Still life: Waterlily (Chinese painting style with Maya)

[facial]

Oh, i wanna tell you this work has no one texture, all done by model and shader. have fun:beer:

[Joel Hooks]

I really look forward to seeing that in motion. It's great as a still, but the animation is going to make it live!

[River]

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[lyppeter]

expecting the animation!!

[facial]

Thanx guys, :beer:

[holder]

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[hhmaya]

there is Very creativity£¡:rolleyes:

[sarfarazsoomro]

what da,..................
i thought it was painting.....great work...:bounce:

[tpe]

Great stuff, first time i have seen that style in 3d, it will be so impressive as an animation.

tpe

[tauism]

wow, i didn't know this was possible!

One thing though, about the big water lily in the middle.
The ink fades look too smooth and the edges are to sharp IMHO.
Maybe have the edges bleed a little? Dunno how you can change the ink to make it look more realistic though...

But really cool stuff

[alanMao]

like this :applause:

[geoffr]

very nice. looking forward to seeing the animation as well.

[ukyosoft]

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[say-g]

bring on the animation!

[facial]

http://www.3dwing.com/attachments/200212/16183133-waterlily.gif

Here is a rough quick test rendering, Sorry about low rendering qulity.

Thanx guys for love this style.:beer: :beer:
I will keep doing.

[playmesumch00ns]

can you tell us a bit about the shading network you used to do this?

very impressive stuff!:applause:

[Khepri]

I love the mixture of the two styles!

great work!!!

:buttrock:

[pabbloz]

Excelent! Really! :eek: :thumbsup:

lovely style! :love:
you can create a serie of wallpapers now :) Great colors and transparencies!

[HapZungLam]

oh man there 's another one. this is fantastic. Where did you get the shader? do you make it on your own?

[spunkman]

:applause:

[Larry_g1s]

Wow! Nice work. I thought it was a painting to. Amazing.....

[z8er]

awesome i love it :D

[if10w]

this is crazy :surprised would like to know how you did both shaders for the leave(the diluted watercolor) and the lotus(the solid brush stroke)

great work! :love:

if10w

[Raphael-Lacoste]

very impressive,
I like ur painterlike feeling!
we really feel the ink effect, great job,
If u do a short, I'm sure that well see it
screened somewhere ;)

like to see some original work !

:beer:

[DiB]

I've got a painting with this style in my computer room and I love seeing what you've done. Do you happen to have a link or some information about aquiring paintings like this? Mine was handed down and I'd love to have a couple more.

[unplugged]

so good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:applause: :applause: :applause:

[Valkyrien]

that is sooo frickin' cool! :eek:

[Mangaka604]

Great job man! I've got a ton of chinese brush paintings at home (mom is a painter and her master is quite famous actually). I'm still trying to figure out how you got the shader to look like the way it does. Awesome. Absolutely awesome.

[BluemoonX]

I am sure the animation will be very interesting to see

[geoffr]

i love the style.
great fly around.
are you going to animate anything in it, like the dragonfly?
:thumbsup:

[Raymonkey]

Great stuff, I totally love NPR stuff and this was a top example. I have only one teeny crit - the little fly past gif looked too solid, which betrayed its CG origin.

It would be cool to get it to "boil" a little - change the line width, brush size as it rotates so it looks more like an animated painting (dunno, just my opinion, this may not be what you were going for).

Lovely work!

[facial]

Wow, Thank you all guys. :beer: :beer:
geoffr, Thank you love this style, i am makeing a short clip with this style, something like the leave will wave with wind, dragonfly flys and animate the camrea. :)
Raymonkey Thank you for your advises, i agree with you about thoes petals should feels softer, i will ajust it.

i just ajusted dragonfly's look also, because it feels too 3D maybe, Well, i post up more one image, please tell me how your feeling is.:)

[Raymonkey]

Looking nice, although the eyes are still a little toony - maybe remove the pupil. Definitely less 3d though.

