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Fred76
03-22-2005, 12:11 AM
Frédéric DUBOIS has entered the Master and Servant 3D.

Challenge Page (http://cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=5660)

Latest Update: Final Image: Conquistadors : new Incas' God
http://cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1116811838_medium.jpg (http://cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1116811838_large.jpg)

Here's my final image for this challenge. I wanted to represent a scene where an Inca Priest is kneeling in front of a Conquistador believing he is a God. He gives him a sceptre, symbol of power. The sun falls behind the Inca pyramid to symbolize the fall of the Inca civilisation. I wanted to include each elements which made believe to Inca that Conquistadors were God : coming from sea with big boat, with horses and gun. Now the inca priest is kneelling in front of an human while a few time ago he venerated Inca's god symbolized by statue behind the conquistador.

Kid-Mesh
03-22-2005, 12:48 AM
Have Fun, Good Luck :)

Fred76
03-22-2005, 09:42 AM
Thanks ... you too ... i'll do my best ;)

Lemog
03-22-2005, 10:14 AM
Bonne chance gars... montre-nous de quoi tu es capable... yeah... I'm happy to see you here an another time... I'm sure you do more of your best... good luck and don't forget to take pleasure :D

pitiwazou
03-22-2005, 05:19 PM
yes good luck mayalougien ;)

Mr.Waka
03-22-2005, 06:08 PM
Good luck guy ! Mayalounge Powa... :bounce: May the force be with you ! :thumbsup:

bouledpue
03-23-2005, 06:07 AM
Good luck Fred.

scootermaya
03-23-2005, 06:32 AM
Hihihihi ! it is a community in the Challenge ! The Lounge Powaaaaaaaa ! hihihi !
Good luck man ! Can't wait to see what you're going to come up with !

Elendil_le_Grand
03-23-2005, 08:04 AM
Bonne chance à toi Mayaloungien ;)
Good Luck :thumbsup:

Fred76
03-23-2005, 08:17 AM
Thanks everybody :thumbsup: ... i'll post my first draw today or tomorrow ...

jddog
03-23-2005, 08:28 AM
good luck fred... mmm mais ils sont tous fous ces Français... :D

haha (all crazy this frencies...)

jdd

pitiwazou
03-24-2005, 08:39 PM
bouu la honte sur moi j'avais pas vu ton post !

good luck man ;) !

ca va chier des bulles !!!

e-maje
03-25-2005, 11:14 PM
Good luck Fred, I wait to see your image:bounce:

Fred76
03-28-2005, 11:34 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112013297_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112013297_large.jpg)

My main idea is to show an Inca Priest (worshipper of Moon) brandishing an ancient artefact against a servant who disobeyed an order. The priest is punishing him (transforming him to a werewolf), showing him the true power of the Moon, their master. The action may take place in a temple during an eclipse (not sure of that).

Fred76
03-28-2005, 11:39 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112013568_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112013568_large.jpg)

First part of modeling ... started with a cube and only used polygonal modelisation ... the priest is not finished at all !

Fred76
03-28-2005, 11:42 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112013739_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112013739_large.jpg)

... still work on the Priest ...

Fred76
03-28-2005, 11:47 AM
@ jddog : Yes we are (crazy):)
@ e-maje,pitiwazou : thanks :thumbsup:

eddieellis
03-28-2005, 12:08 PM
hey mate its coming along nicely ... but too me the eye's look alittle wierd, i think it might be the bidge of the nose

Lemog
03-28-2005, 07:23 PM
That started very good my friend... with some minor changes, that's will be perfect...
Ears seem a little bit plate and maybe too small, and not so high... the armpits don't seem to go up enough.
The higher part of the nose seems too broad, too powerful, whereas the end of the nostrils seems to go up a little too much.
The thorax seems ttoo flat on the front, making it resemble to an action man :scream:
But it's only of small details, the unit is already very coherent and splendid, good courage for the continuation. :thumbsup:

MDN67
03-28-2005, 07:43 PM
this is the first time i see your challenge, good concept, the modeling of the first characters is good but you will be added more detail on the body and affined the muscles, good work
aller frenchie donne le meilleur:thumbsup:

jddog
03-29-2005, 05:36 AM
That come really nice out, congrats :wip:
jdd

Fred76
03-29-2005, 05:40 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112078453_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112078453_large.jpg)

... i changed a little bit the shape of the head ....

