Office Girl, Andrew Hickinbottom (3D)

[Fede]

Your work is just flawless, i find it fantastic.

Sorry i couldn't give a more educated comment but the image is just perfect.

By the way, the vertical line running down her stocking, very sexy touch.

looking forward to the animation.

[Versiden]

no replies?

this is awesome dude... great poses... :thumbsup:

[ymqworks]

Nice works. I like it.

Can you tell me how do you rig the cloth?

[StephD]

just perfect :thumbsup:

[AndHolzmeister]

this work is super super....

Everything is fine, smoth mesh, clean wireframes, perfect shapes, good light, you´re done man!

[AlyFell]

No crits Andy! She's smashing! What's next for her...?

[florian]

...and during night, she's working in a strip club :D


The only thing I would change is the hair shader

ah...forget it...
its just wonderfull. 200stars from me

[agasco]

nice modeling, SEXY character.

[shserge]

Very funny :) I like how it's done :)

[stingray_b5]

Man, she's soooo cute. :) Excellent poses too. Great job on her facial expressions. :thumbsup:

[j3st3r]

:thumbsup:

very very cool character!

[guillom]

very good job Andy !

the wires are very clean and the renders are amazing !

others variations of this litlle woman planned ? :)

[hansworks]

nice! i love the style

[Dutchman]

Indeed she looks reaaaally sexy ( :bounce: ) and she emits kind'a personality...! Just great work! And by the way, the lighting also looks superb (for sure even more if you know its only Max :cool:)!

I can't wait for the short!!!

:rolleyes: :applause:

[fabriciomicheli]

I would love to have a secretary like this one he he he...

Amazing work pal! Really like the poses.
Would love to see her in motion... :thumbsup:

[CyberMtl]

I Swear i thought of this when i first sow your bunnygirl. i said to myself: "she would be a perfect secretary"!
anyway, as the bunnygirl, she is flawless. Great job :thumbsup: .

[Ste-One]

I'm in love!
Perfect!

[fattersyf]

I almost follow in love ~~haha ,charming girl
I like your work ,great character

would you make some animation for her?

[CuTnPaste]

WOW....

fi-fiiiiiiiiiiiiiuuuuuuuuuuuu

she is nice.

good work
:thumbsup:

[KaDDD]

excellent ! ! !the model is always also pretty, the expressions and the posing very expressive and succesfull, cheer still


keep it up , man !! and make another shoot please, she so pretty !!

[jdsb]

WOW,she is very hot:eek:

[dcmoutinho]

nice job, very sexy

[ziopredy]

Wow, amazing work, the character is pretty and sexy! Bravo! :applause:

Alessandro Briglia
www.briglia3d.it (http://www.briglia3d.it)



(http://www.briglia3d.it)

[furo]

great variation,really great!:thumbsup:

[AndyH]

Cheers for the replies folks. I know its a bit cheap posting a redress of a character i did previously, but i actually prefer office girl to bunny girl - shes got more character and detail.

Fade - Glad you like the old-fashioned seamed stockings - i got the inspiration from the ace cover pic for the film 'secretary', as well as 'other' images :D

Ymqworks - the skirt is just sharing the envelope between the pelvis, lower spine, and the 2 thighs. To Make the skirt fold over when the legs are crossed, i cheated and modeled it to fit. When it comes to animating it, ill probably use a dynamic cloth simulator.

Posh - I plan to make the nerdy office guy next. See my WIP thread for my idea and scenario. If i get bored with him, i might make a test animation of office girl like i did with my bunny girl recently. In the meantime, im just gonna take a break, catch up on some sleep, and think hard about the definitive plotline for my short.

Florian - Hmm... I think a strip club is a bit sordid for bunny girl - the appeal of her is that shes sexy, but not sexist or demeaning (i hope). I kinda agree with the hair comment - some pics look better than others, but compared to the incredibles hair (actual dynamic strands) its a bit plasticky.

Guillom - Id like to make the other variations of her like bikini girl, cheerleader, nurse etc, but they wouldnt fit into my short film idea. Unless i do a series of them where theres a different dream sequence in each episode.... hmmm......
I want to make a short film instead of a bunch of still images, so i think ill press on with the 3rd character and the office environment.

Fattersyf - soon.... soon... Im working on it.