I have found a couple of examples of "boiling" for you to look at:

Unnofficial Roobarb and Custard Shrine (http://www.sausagenet.freeserve.co.uk/roobarb/)

The image shimmers every frame because each drawing is slighlty different from the next (I hope that makes sense).

Also the short film "Fishing" by PDI does it:

Fishing (http://www.awn.com/mag/issue4.11/4.11clips/Fishing.mov)

This is a little small, but it wobbles as if it was painted on watercolour paper.

Also related, but not quite the same style is the Lambchop video produced by Shynola, which you can grab here:

Is a woman (http://www.cityslang.com/videos/woman.zip)

Which I think is great :) (Although the mov is a little small)

Keep up the good work!

[facial]

Originally posted by Raymonkey
Looking nice, although the eyes are still a little toony - maybe remove the pupil. Definitely less 3d though.

I have found a couple of examples of "boiling" for you to look at:

Unnofficial Roobarb and Custard Shrine (http://www.sausagenet.freeserve.co.uk/roobarb/)

The image shimmers every frame because each drawing is slighlty different from the next (I hope that makes sense).

Also the short film "Fishing" by PDI does it:

Fishing (http://www.awn.com/mag/issue4.11/4.11clips/Fishing.mov)

This is a little small, but it wobbles as if it was painted on watercolour paper.

Also related, but not quite the same style is the Lambchop video produced by Shynola, which you can grab here:

Is a woman (http://www.cityslang.com/videos/woman.zip)

Which I think is great :) (Although the mov is a little small)

Keep up the good work!

Realy thank you for your information, It will help me a lot. Well, i heard "fishing" clip from PDI some mouthes before. i am glad to see it here, i realy love this clip, yeah it so small. :)
Thank you, i will keep doing.:beer: i will post up when i finish to fix it. please keep give me advices.

[zhou2624]

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[rISO]

it seems nice but i ma curious now ow u did it, pls share some info about it :wip:

[Gonzo The Great]

Nice.

I don't know your intentions for the final render, so this is only directed towards the sample. I'm guessing you just wanted to display the 3d nature of the effect with a turnaroung, but in the final render, something this beautiful, and it is, needs to have a very soft attitude. If you're using the piece in a Demo Reel or something, I suggest maybe a Moving Hold for the beginning showing hardly any movement at all. Animate the flowers as usual but only give a slight camera rotation fixed on the flower to enhance the illusion of space.

Lastly, perhaps the timing of the animation could mimick the nature of chinese ink. i.e. Heavily use of a combination of 3D and 2D Motion Blur and a Motion-Ghosting effect on everything in the scene to simulate ink-bleeding.

Was that Maya's standard renderer BTW?

[lmc]

wat a creativity work and good idea, share more with us:beer: :scream: :wip:

[Gonzo The Great]

patience, grasshopper

[facial]

Gonzo The Great
I am makeing a formal clip with this style, i agree with your idea about how to animate these things. :beer:
2D Motion Blur and a Motion-Ghosting is great for express ink feeling, i agree with you. :) Well, yes, i render it with Maya's standard renderer. and i knew few rendering technic things also.
i will be patience, thank you read my mind. thanx a lot
:beer: :beer:

[Gameleo]

Very strange, but it really seems to be a paint...

[Aura]

Hey buddy, it's me-outman at the chinaDV!
GREAT WORK!
i promised give 5 stars for u and here it is!
:applause:

[joy]

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Õæ°ô~~~~

[SEAMAN]

wonderful!!
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[Gonzo The Great]

Facial--

Do you have access to Renderman Artist Tools ?

[facial]

Originally posted by Gonzo The Great
Facial--

Do you have access to Renderman Artist Tools ?

No, i just did it with Maya's standard tools and renderer.:beer:

[pabbloz]

facial! what about the serie of wallpapers! :annoyed: ;)
Very smart!

[zeb]

U made a very sensitive work !!

