Star Wars III Rumored to be a Real Tear Jerker

[Coliba]

leave the lightsabers at home, but don't forget the tissues.



Come on, I don't think the acting will be that bad :wise:

[yog]

I know I cried at the last two :D

[Stimpy]

Come on, I don't think the acting will be that bad :wise:

who knows.. after seeing natalie portman in garden state im not convinced anymore that she can act at all.

[R]

Come on, I don't think the acting will be that bad

Well it was awfull on the last 2, why should this be any different?

Currently producers expect the viewers to be so amazed about the cg tech and sets used (dont get me wrong i´m in favour of cg tech on movies, i'd be a fool if I wasnt since I want to work on that, but I see in some films situations where cg is used, just because its possible and sometimes by the lack of skills of the cast, ex I saw Constantine and at one time there's a women flipping a coin and rolling it on its hand, if u look carefully, that cg... why the hell do u use cg on that? is it hard to spend 10-15 min rolling the coin on your hand?? i find this scene particularly strange since the same coin and gesture is made by another actor, some scenes before and there's no cg there, assuming that its lack of skill by the actress then) and the whole marketing around the starwars world, that anything lucasarts throw at them, they'll be amazed and wont see it and analize it like a film, just because its a starwars...

[rebo]

Faster, more Intense!

[Ed Bittner]

Don't misunderstand me.....I really like Star Wars. The one thing that I think the new ones have been missing is, HEART.You know, those little personal moments in film that speak volumes about the characters. Like when Obi Wan tries tell to Luke,( in " A New Hope" ), who his father was, without actually telling him who his father was. I can see in his eyes, the regret Obi Wan feels, how painful the memory is, and the love he felt for Anakin. Just in that short little scene you can see all those emotions wash over Obi Wan like a tidal wave. Moments like this, are what is missing in the new ones, So, when I hear Lucas say ROTS is going to be a tear jercker, I'm thinking this is just what it needs.
E.

[slaughters]

Like when Obi Wan tries tell to Luke,( in " A New Hope" ), who his father was, without actually telling him who his father was. I can see in his eyes, the regret Obi Wan feels,...None of those plot points had yet been thought of at the time "A New Hope" was filmed. :)

[paulrus]

The reason episode III is going to rule is that someone finally got the courage to say:


HEY GEORGE LUCAS..... YOU KNOW WHAT STAR WARS NEEDS?

IT.........

http://www.phunzone.ca/pics/cowbell.jpg

[INFINITE]

Sorry but the acting in the first few films was crappy, especially Mark Hamill and Alec Guinness, dont even get me started on the lighsaber battle at the end of A NEW HOPE, obi could hardly lift his saber let alone use it ! !:eek:

[danimat0r]

Blah blah blah. And a few years ago, George was saying 'Clones' was nothing like Episode 1. Right. In many respects, it was far worse. Neither film has a single memorable line of dialogue, or scene of any dramatic potency whatsoever. I thougt 'Clones' was terriffic eye candy the first time or two I watched it, but now I just can't stomach a single viewing. 'Sith' will be marginally better than episode 1 and 2 due to certain story-demanded inevitabilities. It will be darker, there will be more 'cool stuff'. But drama? Tear jerking? Gimme a break. The prequels are about as emotionally involving as a phone book.

[lovisx]

I thougt 'Clones' was terriffic eye candy the first time or two I watched it, but now I just can't stomach a single viewing.


Wow I love attack of the clones, but then, I only saw it twice, and the second time was to look at the fx a little closer.

Doesn't it usually go, if you dislike something you stay away from it, and if you like something you watch it too many times?

[INFINITE]

But still regardless of what anyone else thinks too me the whole Star Wars universe and film saga are amazing!! we all grew up them and they are just astounding. Anyone else who can come up with an idea better than SW please go ahead, the thing is as fans everyone assumes their OWN right and feelings about something as if we even own it, it's not ours and anyway noone is forcing you too watch it?

At the end of the day Star Wars rules and Im sure ROTS will be amazing.

[StephanD]

The conversion has already started.

My friends:

"Can this passion be learned?"

Me:

"Not from an incult"

:)

At the same time that I can't wait,somehow I don't want this "last movie" to come out arghh!!!

[Ezekiel19]

George Lucas prepares for the release of "Star Wars: Episode III — Revenge of the Sith."
Updated: 6:33 p.m. ET March 17, 2005LAS VEGAS - Two decades ago, George Lucas pulled off the mask to reveal the face of one of cinema’s greatest bad guys. Now, he’s about to slip the mask back on.


Lucas offered a preview Thursday of his final “Star Wars” chapter, which spells out the last dark steps the once goodhearted young Anakin Skywalker takes to become the villain Darth Vader.

“It’s not like the old ‘Star Wars,”’ Lucas told theater owners at the ShoWest convention. “This one’s a little bit more emotional. We like to describe it as ‘Titanic’ in space. It’s a tearjerker.”

