View Full Version : Just got an MX1000
santosLord 03-12-2005, 03:33 AM Hi everyone..
Just wondering why the MX1000's back and forward buttons don't work on Firefox?
It works fine on IE. Just wondering.
This the best mouse I have purchased yet..
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RusMan
03-12-2005, 06:39 AM
I had the same problem with my MX1000, all you have to do is go to logitech utility and assign firefoxs forwatd and back shortcuts to those buttons, which are Alt+left and Alt+right.
santosLord
03-12-2005, 08:51 AM
Thank you RusMan.
blacknoise
03-12-2005, 09:58 AM
tell me guys what do you think about mx 1000 as im looking forward to buy it.
thx
imashination
03-12-2005, 11:00 AM
Search the forums here. IMHO the mx1000 is crap. There are ways arou d the firefox issue, one of them being to not install the drivers, but then that misses the point.
thx1138
03-12-2005, 11:43 AM
IMHO is not crap at all. Very acurate. Nice grip. No charge/recharge issues. Simply a very good mouse. I don't use Firefox, so wouldn't know if there are issues with that. But IE is good enough. I try to spend my time doing CG instead of jerking around with more and more new programs.
blacknoise
03-12-2005, 12:13 PM
hmm... do you find this mouse heavy?
DanSilverman
03-12-2005, 12:17 PM
IMHO the mx1000 is crap.
It would be nice if you would back up a statement like that with at least a few reasons. If you were to say, "I hate it because of its color scheme!" then I know I can ignore you ;) . If you give a sound reason then perhaps someone would want to consider what you say.
IMHO is not crap at all. Very acurate. Nice grip. No charge/recharge issues. Simply a very good mouse.
See? He made his statement and then attempted to back it up. That adds value to what was said.
BTW - I agree. The MX1000 is not a bad mouse. In fact, I think it is a great mouse. It has a nice weight to it (I like things that are feel sturdy and not cheap), it is comfortable to use over long periods of time. It is very accurate, even on smooth surfaces, and the battery seems to last a long time. The older MX700, while also a good mouse, needed AA batteries to run it. They just did not seem to hold a charge as long as the battery in the MX1000.
Oh, and I am having no problems with the MX1000 and Firefox.
akdsn
03-12-2005, 02:10 PM
lord_rms - you can install logitech setpoint software and after that you can exit it and remove from windows startup folder. when you disable setpoint back and forward buttons works ok. do not uninstall logitech software because without it mx1000 works strange (but with this software also ;))
mx 1000 is a nice mouse but series mx 500/700/900 have better ergonomic. i really hate mx1000`s scroll. it`s too big and it`s impossible to use this fooking roll as a middle button in any cad or 3d software where the middle button is top essential.
i`ve been saerching non ligitech drivers/software for mx1000 to change scroll left/right function to middle button. anyone knows this software?
alexyork
03-12-2005, 02:19 PM
lol Matthew :)
if I had the choice, I would not buy the MX1000 again, unless I was feeling really flush. It's a GREAT mouse make no mistake. it is rather heavy, but you soon get used to that and it actually results in being more precice (no more travelling cursors) because it sits very still when you let go.my old intellimouse was wobbling all over the place. this mouse works on just about any surface you can imagine. (i frequently use it on my knees when I'm feeling really lazy). tbh though, I agree, the drivers are pretty appauling - I had the same problem with the 'Fox and some other apps. not too impressed with that at all. the whole laser thing does mean good accuracy, but I only noticed a tiny improvement over standard wireless opticals.
overall, I'd probably spend half the cash and get a mouse that's about 99% as good. (probably another logitech).
blacknoise
03-12-2005, 02:22 PM
ill stick to my old good ms explorer then... ;) (i mean the mouse hehe)
alexyork
03-12-2005, 02:30 PM
oh yeh, the battery sucks. yes, it's cheaper than using standard batteries because it doesn't need to be replaced, but I'm an NiMH junky, and those things last for months before needing a boost and a good year or so before they need to be replaced. Works out better than the MX1000 battery. This MX1000 battery dies every 5 days or so, and I never manage to notice it needs recharging in time! I always seem to be starting the day with 1 battery node left, so by the time I'm in full-swing with work the thing bloody conks out and I have to switch to my wacom for 24hrs. As pretty as those 3 LED lights are, I need some kind of mega alarm bell to ring when it's on red so I get it in the caddy in time. My bad, but still...
just thought I'd mention it :)
imashination
03-12-2005, 04:22 PM
It would be nice if you would back up a statement like that with at least a few reasons. If you were to say, "I hate it because of its color scheme!" then I know I can ignore you ;) . If you give a sound reason then perhaps someone would want to consider what you say.