Fred76
03-29-2005, 05:51 AM
@MDN67 : Thanks, until now i just worked on the head (reason is bellow)
@Lemog : Thanks, for the thorax i get some problems with my reference images, i see two references (on books) and they don't put the same number of muscles so i give up for some hours this part ! I'll go to a shop to see a book of anatomy as i don't want to make a man "Frankeinstein" :) ...
@eddieellis,jddog : Thanks

Fred76
03-29-2005, 05:49 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112122182_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112122182_large.jpg)

... the main part of the priest (Inca)'s necklace

gra7
03-29-2005, 05:59 PM
i like this model..

good luck !! dont stop !!

bouledpue
03-30-2005, 05:48 AM
Good work Fred, but i think that the incas was the servant of the sun ;)

Lemog
03-30-2005, 05:52 AM
Very simpathic your necklace... :thumbsup:

Fred76
03-31-2005, 08:50 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112262651_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112262651_large.jpg)

... a quick test to see how the necklace goes on the Priest ... will make some modifications later ...

Fred76
03-31-2005, 09:10 AM
@bouledpue : ... the concept is not definitive but one of the idea was to do the scene during an eclipse while the moon "eats" the sun (so appears to defeat the sun) to show how easily some people can turn over (change) their belief in favor of the most powerfull ... this will evoluate as a have lot's of variations in my head ...
@Lemog, gra7 : Thanks !!!

bouledpue
03-31-2005, 05:53 PM
Yes, i like the idea of the eclipse.

Lemog
04-01-2005, 04:58 AM
Your idea of eclipse agree me too... to following then :thumbsup: Have a good day :wavey:

Fred76
04-02-2005, 05:06 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112421965_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112421965_large.jpg)

... an evolution of my initial concept ... still take place in the same place but in a different scene ... here the discovery of a new pre-colombian tribe (Inca) by explorer, ... the tribe tought they were God (as for example they had horses) ... in relation to the history of the discovery of the american continent ...

Fred76
04-02-2005, 07:30 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112430618_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112430618_large.jpg)

... firsts steps of modelisation of the horse ... will add more detail now ...

Fred76
04-02-2005, 09:42 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112438558_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112438558_large.jpg)

... i've added some details to the head ...

Matroskin
04-02-2005, 10:20 AM
Hi, Fred76!
Glad you're with us!
Well, I see you've got prety fast progress in your project.
Human just great, but for horse I suggest that you bend it's rear legs backward (oposite direction). In other aspects - looks cool, mate http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon13.gif

aleinlatin
04-02-2005, 11:07 AM
Hey Fred76, welcome to the equine modellers group!!

I really like your idea. The original idea of the werewold really had my imagination going. Is there any way that you might still keep the idea of the werewolf around? I'd really like to see how you tackle the werewolf as your human models were looking really good. I particularly have to congratulate you on the facial for the Inca. They had really strong noses but the rest were soft edges. :thumbsup:

Fred76
04-03-2005, 10:41 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112524897_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112524897_large.jpg)

... i modified the legs to match better with horses' legs ...

Fred76
04-03-2005, 10:58 AM
@aleinlatin: Thanks, the werewolf idea is not dead at all ;)... i'll put it if i get time enough to do it ... my latest concept is maybe not my definitive one ... my definitive will depend on how many time i'll have to finish my scene ...
@Deryk: Thanks, ... the horse is still a "work in progress" ... but working on it ... i've started the modification you talked about in my latest post ...