Bravo!
:rolleyes: :D :rolleyes:

[facial]

pabbloz, thax, :surprised :p
thank u zeb aslo

:beer: :beer: :beer:

[lmc]

he leg seen like need more detail i think....:applause: :beer:

[Mangled Poly]

Man i wanna see this animation now!:D

[katon]

never seen anythingl like it it looks great. i cant wait fo the animation

[lmc]

Yup, can't wait for the animation man....keep post and i will follow the thread....very good job:beer: :applause:

[Chrissy]

Hi Facial

That is really amazing can you PLEASE tell us how you got that beautiful look and what shaders you used?

Thanks:thumbsup:

[KazuyaMochu]

well, I must say, It amazing
I mean, it's very, very original, and rally well done

plus I love tradicional chinese and japanese painting
So I get to see them alot
and the only thing I find diferent is the text
you text is a bit darker and clearer that the ones int the actual pictures
maybe if you faded them a little

that it

amazing, amazing amazing!

[Wigaru Wiyamoto]

Hey facial. That's excellent work!

I just posted (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21323) a thread in the Maya forum about non-photorealistic rendering.

If you could even just describe in a general sense how you got the clean/consistant line on the right flower I'd be THRILLED.

Keep up the good work, I hope to see more great stuff soon!

:bounce:

[ggg]

I like the idea of only moving the camera around slightly as unfortunately so many great NPRs when animated turn back into too much of a 3D look, or perhasp you have enough control in your shaders and outlines to retain the integrity of the elements contributing to a 2D look so that it keeps 2D composition, surface and line integegrity.

nice shrimp

[facial]

Well, thanks a lot guys.
i am makeing that animatin clip. but i have to work for my boss each day:wip: :wip: :beer:
Wigaru Wiyamoto
I'v see u work, It is nice look, interesting. :thumbsup: I accept your idea, thax.

[kw200025]

good! I like it

[dopink]

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[newek]

oh!
nice work! as a chinese, ÎÒÏ£Íû¿´µ½¸ü¶àµÄÃñ×å×÷Æ·£¡£¡£¡

[michaelyip]

good job...no comment at all

[lmc]

can't wait for the animation, any update?!:applause:

[WannaB]

How long did it take you?

[Iguiniz.X.]

Man your work is really great man, very original and he motion it really gives the feeling that it is a animation drawn by oil paint.
You know the oscar wining animation made by a dutch guy,named : the father and the daughter
it is a small animation and it gives the feeling that it is made the same way..
I didn´t read more then the begining but will you have some more test ot gifs??

Maye a idea,.... I c you have a layer over the gif that has a texture f old paper or some.. well it stays in the same place while the camera moves, Maybe it is a idea to give it every frame a random rexture which gives the same feeling as old black and white movie were you get flickering frames... I hope you understand what I mean

xavier

P.s

my opinion is that the dragon fly on the flower ruins a bit the animation (as far as you can call it that)
I mean he grabs the eye cos is red and then he is a bit in the corner of the corner of the screen... so he is´t in composition with the shot and the shot gives the feeling the flower is suposed to be in the attention and not the dragonfly... then I know red inks are usedin those paintigs but still I think it issomething to think abouth


and last thing the dragon fly really looks 3d and the leaves of the flower look like oilpiant strokes and this also is why I think the dragonly fals of the image.

[facial]

Originally posted by dopink
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WannaB, I took about tow year to do it, from my first idea to finish to render this still water lily.:)

[facial]

lmc, thank u so excite, but please give me more time.:beer:

Iguiniz.X. i wanna thank u, i got u mind, especially about dragonfly feeling. i will think about all u said. here i post up another image from different view, i ajust the dragonfly's feeling, just tell me how u feeling is. :beer: :beer:

[mr haw]

wan mei!

hmmm...i cant type chinese text now bec of ie6...anyway,i hope u make a tutorial about it! where are you from in china?