Opening May 19, “Star Wars: Episode III — Revenge of the Sith” brings full circle the mammoth sci-fi saga Lucas began in 1977 with the original “Star Wars,” which shattered box-office records and remains one of the top-grossing movies ever.

Reaction was mixed on “Episode I — The Phantom Menace” and “Episode II — Attack of the Clones,” many fans grousing that the first one was too much a kiddie flick and the second one too sappy a love story. Calling the latest movie a Faustian tragedy, Lucas said he is unconcerned about whether “Revenge of the Sith” draws more barbs from “Star Wars” fans.

“I feel that I’ve made the movie the best I can and it turned out the way I wanted it to be, so I’m happy,” Lucas, 60, told The Associated Press in an interview. “I never try to anticipate what the world’s going to think or even worry about whether they’re going to like it or not. That’s not my job, to make people like my movies. They either like them or they don’t. That’s completely out of my hands.”

The intensity of the action and themes in “Revenge of the Sith” probably will earn it a PG-13 rating, Lucas said. The first five “Star Wars” movies all were rated PG.

Lucas’ entry at ShoWest was preceded by a parade of 21 “Star Wars” stormtroopers in white armor, followed by an actor dressed as Darth Vader.

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Trailer tempts fans

Along with the trailer, Lucas showed the opening minutes of “Revenge of the Sith,” featuring the familiar “A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...” catch phrase followed by the franchise’s rousing introductory music.

The film immediately launches into a space battle elaborate even by “Star Wars” standards as Anakin (Hayden Christensen) and his Jedi knight master, Obi-Wan Kenobi (Ewan McGregor), lead a mission to rescue the kidnapped Palpatine, chancellor of the Republic.

The trailer sets up the rest of the scenario, with the suspicious Jedi council assigning Anakin to spy on Palpatine after his rescue, while the chancellor — the future evil Emperor of the original trilogy — plots to seduce the young knight to the dark side of the Force.

“It’s very dangerous putting them together,” warns Jedi master Mace Windu (Samuel L. Jackson). “I don’t think the boy can handle it.”

Everyone who has seen the original “Star Wars” knows Mace is right. That film opens in a dark, oppressive age a couple of decades after the action of “Revenge of the Sith,” when Vader and the Emperor have conquered the cosmos, stamped out democratic rule and are hunting down the vestiges of a freedom-fighting rebellion.

The end of a long saga
“Star Wars,” “The Empire Strikes Back” and “Return of the Jedi” recount the rise of Anakin’s farmboy son, Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill), who teams with his newfound sister Leia (Carrie Fisher) and brash smuggler Han Solo (Harrison Ford) to take down the Empire and ultimately redeem Vader, bringing him back to the side of the good guys.

Amid the climax of 1983’s “Return of the Jedi,” Luke takes off Vader’s black mask so father and son can see each other face to face in the elder Skywalker’s dying moments.

Luke and Leia’s characters will appear as infants in “Revenge of the Sith.”

The trailer screened Thursday showed what fans have been waiting for since Lucas began the story of Anakin’s journey from good toward evil in “The Phantom Menace” and “Attack of the Clones.” Namely, Anakin in the guise of Vader: Black cloak, mask and helmet, an outfit rigged with life-support devices for Skywalker, whose battle wounds have left him part flesh, part machine.

Lucas knows many fans wanted the prequel trilogy to introduce Vader early on rather than trace Anakin’s downfall from nice little boy to bratty teen to dark knight of the galaxy. “Revenge of the Sith” presents Anakin in Vader’s black get-up only at the very end of the movie, Lucas said.

“Obviously, fans would love to see a movie about Darth Vader running around killing people,” said Lucas, who also was on hand to receive a “galactic-achievement award” from ShoWest organizers. “I’m not telling that story, and I’m not interested in that. That’s not what the movie is.

“This first trilogy is really about the father, the struggles of a father, or a man, basically, to find himself, and at the same time fall into a trap of wanting certain powers, making a pact with the devil and basically spending the rest of his life regretting it.”

[ambient-whisper]

The prequels are about as emotionally involving as a phone book.

haha. best...line....ever!

[lovisx]

I don't know the more times I read it the less funny it got. The first couple of times it was hilarious, but now I can't stand reading it again.

Definetly not as funny as I was expecting.

I think it needs more COWBELL!

[paulrus]

Never speak ill of the cowbell!

[-Vormav-]

I can think of a couple things that could potentially ruin this film:
Hayden Christensen
George Lucas


Well, mostly the latter... But I'll at least go see it. Maybe ol' George will miraculously remember how to direct this time around. :shrug:

[StephanD]

I can think of a couple things that could potentially ruin this film:

Me too but it's not like every other movie is different PLUS with the 'navets' Hollywood has been making lately,SWEpisode3 is certainly hot,maybe too hot!

