My third model...

[LucentDreams]

very nices illustrative image I can almost see it in a magazine, almost mainly because it is currently hard to read the text.I would adjust the lighting direction a little just to make the text more readiable, otherwise this would be ready for publishing, and a good cause too.

[tkay]

Very nice! :thumbsup:

My suggestion is that the link should come straight out from the lockbase and start bending into 8-shape a little later so it would look like someone really has bent a lock into the shape of the cancer logo (i bet noone understands a word i´m saying.. :rolleyes: )

[stevedeer]

Thanks guys

It's amazing how 'blind' you become when working so intensely on something, here's my next attempt taking into consideration your comments.

I've added a couple of points to the sweep spline. Also, I've reduced the strength of the bump and moved the main light from the right towards the centre a little.

The bump is flat mapped, do you think it would look better cylindrical mapped?

Cheers

Steve

[tkay]

Now, that´s just great!

[amapimaster]

tricky this one - cos your trying to incorporate the cancer logo into the bend of the lock (im guessing?), the first image is more logo like, but the second image is more realistic in how a lock would bend... I prefer the first one for this reason...tell me if im totally of track here!

[Grey]

I agree with amapimaster.

The second's realism diminishes the effect.

[LucentDreams]

Hmm looking at it I think I'll go with the flow against Tkay (sorry tkay) and say the fist one had a clearer symbol. the first image makes it clear that its the cancer ribbon, the second People more familiar with cancer might recognize but it looks just like a bent lock. as for the text, much better, but I tihkn part of the prbolem is the font, its quite close together ans sort of bold, Perhaps try a font thats a little more spaced out but it is readable as is too.

[bjotto]

I would do a bending that is somewhere between the two. To make the text better I would add a blueish light. Otherwise really good (A lightyear ahead of my third model)

[tkay]

Ok. So i will never ever talk to you guys again..! :annoyed: :D

Actually, there might be a tiny bit of sense in the opinions above...

[LucentDreams]

maybe if you added creases right in the bottom so its looke like it was bent but keeps the angles to show the ribbon shape?

[matty2x4]

hope this dosen't sound to out of place but...
I would leave the text off it and then place it on in photoshop. It would work better for print res and its more editable without re-rendering all over again. Just use the layer style bevel and emboss on nice clean un 3-d'ed text.
sorry this is all only relevant if its gonna be a still... if not ignore my ranting.:p

[MJV]

Very nice. Did you think of this yourself? If so it's top drawer. I agree about needing to choose a more legible font, keeping the logo aspect tight, as in the first one, and now for my suggestion, I think you should put some pink on one side of the reflection map.

[LucentDreams]

Originally posted by MJV
Very nice. Did you think of this yourself? If so it's top drawer. I agree about needing to choose a more legible font, keeping the logo aspect tight, as in the first one, and now for my suggestion, I think you should put some pink on one side of the reflection map.

I love the way this man thinks ;) definitely put some pink on the reflection map, with that in there it really reinforces the symbol.

Matty has a good point, I don't know how long this takes to render, but it may be a timesaver to do the text in photoshop, and almost equal in quality, definitely possible way of doing it if needed, but if it renders fast, I would just focus on the font, making sure its easy to read.

[stevedeer]

Hi all

Thanks all for your helpful comments, here's the final image with a little pink in the reflection of the bar.

I'm working from an actual lock and I wanted the typo to be a little 'niaeve' (spelling?), not beautifully kerned etc.. but realistic.

I think the low res jpegs didn't do the typo justice.

Oh and yes I thought of the image myself... I'm a freelance art director.

Regards

Steve

[stevedeer]

here's the base close up...

[MJV]

Originally posted by stevedeer
Hi all

Thanks all for your helpful comments, here's the final image with a little pink in the reflection of the bar.

I'm working from an actual lock and I wanted the typo to be a little 'niaeve' (spelling?), not beautifully kerned etc.. but realistic.

I think the low res jpegs didn't do the typo justice.

Oh and yes I thought of the image myself... I'm a freelance art director.

Regards

Steve

Well it's really effective. It made me want to immediately reach for my checkbook. You should try to sell the idea to breast cancer and aids charities. I'm kind of stupid about copyright issues. Is it possible to copyright the idea, and if you put your name on the image with a date, does that constitute a copyright of just the image, or both the image and the idea which it is so closely linked to? In any case I'd be worried about someone stealing the idea.

[stevedeer]

Hi MJV

I emailed a copy to the head of marketing at Cancer Research UK.

She replied with 'people don't like to be locked in to that kind of commitment'. These people (in the UK at least) tend to nervous about pushing creativity.

What's the top US cancer research (charity) organisation, I might send it there.

Steve

[amapimaster]

Looks great now!

Im pretty sure that you automatically have some sort of "design right" copyright protection as soon as you create something...? I have very vague memories of a distant lecture at uni regarding this.

In fact - your concept is so strong that I thought it was a commissioned piece!

[matty2x4]

Give the "wellcome trust" a call. They are near off the end of Totenem court Rd in london (regents park end). I worked for there publishing dept, nice people and they sponsor all sorts of medical related art shows. Yes thats wellcome with 2 L's. You never know. Sorry I cant give any names its was in 1995... not sure if anybody I met is still there.
2x4

[neilyb]

I do believe that if you were to put the idea in an envelope, seal up the envelope and send it to yourself recorded delivery you will then have proof of the date you came up with the idea!!! Provided you don't open the envelope.
I forget where I read this, but it is not a bad idea I think??

[kiwi]

Thats really powerful,excellent work :thumbsup:



I think the thing with the text is that because the bevel is quite pronounced that the shadow of the letters competes a bit much with the letters themselves and makes them hard to read.



That would brilliant in an ad campaign with people or an environment reflected in the metal,but having the people or environment moving across the lock from left to right...would look stunning :thumbsup:



I would put a copyright symbol on it from now on whenever you post it.If you have one of those cameras with the date that shows up in the print I would take different images of your file in the veiwports in C4D,then show them to friends or even a solicitor so you have witnesses as I agree someone will try and steal that idea for sure.



Stu.

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