Miezis
04-03-2005, 11:00 AM
that's a great model of horse! I will be doing one as well, so I'll keep an eye on you!

the second idea is siply great! I love the fact that more and more challengers are looking in to history to find ideas!!! rather than to make robots and R.R.Tolkins [no disrespect though...] characters!!!

keep going!

javaejderi
04-03-2005, 11:04 AM
Ave Fred76,
Nice work man, especially the neclace!!! Waiting for your textures!!!
Good luck!!!

Neeno
04-03-2005, 02:11 PM
great concepts so far.. its looking really good... and modeling is looking nice and clean.. great start

Matroskin
04-03-2005, 06:49 PM
Wish you good mood during your work Fred76!
Glad that my suggestions helped a little:)
Wanna see your next updates!

Fred76
04-03-2005, 07:45 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112557527_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112557527_large.jpg)

... first part of modeling for the conquistador's head ...

Fred76
04-03-2005, 08:11 PM
J++ Dragon : Thanks, i'll try to add texture soon but i actually concentrate on modeling ;) ... why is there only 24 hours in a day ... i need more :)
Deryk : every comments helps :thumbsup:
Neeno, Miezis : Thanks :thumbsup:

WimH
04-03-2005, 08:16 PM
Nice concept with that Inca think goiing on. really nice The body and the face of the man is a little too flat in my eyes. But the horse is good.

Peace

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=224025

Lemog
04-04-2005, 06:07 AM
Nice evolution for your project... congrats for the horse, it seem very well... I'm waiting your work on the conquistador's face. And don't forget that we imagine his face, long fine and angular as a very proud Spanish :bounce:

Fred76
04-04-2005, 09:51 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112608311_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112608311_large.jpg)

... firts steps for the modelisation of the Priest's helmet ...

Fred76
04-04-2005, 01:43 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112622213_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112622213_large.jpg)

... next step of modeling the helmet ...

Fred76
04-04-2005, 01:49 PM
@crapple : thanks, the body is not finished at all ... miss many muscles in the centre part of the body ... actually focus on the top of the character ... :thumbsup:
@Lemog: Not shure it will look like a spanish man ... but a fat vicious man certainly ;)

Blaschke
04-04-2005, 10:27 PM
Good work! I love the cap. Just a notice: your hand are too small and too flat. Good luck!

Lemog
04-05-2005, 05:27 AM
I agree with Ke V2 for the hands... and for the helmet, no crits... but I don't want the same to walk in the street :scream: hihi... good continuation !

Neeno
04-05-2005, 06:06 AM
hey there ... i agree about the hands.. and for some reason the helmet looks too big for his head.. other then great model.. really great design for the helmet too.. great stuff

Fred76
04-05-2005, 09:31 AM
@Ke V2,Lemog : Thanks, you are right i'll correct that ... (not in the next capture as it is already done but in the following)
@ Neeno : Thanks, i've made the helmet a little smaller to see if it's better ...

Fred76
04-05-2005, 09:34 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112693650_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112693650_large.jpg)

... i've started the modelisation of the bony of the priest ... i need to round mode the muscles but it's just the beginning ...

Lemog
04-05-2005, 10:12 AM
Effectively, the body start well... just the buttocks should be increased :bounce:

pitiwazou
04-05-2005, 10:47 AM
I'm not fan fo the proportion of the body but is it a good job !!

fellicitation ;)

SaintT
04-05-2005, 11:05 AM
The body is very good:thumbsup: , add him clothes. This picture will be great!:buttrock:

Neeno
04-05-2005, 01:00 PM
lookin better dude.. keep it up

aleinlatin
04-06-2005, 06:45 AM
Looking really nice. Remember that the Incas were really short people (1.5, 1.6 max) but as you show it really well, they were very fit.

Hey, let me know how you go with your fat guy, I just stated Sancho himself, who is fat too. You gonna put a beard on the man?

Keep it up, improving a lot.

