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bobtilton
02-03-2005, 05:09 AM
The only way I could legitimize going out to drink beer with friends was to make a rule for myself that for every pint I consume, I must complete a painting (before said pint is finished). The idea is that around 50 or so beers/paintings, I'll have a show and sell them, financing the next 50 beers or packs of diapers (not for me). Wife's happy I'm recouping, drinking buddies only mildly annoyed at me geeking out in public, I'm happy I get to practice painting (not helping - I still suck), and some poor slob gets to buy a cheap painting (with a tasteful, yet minimal frame). Everyone wins, except for the barmaid who gets to clean tiny paint specks from the table after we leave.

I need a name for the show, though. Something that provokes curiosity without being too enigmatic. So, I'm taking suggestions. I'm also taking criticism, even though around the third or fourth painting of the night, I'm mixing colors based on... hell... I don't even remember what I was thinking with some of these colors. But I will definiately make every attempt to take to heart any words of advice.

Anyway, there's some scans of the painted masonite tiles (most of them around 3 inches squarish) below and all of them (I could only link to 10 in this thread) that I have painted so far on this page. (http://www.jonathanrichter.com/imaslob/drinkpaint/index.html) Sorry if it takes a long time for them to load. Thanks for anybody's help / comments!

http://www.jonathanrichter.com/imaslob/drinkpaint/Untitled11.jpg http://www.jonathanrichter.com/imaslob/drinkpaint/Untitled15.jpg http://www.jonathanrichter.com/imaslob/drinkpaint/Untitled17.jpg http://www.jonathanrichter.com/imaslob/drinkpaint/Untitled18.jpg http://www.jonathanrichter.com/imaslob/drinkpaint/Untitled25.jpg http://www.jonathanrichter.com/imaslob/drinkpaint/Untitled26.jpg http://www.jonathanrichter.com/imaslob/drinkpaint/Untitled27.jpg http://www.jonathanrichter.com/imaslob/drinkpaint/Untitled30.jpg http://www.jonathanrichter.com/imaslob/drinkpaint/Untitled35.jpg http://www.jonathanrichter.com/imaslob/drinkpaint/Untitled36.jpg

AIPh Pretzel
02-03-2005, 03:32 PM
I don't blame your friends for being annoyed. The pub is not for painting.

bobtilton
02-03-2005, 03:48 PM
I suppose you're right. Toulouse caught crap from his friends when they went to strip clubs. Course he had talent...

Point taken.

supremo
02-03-2005, 04:14 PM
I actually completely disagree with AIPh. If you're spending money there (and not creating that big of a mess/commotion) then the pub is your second home for the time you're there. The owners spend a lot of money to get you to feel that way. Maybe AIPh would feel better about you doing it if your pub got some publicity from this?

Anyway, I dig your paintings. A person could figure out some interesting color theory looking at them. 3"x3" sounds like a coaster to me - perhaps you name your show along that line? "Custom Coasters?"

Well that one is dumb but you get the idea.

crazy3dman
02-10-2005, 03:48 PM
These paintings are amazing, intriguing, different, captivating. I think the fact that you paint in a bar is very "romantic". There's no wrong time or place to create art.

I wish the images were bigger. I'd love to see more detail.

bobtilton
02-10-2005, 03:57 PM
Thanks, man - your comments are much appreciated. Painting is often a very frustrating experience for me.

Lyr
02-10-2005, 04:19 PM
love your work, keep it up. Who cares if you annoy your buds, as long you don't piss the owner off. Oh and call the show 99 bottles of beer on the wall.

Delusion
02-10-2005, 04:27 PM
First off, don't call your work a "show of crappy paintings". It's your art, from sight, thought, hand and paint. More than any other profession the artist wears who he is on his sleeve, in that your art is part of who you are. Military orders, Business proposals, law papers, even creative writing is often about pretending to be about someone else. So the biggest favour you can do for yourself and the future of your work is to respect it, respect it for what it is whether its good or bad.

People aren't perfect and either is art, thrive in that instead of fearing it.

As for painting in the pub, hell yeah! To me painting is first and foremost about people both the subject and the viewer and the pub is a perfect place to interact and get a good sense of people. The most important thing about any studio is that it's compfortable and stimulates creativity, if the pub is that place for you go for it and be proud of it.

I like your work and would love to see you refine your style. Keep the paintings coming.

D.

Delusion
02-10-2005, 04:32 PM
oh yeah, I'm curious to know what materials you use but I'd assume acrylic.

Also, how are you holding your brush? It looks like you're painting at a steep angle to the surface.

