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Baki
02-26-2005, 05:10 AM
ok, i was experimenting with speed painting
quickly wipped up the line art as a refrance
I outlined the character to pop him out of the backround, i did not want to dou
yes, the backround is half ass, but it is a speedpaint so i did not want to put anymore time into it untill i got some critiques
so if you don't mind, what wrong with this image
comon you know you want to say it sucks, its so tempting

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/rotosho/AligatorFinal.jpg

done in coral painter 8

Ognus
02-26-2005, 05:29 AM
Very neat concept!
Just need to work on your anatomy a little bit. Also, think about lighting. The shoulder muscle is shaded really dark on the front side, where as the face which is right by it is fully lit. What would this be? If this selective light is just touching its face, where is it coming from? I have figured out that getting better at art is simply considering more aspects of a piece. Asking more questions, and being sure footed.
In youth, we tend to get lost in our drawings, and lost in the creative joy of making something neat and new and exciting. But later, we tend to want to do things with more exactness and we want to compete with those around us. So just keep working at anatomy. The color palllett is fine. All green can be done very well.
Also, for an alligator, look at an alligators skin. Its not so green. Maybe tone it down a bit?
But its up to you bub,
keep it up.

Baki
02-26-2005, 05:41 AM
dammit i knew i did the light source wrong......well actuly i knew it from very early stages of the process...hehehe
you got me figured out like a book, and i am trying to compete as i am learning
i was thinking about getting refrance for aligators but passed on it
i was more concurned about long singles brush strokes and other teqniques
and aligator scales would get in the way of that
but its something to keep in mind, thx
so lets see? any comments on how the light is sopposed to hit the character?
i know the edges are sopposed to be lit up, from the top head on to the upper back
what else? any ideas? point some out if you have time? thx

Ognus
02-26-2005, 05:48 AM
Just think of surfaces when you do them. Is this bulbous? Does this have any sharp textures (such as scales) or protrusions which would cast a sharp shadow? Its all about considering the piece. You have got the brushstrokes pretty good and the overall figure says to me you can draw. Work on the fundamentals. Really really think about it. Get consumed by it and do it as perfectly as you can.
I think as far as lighting goes, you need to start with single light source projects. Put the light coming from the upper left. Dont worry about where you should light, worry about how it really would be lit if it were real. Anyone can take a mechanical approach, but you are an artist. You got to make this thing live.
There are many practices outside of drawing and painting that will make you a better artist. One of them is simple observance. Stare at things until you understand them. Stare at how they are made. What colors are they made of? What shapes do they consist of?
The more you think about art, the better you will find yourself becoming.

THe lighting isnt a train wreck or anything, just a few simple mistakes.

That shoulder muschle needs to be light.

Baki
02-26-2005, 05:48 AM
lol, actuly i know anatomy very well, but i was like screw it
and just wipped out some muscles, yes a lot that are made up, and just went with it
i was more concurned on the coloring and trying to figure out the technique

Baki
02-26-2005, 06:02 AM
lol, yeah the color is half ass......and i did add the color in only a few minutes
the original is all b&w, I just tonal controll effect and correct color on the sucker twice
i did no scales not only for time but because i was thinking of the creature more as a human being, since people is what i draw more
i should draw a "new" mangator in a dynamic pose with scales and all the goods
lol, i look and observe all things, i just don't observe color all to much because i gess i don't understand the fundementals of it, something i have to learn in collage or by myself

cgmodeler
02-26-2005, 06:06 AM
A neat concept, i really liike the tone of the skin and the mood, a little suggestion. The biceps, i think if he has go t enough strenght to figure out somehow that body, he might get a bigger bicep, i think, thats my suggestion.

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christina
02-26-2005, 12:29 PM
baki I tend to agree on the light source,
however as the pic was downloading, I
thought: oh my gods, such a great rendering
of an emerald!

I still think she looks a bit translucent, which is
totally awesome composition and color-wise.
If it's not what you want, then perhaps you should
color her *un*like a gem?

btw wish I could have painted it!

Baki
02-26-2005, 05:42 PM
thx, people
christina, you can color him if you want, just ask and i will hook you up with outline
im going to take everyones advice and redraw ManGator in a danamic pose and make his skin more aligator like......im going to get started....NOW!

Baki
02-26-2005, 06:35 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/rotosho/AligatorFinal2.jpg

before i start on the new one i just had to play around with it, its still really wrong but i had to try it just to know

christina
02-26-2005, 06:55 PM
sure thing! I'd love to color her.
not sure it's gonna look good though :P I'm not
good at coloring.
Oh by the way, if you want to make her skin
scaly, remember that texture shows where
highlight and shadow meet.

For example: if hit directly by sunlight, no scales
show. In the shadow only SOME scales show.
On the transitional point, most of the scales show.

hope this helps,
kisses
christina

Baki
02-26-2005, 07:18 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/rotosho/AligatorLineArt.jpg
thats the jpeg image 5by5in
you probly want the high resolution line art
if you do tell me what it should be riff or php...or is that wrong eigher one

Pixelcritter
02-26-2005, 07:27 PM
Looks awesome.

christina
02-26-2005, 08:36 PM
I told you I can't color like you do.
but since you asked, here's how I'd
color it if I were me.

(the background is a watercolor stroke I
made and scanned 5 minutes ago)

http://www.darksprite.chaos-rules.com/colorist work.jpg

hope you get some ideas ?
I normally like oversaturated paintings, but only if I start them out myself..
when I color I prefer them Frank Miller style..

kisses
christina

zagor
02-26-2005, 09:06 PM
Baki - hey...wonderfull concept ....can see him as a sucessfull character....nice going !

Christina - the coloring is just absolutely marvolous !! i love the way u painted his scales in with blending his two tone skin and bringing him out from the BG helped too....truely inspiring :applause:

Baki
02-26-2005, 09:14 PM
oh man christina that is RAW
I like the spots,
style is fantastic
looks like an ilustration piece
im so happy

christina
02-27-2005, 07:42 AM
tx for the compliment.
I don't color normally..
and there's better colorists
than I out there.

still, if you like what I do,
I guess this means I'll have
more propositions to color stuff.
sweet! :buttrock:

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