Fred76
04-06-2005, 07:35 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112772904_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112772904_large.jpg)

... modified the hands to be less flat ...

Fred76
04-06-2005, 08:06 AM
@Lemog: ... i've changed the hands ... next will be for the buttocks ... Thanks for the comments ... sometimes when you spend many time on an object it's difficult to see which part are wrong ;)

@pitiwazou : ... Thanks ...euh about the proportions ... i took as references my beautiful body (;) ) so according to you i think must stop beer ... just a little one :beer: ...


@aleinlatin: Well both men will be certainly little (an athletic one and a fat man for contrast) ... i'm not sure of the true of the size but i won't make giants nor Pigmee ... for the beard i'll make some tries as i don't want the beard to hide the expression of this face ... maybe a thin beard ...

@Neeno: Thanks

@SaintT: Thanks, clothes will be the next addition to the character after a correct the shape of the character ...

Gall
04-06-2005, 08:45 AM
This is not a monster!!

I like it!

Good way!!Keep on!

But interesting for me the modelling steps..you combinate the big details with small details..Hm..
Cool..
my servant:
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=226450

Fred76
04-06-2005, 02:35 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112798114_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112798114_large.jpg)

... a wire version of my Inca Priest almost finish ... before modeling the clothes ...

Fred76
04-06-2005, 02:38 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112798295_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112798295_large.jpg)

... the same version smooth ...

Lemog
04-07-2005, 05:22 AM
What to say ? very good progress for the Inca Fred :thumbsup:
Just one remark, if we compares with his total musculature, the thighs are still a little thin, but this is not so disturbing, especially which he will have some clothes... good job gars :bounce:

Fred76
04-07-2005, 06:00 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112853632_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112853632_large.jpg)

... a little update for the conquistador's head... i've added the ears now i'll see for proportions and details ...

Fred76
04-07-2005, 06:04 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112853884_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112853884_large.jpg)

... after the wire now the smooth version ...

Fred76
04-07-2005, 06:08 AM
Gall Attila : Thanks, good luck with your project too :thumbsup:
Lemog: Thanks, it's better for me to know all what i must change BEFORE i combine the left part and the right part and make texture :thumbsup:

Fred76
04-07-2005, 02:30 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112884243_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112884243_large.jpg)

... making some tries for the conquistador's head ...

Fred76
04-07-2005, 02:33 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112884398_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112884398_large.jpg)

... another view smoothed ...

Lemog
04-08-2005, 05:14 AM
Hey... you work like a fool mate... so fast :thumbsup:
Just one remark for the conquistador's face... I find that the nose don't make very spanish...
we more easily imagines a conquistador with a fine face, longiligne and a little bit angular... bt if it's your choice... go man...

Je vais louper ton avancée pendant 1 semaine, alors good courage à toi pendant ce temps, see you soon Fred :wavey:

Fred76
04-08-2005, 07:25 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112945156_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112945156_large.jpg)

... still playing with vertex to modify the shape of my master's head ...

Fred76
04-08-2005, 07:30 AM
@Lemog : you're right as usual for the nose ... i thought somethink was wrong in my face, read again your post ... change the nose ... and now i think it look better ... many thanks :thumbsup:

Fred76
04-08-2005, 05:20 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112980856_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1112980856_large.jpg)

... i've made a little test to see if i put a beard or not (shaders and helmet are not definitive at all, just here for the test) ...

hands0nfire
04-09-2005, 02:49 AM
very good model and I wish you the best of luck.. keep rocking!!! and keep the beard

handsonfire
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=223443 3d master and severant

Fred76
04-09-2005, 08:50 AM
and keep the beard

Thanks, finally i think i'll keep it ...

Elendil_le_Grand
04-09-2005, 10:24 AM
ça commence à être bien sympa par ici :)

Bonne suite ;)

3DForEverything
04-09-2005, 11:43 AM
Nice start, prefer the man with the beard too. Bonne chance :thumbsup:

aleinlatin
04-12-2005, 02:24 AM
Dude! Very nice modelling. Geez, wish I could model so quickly. I've been stuck on Sancho's face for a bit trying to get the fat cheeks happening.

