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ShinZo
03-01-2005, 06:19 AM
I know this topic has been discussed to death, but still there was no definate answer.

Which one performs better in 3d? Maya/Max/Lightwave, which processor does better with these major apps?


I know a lot depends on the video card, but for that I think nvidia gforce series is good, but cpu is what main issue here, so amd or pentium?

and is 512-1gb ram good enough?

Thankyou for all the help.
thx

durbdk
03-01-2005, 07:14 AM
Search, and the answers will come...


Seriously, no-one will answer this because, your right, it has been done to death. Also, you need the hardware forum, not the general forum.

jcbray
03-01-2005, 09:47 AM
We don't know for certain over here either ;) depends what program you use specifically, and what else you use the computer for. Intel works better at some things, AMD works better at some things. Me? I like AMD's, other's swear by Intel *shrugs*...those fools ;) *runs away*


In regards to RAM - 512 will let you run the programs fine, but more RAM will definitly speed things up for you. If you can't spend the money for 1 gig, then get 512, RAM is easy to upgrade.

pwallin
03-01-2005, 12:40 PM
you need the hardware forum, not the general forum.

Maybe it's YOU that is in a wrong forum? :D

Pasi

jcbray
03-01-2005, 12:48 PM
err, perhaps the topic was moved pwallin ;)

maninflash
03-01-2005, 01:24 PM
Which one performs better in 3d? Maya/Max/Lightwave, which processor does better with these major apps?

That's like asking, "What is the one car that's best for F1 racing, Nascar and moutain off-road driving?"

Every package has its own needs regarding hardware and CPU, and then, different jobs within a given package require different hardware for them to perform to their best. UI in Maya: AMD rocks, Rendering in Mentalray: XEON is better, rendering with Maya software: Opteron wins, etc. etc.

So I think for you to get the right answer, you need to ask the right question.

ShinZo
03-01-2005, 02:25 PM
ok then, which cpu is betetr for maya?

Ofcourse I won't have 10 diff cpus doinf 10 diff thing, 1 for modeling, 1 for rendering, etc.

So I need a general answer, whats best for maya and whats best for lightwave?

Thx

JDex
03-01-2005, 02:30 PM
The one you can afford...

There is no definitive answer. every specific answer you will recieve will be an opinion...

colintheys
03-01-2005, 02:54 PM
they're both good platforms. Buy the one that lets you spend the most money on other stuff. Which platform will allow you to get the best motherboard? Honestly, the quality of your mainboard will probably make more of a noticable difference than your selection between amd/intel. edit: oh and pay attention to heat. Some of the new processors sound like a freakin learjet with the stock heatsink/fan.

maninflash
03-01-2005, 03:36 PM
ok then, which cpu is betetr for maya?

That depends on exactly WHAT you're going to do with Maya, are you a modeler? Animator? Effects artist? I assume from your post that you're more of a generalist and will be doing a little bit of everything, so for Maya, I would say that Opteron 248 or 250 would be best for a dual system. Xeons are a bit faster than Opterons in rendering with mentalray but for the most UI performance AMD (the 64 series) would do just fine. And for a single cpu system as well, go for AMD 64, the higher the better.

But my advice to you, spend the most money on FIRST: Graphic Card, SECOND: RAM, in Maya the real huge difference is made by those two components.

hope that helps.

JDex
03-01-2005, 05:38 PM
But my advice to you, spend the most money on FIRST: Graphic Card, SECOND: RAM, in Maya the real huge difference is made by those two components.

Well, unless of course rendering speed is most important. :D:twisted:

Vertizor
03-01-2005, 07:56 PM
From what I've heard other members say over the course of time, and various hardware sites with benchmarks:

Maya: AMD

3DS Max: Intel

Lightwave: about equal, Intel a very small lead over AMD. If price/heat/power are factors than it's AMD

Cinema 4D: Intel

XSI: haven't seen enough data

greyface
03-02-2005, 01:48 AM
Yea, this has been already discussed, about 10^500 times, the simple answer is: They are both good platforms, whichever you choose, it'll be fast.

What you might consider though, if you are making a big investment, is that AMD should be releasing their Dual-Core server chips pretty soon. Maybe you should wait for that.

Vertizor
03-02-2005, 03:32 AM
Anyone dare throw Apple G5's into the mix? :D

krazeyhorse
03-02-2005, 04:00 AM
Sad to see... At least AMD are going on the PCI Express buzz now.


The DDR2 standard is picking up momentum in the PC market due to Intel's rather forceful migration plan; but AMD shows no interest in following suit (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20749). Apparently AMD believes that there is no performance advantage to DDR2 over DDR until you reach DDR2-667 levels, which will not be mainstream until 2006. AMD plans to release a new socket, one with 1,207 pins, in about a year's time. The processors for this socket, most assuredly dual-core Opterons, will likely sport DDR2-667 buses. There are apparently enough pins on the 939-pin platform to support a DDR2 bus, but AMD does not want to create unnecessary confusion over socket and processor compatibility. The company took a lot of flack over the 754, 939, and 940 sockets all supporting similar and equivalent processors, which was a departure from AMD's previous policy of using one socket to support every architecture. This is sad news, as high-speed DDR2 RAM is available (at a premium) and the overclocking prospects would be great if AMD supported it now--they may not be so great when AMD does support it sometime in the next year or so.

lots
03-02-2005, 04:26 AM
You overlook the downside to this high speed DDR2, the latencies on DDR2 are much higher than those found on DDR (on average). On the AMD64 architecture, this is the deciding factor more so than the MHz gained..

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