[lmc]

Hmmm,sorry i din't mind to say that....just take ur time:D
The dragonfly u had been edit seen like not some fix with the background,are u do it to show the dragonfly to be more attract?! However,i still like it anyway...:applause: :beer:

[Aeroplane]

Nice Jobs! I like ur work!! The texturing and rendering are so great! And the most impressive thing is, this is our chinese's traditional art...And I am in the same place as u, man, Shenzhen China. Keep posting more of ur work. I want to c em all...:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[hunter7338]

Thats excellent man!

a very good work with the painting illution, and with the real sensation of water painting of the ancient artists :applause:

keep the good work and go for the animation ! :beer:


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[Iguiniz.X.]

I´m glad you understood what I tried to mention.
Now that I look better at it I c you have a really detailed dragonfly.
His wings have texture, so if you have a shot of flowers which look as if they have been made with oilpaint strokes and a dragonfly which is way smaller and more detailed ( almot real)....then I think they can´t coexcist in 1 picture.
well here is a pic I made, forgive me for the horible photo shop ownmade dragonfly but I hardly ever use photoshop for coloring or drawing. But as you see I pointed out that some things are
really detailed. maybe if you make the wings look like a 3D oilpaint stroke and no veins texture on it. Then I think it will look the same style as the flowers. Abouth the pupil and the black point in the wing, I ain´t sure if they make it look worse or better and that also counts for his legs holding the flower.
But I think that you can make it look better with a less detailed wing.

Xavier

[lmc]

oh, ic wat u guys means....sorry for my stupid comment:buttrock: :love:

[DimSum]

Very nice work !:thumbsup:
I can also thank you to make the chinese painting know to people (yep I'm another compatriot :)). I've done some chinese calligraphy some years ago, and it's really awesome it looks like real painting !

Maybe just a thing you should add, is a "backgroung" to simulate the texture of the paper. You know, a bit wavy and undulating and the old-colors-like, that kind of things.
Otherwise, impatient to see the coming work !

[Nicool]

I supose you know the veteran of this technic...

http://www-viz.tamu.edu/showcase/thswkimg/c_chan/index.html

He has done it using Prman.

Regards

[facial]

Thank you a lot. i realy appreciate what you think about my works,:beer: :beer:

mr haw, ÄãºÃ, ÎÒÔÚÉîÛÚ, ÄãÄØ?
lmc Thank you follow this post still.
Aeroplane May u tell me your location in Shenzhen?
Iguiniz.X. Thank u about your advices, i will think about it.
DimSum Your advices, i realy agree with u, i am thinking how to add paper effect at bckgroud with compositing.
Nicool i'v see that good stuff before, but u know i think that clip looks needs to think more about feeling of traditional China paniting.

ron@idmt.org.cn

[ddv]

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[lmc]

u re welcome lal, i also appreaciate on ur work:beer: :thumbsup:

[Chrissy]

Hi facial your wok is sooo aweosme, can you please tell us a little of the method you used it would be very interesting thank you!

:wavey:

[dde]

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[facial]

Thanks guys, and anyone can give me more recource about this kind od look? like websit address.....animation clip....
Thanks.:beer:

[redwing]

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[facial]

=redwing=, Thak u.
So far, It is great to animation with this style, Did you see this rough test, yes, it is really rough.
http://www.chinadv.com/bbs/photo/200291119391412496.gif

Short film with this style is makeing in progress.
:beer:

[ddv]

i ·þÁË you

[Meshbuilder]

Cool. I like it alot. I haven´t seen a 3D scene like this one before, very original :beer:

[reiv]

hum nothing to say, just wow :)
Great work.

[lei guo]

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[Carina]

It's a good thread and all.

What I find quite annoying however is the way you keep posting about one sentence of comments in other threads and then three sentences of inviting people to visit your own thread, even when it has nothing what so ever in common with the other person's thread.

I'm sorry, it just really gets me on edge.

[leigh]

Wow, that is looking really awesome :thumbsup:
I don't really have any crits, as I have never really worked with this sort of look... Just keep going in the direction that you are, and it's sure to look awesome when you're done :D

[facial]

Thank you for you love this feeling.