With your beard, I think that it is coming along well. remember that you have to dirty it up heaps as the Spaniards of the time were quite dirty. it can come to be a very nice contrast between the Inca (golden skinned and clean, no hair, etc) and the Spaniard (fat, slobbery, dirty and pale).

Great stuff man!!!

bouledpue
04-13-2005, 11:35 AM
Good work Fred. I like the design of your characters

Fred76
04-17-2005, 06:55 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1113720919_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1113720919_large.jpg)

... a test for the shader of the skin ... no bump yet ...

Fred76
04-17-2005, 07:05 AM
@hands0nfire: Thanks !
@aleinlatin: Thanks, i keep an eye on your job too !
@bouledpue: Thanks :thumbsup: ... tu participes pas ?
@Elendil le Grand: Merci !
@3DForEverything: Thanks, i'll definitively keep the beard ...

Lemog
04-18-2005, 06:08 AM
Congratulations Fred... I like a lot his face... really a good design for a conquistador... amacié, les paumettes saillantes, de la barbe... c'est le look adéquate... Continue like that... that's really come interesting :bounce:

Elendil_le_Grand
04-18-2005, 07:47 AM
It's a good up :)

Good work :thumbsup:

Lemog
04-27-2005, 05:29 AM
mmmh... No update my friend ? no time ? I'm a bit sad you know... à bientôt gars :thumbsup: ou alors, tu es en train de nous préparer un truc de ouf dans l'ombre... ne nous fait pas languir plus longtemps...

Fred76
04-27-2005, 10:18 AM
... et non je ne cache rien ... je n'ai pas avancé a cause de problèmes personnels ... donc pas d'updates en vue :( Merci de ton soutien ca fait plaisir :thumbsup: J'essaierai quand même de finir quelquechose ...

... sorry for the time without updates but because of personals problems i can't spend as many time as i wan't on my project ...

Lemog
04-27-2005, 10:34 AM
J'espère que c'est pas trop grave et que tout s'arrange très vite... you have my support Fred :thumbsup:

Fred76
04-28-2005, 12:58 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1114693134_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1114693134_large.jpg)

... a little update with the beginning of a Maya's statue ...

Fred76
04-28-2005, 01:01 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1114693314_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1114693314_large.jpg)

... i started with the face ... now the end of the "body" of the statue ...

Fred76
04-28-2005, 01:04 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1114693458_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1114693458_large.jpg)

... a smooth version ... need to adjust some part ...

Fred76
04-28-2005, 01:13 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1114693983_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1114693983_large.jpg)

... now with some colors and a bump map to add details ...

Lemog
04-28-2005, 01:25 PM
Perfect and sufficient for me... that require only good textures... et ça va rouler... bravo... te revoilà partis à fond les ballons :thumbsup:

aleinlatin
04-29-2005, 12:00 AM
I can only say WOW! :applause:
Your progress has been great. Obviously been checking a lot of National Geographics as your models for the Maya and Inca people and their belonging are quite accurate, trust me, I come from those areas and always have loved to pay lot of attention of them.

You know the chest plate right under his chin? Check this out for some ideas. (http://www.raulybarra.com/museos/joyeria_prehispanica/galeria1.htm) Sorry for no english, but Spanish I think you can understand well enough.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Lemog
04-29-2005, 04:23 AM
Thanks for the link AleinLatin... very interesting, that's remain me my travel in Mexico... :thumbsup:

Fred76
04-29-2005, 09:02 AM
@aleinlatin: thanks for the link :thumbsup: ... i must say that i had problems to find good images references and it will help me to be not very far from reality ! But i think i won't have enough time to do all what i want ... i think i now nead a link to make days longer (maybe 50 hours per day would be fine ;) )