The incredibles is coming out on DVD this friday, so it should hopefully give me a massive boost of inspiration to get crackin with me animation!

[ashakarc]

Incredibly distracting person at work, besides my wife will never allow me to hire her.

Your talent is beyond normal praise.

best,
ashakarc

[florian]

Florian - Hmm... I think a strip club is a bit sordid for bunny girl - the appeal of her is that shes sexy, but not sexist or demeaning (i hope).


Sorry. It was not meant this way. I fully respect stripper and bunny girls.
It's just...well...your work is inspirationell :D

[Dorcus]

Very good job!! Can't wait to see the animation!!!:buttrock:

[ToddD]

She has got pollies in all the right places hehehehe :)
Beautiful!

[TDT-Digi-Guys]

Hi Andy

5 stars from me :thumbsup:

Really nice - only 2 thoughts - why not make her brunette? It might give her a different look to the Bunny Girl and her skirt in the sitting pose looks odd.

As a person that wears a skirt :D every now and again, they bunch up in different ways (which is why you always see women in the office adjusting their skirts when they stand up).

But, once again, another great model!

Let's see her on the frontpage - it makes a change from concept art & sc-fi babes!

Tracy T

[Woodys3d]

She looks very nice, with this dress and with the bunny one. Great work!!! Looking forward to see that short.

[ODoul]

I really like this. :thumbsup:

[nuclearbum]

hey, that's a really cool model. i like it better than the characters from the incredibles (that is the style you're kinda going for right?). she's got more class. so is she going to be busness woman by day and bunny girl by night? or are those supposed to be two separate characters?

i was wondering for you rig if you are using a cloth simulation for the skirt or if you're just working with physique to make it magically blend well especially in the shot where she's got her legs crossed.

[lsj]

verygood!the character is interesting to be vivid !

[sanakthe]

like the style, nice man :applause:

[AdrianWilliams]

again nice work dude, the expressions are spot on!

[herbertV399]

Andy H

Wonderfull work - from the proportions - till to the posing. Even the prolonged legs on the right are a masterfull touch. Excellent achievement of personality. It reminds me of the 60s Disney models - you not just mastered to recreate disneys mastery, but also to keep your own style.

Congratulations - PIXAR is you place.

[HapZungLam]

The Incredible style. I love it

Great model and pose. great job.

ps. more work on textures is needed.

[obelisk]

Guillom - Id like to make the other variations of her like bikini girl, cheerleader, nurse etc, but they wouldnt fit into my short film idea. Unless i do a series of them where theres a different dream sequence in each episode.... hmmm......
I want to make a short film instead of a bunch of still images, so i think ill press on with the 3rd character and the office environment.

Hey Andy,

Great work as usual. Far as the other versions idea goes, maybe you're short could be a series pilot instead. Then the opening titles could have all the variations in different situations, montaged ala Charlies Angels (the series, not the movie). Looking up seductively from a martini, jogging in the park, pointing a gun at a bad guy, skydiving, whatever. Be a great little showcase for the reel...

Keep it coming

-O

[ROWAN]

jaw drop all i can say is that is.......its........ just..........just lovely .right up my street the models wireframe flows beautiful. the character very cool indeed :buttrock:

[smaddl]

she is very lovely :bounce:

[Thewipe]

beautiful .......poses are great

[ynlay]

beautiful girl ,she is very sexy :love: :drool:

[Djampa]

Very kool char, congratz !

[sullivan]

it's very good I like it very much so sexy

[ftorrev]

I like the smooth. Have u got the phone of that girl? :thumbsup:

[diocletian9]

Wonderful - a great example of just how cool non-realism can be

[Fungusmonkey]

Again: Just like the bunny girl, I love the style. I'm almost fed up with people modeling perfectly accurate humanoid models. I think more people should be trying to find a fun style that they like. The only thing I can think of to comment on is that I'm not too fond of the shader for the stockings. Usually, nylon stockings tend to have a slight falloff effect, being lighter head on, and darker as they wrap around the leg. But the shader you have on it right now almost makes it look like her legs are made of plastic.

Overall, I think that this is going to be an excellent short, and I wait in great anticipation for it.






......oh yeah, let's not forget the requisite: DAMN SHE'S SEXY!!! WOOOO!!!




..ahem. Good work.