[Makomako]

Well, by taking Mark Hamil in episode IV V VI, George has to choose an actor with the same charisma in order to be his father in episodes I II III... And here comes Hayden Christensen...

This last episode really scare me...

Space Titanic Opera....

:shrug:

...

[mverta]

“Obviously, fans would love to see a movie about Darth Vader running around killing people,” said Lucas,

He also said that the reason behind the outcry over the whole "Han shot first" thing is because fans really like the idea of cold-blooded murder.

It's a remarkably low opinion of fans he's got there. I suppose this is what happens when you get a billion dollars and hole up in a compound in the mountains somewhere feeding your butter hog kids 24 hours a day.

I guess all that internal angst and hatred for Hollywood had to go somewhere, seeing as he became the very thing he set out to defeat, by his own admission. Too bad it had to be turned on the fans. But then again, I can't think of another filmmaker working on a project he was so eager to finally be done with. So he can "earn the right to make bad movies" as he said.

All this before he sells Star Wars off to television, where its sole purpose becomes keeping you interested long enough to sell you long distance service.

I'm sure ROTS will be everything we've come to expect from this franchise shadow of its former self.

And that is, uh, "all meesa sayin' 'bout dis muy muy bestest movie."



_Mike

[Virum]

Don't misunderstand me.....I really like Star Wars. The one thing that I think the new ones have been missing is, HEART.You know, those little personal moments in film that speak volumes about the characters. Like when Obi Wan tries tell to Luke,( in " A New Hope" ), who his father was, without actually telling him who his father was. I can see in his eyes, the regret Obi Wan feels, how painful the memory is, and the love he felt for Anakin. Just in that short little scene you can see all those emotions wash over Obi Wan like a tidal wave. Moments like this, are what is missing in the new ones, So, when I hear Lucas say ROTS is going to be a tear jercker, I'm thinking this is just what it needs.
E.

I don't think you're going to get any of those moments.

"YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!!1111!!1"

Yeah......

[StephanD]

Actually,McGregor sounds very real in this scene from the trailer...to me though.(unless you meant this as a sarcasm then nevermind)

[richcz3]

Tear jerker. Talk about setting it up for a fall. Can George write and direct a tear jerker?
Maybe there more lines of pain like the chaffing sand in my pants. That will make me cry.

I'm am trying to maintain low to average expectations because I want this last movie to make right was has been done so wrong. He should be strapped and gagged until the film is released to avoid putting his foot in any deeper.

[Virum]

Actually,McGregor sounds very real in this scene from the trailer...to me though.(unless you meant this as a sarcasm then nevermind)

No, I was being serious; I didn't like it. Maybe it was just taken out of context or something.

Of course, I didn't like most of the trailer. Great CGI work, but the trailer itself bored the heck out of me; it seemed very poorly edited. The cheesy lines and acting added nothing to it either.

I have come to the conclusion I am the only one to believe this since I have yet to see another person who didn't love the trailer. :P (exaggerated slightly)

[lovisx]

I'm sure the cowbell as been used in many lured and raunchy situation, but that doesn't excuse my ill use of it,

please forgive me.

[Shrink]

I really hope it's good. Star Wars carries much potential and it seems a shame to see it wasted. Saying that, I can't actually imagine this as much of a tear jerker, there would need to be some serious character development and the death of that character. :p

[ivanisavich]

Haha....George comparing ROTS to "Titanic in Space"....isn't that like...setting himself up for a complete fall?

Most people LOATHE and HATE Titanic!

He might as well have said "Bring out your tissues everyone, because ROTS is going to be like Rollerball with guns!"

But on the other hand, we can certainly thank our lucky charms that Georgy Porgey didn't get DiCaprio to play Darth....or Celine Dion to do the soundtrack....:D


...but with that said....the effects look freakin' awesome! w00t!

[BigJay]

Amid the climax of 1983’s “Return of the Jedi,” Luke takes off Vader’s black mask so father and son can see each other face to face in the elder Skywalker’s dying moments.

Luke and Leia’s characters will appear as infants in “Revenge of the Sith.”



This just reminded me.... I wonder if Lucas will redo the last movie and put the new Anikan's face in the costume... and there glowing at the end.


shudder...

[StephanD]

They had the modified version of the trilogy on TV a couple of weeks ago.

The glowey Anakin has been replaced by Hayden C. and I must admit it feels very ackward,I prefer the originals,in fact,I prefer the Ewok song ending.

The scene where Luke take the mask off would've been unnecessarily hard to do.

[danimat0r]

Wow I love attack of the clones, but then, I only saw it twice, and the second time was to look at the fx a little closer.

Doesn't it usually go, if you dislike something you stay away from it, and if you like something you watch it too many times?


The thing is, I *liked* it at first. I liked it the first several viewings even! But once the eye candy wears off and you're left with character and writing to carry the experience, hoo boy. Then the experience starts to suffer, and I realized that narratively, there's really not much of interest.