@Lemog : J'espère plus d'imprevus cette fois ... et que cette putain de loi de Murphy va s'arrêter sinon je vais aller le trouver moi ce Murphy ;)

Lemog
04-29-2005, 09:11 AM
@Lemog : J'espère plus d'imprevus cette fois ... et que cette putain de loi de Murphy va s'arrêter sinon je vais aller le trouver moi ce Murphy ;)
Si c'est "Eddy" que tu vas voir... ça devrait aller... à moins d'une bonne dilatation de la rate ou une déformation des zygomatiques... :scream:

Fred76
04-30-2005, 02:30 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1114871413_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1114871413_large.jpg)

... making the environment ...

Fred76
04-30-2005, 02:36 PM
@Lemog : mahleureusement non c pas les loi d'Eddy Murphy :) ... ma connexion internet est même en train de me lacher ... je suis déconnecté toutes les 2 ou 3 minutes ... si je fini le concours je vais même avoir du mal a poster l'image finale ! Bon j'passerai par un p'tit cyber café et j'en profiterai pour boire un verre ;) ... allé je prend de l'avance :beer:

Fred76
05-02-2005, 05:31 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115011879_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115011879_large.jpg)

... i've decided to add a boat in the background ... here the modelisation ...

Fred76
05-02-2005, 05:33 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115011980_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115011980_large.jpg)

... part 2 ...

Fred76
05-02-2005, 05:35 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115012109_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115012109_large.jpg)

... part 3 ... added some details ...

Fred76
05-03-2005, 07:54 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115106844_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115106844_large.jpg)

... an update of my boat ... now i'll concentrate on the front part of the boat ...

Fred76
05-03-2005, 01:47 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115128021_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115128021_large.jpg)

... adding an unicorn ...

Fred76
05-03-2005, 01:49 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115128153_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115128153_large.jpg)

... and now the masts ...

pissaro
05-04-2005, 07:44 AM
Great idea and great models. Good luck.

bouledpue
05-04-2005, 07:53 AM
Yes it's a great model, I like it.

Elendil_le_Grand
05-04-2005, 07:59 AM
Yes it's a very great work :)

Lemog
05-04-2005, 08:17 AM
Hey... you work like a fool mate... you take the turbo-boost for the final way... beautifil ship... I'm waiting impatiently the other details... you rock man :thumbsup:

ilusiondigital
05-04-2005, 08:32 AM
Cool boat, I like the unicorn

gulliver3
05-04-2005, 12:34 PM
great model Fred! it will be a very nice image... :bounce::bounce:









serge

Fred76
05-06-2005, 01:25 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115385954_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115385954_large.jpg)

... added more details ... think i'll soon stop the modelisation as i don't have lot's of time to finish it ...

Fred76
05-06-2005, 01:37 PM
@ gulliver3 , Elendil le Grand , bouledpue, pissaro : Thanks :thumbsup:

@ilusiondigital : Thanks , the unicorn is based on the horse i've made.

@Lemog : Thanks, i don't think i'll put as many details as i wanted because i need more time and it would be finish only for christmas ;)

Lemog
05-06-2005, 01:59 PM
You don't need to put much details if your ship is not view in close-up... that's certainly sufficient... just good textures and run buddy... :thumbsup:

Fred76
05-06-2005, 03:10 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115392226_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115392226_large.jpg)

... more details ...

Fred76
05-06-2005, 03:12 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115392347_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115392347_large.jpg)

... another view ... soon finished the boat ...

Fred76
05-06-2005, 03:18 PM
@Lemog : en fait je suis atteint d'un virus ... le Lemogphilus Détaillus ... qui fait qu'on est pris d'une irrésistible envie de rajouter des détails ;)

... i'll add a few details more then the textures ... i don't get an idea about the flag as i don't have any reference ... i've seen a red cross with a white background but not sure ... if somebody get don't hesitate post ...

gulliver3
05-06-2005, 11:56 PM
@Lemog : en fait je suis atteint d'un virus ... le Lemogphilus Détaillus ... qui fait qu'on est pris d'une irrésistible envie de rajouter des détails ;)

j'savais bien qu'il finirait par faire d'autres victimes...hu hu hu :D:p:banghead:

très très beau bateau Fred... Bravo...:beer::wavey:


very nice job!

