Animation: Two Dragons fight to the death

[fellah]

wohoo! superb, best I've seen in a long time here, no big crits.. only wanted to say this is _excellent stuff_ and give you 5stars!

[Joril]

This look very very good, not just the dragons, but the setting aswell.

[Maglok]

I just love the intro with the letters :) It all looks GREAT!
5 stars indeed!

[DXtreme]

yeah cool clip!
i like the handdrawn background in the intro!
and the dragons are really cool i think, did ya modell them?
the environment fits really cool, very authentic and the movements are also great..i think if we have dragons today they would act and move like this!
great piece of work!

(did ya create the flames in 3d appz or in after effects?)

[artifish]

jo, especially do I like the camera work, really great flight scene - its got a very lotr-feel to, not just because of the music ;)

[lildragon]

What a way to welcome yourself to the board :D

I saw this a few days ago and was like wow, this it true L.O.T.R. style animation, very well done.. [plugged]

How long was the production time and what apps where used?

:thumbsup:

[Equinoxx]

if this ain't candy for the eye, I don't know what is . ..

one small thing is that the cut from hittin the water to drowning looks a wee bit akward . . . before the cutaway, it looks like he still in the motion from laying on the water to being sucked into it, while after the cut, he's fully in the water . . .

but MAN what an animation . . .:thumbsup:

[robot9000]

I DIG IT.COM
Just curious=How long was render time?
Pretty Kool Stuff!
Keep On Trucking!
peace
robot9000
:airguitar :airguitar :airguitar

[phishmann]

that background looks really familiar to something Yanick Dusseault did. I really like that though. I like how you were able to incorporate it into your short animation. heres the site if u want to know what im talking about. Btw, im a new member and this is my first post. i hope to post some of my stuff in the near future. im takin a first semester class in 3d animation right now.

http://www.dusso.com

[Kaiser_Sose]

Can you say big screen ... within five years, that will be the next summer block buster

[leif]

Hi,
first of all thank you,
we try to make up a small making of, so i think in a couple of days i will post it on my site, i think this will answer some questions,

@DxExtreme
the flames are actually stock footage, we tried 3d flames and they were pretty good, but at last we decided to use some real footage.

@lildragon
we did this in our freetime in the afternoons and evenings, and we used about 4 Month (oops)

@equinox
you are right, the crash scene was a little longer and the animation did match well then, but we cut a way some frames in the end because the water particles did not really look good in the last frames.

thanx a lot
leif

[anim8r2]

Awesome!! I liked the dragons, but I loved the buildings in the setting. Great job!

[Briareos]

i dont think its LOTR style animation, I think it has a style of its own, and its great. great work, congratulations on the the completion, I know its alot of work. :cool:

[Phugative]

Fantastic Work. Amazing style and beautiful flowing Animation. There is really nothing to crit. Can't wait to see a making of.

[slice56]

Fantastic work! The best part, to me, was the breaking of the bridge, especially that last chunk, how it delayed. That was perfect man. And I loved that last segment, where he flew onto teh roof and roared. One word, Amazing..

[swag]

oh yehhh, i saw it on mayaforum.de weeks ago - leif i think ure one of the best coming up cg Artists in germany all ure stuff is great - u have a great future i think:applause:

[misterboogie]

leif

I've been a big fan of your work ever since I saw your penguin fishing character. Didn't you have an animation of the penguin and the bear??

Top shelf work. Keep your 3d pimp hand strong.

[Mangaka604]

Sic work man! Nice portrayal of dragons....especially good cinematography.

[say-g]

all i can say is.. WAY TO GO LEIF! 5 stars

[phishmann]

hey leif
i just had a question. Is that building a building from Dusso? I was just wondering.

[slayerment]

that is simply beautiful. great great work :buttrock: :buttrock:

[PotatoHead]

SUPERB MODELING!!! wow, i love the dragons. unfortunately, i couldnt download the movie, cause i have 56k at home.....but the screens are very very good. congrats!:bounce:

[PureFire]

absolute excellent work.....it definately had me captured. I wanna see more!! hehe

[leif]

Hi everybody,
first of all thank you for everything,

I just want to mention that a lot of work does also come from Alexander Hupperich [Hugh P. Rich], who did a lot to the background and also finished one of the dragons.

@phishmann
yes I think alex was a little inspired by a matte painting from dousso.

Hope to get that making of done...

I would have loved to get it a little longer and do some more scenes, but we just started our next project...
gotta keep on moving...

next project
DRONEZ

WIP@CGTALK
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18187&perpage=15&highlight=manuel&pagenumber=3

So thanx again,
and cu leif

[FLOw]

it's way cool...but I forget everything that's good about it...when the dragon roars at the end...that's really weak man, sorry, but i is...more power!...louder!...GAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ;) :thumbsup:

[spider-dude1]

Hi,

Quick question the German Film school?

Do they have a website and do they instruct in German or English?

Currently looking for one.


cya

[phishmann]

thats cool. I was just wondering because im doing the same building for the 3d class im taking right now. This helps me with visualizing different views of the building.:thumbsup:

[Ant4d]

Great stuff.