[-HQJ-]

good,gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood

[NemPhas]

Hey absolutly stunning work, nice clean modeling and reallt great cloth work :thumbsup:
Some of the best character work I've seen this year.

[AndyH]

Cheers very much for all the comments - it was a nice surprise to see it moved into the choice gallery too!

After watching the incredibles DVD this weekend, im looking forward to animating her - seeing the bits with mirage and the outstanding facial animation on everyone has given me a big kick up the behind in the inspiration department!

Tracy - Glad you liked it. I actually did a few tests with her as a brunette, and it looked good, but the bright blonde hair was one of the most recognisable things about her, so to change her hair colour might be a little too much. And i agree with the skirt, but it looks satisfactory considering that theres no cloth simulation on it (yet). Hows WarDevil going?

Nuclearbum - Office girl and bunny girl are both the same woman - the bunny girl is either a daydream version of her, or her other job - im not sure yet. Im still working on the plot for my film. The whole thing is skinned using max's skin modifier. No cloth plugin yet, but ill consider it for the animation.

Obelisk - Great idea you have there! I want to try the different costumes i have planned sometime, and that sounds like a good oppurtunity. Its a lot of work though. Ill stick with the office scenario for now - who knows, i may expand it to include other lifestyles!

Fungus - Yeah, the shader for the stockings was hard to do. There is actually a falloff shader in the diffuse channel, but if i made the edges too dark, the legs as a whole look too dark. Getting the sheen on them was even harder. I used an anisotropic shader to get the specular to fall in long lines.

Ive made a start on the office nerd guy - take a look:
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?p=2059529#post2059529

[Maxander]

Sorry,I'm french and i don't speak english verry well but this women is very beautifull...god work

[Gaara_06]

I like the Character design for her she is so cute she could be a character in the movie incredibles thats's Kinda how the design looks. well good job I can't wait to see more of your work and your animated short.

[tienj]

amazing work,.... she looks so sexy~!!

[arneltapia]

I also work in Max doing character models, just curious how much time did you model this pretty character?

[learner88]

when i saw her with the bunny clothes i saw that she looked Ally mc Beal..now...:D


Very nice!

[TDT-Digi-Guys]

Good to see her make the Choice Gallery :thumbsup:

You have no excuses now - you have to make the short film!:)

WarDevil is progressing well - we're on our Easter Vacation at the moment (we get real holidays at Digi-Guys).

I'll be starting another recruiting round soon (it never seems to stop!) - all the construction is finished at the Ealing Studio now - so there's going to be a lot of work when we get back!

But enough of that - how about some more renders of the Office Girl - all the boys seem to like her - I think it's love :love:- so you need to keep them happy!

Bye for now.

Tracy T

[teteille]

Hello, that's my first message on this wonderfull site. Its a real pleasure for the eyes, thak's to all.

That girl is very funny, when I see her, I'm waiting for Roger Rabbit. The poses are perfect and she looks very nice. Congratulations. Give us an animation soon please ! :bounce:

[Teratron]

Awesome work man!



Just a small suggestion, the deformation in her elbows seem to be a little off, maybe play with the skin morph modifier. I only noticed it because everything else is so flawless.



Great stuff keep it up!

[GemuhDesayinah]

Have you considered rigging your Office Girl & Bunnny Girl up for Curious Labs' Poser? I'm sure there are literally hundreds of Poser users that'll be willing to purchase your model and pay for add-ons! This could make you a pretty penny!

Or maybe you could a deal with deal with DAZ (www.daz3d.com (http://www.daz3d.com)) similar to that which they made with Kim Goosen's GIRL. Check out the DAZ website for an example of an industry that can set up based on one toon character.

Best of luck!

[Alden]

HAHA Great twist on the bunny character! :thumbsup:

~Aldo

[ScottishPig]

Oooh. Sexy. She's got awfully small feet though- seems a bit disproportional... and I know that follows along the style of the image- but, still, somebody with that thin and ankle and small a foot wouldn't survive in heels.

[UltRaNOL]

This lady seems to be alive even if she's not animated yet ^_^. I really like this cartoonish style. I think that the general design is too close from the incredibles (you're were talking about mirage, and yeah, your inspiration is obvious :) ). But this is so incredebly well done, in all the artistic and technical aspect... :buttrock:

[Kid-Mesh]

Damn she is sexy....