Fred76
05-07-2005, 10:16 AM
@gulliver : ouaip mais le problème c que ca se guérit pas ;)

Fred76
05-07-2005, 10:18 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115461101_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115461101_large.jpg)

... think i now get enough detail ... this is my last version before texturing ...

Fred76
05-08-2005, 06:26 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115533610_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115533610_large.jpg)

... i've added the boat to the landscape ... trees are post effects ... temple is a very simple mesh ...

CuneytGuclu
05-08-2005, 06:42 AM
Nice detail man at ship and good texture:thumbsup:

Fred76
05-08-2005, 06:47 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115534866_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115534866_large.jpg)

... i've painted some birds ...albatross near the boat and condor near the maya temple ...

Fred76
05-08-2005, 06:51 AM
@mmaxx: Thanks :thumbsup: ... i'll try to now hurry up as i'm very late ...

Fred76
05-11-2005, 10:42 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115808164_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1115808164_large.jpg)

... making some tests to integrate the foreground vegetation ...

Lemog
05-11-2005, 12:26 PM
Boudiou... ça avance plutôt bien mec... Very beautiful your vegetation mate... :thumbsup:

J'vais le faire en français, j'aurais moins de mal...
Le seul truc qui me gêne, c'est le soleil... 2 points :
- l'effet étoilé fait trop pensé à une abérration optique... due à un appareil photo par exemple... il faudrait peut-être une auréole plus diffuse...
- il fait top pile-poil au-dessus de la pyramide... pour une question de compo, il vaudrait mieut le remonter diagonalement, ou carrément le descendre diagonalement vers la droite, de manière à ce que cette pyramide vienne mordre le soleil... effet d'autant meilleur que le halo du soleil sera plus grand et plus diffus... à mon avis :D

And now, I try it in english just for smile :
Only one element disturb me in your scene, the sun... with two points to describe :
- the star effect make me feel to an optical camera distortion... I think that will be better to have something more diffuse...
- the sun appear for me a little bit too much positionned at the top of the pyramid... certainly better if you move it more low... just behind the pyramid... certainly a good effect...

Courage, c'est la dernière ligne droite... :bounce:

Fred76
05-15-2005, 01:37 PM
Thanks Lemog for comments i'll try to make some modifications :thumbsup:

Fred76
05-15-2005, 01:39 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1116164361_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1116164361_large.jpg)

... i've corrected some proportions for the legs thanks to previous comments ...

Fred76
05-15-2005, 01:42 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1116164526_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1116164526_large.jpg)

... i've modified the light effect, and added the priest to the picture ...

Lemog
05-16-2005, 04:33 AM
Yep... good update man... the sun is really better... just remain the position... but it's certainly a real choice to place it exactly in the middle... ça bosse fort ici... faut pas laisser refroidir alors :scream:
Vas-y Fred :thumbsup:

Fred76
05-16-2005, 06:13 AM
... thanks Lemog :thumbsup: ... for the sun i'll see after i've finished my master as my biggest worry is that my render fails very often due to the big size and my computer ... i must make between 3 and 4 render before one is finish (many problems with the post effects of the software !) ... and moreover tomorrow i can't work on the project so i'll try to finish before the deadline !