[BillSpradlin]

They were all entertaining for me. I didn't go in expecting this great story line, acting and writing, because why would expect that after seeing the first 3 films? They had poor acting, the story line was so so and the effects were spectacular for their time. Why on earth would you expect anything else for these new films? You've got to be high on crack or kidding yourself to even have a complaint about the acting in these films when it was quite apparent that that was not the focus of the first three. Give me a break.

These new films follow that same trend, poor acting, story isn't incredible and the effects are great. Sometimes you should just go into a movie accepting it for what it is, an entertaining visual ride, that's all Star Wars films were and that's all ROTS will be.

[Berserga]

Most people LOATHE and HATE Titanic!

Yeah that's why nobody went to see it and it was a huge financial flop... (snort.) :p

Anyway. should be cool to see once or twice. I enjoyed Attack of the Clones, but I do agree with every negative thing said about it. It's not a "Great" film by any stretch, but in my book if something is entertaining, it's good.

Now, Lucas should be burned at the stake for butchering his past films. :wise:

[StephanD]

hehe yeah.

I really don't think the movie will be a tear jerker,that's just what George feels about it.

There was great emotions in the older movies especially the "Binary Sunset" "Obiwan Death" scenes (ANH) and the last two movies also had their intense moments but you have to wonder how much John Wiliams is behind this.

[jake_$teed]

I'm sure I'll be crying.

[Shrink]

The overrall storyline isn't too bad. At least in Episode I (TPM), which I think had a very good story.

[lovisx]

The thing is, I *liked* it at first. I liked it the first several viewings even! But once the eye candy wears off and you're left with character and writing to carry the experience, hoo boy. Then the experience starts to suffer, and I realized that narratively, there's really not much of interest.
sorry, Your right I guess, I like the adventure of star wars, and the exploration. Once the effects ware off on you, I guess these aspects get lost.

[paulrus]

Episode VII - exclusive sneak peak!

Yes - it's true - Lucas has been working on Episode VII in secret.

Here's a sneak peak at one of the new Imperial robots, the "FAT-FAT" walker. It's a revised version of the AT-AT and includes a complimentary Buzz Lightyear costume.

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/ne/p/photo/expo05_walk_382x569.jpg



Hey it's Friday!

[paulrus]

And the new villian "Darth Ellington" takes takes the Stormtroopers in an unexpected direction - employing the "Walls of Jerrico" attack on anyone who opposes him.

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/ne/p/photo/expo05_band_500x352.jpg


It's craptacular!

[Artbot]

Tear-jerker???

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...

(takes breath)

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAAHAH!

[Gelero]

I can think of a couple things that could potentially ruin this film:
Hayden Christensen
George Lucas



Ok. I have been reading Cgtalk from a long time and this is by far the most stupid and ignorant thing I ever read.
Ohhh ! I am sorry! Not THAT much. You can be right about Hayden. He is a JUNIOR. He is young. A very very padawan-actor. He probably cannot make it alright. But he will learn.

Now, about GL, you just loose the oportunity to shut your mouth dude.
We are talking about HIS history. HIS film. HIS LIFETIME project. So, show some RESPECT. He can make what HE wants with that thing. You dont have a gun aimed at your face making you to sit down and watch the movie.

[Don Kayote]

Im sure he will be tear jerking for star wars :scream:

http://www.b0g.org/wsnm/article/18476

http://www.b0g.org/wsnm/uploads/starwars.jpg

[Virum]

Now, about GL, you just loose the oportunity to shut your mouth dude.
We are talking about HIS history. HIS film. HIS LIFETIME project. So, show some RESPECT. He can make what HE wants with that thing. You dont have a gun aimed at your face making you to sit down and watch the movie.

Uhhh, nobody is disputing that it's his project.

Anybody can film what they want to, but it doesn't mean that it's going to be good, and it doesn't mean I have to respect them.

George Lucas is not some kind of God that we have to respect and not say how we think he'll ruin this film. For myself, I think he will.

[enygma]

http://homepage.mac.com/cheier/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/pics1/DarthVaderCowbellOdn.gif
"The Cowbell is strong with you..."

[SheepFactory]

http://homepage.mac.com/cheier/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/pics1/DarthVaderCowbellOdn.gif
"The Cowbell is strong with you..."


Thats just too funny :D

[INFINITE]

STAR WARS RULES !

“I never try to anticipate what the world’s going to think or even worry about whether they’re going to like it or not. That’s not my job, to make people like my movies. They either like them or they don’t. That’s completely out of my hands.”

quite right too! Good man!

VIRUM could you have written and directed the first 2 films any better? :)

Gelero: your right the guy totally deserves some respect!

[Virum]

VIRUM could you have written and directed the first 2 films any better? :)

I dunno. Never said I could though.

However, I have written and will be directing my own indie film this summer. After I release it, you can feel free to tell me that it sucks ass and that I have no right to criticise George Lucus. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I am entitled to think that George Lucas isn't a good director/writer (anymore at least).

