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dareevan
02-24-2005, 06:47 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/dareevan/ryan05a.jpg

Hai... This is my first post in WIP CGTAlk. I'm draw this using a photo reference.... and i'm stuck in the eye.. I can't make the eye look good. Any sugestion where i should put the lighting and glow please?
And I'm also gratefull to hear any comment on the other part also ^^ Thanks.
Sorry for my poor english.. :P

Xillion
02-24-2005, 08:00 AM
it seems to me that light is coming from above (maybe also on the left), keep in mind that his eyes are in shadow so they won't pick up much light. I suggest something like this...

http://img69.exs.cx/img69/6519/ryan05asug2mz.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

it can be done better on a high rez image... :)

Enayla
02-24-2005, 08:26 AM
I think Xillion is pretty much spot on there. A discreet and dim highlight like that really accentuates the eye. However, I also think you need to do something about the colour of the whites of the eye.

They're the exact colour of the skin, which makes it look rather creepy. You're on the right track, though - better to have them skin toned than to have them pure white, but even in shadow, they need to stick out a little more from the skin tones.

As for tutorials, I've not finished making the actual tutorial, but here's a little gif you might find helpful: http://www.furiae.com/images/eyeprogress2.gif

Anyway, beautiful work so far. Looking forward to the finished version!

dareevan
02-26-2005, 01:16 AM
Thank you for the comment ^^. It really helps me. Now i have a new problem, here :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/dareevan/Case-Study2.jpg

Help.....
I'm not using a photo reference for this one, so i think she is out of proportion. Can anyone comment on the proportion please? And the skin color too. At first, I follow enayla's skin tone tutorials as my guidance, but the longer i work on my drawing, the result getting worse than before.
I need her skin to look lighter, (this one looks so tan like a skin of black latin woman :P)
And about the eyes... and the lips,... the chin.... and the cheek... and the whole proportion i need help on all of these.
I don't want the girl's head shape looks too oval, but i need it to be egg shape.
And she must look young around 19ish.
Thank you^^

Xillion
02-26-2005, 07:50 AM
It seems quite ok for me. If you have problems with her right eye you can use this shortcut: copy and flip the left one. then, keeping in mind that symmetry is not perfect in people, change a bit che copied eye with a few strokes. To detail the picture work on light/shadow contrasts with a small brush in these areas: hair, eyes, eyebrows. the upper part of the nostrils' shadow can be enhanced.ears need to be define a bit more. When defining hair or eyes you can use a higher opacity setting, when refining the overall tone you can work with low opacity (using multiple strokes if needed). usually the white reflection in eyes has a strong edge.

keep up! :)

dareevan
02-26-2005, 09:45 AM
It seems quite ok for me. If you have problems with her right eye you can use this shortcut: copy and flip the left one. then, keeping in mind that symmetry is not perfect in people, change a bit che copied eye with a few strokes. To detail the picture work on light/shadow contrasts with a small brush in these areas: hair, eyes, eyebrows. the upper part of the nostrils' shadow can be enhanced.ears need to be define a bit more. When defining hair or eyes you can use a higher opacity setting, when refining the overall tone you can work with low opacity (using multiple strokes if needed). usually the white reflection in eyes has a strong edge.

keep up! :)

Thank you Xillion, ^^
your a really great help. my friend told me that the nose is bad. The nose look like plastic. And ugly. Is it true?

Xillion
02-26-2005, 10:16 AM
I don't think the nose is wrong. It really depends on the type of painting you want to achieve. Maybe the kind of reflections you gave the nose look unnatural right now, but as you work out the values of the overall image they may be acceptable. It is possible that right now the problem resides in the highlight(s) on the nose (too bright) and the lack of definition on the area in and aroung the nostrils (lack of shadows). You seem to suggest a strong illumination but this illumination is not supported by proper shadows.

keep in mind that's only my humble opinion :)

ps.: usually eyes have a thin dark line around the iris and, the iris itself is not homogeneus (uniform in colour)

christina
02-26-2005, 10:30 AM
after the masters have spoken,

I can only offer you this link (http://susieshort.net/waterdrops.html) for a tutorial
on how to paint drops of liquid, by Susie
Short.
It really nails the shadows/highlights thing.
It is the way *I* learnt to paint liquids.

kisses

dareevan
03-02-2005, 12:52 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/dareevan/tut00.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/dareevan/tut09-fin.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/dareevan/WIP-wiz.jpg

Thankyou thank you Xillion^^ And Christina,... it a great tutor!!
This is my new WIP. Still developing,.. based on my friend photo.
and sorry for the girl WIP, I'll post the result later. :P

Xillion
03-02-2005, 01:07 PM
Very nice work so far! I like your rendition of hands very much. Did you ever use open canvas to draw ? I'd very much like to see the way you paint and open canvas can save scripts do do that!

keep on goin friend!
bye.

Elaeria
03-02-2005, 08:48 PM
Wow, great work guys!

And to the other posters, thank you for your insight on drawing eyes. After reading your comments I tried sketching out my first eye and it actually turned out pretty well!

I haven't practiced drawing for some time and was never very good at anatomy, but these forums have been so helpful to me that I am sketching and painting on my Graphire3 almost every day now! Perhaps when I get up the nerve, I will post this eye sketch that I just did to get your feedback...:)

I am grateful to you all!

dareevan
03-03-2005, 12:37 AM
Very nice work so far! I like your rendition of hands very much. Did you ever use open canvas to draw ? I'd very much like to see the way you paint and open canvas can save scripts do do that!

keep on goin friend!
bye.

Thanks Xillion ^^, I have use Open Canvas to practicing line tracing. but, i'm not familiar with the OC Environment. I was more comfortable with Photoshop tool :P
If u want to see my hand progress, I can show you part of this one.
This is when i draw the finger and the result:

Rudeone
03-03-2005, 01:06 AM
Hey dareevan, those are some pretty nice paintings man, only crit would be, like said earlier that there should be a touch of whites in the eyes. And there's something weird about the leftarm of the guy in medievel-ish costume, can't really put my hands on what it is, but it seems weird. Anyway great work man!

I think Xillion is pretty much spot on there. A discreet and dim highlight like that really accentuates the eye. However, I also think you need to do something about the colour of the whites of the eye.

They're the exact colour of the skin, which makes it look rather creepy. You're on the right track, though - better to have them skin toned than to have them pure white, but even in shadow, they need to stick out a little more from the skin tones.

As for tutorials, I've not finished making the actual tutorial, but here's a little gif you might find helpful: http://www.furiae.com/images/eyeprogress2.gif

Anyway, beautiful work so far. Looking forward to the finished version!

Wow that's really great and usefull, thanx for sharing Enayla

Xillion
03-03-2005, 09:01 AM
Thanks Xillion ^^, I have use Open Canvas to practicing line tracing. but, i'm not familiar with the OC Environment. I was more comfortable with Photoshop tool :P
If u want to see my hand progress, I can show you part of this one.
This is when i draw the finger and the result:

Thank you very much for the capture. It's really helpful :). and again, Nice work! hope to see something else soon!

dareevan
03-04-2005, 07:07 AM
Hello Elaeria, Welcome to the forum..^^
I like to see your work too. Let we improve and share together. :D

And Rudeone, thanks for the input. I'll retouch that part as u said. ^^

Btw, this is my new Work....
I know that i must do alot of practice. rpactice... practice... ^^)
My friends said that there's too much white on the picture,... and this environment should look like a Cartoon Background. What i must do?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/dareevan/lotus-copy3.jpg

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