You have mixed LOR soundtrack for backround music, have'nt you:)
not that it would be bad or something, I love it.
great work.

[advanced]

First off, this is really incredible work. I am very impressed. There are a lot of great elements that make this short interesting. I like the fire and background, and the modeling and texturing looks extremely well. Since no one has ever witnessed dragons in battle, there is a lot you can get away with.

As with the ariel battle, the dragons almost seem like they are floating at times, yet there is a considerable amount of movement in the spine of each dragon. The lower half of the dragons look to move in almost every direction, while the upper half stays somewhat still(almost like reverse steering). The tail movements look great, but seem to move the lower legs and hips almost too much.

Also, it seems like the dragons don't glide enough in their downward movements, the only reference I have is birds in flight. When a bird dives, there is no movement from the legs or tail until the last moment when they pull up from the dive. I think just a little more of that type of gliding would make it even more believable.

Overall, I think you have done some INCREDIBLY good work though. Very very commendable.

-advanced

[leif]

hi,

@advanced
i think you are absolutly right, wow great eye,
i think one of the problems, described my result out of having the root between the shoulders. this may result in a more still animation on that part. i think next time i would put it in the middle of the character. what do you think?

i think you are also right on the tail, a little bit too much motion.
the thing with the birds dive, is also a good point.

its always the same thing, you can`t spend enough time on everything. i would have loved to perfect a lot of stuff...
thanks a lot for your crit and taking the time

@spider-dude1
www.filmschool.de
its mainly in german

@miyamoto
we did a short last year called iceland, with the penguine, try the links on my page...

thanks a lot

cu leif

[facial]

Well, what i can say............
It is realy nice work. I love it. :buttrock: :buttrock:

[gL_spear]

Excellent work...amazing....brillant :buttrock:

[wedge]

brilliant... the only thing i don't like is the fact that the dragon hits the bridge and falls. i wish it was a more decisive victory for one of them.

[Thoth]

Looks absolutely great ;) I have just one question, what software(s) were used? Thx.

[Bupa]

Awesome.:applause:

[Frank Dodd]

Beautiful piece of animation. Everyone should download it.

[advanced]

Originally posted by leif
i think next time i would put it(the root) in the middle of the character. what do you think?

I am trying to think of the muscular structure of a dragon...i would imagine there is a ribcage, spine and similar midsection of a human with larger dorsal muscles for wing attachments, etc....

I think that putting the root lower than the shoulders...more near the pelvis would have probably been better, but hindsight is always 20/20. However, since dragons are fictitious, no one knows for sure how they would actually move.

Originally posted by leif
its always the same thing, you can`t spend enough time on everything. i would have loved to perfect a lot of stuff...
thanks a lot for your crit and taking the time


Don't we wish we ALL had more time :p
Thanks for being very open about the crit...the best part of critiquing is being able to help people improve their work. I am still finishing something that I will be posting here shortly...should be done around the end of the month or middle of next month. So keep an eye out

-advanced

[[msf]]

isn't that the same music for "Fellowship of the ring" just wondering.

[DiGiTal]

wow :buttrock: i'm very impressed, the animation model and texturing are very good, it looks like a film :)

[The Magic Pen]

Excellent ..superior work !!

[Aeroplane]

Amazing work! Very impressive! :applause: :applause:

[lildragon]

The resurrection :D Digging up some of the classics ;)

You have received the CGtalk choice award .Please feel free to display this image anywhere you like! Keep it up amazing work bud!

upon receiving this award, it guarantees you a spot in the cgtalk gallery hall of fame (http://gallery.cgtalk.com) - which you are now placed

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P.S. Please email me @ tito@cgnetworks.com for the .psd file

salud

[frameless]

really good work!!! I also enjoyed the trailer for "Dronez". :applause: :applause:

[Trommeldaris]

DAMN, 5 stars..at least, how fupping beautiful, cant imagine why an admin didnt add you yet?!...WOW, AH i see they did...wow.......damn, cant say anything usefull....whoah

[tvtuna]

Most beautiful thing i've seen here. What's the music in the Dronez trailer though, it's uncredited(?).

[elhuppi]

Thanks a lot lildragon!

It is really an honor for us to receive the cgtalk choice award. We´re currently finishing the last shots of DRONEZ. Hope people will like it too.

Thanks

Alex and Leif

[SexyPancakes]

I absolutely love dragons, (And Balrogs :P) its an amazing model (I have yet to check out the animation, so imma gonna do that.

Great work!!!

[Lifthz]

WOW... that animation was AMAZING. Not only the dragons... but everything. The LOTR soundtrack music also helped give that epic mood. ;) :bounce: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Lifthz]

This was even more impressive than the Dronez preview was...

[Akuma]

damn thats cool

[Matt]

nice.

[WhiteRabbitObj]

Wow! I can't say anything that hasn't been said, and I don't like to heap praise on things that are already getting plenty, but this is awesome! I have a special place in my heart for dragons, regardless of how many CG ones we may see... I love this! Thanks for making it!
:buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

[DarkSun]

This is really amazing and inspirational :) Perfect job :thumbsup:
:beer:

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