Plus the "could you have done it any better" argument is worthless. I can't create hardware for my computer, if a buy a product that is defective (not as in fluke defective, as in a product where all of the products made were defective), I'll be pissed. However, according to the "could you have done it any better" argument, I'd have no right to be.

[Geta-Ve]

honestly speaking i thought obis line in the preview had alot of power to it "YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!"

man that moved me... no joke..

[AngryScientist]

I'm bringing two boxes of tissues with at the premiere and throwing the used ones at anyone who angers me, so beware..

[BillSpradlin]

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Originally Posted by Gelero
Now, about GL, you just loose the oportunity to shut your mouth dude.
We are talking about HIS history. HIS film. HIS LIFETIME project. So, show some RESPECT. He can make what HE wants with that thing. You dont have a gun aimed at your face making you to sit down and watch the movie.



Uhhh, nobody is disputing that it's his project.

Anybody can film what they want to, but it doesn't mean that it's going to be good, and it doesn't mean I have to respect them.

George Lucas is not some kind of God that we have to respect and not say how we think he'll ruin this film. For myself, I think he will.
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No one was saying he is a god, but the man has been around much longer than most of us in this field, thus give respect where respect is due.

Maybe you missed that in one of your classes at school.

[G3D]

I have a feeling that stating "its a tearjerker" will set it up for failure. I watched the trailer, too, and there is nothing to distinguish the trailer from either of the first two movies, which had some nice effects but were otherwise terrible.
The guy who play Anakin has an uncertain effeminate waver in his voice and delivery that ruins it. There are parts of the duel between the Anakin character and Obi-Wan that were shown on 60 minutes that were just plain silly. Here is a link. (http://img206.exs.cx/img206/910/rotssabertwirling3se.gif) The Duel is supposed to be dark, serious and grave, even according to Lucas himself. That lightsaber twirling reminds me of that pudgy star wars kid twirling the double lightsaber that was everywhere on the internet a couple years ago.

How will people years from now view the series when they see the movies in numerical order? The darth vader character is robbed of mystery by even unmasking him, let alone doing the prequels with a bad actor. I can't help but think of that skinny, whining bad actor being behind the mask when I watch the originals now.
In the trailer, even the guy who plays the Emperor seemed hammed-up and shakey. I don't have hope for even a halfway decent movie at this point, and I used to be a die-hard. At least the effects might be good.
:shrug:

[Virum]

No one was saying he is a god, but the man has been around much longer than most of us in this field, thus give respect where respect is due.

Maybe you missed that in one of your classes at school.

The age card gets pulled again on me. :)

I do respect him for the technilogical advancements he has made (jumpstarted); certainly. However, I do not respect him as a good director/writer.

His best work was the Indiana Jones movies. The first Star Wars are decent, but they aren't too magical for me; I've also felt like I've outgrown them. I just don't like them.

I also don't think that he's a good director/writer. I don't care how long he's been doing; it doesn't change the fact that I don't think he's good at it.

John Woo (I think that's the name) has made quite a few movies as well. Should we respect him for that?

EDIT:

Your sig "Think for yourself, question authority." has me in LOL mode because I am thinking for myself, and you tell me that in so many words that I'm wrong and nothing more than a rebel punk who doesn't respect his elders.

[Don Kayote]

^^ Yeah! let's all respect the guy that made Barney the Movie :D

[dtaznpride]

Uhhh, nobody is disputing that it's his project.

Anybody can film what they want to, but it doesn't mean that it's going to be good, and it doesn't mean I have to respect them.

George Lucas is not some kind of God that we have to respect and not say how we think he'll ruin this film. For myself, I think he will.

he cant possibly ruin his film because it's HIS film, only critics and may i say those ppl who hate his guts can ruin his films, personally i believe the first three films are three of the best films in american cinema, they explore a lot of relationships between the characters, adding the sound and story lines make it an entertaining and thought provoking films.....about the last movie, reserve ur comments and criticisms when u've viewed the film...lucas deserves that much from the fans :)

[Virum]

he cant possibly ruin his film because it's HIS film, only critics and may i say those ppl who hate his guts can ruin his films, personally i believe the first three films are three of the best films in american cinema, they explore a lot of relationships between the characters, adding the sound and story lines make it an entertaining and thought provoking films.....about the last movie, reserve ur comments and criticisms when u've viewed the film...lucas deserves that much from the fans :)

And Uwe Boll (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0093051/) (not John Woo [not that he's great], I was thinking of Uwe Boll though) didn't ruin House of the Dead, and Bloodrayne isn't going to be a ruined film because HE made it.

According to your argument no film can be ruined or bad; it's just how the director wanted it to be.

That's bull.

You are welcome to hold the opinions you do about the original trilogy; I did not see them in the theater when I was young, and they don't really hold a special place in my heart. I liked them when I was 6-11 or so, but I don't really care for them much anymore.

