2D: old man

[geoffr]

very nice.
i never really got on with painter. maybe i'll give it another go.
i'd love to see this as a texture on a 3d model

[tubby]

thnx. yah, that would be pretty cool to make a texture for a character out of a completely unrealistic painting. maybe i'll try that and see. yah, painter has some cool features, but some frustrating ones too.

[.:Jupiter_Jazz]

thats nutz man :buttrock: i have no idea how to do things like that, ive been trying forever, i have a wacom intuos 2. my only real problem is geting the colors and stuff right, its real frusterating. maybe you could give me some pointers

[dvornik]

What do you mean by "from a photo reference"? If you looked at it and painted it's very nice. The wrinkles on his face are very successfull. But then again there are all these clone tools and all of that, but i wouldn't expect that from you.

Personally i think painter 7 (unlike the previous versions which suffer from interface "ideosyncrasies") is a great tool. Really underrated, especially by 3D community.

[tubby]

hey dvornik, i created it by using the photo as a template for the proportions and for some color sampling. I added layers of detail till i got the correct colors and the right proportions. No clone tools were used just the pen tool. I hope using the photo as a template for proportions isn't bad, if so please tell me because im kinda new at creating art in these programs. i'm using painter6 in class and i really find the interface pretty cluttered, but i think im getting used to it. thats sad it's an underrated tool, i think its a strong tool, and seen some really good work done on it.

hey .:Jupiter_Jazz, thanks for the nice words, heres the layers i used to make the image. i seriously dont think im qualified to give any good advice since im pretty new to this whole thing myself. What i found useful though is to break the details and the basic color blocks into seperate layers. i hope these images help a bit.:)

[dvornik]

I think it's a very nice painting. I don't think it's wrong to use reference. How did you get that depth effect on the wrinkles? On the left side of his face the transition to hair looks not very natural and some hairs may need to be less uniformly thick and more translucent.

[tubby]

thanks dvornik:) i got that depth effect by using the tool at a really low opacity as well as really small. the dark areas of the wrinkles are areas where i went over many times with the pen but i kept the opacity low.the dark areas of the wrinkles have a slightly darker color to them, but its mostly because i went over the area enough to raise the opacity.the base color has a chance the come through in the areas where the thickness of the wrinkle layer is thin(it also changes the color of the wrinkle because its mixing with the base color because of its low opacity). this way i fade out to just the base color. the highlights are done the same way, and you can see between the wrinkles and the highlights are just areas where the base color is showing through. thanks for pointing out that area which the hair meets the face, i wouldn't have noticed it unless you pointed it out, but now its driving me crazy, ahhaah. i hope i made sense in my explanation, and thanks again for writing, i feel invisible in here most the time.:)

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