See? He made his statement and then attempted to back it up. That adds value to what was said.
BTW - I agree. The MX1000 is not a bad mouse. In fact, I think it is a great mouse. It has a nice weight to it (I like things that are feel sturdy and not cheap), it is comfortable to use over long periods of time. It is very accurate, even on smooth surfaces, and the battery seems to last a long time. The older MX700, while also a good mouse, needed AA batteries to run it. They just did not seem to hold a charge as long as the battery in the MX1000.
Oh, and I am having no problems with the MX1000 and Firefox.
As I said above, search the forums. This topic has come up numerous times. The mx1000 problems are very widely documented, but Ill quickly run through them here anyway:
- The time it takes to begin tracking a surface is the biggest annoyance. Depending how you work, it takes up to a second for it to start tracking the surface after being placed on a surface. If you want to drag-lift-drag-lift.... to navigate around your project then by the time you reach the edge of the mouse mat it hasn't even noticed it has been placed on a surface, hence the pointer doesn't move.
- Its heavy. This isn't really a complaint, just generally pointing out that all wireless mice are a lot heavier than corded mice.
- you have to move your thumb to press the thumb buttons. Which einstein thought of this? I want my mouse buttons under my fingers, im perfectly capable of moving a mouse without gripping it like a monkey and pressing buttons by accident.
- The scroll wheel is as stiff as a 16 year old doing video editing at the playboy studios. This is down to personal taste, but as I press all my buttons all day long, my finger hurts after an hour, especially as the scroller is so thin.
- The page up/down buttons at the ends of the scroll wheel are so small, stiff and out of reach that theyre pointless.
- The thumb rest is designed for girls. Anyone with a remotely manly thumb will find it uncomfortably small. The V-shaped recess makes your thumb ache after a day.
- The software/drivers are crap. I want my back and forward buttons to just send the standard system 'back' and 'forward' signals. This way any browser or bit of software that supports it will work. Instead they install a crud little plugin into IE only so it can pick up these signals. This stops the extra buttons from working with any other browser, game or 3d app unless you specifically reassign them.
- The amazing 10x better surface tracking is utter rubbish. Any remotely decent optical mouse will track any surface except glass and mirrors. Some have a problem with wooden veneers (sp?) The mx1000 tracks just as many surfaces except glass and mirrors and it too also struggles with wooden veneers, so nothing new there.
It could be a great mouse, its shaped and sized nicely. But the non standard drivers, stiff wheel button, slow tracking and badly placed buttons more than outweigh its advantages.
IMHO the best mouse ever made was the original MS explorer, the nice one with large buttons that were actually under my fingers. Give it the optical system of the modern ms mice or logitech mx series and it would be perfect. Now ms have also gone with badly placed buttons, a stiff wheel click, no more wheel notches and a cheap processor which causes a 250ms delay on anything but the two main buttons.
<- Annoyed.
DanSilverman
03-12-2005, 05:52 PM
- The time it takes to begin tracking a surface is the biggest annoyance. Depending how you work, it takes up to a second for it to start tracking the surface after being placed on a surface. If you want to drag-lift-drag-lift.... to navigate around your project then by the time you reach the edge of the mouse mat it hasn't even noticed it has been placed on a surface, hence the pointer doesn't move.
This is not the case with the MX1000 ... at least not the one I have. I create real-time 3D content for a living, play real-time 3D games and model in 3D software. I am constantly moving and doing the drag-lift-drag and I find that the MX1000 has NO lag time what-so-ever. This is my experience with it.
- Its heavy.
I like that about it, but that is me. I like things that feel solid as if they are not going to break.
- you have to move your thumb to press the thumb buttons. Which einstein thought of this?
I personally like where the thumb buttons are placed. I don't want buttons under my thumb as I work. I would rather move my thumb to access the thumb button if I wanted to.
- The scroll wheel is as stiff as a 16 year old doing video editing at the playboy studios. This is down to personal taste, but as I press all my buttons all day long, my finger hurts after an hour, especially as the scroller is so thin.
