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FabioMSilva
03-05-2005, 11:02 PM
Please help me figure out whats wrong with my character's breasts. I've been knocking my head against the wall for the last 2 days trying to figure it out. but i still cant get them to look correctly. I'm using 3dsmax R7 with the standart/default edit poly modeling tools.

http://img41.exs.cx/img41/7443/10og.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img41.exs.cx/img41/9258/29eq.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

please help:scream:

Onslaught_2000
03-06-2005, 05:39 AM
Hi The Solid Snake i know what you mean about trying to get the female boobs jsut right.
I have been at it for a month now and i am still un able to get it.
here is a like to a model i'm working on
http://home.earthlink.net/~gray_fox.../ajustments.jpg (http://home.earthlink.net/~gray_fox001/images/Second%20attempt%20at%20female%20model/ajustments.jpg)

Lystmaler
03-06-2005, 07:43 AM
The Solid Snake-
The nipples should be a bit more down, and that's about it. Good luck :)

Onslaught_2000-
Way to big for a thin woman like that. She look anorexic, thus her breasts would be small, unless she's made out of plast. So you ether grow her weight by 100 kilo's, or you make her breast size 1/3'rd of your curent. If you are modelling a fake porno star thingy, annything goes, as plastic is nether perfect or inperfect, it's fake to begin with, thus this would look "realistic" for her role, I say.

tatiana
03-06-2005, 08:53 PM
Check out the modeling tutorial "Joan of Arc" on the the 3Dtotal tutorials section: http://www.3dtotal.com/

It helped me get a better understanding of modeling a female torso when I first started modeling. Will your final model be wearing clothing? If so, I wouldn't bother with creating the nipples. Won't need them. :)

t

bobzilla
03-06-2005, 09:37 PM
Well, in my opinion, in all seriousness, I think you have to decide if you want the implant look, natural but small, or natural but big. These are very different looking.

You have to take gravity into consideration. The implant version will tend to not droop as much and be more straight out. The natural ones will be affected by gravity more and have a more unique shape. Natural breasts are more fluid where the silicone versions are more one solid (sort of) object.

FabioMSilva
03-06-2005, 09:45 PM
Hi. She wont be wearing any clothes for the scene, so Nipples will be required.
I want them to be natural breasts. not big ones. I've followed joan of darc tutorial to make those(altought i only looked on the tutorial when i started modeling the breasts. So i have a bit of a problem with the breasts radials. that's why i posted them from several angles. can u give me any clues on how to fix those?

cheers.

Lystmaler
03-06-2005, 10:59 PM
The top (the most "pointy part") have to be a bit more down, my sister said so and she's suprisingly one with real reference material.

FabioMSilva
03-07-2005, 12:43 AM
thanx for the info.
here's an update

http://img210.exs.cx/img210/7861/danm8pj.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img210.exs.cx/img210/3687/danm29ev.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

tatiana
03-07-2005, 12:57 AM
It's improving...

May I also suggest you take a look at the wires (low poly and smooth) on pages 17 and 18 of the online tutorial "Modeling the Human Figure". :)

http://cal.jmu.edu/ratner/tutorials/1/



t

FabioMSilva
03-07-2005, 11:48 PM
thank you.

Leionaaad
03-08-2005, 11:09 PM
Well, as I looked on the model, I saw that is almost nothing wrong with the breasts. The real problem is with the rest of the torso. And because it is not right, the boobs look wrong.
Find a way to improve the rest of the torso, and it will look ok.

Onslaught_2000
03-09-2005, 02:08 AM
Leionaaad (http://www.cgtalk.com/member.php?u=99945) can you tell me if this is an improvemt to my model with the big boobs??
http://home.earthlink.net/~gray_fox001/images/Second%20attempt%20at%20female%20model/Perspective.jpg

I did not change the size of the boobs i only made her waist a little bigger. I hope it is more improved form the last pic i post.

magnumstar
03-09-2005, 07:38 AM
That looks good but alittle the lower torso is too round and strechted unless your making her cartoonish on purpose. Looking foward to the belly button

Onslaught_2000
03-09-2005, 07:44 AM
magnumstar (http://www.cgtalk.com/member.php?u=144836) Thanx for the input i iwll get right on fixing it hope i am able to get it to look the way it should.

chadtheartist
03-09-2005, 10:15 AM
You need to add muscle definition and bone definition to the torso too. A womans breast usually, when in the t-pose, should be relatively flat, and spread out along the pectoral muscles. They wouldn't sag like you have there, unless they are quite big.

Here's a screenshot of the model I did in my signature. She's thin like the model you have here, so this may give you some ideas of where to go with yours.

http://homepage.mac.com/chadtheartist/.Pictures/kathlyn/newwire1.jpg

Ian Jones
03-09-2005, 12:12 PM
IMO you need to work on the anatomy overall. I see your model and I don't feel as if you have been looking at real human reference pictures. You need more definition in the torso in many areas, but in relation to getting the breasts right... just remember there is no forumula, in the real world every girl is different.

Ian Jones
03-09-2005, 12:14 PM
here's a reference link I forgot to post:

http://www.fineart.sk/

dees
03-13-2005, 04:05 PM
hmm, I may not be the best modeler ever....... but if I may add suggestion..... do to my increased experience with woman's breast..... lol (OMG J/k)

hmm, shape, ..... it's like a sack filled with socks to enhance the pointiness, or maybe it requires more lines to define....... imagine a smooth curvacious line from the neck to the nipples.....really-really curvacious ( my apology if I'm mistaken, but I imagined a straight line if you push it to iteration 2 or subD in LW there)

in short, check the upper part of the breast, it's not that high.

you should do teh nipples first actually, it'll define the breast much better especially in the "peak part of the twin mountains" (hmm.... trying to get other words for it, ROFL)

If I observe the rest of the body, you are quick fast and extremely observant........... awesome

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