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leho
01-30-2005, 04:17 PM
ok can anyone tell any good combustion tutorial sites?

xbreaka
01-30-2005, 06:57 PM
www.discreet.com
http://www.fxguide.com/fxtips-list-8.html
http://www.cgplanet.net/

leho
01-31-2005, 12:21 PM
cgplanet.net tutorials doesn't work man. just plain text, no links or anything

leho
02-14-2005, 11:29 AM
looks like learning itself is the best. but there is still one thing i just don't get at all.
how to use tracker? what does it exactly do... cvan anyone please tell me

MadSkillzMan
02-16-2005, 12:32 AM
Look for the tutorial on discreets site about using particles to follow a space ship.

Basically waht a tracker does, is you set one up, and it analyzes the pixels wihtin it. You click track, and it "tracks" or follows the pixel selection to whereever it moves. Its quite picky IMO and i just get mad and manually track.

Once it creates coordinates, you save it, then apply it to a particle or something. i think i used them once.

fragmaster170
02-17-2005, 12:16 AM
Hello, glad to see that someone else is trying to join the Combustion family. I to was trying to get a grasp of the UI just a few weeks ago, these tutorials have helped me tremendously. It is unfortunate that Combustion 4 will be released within a matter of weeks though, I just know I will have to learn everything again :cry:
http://www4.discreet.com/combustion/combustion.php?id=207

michaeljr
02-17-2005, 04:01 AM
don't worry about Combustion 4 that much. the interface hasn't changed much at all, the've just added some new features, but the basic are all the same. that's the nice thing about Combustion is that it's the same as it has been in the past plus being based off the Flint and Flame, it's a great way to learn the basic if you can't afford the more expensive software.

I know that Digital Domain uses it because it's a cheap and easy way to train people to work up to their Flint/Flame. I also heard that a lot of Spiderman 2 was done in Combustion, on laptops while sitting on a train. See you can work the basics in Combustion, export that information out when you get to work right to your high end system, but not waste the money keeping them busy duing monkey working like pulling keys and rotoscoping.

michael JR.
www.mjrworld.com (http://www.mjrworld.com/)

leho
02-17-2005, 10:55 AM
yes, it's just like 3dsmax. when you know how to use max 6, there's no problem using max 7 :)
and combustion is really easy too actually. very logical. only there's a lot of tricks that you can't learn by yourself. you'll have to read tutorials or smth.

wavesmack
06-09-2005, 10:08 PM
http://www.cmivfx.com/dvd_combustion.asp

DVD 2 COMBUSTION
3D COMPOSITING IN COMBUSTION
(Volume 2, COMBUSTION)

We built this DVD to show you the WHOLE TRUTH about compositing. When
working in a production pipeline, often source materials are coming from
multiple applications and even multiple FX houses. Learn to bridge all the
gaps in your workflow with file translations from Cinema 4D, Maya, Boujou,
PFTrack and Combustion. See how all the products integrate quite well with
each other, and allow you to get the results you need. We designed it this
way to show you the worst case scenario, and how its not that bad after all.
We have all the final footage for the Combustion composites on the DVD-Rom.
If you have any of the other apps, we also included there working files for
those as well.

CONTENT CREATIONS:
Of course we include all of the courseware for this DVD, but that would be
robbing you of the true production experience. We show you how to build the
materials used on this DVD as well! Not only that but we include the work
files of all the applications used on this DVD Rom. This part of the DVD
covers setting up background plates to be rendered in global illumination
within the cinema 4d interface. We include BOTH the rendered files AND the
C4D docs as well.

PFTRACK:
Lately there has been great debate amongst 3d match moving artists. Boujou
or PFTrack? Well, decide for yourselves! We show you how to use both! In
this part of the DVD, we track the footage created by our renderings to
compare the actual camera animation from Cinema 4D AND the data extracted
from PFTrack. We'll use the ground as the origin plane and save this data in
varied formats, so that we can created 3d rain elements in maya to match the
footage!

BOUJOU:
We continue on this 3d tracking adventure with Boujou. We show you how to
change the plane of orientation to make the top of the skyscraper the ground
plane. We export this data out so that we can match move a 3D billboard
inside of maya to match up in combustion! Learn how to track and export the
data you will need at your production facility! Compare the two trackers and
decide what best fits your needs.

MAYA BILLBOARD MATCHMOVE:
Before we get to combustion, we'll make a 3d billboard in Maya and match
move it to the city background plate using the tracked data from Boujou.
Learn how to create render layer passes in Maya so you can a lot of freedom
in your 3d composite within Combustion. Create Color Passes, And Shadow
Passes while adding a shadow catcher for the top of the main building.

MAYA RAIN MATCHMOVE:
We take the PFTrack 3d data, and use it to guide and line up our 3d particle
rain inside of Maya's dynamic module. Learn how to quickly generate a simple
rain effect for our 3d composite within Combustion

VIEWING THE FINAL ELEMENTS:
This section of the DVD shows you how to import all your data and put it in
proper order and color space for our 3D composite within combustion.