I don't find it so. The scroll wheel on the MX1000 is positioned a bit better than the MX700 and, as a result, you have more of the scroll wheel to touch. It does not seem stiff to me at all and I use it constantly to scroll and as a middle mouse button in many applications, especially 3D apps. My finger does not hurt after a full day of using it and I am often at my computer for more than 10 hours in a day.
- The page up/down buttons at the ends of the scroll wheel are so small, stiff and out of reach that theyre pointless.
The more I read your post the more I feel like you are talking about the MX700. The up/down buttons are not small on the MX700. They are not stiff in the least and they are certainly not out-of-reach nor are they pointless.
- The thumb rest is designed for girls. Anyone with a remotely manly thumb will find it uncomfortably small. The V-shaped recess makes your thumb ache after a day.
This is total rubbish. I am a fairly decently sized guy and I have no problems with the size of the space for the thumb. You must have the "girl" hands since your finger hurts from pressing the middle mouse button and your thumb hurts from the thumb rest ;) . (please notice the smiley :) )
- The software/drivers are crap.
All works fine here. I have never had to uninstall anything or change any parameters in any of my software in order to get it to behave with the MX1000.
- The amazing 10x better surface tracking is utter rubbish. Any remotely decent optical mouse will track any surface except glass and mirrors. Some have a problem with wooden veneers (sp?) The mx1000 tracks just as many surfaces except glass and mirrors and it too also struggles with wooden veneers, so nothing new there.
I cannot comment on the 10x better tracking as I have no way to determine that. But I can see the MX1000 laser works better on more surfaces than the MX700 optical does.
<- Annoyed.
Why? Because you were asked to defend your position?
Rabid pitbull
03-12-2005, 08:19 PM
I have one of these and find it to be very accurate and comfortableto use. I have been a logitech fan for a long time, I have triedother mice and always fing that they are not a accurate or comfortable. I was very suprised by this mouse, not expecting a cordless mouse to be as accurate. The batterry life on this is incredible, I get a full week. I am usually in front of this machine about 10 hours a day. I can comfortably say that this mouse is as reliable asany other mouse I have used. I spend alot of time in photoshop, xsi, and even find time to play some games ut2k4 and hl2.
imashination
03-12-2005, 11:10 PM
This is not the case with the MX1000 ... at least not the one I have. I create real-time 3D content for a living, play real-time 3D games and model in 3D software. I am constantly moving and doing the drag-lift-drag and I find that the MX1000 has NO lag time what-so-ever. This is my experience with it.
I like that about it, but that is me. I like things that feel solid as if they are not going to break.
I personally like where the thumb buttons are placed. I don't want buttons under my thumb as I work. I would rather move my thumb to access the thumb button if I wanted to.
I don't find it so. The scroll wheel on the MX1000 is positioned a bit better than the MX700 and, as a result, you have more of the scroll wheel to touch. It does not seem stiff to me at all and I use it constantly to scroll and as a middle mouse button in many applications, especially 3D apps. My finger does not hurt after a full day of using it and I am often at my computer for more than 10 hours in a day.
The more I read your post the more I feel like you are talking about the MX700. The up/down buttons are not small on the MX700. They are not stiff in the least and they are certainly not out-of-reach nor are they pointless.
This is total rubbish. I am a fairly decently sized guy and I have no problems with the size of the space for the thumb. You must have the "girl" hands since your finger hurts from pressing the middle mouse button and your thumb hurts from the thumb rest ;) . (please notice the smiley :) )
All works fine here. I have never had to uninstall anything or change any parameters in any of my software in order to get it to behave with the MX1000.
I cannot comment on the 10x better tracking as I have no way to determine that. But I can see the MX1000 laser works better on more surfaces than the MX700 optical does.
Why? Because you were asked to defend your position?
It seems very likely that they have released a rev.2 or something then.Myself and 100's of others have returned the mouse because of the main tracking problem, there's absolutely no way you could miss it. Google for "mx1000 put it down" 7,500 results.
I was annoyed because they ruined my favourite MS mouse and mutated it into something else. Recently I ordered 2 MS mice from places which seemed to have stock of the older mice, only to be sent the new one with the tilt wheel.
Rabid pitbull
03-13-2005, 03:57 AM
I wonder if maybe the drivers were updated? I do not notice any tracking problems, just as smooth as a corded mouse imo. I was thinking about this some more and would like to add that the thumb buttons truly are a bit awkward, the forward button in particular. The side scrolling is a bit slow, and the side scroll buttons are pretty small difficult to use.