Carina, I agree with your comments and thank you
:beer:

Leigh, i am happy you come to my post really, i don't know why i am happy, i just really want your comments. and thank you.
i am makeing a short animation with this style, so for it not bad. i will let you know when i finish it. What kind of your job, you are a CGer or .......?

:)

[ggg]

Originally posted by Nicool
I supose you know the veteran of this technic...

http://www-viz.tamu.edu/showcase/thswkimg/c_chan/index.html

He has done it using Prman.

Regards
GREAT
do you know any more good NP sites?

[facial]

ggg, NP site means natural painting site? :beer:

[FastRay]

Hi,

very nice and beautiful Rendering !
I Love it,

bye

FastRay

[facial]

FastRay, thank you for you love my work, do you have any post here?:beer:

[dobermunk]

facial: great work

NP = possibly NPR?
non-photorealistic rendering?

Here's a jaw-dropper:
http://www.cs.princeton.edu/gfx/proj/wnpr/


check out this EVA renderer:
http://www.algorithmic.com/index_e.html

general link collection:
http://www.red3d.com/cwr/npr/

definitely enter your work here:
http://www.npar.org/

[facial]

Originally posted by dobermunk
facial: great work

NP = possibly NPR?
non-photorealistic rendering?

Here's a jaw-dropper:
http://www.cs.princeton.edu/gfx/proj/wnpr/


check out this EVA renderer:
http://www.algorithmic.com/index_e.html

general link collection:
http://www.red3d.com/cwr/npr/

definitely enter your work here:
http://www.npar.org/

Well, dobermunk, I see,
Really thank you for you give me these websits, I appreciate it, It will help me a lot, .:D
:beer:

[gnarlycranium]

That water lily animation thing barely seems possible, it's lovely! Were you going to add any more color, or will everything but the dragonfly stay black and white?

[timovihola]

First I must say that I've never seen something like this before! The gif animation looked really promising, would love to see this in full screen.. One thing I noticed when I looked at the gif is that the dragonfly could be more as the center of the image, kinda build the scene more around it, the compositions you have going on the still images are really good, but on the animation the dragonfly was cropped partly out of the whole image.

Have you seen Schindler's List (a film directed by Steven Spielberg)? It's black and white film and in few scenes there's a girl with a red dress, everything else around her was black and white.. the camera followed closely what the girl was doing and the viewer did too. Maybe you could remove some details on the less important areas to get the same effect.
I usually watch movies on crappy theaters because the good theaters are too far away, but when you're watching a film in an excellent theater where the canvas fills the whole view the experience is totally different, I believe most film makers make their movies for the best theaters.. so as a director you need to build the scene so the viewer doesn't get lost in the details. On big screen you can't look at the whole image as one, if you're looking at the extra who walks in the left side and you are not seeing the talking main actor on the right side the directing is a failure, I think it was some guy from Pixar who said that they use colours that stand out of the background, details and high contrast to "tell" the viewer where to look at. A good thing about animated films is that there's no details on screen unless you do them yourself, as everything else, details take time to do. The less details you need the faster you can make something. And in some situations less is more, you, as an artist, need to know what to show and what to hide. In this way I really like what you have done so far, white simple background, a flower made using black lines with some detailing and a red dragonfly with the most details.. there's a good contrast between the different elements, maybe even decrease the contrast (=make them closer to white) of the less important parts to get the attention to the flower and dragonfly.. red spot on a white canvas will capture the eyes and when the audience is looking at what YOU want it's easier to tell the story. I got inspiration to do my own short when I saw Pixar's short film "For the Birds", your images have that same feeling mixed with Chinese style :) Inspiring work I have to say!

