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Shaun_michael
02-20-2005, 05:26 PM
Hi,

I'm trying to export depth information to a Combustion in order to do DoF in post. My problem is that I can't seem to get the RLA or RPF formats working at all. All I get is a nice 24 or 32 bit colour image wih thte "depth" information just being taken staright from the RGB information. I've used the buffer savers and they work fine, plus a plugin I downloaded (d-storm I think) which works great too, but they are obviously all producing extra space-grabbing renders.

I've tried exporting my renders in the delux RLA mode, ensuring I added the Delux RLA filter in the image processing panel, but to no avail.

Is there someone who could outline a step-by-step procedure to have my rla or rpf files containing the right info please, its driving me loopy! :banghead:

Thank you in advance,

Shaun

Johnnyx
02-20-2005, 06:18 PM
Hi Shaun,

In the Layout Effects panel, choose "Extended RPF export" from the 'add image filter' dropdown.

Double click the added filter to choose which depth options you need, and to set and image name and export path.

close and hit F9. An xxx.rpf image will be saved for you to mess about with. If its an image sequence you are saving, just set the range in the render options box, but don't set any image saving options here - you have already done that in the RPF export box.

If you are still not seeing depth in Combustion, it may be the depth info needs multiplying. I use DFX, and its easy to change the depth info... don't know about Combustion.

Good luck!

J

Shaun_michael
02-20-2005, 06:25 PM
Hey Johhnyx thanks for your reply, I'll give it a go. It's been driving me nuts! Will report back later...

Shaun

Shaun_michael
02-20-2005, 08:18 PM
grrrrr, still no joy! I'm guessing in that case that this has something to do with my settings in combustion.

I've got this great plugin for C3 that does proper DoF, not just faked with a gaussian blur or something, but obviously it requires z-depth info to work. Like I say, the dstorm buffer_saver 1.11 works great, but if I can get that same info in one image file rather than two, that would be, erm, greaterer :)

I'll flip over to another forum and try m they luck there, and post any results I have incase other LW/C3 users would like the info.

Cheers J

Shaun

gerardo
02-21-2005, 01:18 AM
Try this:
Add the 3D_Depth_of_Field operator; to the side of Near_Focused_Plane and Far_Focused_Plane you will see some buttons with this symbol: +
First increase the Maximum_Radius a little; then click (+) in Near_Focused_Plane (in the area of the nearest image to the camera); then click (+) in Far_Focused_Plane (also in the nearest area to the camera); this will almost always force to that the effect works.



Gerardo

Shaun_michael
02-21-2005, 11:33 AM
Hi Gerardo,

Thanks for the tip. I'm actually using a plugin called Lenscare from http://www.frischluft.com/home/home.php which is giving some beautiful DoF affects with good control - far better than a simple blur from within C3. To set this up I need to point it to a depth source, which as I've mentioned I can get in various different ways, other than, it seems, from the one rpf, or rla image.

I've followed Johnnyx's advice and have rendered out rfp/rla files with all the flags ticked and it produces everything other than a proper depth image - seems to just produce a standard alphad channel.

Initially I thought it was because many of my objects were being generated by HD_Instance, but if that were the case, I wouldnt be getting the depth information from buffer_saver by DStorm, and one or two of the inbuilt LW image filters.

So this has me stumped. It's no biggie, as I can extract the info I want in other ways, but it just makes far more sense, and significantly simplifies the workspace if I can extract the info I need from the RPF files.

Any other ideas would be very welcome.

Cheers,

Shaun

slipster70
08-11-2005, 11:12 PM
Shaun,
any update on getting extended RLA or RLF files to contain depth information?
I'm trying to render out the depth info in the same file, not separately (with Buffer Export), and LW just does not seem to be able to do it. This is a bit of a problem because it would force me to buy Lenscare to bring the separate depth files into AE and use those as my DOF guide. When it should work with Extended RLA and/or RPF!

Perhaps there is another program that could comine the grey-scale depth images into the RPF images? Anyone?

Thanks,
slipster70

gerardo
08-12-2005, 12:07 AM
Lenscare 1.2 works well here with RPF and RLA. RLA & RPF works comprehensibly well with AE too (but not sooo well as with Lenscare :) )



Gerardo

Zarathustra
08-12-2005, 01:30 PM
It's LW to AE, but maybe this will help:
RPF and RLA explored (http://www.creativemac.com/2004/01_jan/tutorials/lw2ae1.htm)
Manipulating RPF in AE (http://www.creativemac.com/2004/01_jan/tutorials/lw2ae2.htm)

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