[C-A-U-T-I-O-N]

wow this is really great! your meshes are always so clean! i definately think office girl oozes alot more sex appeal! congrats on getting your work into choice gallery again! a job well done! ;)

[ares623]

this is by far me FAVORITE work in here. i LOVE it! :bounce: i LOVE the bunny girl too
great job!

[velan_rajan]

Hi man...

Really cool work...the girl looks gud..http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

[hellu]

Very nice :thumbsup:

[Markavian]

Echoing everyone else, the style and cheery cute gorgous nature of her is brilliant. The hair is the only thing I'd flaw, but hell - you can't compare this to the incredibles, they had big budget renderer's surely and loads of time. for a small project, I think your quids in with the simple hair line and quick(?) render times.


Ace job, inspirational.

[AndyH]

Echoing everyone else, the style and cheery cute gorgous nature of her is brilliant. The hair is the only thing I'd flaw, but hell - you can't compare this to the incredibles, they had big budget renderer's surely and loads of time. for a small project, I think your quids in with the simple hair line and quick(?) render times.


Ace job, inspirational.

Well said - the hair could be better as proper, simulated hair strands, but after seeing the incredibles dvd commentary and hearing brad bird talking about how tough the hair and cloth was, it made me appreciate how damn complex it is to get right. And yeah, the render times are pretty fast considering.

[shinja]

beautiful work andrew.... she has a lot of character.:thumbsup:

[OTO-ACP]

Yop!!! :bounce: Good environment!!! I like much the style, modeling is clean... Good road!!!... :buttrock: Sorry my english!!!... :blush:

[eric-jordbo]

Yeah! that is just awesome! great modeling!

[Barf_cg]

:drool: Dude. Amazing. No further comment.

[aliasali]

Wow! Simply Amazing...so sexy!

and u know the elements of designing such characters,very nice job!
keepitup.

[jamieuk3]

Awsum my man... I'm a total newbie to the 3D moddeling, first year uni actually but you inspire me man. The first render i seen of yours was your bunny girl a couple of weeks ago and I was in awe.
I thought it was perfect in everyway. Very smooth finnish, well proportioned and overall amazing.
Your latest is no dissapointments. It's equally as great as your last but sumwat supirior in its own way.
You inspire me man, keep em coming.

Jamie, (jimi, jimi man, not rly fussy :p)

[ravage386]

Wow... simply amazing work... I have a few nitpicky details; the hair seems too shiny where it bends IMO, but then again I couldn't properly light a box. It's still awesome though, the expressions are perfect. I also like the playboy bunny on her necklace if my eyes don't deceive me. Nice touch.

:D

[Lérot]

Very Nice job,....:thumbsup:, i've the impression that you've a problem with your skinning at the knees !,....When she's get up,......


But Good job men !

[thedoc]

you probably wont see this but here it is...

I downloaded your WIP thread and i must say that i'm truly impressed! nice!

[gui_mends]

No crits too!
really a perfect n sexy character!
congrats...
bye =]!

[AndyH]

Happy Easter!

I couldnt resist.....

http://www.btinternet.com/~chunglist2/Images/Gallery-Personal/Bunny-Girl-Easter.jpg

[obelisk]

nice one andy, and congratulations on the making of feature over at networks.

happy easter to you too.

-O

[Markavian]

Neeat..


Personally I was a bit worried where the giant egg came from - did you slim some weight off her hips? :D


I was just checking her proportions against the main characters from the incredibles - you've given her much sleeker legs that don't distort much at the knees. The incredibles' characters have really comic proportions in comparison to her - and I like your's better. I did wonder why they made them so extreme whilst pumping 'realism' into everything else in their movie (jungle, water, city, etc.)

[Niphilim]

I really love this character :love:. Great work again.

[unicop]

great .you have shoose the correct lighting angel . wish you the best

unicop

[Reule]

Love the character. Love the shading.

Any tips for her riggin? I wonder how the skirt works when she walks...

Congratulations, excelent job!

[gra7]

i saw a playboy girl just like this one,.. hehee
great work !! :thumbsup:

[MrGrinch]

As always, amazing work Andy H. You've managed to capture just the right balance of cute and sexy :). I look forward to your animation of her.