[freeman00]

May be you can try to make a hill or some river,You know,Hills and rivers is veay wonderful in chinese pating.
I wish to see more...
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[facial]

Thank you, Timo Vihola & Gnarly Cranium , You gives me a lot of inspiration,
Especial Timo Vihola, I appreciate what you found in my work. I agree with you about inportant area in a film completely. Glenn (who directe the film "Mulan 2") said to me the same point, He said to me that i should know what things is the best important in this short. I will adjust the dragonfly's role and fade others red elments when i do formal animation. I'v see Schindler's List, I love that shorts you mentioned. I will see it agian.^_^
btw I'v been your website, I wanna say your works is so great, I love them.
Thank you. .:beer:


Well, Thank you freeman00, I am create the things you wishes to see, I will post up them and hope you like them when you see them:)

[Neil]

Why go through so much trouble making it 3D when you want it to look 2D.
Just making this in a 2D program would not get any responses from you guys... why the praise just because it's 3D?

[dobermunk]

why 3D?

1) the look has its own appeal. I don't see freeman's attempt as trying to 'do' the painted brush 1 to 1, but using that as a stylistic point of departure. Just as many artists tyake the photograph. They aren't trying to create a photograph, but the aesthetics are similar.

2) animating this kind of style within traditional animation (brushing every frame) would have a nice look as well, but it would take a very long time.

3) it's there ;-)

btw I would respond whether it was a drawn animation or a 2D program. I follow many threads - these are all tools.

[Pinky_Powers]

That is some truly beautiful work; I love how much of the Chinese culture is in this piece of work. I myself feel as though I have China blood running through my vanes must of the time. So naturally a piece like this would appeal to me. But alas, I am but an American. Yet, I really love your work. Keep it up man.

[facial]

Pink_powers, Thank you, I just really want to bring Chinese culture in to movies again, I wish you happy in USA.:beer:

dobermunk, You really read my mind, I appreciate that you said in your latest reply,
btw I bring here some test images about the dragonfly's eyes. Keep give me advives please, Thax.:beer:

[facial]

one more

[dobermunk]

I like the different perspectives of 'C' alot.
Like a dragonfly, the pupils aren't really pupils, but rather textures on the eyes. The 2nd and 3rd images of 'C' work best for me.

edge:
The 'C' in the first jpg and the 'C' viewed from above both have harder edges than the 'C' from the side, which don't work as well. And the softer edges are transparent. If possible, I think the soft edge needs to be in keeping with the body and also block out elements behind it. In a painterly approach, I don't think there would be this kind of overlapping of inks, first you would paint the eye, then the head, then the legs, each time lifting the brush to avoid existing ink.

color:
I think the greyish tones of the eye in 'D' work well with the reddish body. If you like the color in C, I would consider reducing the yellow.

detail:
I like the structure, but it has to fit in between the body (no texture/soft edge) and the wing (tight brush/hard edge). Right now it looks like a procedural that is niether here nor there (even though it looks good). Maybe if you can make it blotchier, i.e. 'F' with a filter?

Looking great!

[chanseimage]

Lovin It!!

[facial]

Originally posted by dobermunk
I like the different perspectives of 'C' alot.
Like a dragonfly, the pupils aren't really pupils, but rather textures on the eyes. The 2nd and 3rd images of 'C' work best for me.

edge:
The 'C' in the first jpg and the 'C' viewed from above both have harder edges than the 'C' from the side, which don't work as well. And the softer edges are transparent. If possible, I think the soft edge needs to be in keeping with the body and also block out elements behind it. In a painterly approach, I don't think there would be this kind of overlapping of inks, first you would paint the eye, then the head, then the legs, each time lifting the brush to avoid existing ink.

color:
I think the greyish tones of the eye in 'D' work well with the reddish body. If you like the color in C, I would consider reducing the yellow.

detail:
I like the structure, but it has to fit in between the body (no texture/soft edge) and the wing (tight brush/hard edge). Right now it looks like a procedural that is niether here nor there (even though it looks good). Maybe if you can make it blotchier, i.e. 'F' with a filter?

Looking great!