But I still like this mouse better than any other I have had, the shape is excellent, the weight is actually welcomed seems to add a better control, and the tracking is really very accurate. Of course cordless with such a amazing battery life is just icing on the cake.
bmcaff
03-13-2005, 09:51 AM
Although pleased with every other aspect of this mouse I also found the scroll button too stiff. I even opened it up and removed the spring. In every other logitech mouse I've owned I did the same modification and it worked perfecty but witht hte MX-1000 the middle click is still too stiff. I'm not saying it's impossible to press, just different and personally I prefer to have the same sensation on all the buttons. For this reason I remapped the cruise up button to be middle click which kinda suits my hand anyway. It's a shame you can't remap the side scroll buttons which have the right feel.
akdsn
03-13-2005, 10:32 AM
It's a shame you can't remap the side scroll buttons which have the right feel.
it is possible with LogiGamer Mouse profile utility for Logitech MX500, MX700, MX310,MX510 & MX1000 mice.
http://www.logigamer.com/
but it is logitech problem probably when cruise and side sroll buttons not work always. sometimes i have to press few times when it start working even with setpoint.
bmcaff
03-13-2005, 11:54 AM
:thumbsup: Thanks for that, I was looking for exactly that feature. It's still a shame it's not part of the standard feature set in SetPoint.
The only thing I dont like about my MX1000 is the middle mouse button. In my case the scroll wheel is too loose and i always end up rolling the wheel when i want to press it ;) My MX310 is much stiffer, and easier to use as a middle button. Not to mention it presses with less effort :P
I will admit the forward buttons (both the thumb button and the one on the front of the wheel) are just out of reach for me. And I'm far too lazy to move more of my hand to hit them :P
I am pretty satisfied with the mouse over all though. I like the weight and the accuracy. Though the accuracy seems to be a bit much since some of my mouse pads have slightly raised text on them. This causes the mouse to "jump" every time I run over a raised letter :) I've been using the mouse on smooth flat wood surfaces ever since without a problem. Gone are my mouse pads :P
Oh also, It really only takes about an hour or two for it to fully charge, and it ends up lasting me about 1.5-2 weeks.
bmcaff
03-13-2005, 07:55 PM
Lots, if you're feeling adventerous then you can adjust spring tension, just open it up and manually bend the spring slightly.. It is a biit loose out of the box. I always find that these things need a slight adjustment to be comfortable,
Nguyen
04-01-2005, 10:09 PM
i tried to install the logiGamer beta 2.xxx for the mx1000 but i get an error message when i try, something about the application failing to intialize properly. Did anyone else get that problem?
alexyork
05-05-2005, 01:57 PM
hi guys, i'm resurrecting this thread - hope ya don't mind :)
I've started having major problems with my MX1000:
1) The cursor randomly jumps to random positions on the screen (in any app) at random times, which in itself is frustrating but also makes gaming virtually impossible.
2) The middle mouse button is less than responsive. sometimes it really takes a good hard push to work.
Now, I'm thinking these might be problems caused by a faulty receiver (this is indicated on Logitech forums) but it was working just fine for a few months previously. I've also heard bad things about the MX1000 with USB, so I switched to PS2 but I get no joy with this either. I have a cordless MS keyboard with receiver which might be interfering with the mouse, but I've moved it all over the place and, again, no joy. I've replaced the batteries on all my wireless devices. I've also unplugged my wacom in case this was the cause. I've also installed the latest drivers. No joy. The strange thing is that everything was working just peachy until last week when everything went belly up... no new hardware/software or anything that could cause this afaik.
Has anyone come across any of these problems and found a solution?
Much appreciated.
Rabid pitbull
05-05-2005, 02:29 PM
I don't have any of the problems you describe, I would recommend contacting logitech. Sounds like somethingmight have died.... Definitly sounds like some kind of noise interference. I would try unplugging everything and using just a standard keyboard to rule all wireless conflicts.
mustique
05-05-2005, 02:30 PM
I don't like any mouse that's more expensive than $15.
I'd rather put another $50 on the bill and get myself a new wacom graphire.
A wired optical mouse does the job. I actually prefer it. It's more convenient than those bulky new ones. There are already enough driver and utility issues for an average PC
and enough buttons on a mouse.
alexyork
05-05-2005, 03:12 PM
cheers James I'm gonna give it a try. I'm slightly reluctant to battle my way through my wire jungle under my feet, but it might be worth it :)
if all else fails, I'm definitely going to be contacting Log. for this money, I didn't expect to have such serious problems.
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