[kharondroid]

Good work,style of the 60's cartoons.
Very good posing...
I like to see more characters.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Ramon]

Hey Andy, I have got to say, I love it! Love the style, the design, etc, etc...

Very cool my friend!:thumbsup: Keep it rollin!

[ThreeDeityMike]

That looks great man. I loved the playboy bunny, and I like this just as much. Congrats

[Matroskin]

Hey Andy H,
I love realistic cartoon style and your girl is just rockin'!
Maybe just shadows could be more contour-evident, cause it is not qute clear distance between her right leg and floor...
Anyway, good job!

[APD-Jack]

Congratulations meeaan :thumbsup:
It's realy reaaly looks nice.
The only thing that bothers me is deformation of the arm! :shrug: Looks it's not deforming properly. I think you should touch up a little more. Then, very sexy lady will be wait us to watch her :eek:
Great job
Keep good working

[XYZRGB]

Front page for sure !

Perfect. :thumbsup:

[Vinicius B. Silva]

Hi....Andy H, MAN!! its model this very good one!!!:eek:

astelavista baby:twisted:

[Trep]

well done again. you've got a really good style of work. well done with nerd and bunny girl aswell.
:applause:

[Cygnus-X]

nice style she is really convincing great job !

[mogla]

Nice face and hair, shame about the knees. hehe.

Hmmm, and a butt like Mrs Parr.:thumbsup:

Beautifully stylish artwork, congrats

[bahamuts]

Very nice work ,I wish she were my secretery,

by the way isn't this the same character as Bunny in CG Articles ??

[AndyH]

Very nice work ,I wish she were my secretery,

by the way isn't this the same character as Bunny in CG Articles ??

Yup. She is actually office girl, but the bunny girl is how the office nerd (see the link in my signature) sees her in a daydream he has.
Im working on a short film. I have the 'plot' set up and ive storyboarded it. Im currently working on the environment and composition/ framing of the shots.

[Markavian]

Can we see the storyboard once you've finsihed it? Or will that spoil everything. I'd like to learn a bit more about how you put the animation together.

[AndyH]

Yup. Will do.
Once im happy with the cuts and the compositions, ill post the storyboard while im setting up the scenes and the lighting.

[Zeratuhl]

Wow. Simply amazing. And I don't know why, but for some reason I prefer the greyrenders over the final ones.

[goktugg]

looking so pretty! beautiful 3d progress:) good work :thumbsup:

[tgfx]

super stuff man...Love the mesh look.

[tonyg3d]

Wished she worked in my department!

Great modelling. Real style.

Nice one.

[AndyH]

Thanks for all the comments.
Have y'all seen my other character? Compared to the amount of replies office and bunny girl has been getting, hes been somewhat neglected! But then again, hes not in the choice gallery, and hes not a hot, curvy girl either....
Office girl, bunny girl and office nerd are all characters for the short im working on at the moment.

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=227128&highlight=office+nerd

[johnhulkster]

The model looks really slick, it's considerably low poly too. The shading is very stylish, both the hair and cloth looks nice. I luv the glasses, it makes the office lady feel so stront!

[ChanceXUAN]

I really like your works,and believe it or not,they help me figure out my own style more or less!Tanks!!I like the bunny girl more,haha.They are EXCELLENT!

[nlcold]

Nice job! Studying!

[SearchIn]

I think I liked her better as the playboy bunny but this is a flawless change.

[veteehrri]

Great style, i love it!!!

[Kitsuken]

Awesome work. This really makes me want to try my hand at some character work.

You planning on working for playboy at some point? (you could probably get some private live modelling sessions ;))

[shreyshahi]

Great work. The girl looks cute and the work is flawless.
Keep up the good work

[Lalecp]

that looks perfect, it looks like somthing that would be in the incredibles

[jpthedesigner]

yes. indeed. 5 billion stars from me ^_^

[Parky]

How did you get the model? did you start from a free model, or did you start from scratch?

[squeezestudio]

wow! she look`s sexy :) . really nice model , the design is perfect !

[streetsy]

I love this model because it has a pleasant 2D quality to it. I love 2D cartoon characters and interpreting them into 3D. If thats what you set out to do then it works very well. Great job. :)

[Antonizzle]

Simply incredible! Your use of lighting is great, and I can't seem to find anything worth critiquing. I can't wait to see the "Office Nerd." Keep up the excellent work!