SpeccySteve
02-10-2005, 04:33 PM
You should primer up some beermats and paint on those, keep the "pub" theme consistent..

bobtilton
02-10-2005, 05:09 PM
Good thoughts, Delusion, and nice insight about the medium. I think my brush never gets very far away from 45 degrees (I've fallen in love with and only find myself using a W&N 66 1/4" wide). I use these tiny little bottles of Dr. Martins Acrylic Spectralite colors (primaries and white). They are the most wonderful acrylics in the world. They have no gel in them and the colors mix very well. So my little operation is very discrete, so I will not offend the frat bros participating in trivia night at the next table. The sanctity of the pub is intact I think.

I've never thought about brush angle before, though. Any suggestions?

If "beermat" is real english for "coaster" - that's a nice idea - I shall try that.

SpeccySteve
02-10-2005, 05:50 PM
If "beermat" is real english for "coaster" - that's a nice idea - I shall try that.

Beermats over here are the squares (or circles, or whatever ) of card about 3x3" that you put under a pintglass, "coasters" would typically be more solid, maybe made of cork, glass or plastic, the kinda thing you'd put under a coffee mug to stop it marking your polished wood table.

Heh, cultural differences are weird.

robinayles
02-10-2005, 06:53 PM
I think a good name for the show would be "Pub Scrawls" - a play on the term "pub crawl"

Nice work, man!

crazy3dman
02-10-2005, 07:00 PM
I think a good name for the show would be "Pub Scrawls" - a play on the term "pub crawl"

Nice work, man!

I second that one.:) Great idea.

EthanReitz
02-10-2005, 09:06 PM
I like your work. I don't care where you paint it.

If you can combine two pleasures that's your gain ;)

The world needs more non-conformists, more humourous comment, more alternative points of view. You want a pint.

I'm for it.

Pub scrawls ain't a bad little name either.

Delusion
02-10-2005, 10:38 PM
Bob, because you're using acrylics in an oil painting style as opposed to watercolour you should try holding your brush at a lower angle. When the brush is loaded with paint and held at a steep angle you won't get the most out of the medium as the brush scrapes the surface rather than evenly applying paint.

Try holding the brush at a lower angle and see if you notice a difference in how the paint is applied. You might have to change how you hold the brush to get a nice low angle (10-20 degrees). Let me know how it works for you.

Octothreat
02-10-2005, 11:38 PM
Those paintings are awesome! They have such intriguing subjectmatter (I hope they werent all from observation...) and the color choice, however determined , is great.


Good job!

Kirt
02-10-2005, 11:48 PM
Interesting idea and paintings. I second the "99 bottles of beer on the wall" theme. It's pretty funny suggestion and communicates the motivation/excuses behind the paintings.

beer = pub
on the wall = art

And it sets a goal of 99 paintings ... good luck to your liver and art. :D

scoshi
02-11-2005, 06:59 AM
Sweeeet man i love the idea of u painting in the pub and so on, also love the paintings :thumbsup: :scream:

bobtilton
02-11-2005, 02:37 PM
99 - that is tempting (and tasty). Thanks for the kind words, all, and the advice Delusion. I will be angling low.

Imriela
02-11-2005, 04:36 PM
Hey now, art is one of the very few things in life that truly mixes well with alcohol. Plus, you're motivating yourself to put something out. So screw the friendly jibes and keep painting at the pub!

These are fascinating, completely non-crappy, and I can't even begin to guess which ones are done under the influence of one pint as opposed to three. Your colors, whatever you may say, are riviting.

And "Pub Scrawls" and "99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall" are both pretty frickinilarious show titles.

midazolam
03-10-2005, 07:53 PM
You know, given their size and context, you could call the show pint-sized paintings. Though it would probably require explanation for full effect, so maybe not so great - but if you DO paint more on beermats, then it might come across without need for an explanation.

:m

bobtilton
03-10-2005, 08:45 PM
I don't know - I think it's got a nice read without an explanation - thanks! good one. I think I am going for something a little vague anyway. I'll probably have some sort of explanation off to the side.

Thanks a bunch from everyone, this far. Dare I say, 'keep 'em coming'? While I may not make it to 99 before I put up the show, I've still got some time to chew on titles still while I do some more tiles.

I think this question fits into this thread - Can anyone recommend some good stout beers to try? Presently, I'm hooked on the Mackeson XXX.

hobo
03-13-2005, 07:55 AM
I like these a lot, and the colours are definately pub. Don't know about a name, but I'll throw "slurp" into the pot.

MechaHateChimp
03-13-2005, 08:10 AM
Wow, these are actually really nice. I grew doing traditional illustration so I tend to struggle working on the computer when making images. Its nice to see work like yours. It makes me really miss the smell of mineral spirits and paint underneath my fingernails. Great work and kind regards.

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