I did see the trailer, and I am saying it didn't impress me (isn't that what trailers are supposed to do?). I'm not saying the film sucks, I'm saying it looks like it will suck, and I base my opinion on the actual trailer for the movie.

[Geta-Ve]

personally i believe the first three films are three of the best films in american cinema,

an entertaining and thought provoking films.....a

lucas deserves that much from the fans :)

best in american cinema!? thats a riot. oh wait, you were trying to be serious :eek:

thought provoking? how so? theres no thought needed in those films.. no real mystery, heres the characters, heres the fight, heres the dilema, watch and have fun. a beautiful mind was thought provoking... but sw?! :argh:

and ya lucas deserves that much from the FANS... however lucas has lost alot of "fans" from the first 2 movies. myself included. however thats not to say i dont think this movie will rock, because there are many parts that look to be insanely good, obi wan power speech, chancellors arrest scene, yodas fight, wookies. pretty much every battle in the movie.

however the scenes im not looking forward to are the ones with portman, and christiansen. they are (imo) horrid actors.

i think this movie will be a FANTASTIC edge of your seat action movie, but apart from that, it will blow... hard... chunks... eww..

EDIT: I know your opinions are your own, and your allowed to have them, but im just saying some of those opinions seem like your just trying to blindly defend star wars..

And Uwe Boll (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0093051/) (not John Woo [not that he's great], I was thinking of Uwe Boll though) didn't ruin House of the Dead, and Bloodrayne isn't going to be a ruined film because HE made it.

well SOMEONE ruind it....

[Virum]

well SOMEONE ruind it....

It was sarcasm. :)

[Geta-Ve]

It was sarcasm. :)

oh :p my bad.. hehe ^_^ you were scaring me for a second, haha

[murtle]

... leave the lightsabers at home ....

So may the darth bring it own?

http://www.freespaces.com/murtle/images/philips.jpg

... some teardrops inescapable while jedi order is falling.... and saga of SW are ending.

[kromekat]

Anybody can film what they want to, but it doesn't mean that it's going to be good, and it doesn't mean I have to respect them.


The very fact that since you are on this website, and possibly involved or at least interested in modern film making and CG, means you should have respect for GL since he made much of it possible one way or another.

Some of you guys behave in such a juvenile manner, and such ignorant perspectives on SW and 'what it should have been' etc, I find it hard to believe many of you have finished puberty yet!? - grow up! - it's GL's vision, it's massive - way beyond anything most of us will even dream of achieving, and it's fueled the imaginations, developments and technology of a generation or two of creatives!. What have you done? :rolleyes:

[JMcWilliams]

Although I'm not the biggest fan of the new moveis so far (although I enjoyed watching them nethertheless, for what they are) I still think that Lucas provided me with so many films that I loved when I was a kid, that I'll always be appreciative for that.

[lovisx]

looks like anakin has sacumed to the power of the cowbell


yeah there should be some respect for this director, even though some of its corny, the overall vision is massive. No other director has done what he's done

[Boone]

Alright, the buck drops here.

You all know me and you all know I love the new Star Wars films just as much as the first ones...but a "Tear Jerker"?

Oh, do put it away George! :rolleyes:

I must admit that the end of Empire Strikes Back backs me all emotional... :sad:

[Virum]

The very fact that since you are on this website, and possibly involved or at least interested in modern film making and CG, means you should have respect for GL since he made much of it possible one way or another.

I do respect him for the technilogical advancements he has made (jumpstarted); certainly. However, I do not respect him as a good director/writer.

Some of you guys behave in such a juvenile manner, and such ignorant perspectives on SW and 'what it should have been' etc, I find it hard to believe many of you have finished puberty yet!? - grow up! - it's GL's vision, it's massive - way beyond anything most of us will even dream of achieving, and it's fueled the imaginations, developments and technology of a generation or two of creatives!. What have you done? :rolleyes:

I don't have any ideas on how he should have done Star Wars; however, I don't think he did the last two well. Yes, it is his vision I guess, but I don't have to like how he's realized it.

What have I done? Considering I've been working on a feature length screenplay for the better part of a year, I do have an idea about how much work and how much of yourself goes into that. However, just because I've put so much work into it and so much of me doesn't mean that it's good; in fact, I recently did quite a big re-write because I realized that a few of the scenes were utter crap. In fact, some of the dialogue was worse than some of the stuff in Star Wars. :) I'd cringe reading it on the paper. Can't imagine how it'd look on the film itself. *shudder*

BTW you're right. My voice is still cracking, I just started growing arm hair. You are very intuitive to gather this information by observing that I don't think GL is a good writer/director. :rolleyes:

I don't think I'm being hateful about Star Wars; I'm certainly not mindlessly flaming it or GL. Why is it such a sin for me to think that GL isn't a good writer/director?

[Boone]

Re: Virum.

