liked the down area so much, the shoes and the cloth are so nice...
I think you have to work a little bit on her neck and chest area to make balance in the character.

Good luck in the challenge :)

Neeno
04-07-2005, 03:16 AM
I LOVE THE MODEL great detail on it dude.. the boots look vry good

H3rbie
04-08-2005, 01:28 AM
thanks all!

Obraxis: jupp will do, a speciiiaal one for u ;)
Micro: thanks man!
miren: yeah man ive started with it and will post a screen of it this weekend, glad u like the small breasts :)
eyad: yeah man i agree there is some stuff that needs to be tweaked in the upper part of her body, hope to be able to fix it!
Neeno: Thanks man!

Update this weekend, have had shitloads to do so not much happend last week

PBlades
04-18-2005, 02:33 PM
Looking cool, i like the composition sketches...looks interesting.


Some crits you could consider-
-For the hand to be in that position (test with your own arm), the bicep should be facing more upwards, I would also suggest making the arm longer too and more definition on the top of the Pectoral where the bicep wraps underneath.
hope this helps, cool work

Obraxis
05-12-2005, 05:01 PM
A promising entry requires....UPDATES! :deal:

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