BRANCH 1, USING THE PRERENDERED 3D FOOTAGE:
Our 3D Compositing tutorial is 2 pronged. First learn how to take all of our
pre-rendered footage and finalize our match move for output. We use 3D
Compositing space only to compile our 2D imagery.

BRANCH 2, USING THE 3D TRACK DATA IN COMBUSTION:
Well, we tracked all the data in Boujou and PFTrack. Use this method to cut
out the middle phase of rendering. Create your own billboard and match it in
3d right inside of combustion. Just import your 3d point cloud and camera
data directly into the Combustion Workspace.

NEBULA PHASE 1:
We discuss the footage created from our 3D compositing Photoshop DVD and how
to break it down within the Combustion interface. Import the data as grouped
layers from a single Photoshop Document. (Footage Included)

NEBULA PHASE 2:
Create 3D parallax with the footage from the previous step. Learn how to go
from 2d to 3d and make it believable. Learn about 3D camera animations in
both X and Z while comparing the results. (Footage Included)

NEBULA PHASE 3:
We finalize our tutorial by completing an actual shot. Use this footage as
both a transition and lead way into another shot. Add custom filters to
dress it up for eye candy type effects. (Footage Included)

THE PLANET SPACE SCENE:
Well, you spent all that time creating your own star field and planets. Lets
use them to create a "Distant Star Pan Style Shot". Use the existing
materials from the first DVD to create a 3D flyby within combustion. These
3D techniques add lots of power to your shot. Define distance and parallax
with simple moves and layering orders. (Footage Included)

http://www.cmivfx.com/dvd_combustion.asp

DoubleSupercool
06-10-2005, 11:21 AM
The Street Productions (http://thestreetproductions.com/%20)
VTC (https://secure.vtc.com/products/combustion.htm%20)
Runaway Training (www.runawaytraining.com%20)
Focal Easy Guide to Combustion 3 (http://books.elsevier.com/uk/focalbooks/uk/subindex.asp?isbn=0240519558&country=United+Kingdom&community=focalbooks&ref=&mscssid=X0UJJD873VMM8K4XN2S6SASBGK2V3R39)
Handmade Digital - Practice footage in Cineon format (http://www.handmadedigital.com/index-4.html%20)
DVGarage - compositing a lightsabe sequence. AE but principles apply (http://www.dvgarage.com%20)

As far as I can tell it's pretty much all self teaching in Australia. My money would be (and will be) on The Street Productions DVD's by Ken La Rue. He is looking to have the combustion 4 ones out at the end of July. Of course they cost money, but where else are you going to get 20 hrs of Combustion training by one of a handful of official discreet specialists for a couple of hundred bucks? If I took a similar course in here in say, Shake, it would cost me $1000 plus.

cistec
07-14-2005, 11:40 PM
The Street Productions (http://thestreetproductions.com/%20)
VTC (https://secure.vtc.com/products/combustion.htm%20)
Runaway Training (http://www.runawaytraining.com%20/)
Focal Easy Guide to Combustion 3 (http://books.elsevier.com/uk/focalbooks/uk/subindex.asp?isbn=0240519558&country=United+Kingdom&community=focalbooks&ref=&mscssid=X0UJJD873VMM8K4XN2S6SASBGK2V3R39)
Handmade Digital - Practice footage in Cineon format (http://www.handmadedigital.com/index-4.html%20)
DVGarage - compositing a lightsabe sequence. AE but principles apply (http://www.dvgarage.com%20/)

As far as I can tell it's pretty much all self teaching in Australia. My money would be (and will be) on The Street Productions DVD's by Ken La Rue. He is looking to have the combustion 4 ones out at the end of July. Of course they cost money, but where else are you going to get 20 hrs of Combustion training by one of a handful of official discreet specialists for a couple of hundred bucks? If I took a similar course in here in say, Shake, it would cost me $1000 plus.


Hi Double Supercool

Did you get round to getting the trainning set for Combustion? if so were they good ? and if they were, any chance of buying a copy from you or sharing the cost. I am doing a Media course and need to really learn quick and at my slow pace visual training is my only saviour. and once finished will not need them again...I dont think.

FM

fwtep
07-15-2005, 12:30 AM
Hi Double Supercool

Did you get round to getting the trainning set for Combustion? if so were they good ? and if they were, any chance of buying a copy from you or sharing the cost. I am doing a Media course and need to really learn quick and at my slow pace visual training is my only saviour. and once finished will not need them again...I dont think.

FMI hope he's not going to burn a copy for you. And it's probably not a good idea to ask for a pirate copy of something on a public forum.

Fred

leho
07-15-2005, 01:05 AM
haha good one :D

DoubleSupercool
07-24-2005, 12:53 PM
I just picked up the 3 combustion DVD's from Runaway Training. The guys were really helpful and the DVD's arrived in no time. They're not really a "learn everything" type thing. They pick one topic and do a half hour lesson on it, covering every step. There are also 3 quick tips on each DVD (and the workspaces/footage) and an interview with someone in the industry.

For USD$20 each they are hard to fault. Lee Roderick has also contributed to the new Autodesk Combustion 4 book put out by Focal Press.

Ken LaRue has said that his v4 DVD's will be out in August as he is finalising them at the moment.

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