YOU...YOU DARE...DAAAAAAAAAAAAREEEE SPEAK OF GEORGE LUCAS AND YOURSELF IN THE SAME BREATH! HERETIC! DEVILLLLL! :eek:

Its okay, cos I too think Mr Lucas could do with some more lessons in Directing. I think his direction of action etc is awesome but his actors have an aura of "spare ones at a wedding" feel to them...he should really let them have their own way a bit more. Hayden Christensen was really restricted in AOTC...shame as his other efforts are much better. :hmm:

[Ezekiel19]

Here's the reason why some scenes might be emotional.


The manner in how they die.

*Without spoiling many of you its a natural born fact that prior to SW Episode 4 lots of Jedi get killed and slaughtered.

Mace Windu death scene is probably going to be the most powerfull. I've seen it and read it, and if it survives the final cut. His death scene is by far kick a--(in that the fight sequence is awesome) but emotional as to how it turns out.

But why emotional? Here's why. Dramatic irony. Mace was in all 3 films from start to finish and ironically objected to Anakin being trained as a Jedi in Phantom Menance. That change in decision without a doubt will do him in(in this Movie) Hint Hint.

*We all know how tall those buildings are on Coruscant right? Suffice to say in ROTS, Mace will bear witness to just how tall those buildings are.


WHere's Padme in the Original Trilogy? Answer she's deceased

In ROTS we'll see why and how she ends up that way. If you read Orthello then u know who kills Padme, but do you know WHY ? and How ?


Jedi master Yoda may be 900+ years old

But in ROTS Master Yoda becomes distraught and emotionally weak at the lost of a dear see friend(See above info about Mace Windu)
-yet still finds strength in him to go take on Palpatine/Lord Sidious in a one on one lightsaber battle.
-The trailer shows a more defensive Yoda oppose to a more offensive Yoda we saw in Attack of the Clones.
-In short Yoda lines to Luke in Return of The Jedi holds true "Luke, do not underestimate the power of the Emperor.." This movie will tell us why he said that to Luke.

A friendship comes to a End. A father and Son relationship or Sibling Relationship Turned upside downl.:thumbsup:

Anakin vs OB1

any 1 remember the handshake between Ben Kenobi and Anakin(as a child) in Phantom Menance aboard the Queens ship?.
-They wont be dear friends at the end of this movie trust me
-The emotional strain is great OB1(teacher) must now go put a end to his friend(student) His friend has pretty much killed and murdered people of the Jedi order.
-This is a conflict issue, your friend and Padawan for 13 years+ has pretty much made it to where he must be detsroyed.
-Look at OB1 facial expression in SW "A New Hope" when he mentions how Anakin " was a cunning warrior and a good friend." Then the sad expression he has when he's asked how did Lukes father die?

In the Episode 3 trailers.........we see and hear a OB1 scream "you were suppose to be chosen one." Its no big secret that OB1 wins this dual but at what cost? And what does he have to do in order to win.

If there where 3 judges watching this rumored 10 minute dual, all three judges would have to score Anakin as winning the fight. The sad part and emotional part is when the teacher has to go for the TKO and use methods unorthodox by Jedi in order to save himself, and render his student *unable to fight* Sort of like the twisted end of "A Million Dollar Baby" where the looser cheats to win due to the fact that there loosing point wise.

THIS SCENE WILL BE VERY EMOTIONAL IF EDITED RIGHT AND THE RIGHT THEME MUSIC PLAYED.

The stund coordinator said after making this scene and watching Vader vs OB1 in Star Wars a new Hope he couldnt help but get teary eye'd.

Look at OB1 face in "A New Hope " when he enters the hallway and see's a Darth Vader standing there suited and saber ignited. ^5 For GL right here.

There are other emotional scenes. If you have a favorite Jedi other than the most fmaous ones they all pretty much have death scenes in this movie. The Clone Troopers, and Gen Grievious all take care of that.


The Biggest Emotion of All

Will be that this is the last SW movie in general to be made to hit the Big Screen.

Many who hate SW or dont like like. I feel sorry for you because you probably werent there in 1977 when these movie pretty much changed the way movies r made. U werent even there to remember the Hoopla and "the taking off work for a full day" just to see a 2 1/2 hr movie.

You've only seen the last two on the Big Screen and maybe the originals on VHS or DVD. So you cannot know the emotional backing all these movies have.

But the Circle is near completion and on May 19th it surely will be.


-Keith

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Haven't you guys seen the first two films?

Fool me twice, shame on ... shame on you, Fool me... you can't get fooled again!

[G3D]

Haven't you guys seen the first two films?
Fool me twice, shame on ... shame on you, Fool me... you can't get fooled again!
Right on. The only good thing in the last one was Cristopher Lee and the FX.

A father and Son relationship or Sibling Relationship Turned upside downl.
I don't know of any Star Wars character that hung upside down like a bat. Unless you mean luke in Empire.