Lemog
05-16-2005, 07:10 AM
... thanks Lemog :thumbsup: ... for the sun i'll see after i've finished my master as my biggest worry is that my render fails very often due to the big size and my computer ... i must make between 3 and 4 render before one is finish (many problems with the post effects of the software !) ... and moreover tomorrow i can't work on the project so i'll try to finish before the deadline !
I've too some problems with the post effects in the full res of my pic... the only one solution for me was to render these effects alone... and composite them after in Photoshop... certainly due to the low power of my computer...
I cross my fingers for you Fred :buttrock:

Elendil_le_Grand
05-16-2005, 08:09 AM
Yeah it's a beautifull work :scream: :thumbsup:

Fred76
05-18-2005, 11:27 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1116458850_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1116458850_large.jpg)

... i advanced my horse little by little ...

Fred76
05-18-2005, 11:31 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1116459104_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1116459104_large.jpg)

... another view of my horse ...

Fred76
05-19-2005, 05:16 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1116479768_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1116479768_large.jpg)

... used area lights for the conquistador as for the landscape ...

Fred76
05-19-2005, 05:18 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1116479925_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1116479925_large.jpg)

... i rendered each main element alone (here the conquistador, but also the maya piest ...)

Fred76
05-19-2005, 01:42 PM
Hi,

Thanks everybody for your help doing my picture and your comments :thumbsup: ,
i haven't access to the submit page many minutes before deadline so i couldn't submit all my pictures:sad: , here the final image, i hadn't enough time to finish it as i would but i'll certainly take some time to finish it one day :)

http://www.cryoweb.com/~freddubois/fr/portfolio/imagecgtalkmaster.jpg

Elendil_le_Grand
05-19-2005, 01:54 PM
C vraiment sympa :)
Dommage qu'on voit pas plus le bateau ... D'ailleurs je crois que l'éclairage ne met pas assez en valeur ta scène ;)
++

Lemog
05-19-2005, 03:50 PM
Vraiment bravo... dommage que tu n'es pas eu plus de temps pour terminer... vraiment beaucoup de boulot... 2 persos, 1 cheval, un navire... des statues et un décor de terre et de mer... un sacré challenge... et tu t'en ais vraiment bien tiré je trouve...

I hope you can take time to finish your very beautiful and interesting piece... then... it's not finish but anyway, congratulation Frédéric... you can be proud :thumbsup:

Fred76
05-20-2005, 07:00 AM
@Elendil : Merci, pour l'éclairage j'ai été pris de court (d'ailleurs a la fin je croyais presque que c'était un challenge de speed modeling tellement j'avais pas le temps pour faire ce que je voulais ;) ) ...
@Lemog : Merci, on se donne rendez vous pour le prochain challenge ;) ... pourquoi pas sur ML d'ailleurs ! Ca m'a entraîné, c'est le but ... je vois déjà tout plein d'erreurs a ne pas refaire pour le prochain challenge !

Fred76
05-23-2005, 01:30 AM
http://cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1116811838_medium.jpg (http://cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5660/5660_1116811838_large.jpg)

Here's my final image for this challenge. I wanted to represent a scene where an Inca Priest is kneeling in front of a Conquistador believing he is a God. He gives him a sceptre, symbol of power. The sun falls behind the Inca pyramid to symbolize the fall of the Inca civilisation. I wanted to include each elements which made believe to Inca that Conquistadors were God : coming from sea with big boat, with horses and gun. Now the inca priest is kneelling in front of an human while a few time ago he venerated Inca's god symbolized by statue behind the conquistador.

mmoir
05-23-2005, 12:44 PM
Hey Frederic,
I like the addition of the conquistador to your image:thumbsup: , tells more of a story to your image. I think the tallship is a little off perspective or size wise though. Good job on this and good luck.

Fred76
05-25-2005, 10:26 AM
Thanks mmoir :thumbsup:
Special thanks to the CGTalk team who acted quick in front of problems that some of us had to submit some minutes before the deadline :thumbsup:

bouledpue
05-27-2005, 10:39 AM
I like your image, good work Fred

3DForEverything
05-28-2005, 05:56 AM
... happy to see you finally finished your picture ... Good job :thumbsup:

Fred76
05-30-2005, 05:11 AM
@bouledpue, @3DForEverything : Thanks :thumbsup:

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