[Ramteen]

I like ur fantasy world of ur mind man . :D
No any to say , just perfect :D

[Amilton Diesel]

Amazing work! Love the shape style, it's so...female. You did it very well.

[Weisz]

I've been following your work since the beginning of your Bunny Girl character and I figure that it's time I chime in and say that I love your work and can't wait to see Bunny/Office girl and the Office Nerd animated.

[mindrot]

Quality work Andy....

:thumbsup:

[oxyg3n]

Great Stlye for you characters.

[ucandesign]

It's cool Modeling

[Cubby]

SO,I really like it . Nice Model !!!

God ,,help me!

[osunkingo]

It's so nice.

[duddlebug]

A fantastic model Andy. Is this bunny girl in the day job, then..?

She's so foxy. And she's pushing the buttons that Bunny Girl missed. And that wasn't many. I had a fling with a bank worker when i was 17 and she reminds me a lot of her. Good on ya!! The problem with working in the games industry is there's so few 'office girls' to oggle...

(And thanks for sticking me on your links page! I'll return the favour next time i update! I love your 3D models!)

[AndyH]

Cheers mister duddle (i just love that surname!)
I really want to get on with this short film ive got planned - its just too much hard work at the moment!
As for office ladies - i know what you mean :D - but theres plenty on the train of the morning!
Strangely enough though, it was mirage (from incredibles) in her brief cameo in her office clothes that inspired this.

[duddlebug]

Good point... trains are great for appreciating the lovely british office girl. I used to get the train when i worked at Warthog. But i was on my bike, and smelly and sweaty and covered in oil and wearing shorts (even in Winter), so i think they worried i'd scuff their briefcases with my derailleur... or snag their stockings with my pedals... sigh...

A short film sounds interesting. Although no matter how 'short' a short film, i know they can be mind-blowingly time consuming.

(And just to add... the incredibles is just such and incredible film)

[thejotham]

I like the character design quite a bit. The pantyhose texture gives the whole thing an almost fetishistic pin-up quality that is great. Well done.

[GeoGraphiX]

Very good looking model,i like the cartoon style :),keep it up

[FalseEye]

I remember seeing this model a few months ago, and being inspired by it. After taking a few modeling classes since then, I can better appreciate the quality of your models. Just wanted to let you know how much I admire your work.

[Rikolas]

I'd hit it.:thumbsup:

[narutochen]

hi there I love your Office Girl great modeling skills nothing to say here KEPP UP THE GREAT WORK:buttrock: I will give a 5 star rate!

[enthombed]

Man, i like so much your blonde model lol, but my choise is the bunny style, eheheh, amazing works you have pal.

Congratulations again

Icaro

[dahoo0810]

Great character once again...its cool to see how you went from bunny girl to office girl because they are like the same character yet completely different. Great concept!

[TakoMaki]

Wowwwwww Terrrificc
Nic Work Dude, How Did You Made The Blazer ???

[okiko]

A magnificent work of modelling.
clean and effective.
Bravo.

[mayafishing]

WOW, very stylish models and the gestures are just...amazing and.. sexy.

Fantastic modelling you have there. Great works

[tiggerhans]

This is really state of the art, and I would love to see a movie taking shape with this lady as the main actress. Should be a sexy and funny movie. Maybe something for Pixar. Let her do some auditions there, maybe she can show up in The incredibles 2?

[lmancg]

Wow. Great wire, great textures, great lighting. And I LOVE the gestures. So animated and alluring. Will we be seeing an animation, such as this :bounce:? After all, bunnies do bounce.

This is great work! Wish I could do more work like that, 'tis still a journey for me.

BTW, I almost never use smileys when I post. Congrats! :applause:

[PabloG]

Nice style, I like it!

[smallone3d]

Hey Andrew

Love your style, Been looking at dif models and yours really sticks out.
Got some questions:
Have you had any luck with the dynamic clothing?
Also, are the heels part of th main geometry? How is this rigged?

[SJM]

Great stuff like usual man, 5 stars from me :)

[furbit]

When I first began character modeling your character work was very inspirational. There is a fun element that can be found in every model that you do.

[thermite321]

great I have no crit.

but how did you create the clothing

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