[Gentrifier]

This may have already been said, but how is this a rumor? It's hype from the studio and George Lucas. The movie will suck, the emotional quality will suck. Natalie Portman stinks as an actress, so don't look to her to help turn it into a tear jerker. While Christensen is a much better actor than Lucas will let him be, don't expect that to change. Titanic in space? Please.
Is there supposed to be a love story in there anyway, or is it just two opportunistic teenagers who humped one night and increase the population by two? Maybe we'll have another kissing scene in this one to match the kissing scene in EP2....holy shit that was bad.

If Lucas had any sense at all, he'd take his desire to continually revamp his movies over the years and let a competent director and writer take a crack at what is generally a decent storyline. Redo the entire series. Let the grassroots endeavour begin now! Or not....

Gentrifier

[MK2]

whatever GL says in the interviews...

I saw the first movie in cinema.
The 2nd on DVD from a friend.
And i will see the 3th part on TV, maybe. More by accident then anything else.

The funny thing is i really dont like StarWars anymore (which includes the "old" movies).
Thnx to the new movies and the re-super-digital-great-master-whatever-processed-special versions of the "old" movies.

[lovisx]

Cristopher Lee

that's pretty much sums up what I didn't like about episode II

[FabioMSilva]

I think chewie will proof to be the best actor in the movie.

[FabioMSilva]

Here's the reason why some scenes might be emotional.


In ROTS we'll see why and how she ends up that way. If you read Orthello then u know who kills Padme, but do you know WHY ? and How ?


-Keith

yeah, if we saw Anakin killing padme by soffucating her like the guy in the Gladiator did to his father (the emperor ) with the nice music , it could be a quite dramatic moment

[G3D]

They took potshots at Revenge of the Sith during weekend update.

[dtaznpride]

best in american cinema!? thats a riot. oh wait, you were trying to be serious :eek:

thought provoking? how so? theres no thought needed in those films.. no real mystery, heres the characters, heres the fight, heres the dilema, watch and have fun. a beautiful mind was thought provoking... but sw?! :argh:

and ya lucas deserves that much from the FANS... however lucas has lost alot of "fans" from the first 2 movies. myself included. however thats not to say i dont think this movie will rock, because there are many parts that look to be insanely good, obi wan power speech, chancellors arrest scene, yodas fight, wookies. pretty much every battle in the movie.

however the scenes im not looking forward to are the ones with portman, and christiansen. they are (imo) horrid actors.

i think this movie will be a FANTASTIC edge of your seat action movie, but apart from that, it will blow... hard... chunks... eww..

EDIT: I know your opinions are your own, and your allowed to have them, but im just saying some of those opinions seem like your just trying to blindly defend star wars..



well SOMEONE ruind it....

if ur going to quote me, quote me accurately, i said "three of the best films in american cinema" i didn't say "best films of american cinema"...and yes it is thought provoking.....i.e. the relationship between man and machine (r2 and c3p0) .....friendship (luke, leia, and han)....trust (han and lando).....fighting for what they believe it.....never giving up even when it looks like it cant get any worse.....and having "good" in u even when u say ur totally evil....the movies showed us that everyone one has "evil" in them, and at the same time u have goodness in u, whatever u r....whoever u r......oh and virum i didnt see them in theaters....and dont tell me u werent move a single bit when vader lifted up the emperor and threw him down the shaft....oh and i dont defend my beliefs blindly.

[Gelero]

Well, this topic is the REALY tearjerker.
Reading all those posts almost make me cry.

Answer me please... What is the pleasure, the primary objective in making so many *unfair* critiques ? Well, from yours point of view, the hole star wars package is nothing more beyond CRAP. yeah!! POO! A pretty waste of our time.

How can a such thing like Star Wars raised by a lot of ATTENTION, a lot of care and dedication be so damn bad? Ok. The screenplay writer, creator and major director(GL), the directors(besides GL), the actors(ford, hayden, ewan, ian, portman, hamil, jackson)(lee got saved) are just NOTHING. They are so bad, that they doesn't add ANYTHING POSITIVE to the thing.

Maybe I can be classified as a fan boy. But I am at least capable of realize the mistakes, the "easy viewing" errors, the cons at all. And as well, enjoy the pros.

I am sad right now because I just realize that some of you are just pointing the errors without any respect or fair judgement. "Oh man . He stinks! This ****ing movie stinks."

Well, as I said before. You really dont have a gun aimed at your face making you to go to the movies. Or, you can JUST push a button and turn the tv off, saving yourself from this DRAMATIC and TERRIBLE ACCIDENT.

I am over it.

[Boone]

I thought Titanic was crap. The work by Digital Domain was good stuff...but the film itself...urrgghhhh. I suppose , though, one can see the spectacle of being on one of the largest ships to hit the seas and the inevitible peril...just couldn't stand the characters and the acting. I found it very hard to sympathise with the characters...I suppose many could argue the same about the new Star Wars prequels... :hmm:

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