Wow, dobermunk, Thant you very much. I agree with your comments comletely. It will makes me to get more confidence about my research work.
I have finished to storyboad, set up and lay out work for my short movie, I will let you know when i finish.:beer:

Thank you also, chanseimage :beer:

[slime]

Hey, what a wonderful project! :buttrock:

Your work is original and very creative. The render have the feeling of the original paintings, but I think it would be better if you included some 2D parts. I mean, to put some chinese letters or drawed things on the composition.

When I see your work, I imagine the camara panning from right to lefto or left to right- The camere shows the flowers, that moves with the wind or something, and then the shrimps that move as if they were in a river or something. That, combined with chinese letters, etc, would made a killer video! :D

If you need any help compositing or with the processing, drop me a mail!

Regards! :thumbsup:

[seanr]

WOW!!!

This is absolutely one of the most amazing things I've ever seen done in a 3D program. I can't wait to see more!

I've had an interested in architecture for as long as I can remember, and I've always particularly liked japanese and chinese architecture and art. Incidentally, my favorite architect is Frank Lloyd Wright, who at one point had amassed the largest collection of Japanese prints outside of Japan.

This is just awesome. What I'd love to see you do with it is have a photorealistic scene morph into a painting like this, and then back away to show a painter painting the scene as it animates on the paper. Then maybe the dragonfly could fly up out of it.

[lyca]

I´m always pleased if I have a look
at your posts. Thanks - this pics are
as great as everytime.

[proton]

looks great.....I would never have guessed it to be 3D....

Give us more.....:bounce:

[facial]

Tank you guys, :beer: :beer: :beer: Cheers

[itchi]

owow!!! that is freakin amazing! i too thought it was a painting...and to see it move around is awsome!!! i've worked in animation and am doing some 3d game stuff now but still have so little knowledge of the 3d medium :( this is amazing to me. i would love to see some animation of characters to see how smooth and flowing it can be (seems like most of the stuff outside of high end movie animations can capture the fluidity that is captured in traditional animation). awesome and very inspiring. my imaginatiin is running wild the the possibilities of and animated short of chinese brush painted characters. i cant wait to see what you come up with!

man i got to get around to the other forums.... i been stuck mainly in the 2d area :/

amazing work facial! :buttrock:

[Akurra]

Now this is *at last* very original 3d work. Animation is a must!!!!
I love it.:applause:

[keithv]

very impressive

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :eek:

[emilioG]

wow! I like it alot. Why don't you tell us what you used.
is it 3D and ink?
3D and photoshop?

It's great to see different styles. You'd expect to see 3D stuff here, but I believe there are some really talented people out there, and you're definately one of them.

Great job!

Honestly, the feeling I got from the picture (the 1st one you posted), is refreshing.

Thanx! :)

ps: also, please tell us what's written at the top left. If you have already, sorry everyone, but I'm at work, no time to read through 8 pages of comments. Again, sorry :)

[dbowker]

That's by far one of the coolest applications of 3D I've seen in along time! I've been hoping to see CG would start to catch up with painting for a while. Way to go in all regards!

[mayic]

Unbelievable!! This is very beautiful work and the potential is so far reaching. i can imagine a vast pond filled with waterlilies that are being gently rocked by the waves and the wind, insects buzzing in and out of view and the sound of flute played by someone in the distance. This is exactly what made me want to leave traditional painting for the pixeled world. I am beyond impressed, i am inspired.

mayic

[Amaan]

wow man! I am totally impressed by your idea! btw, where's the link to the animation u did? would love to see it

ROCK ON dude! it's not everyday that you see artwork as original as yours!

Amaan

[facial]

itchi, I'v see your works here, and I really love them. Thank you for your feeling. I am doing an animation clip with this style, and some characters will appears in it, I think you will love. I will pubblish it when i finish. :)

Akurra, keithv and dbowker,
I am glad for you loves my work. Thank u

emilioG, Well, Thank u first, and I did it all in Maya 4.0 only, and model with Maya modeling package, rendering with Maya standard rederer, no textures used. About those letters at the top left, I like to explain to you later (I have to translate into english).

mayic, You really got that gentle feeling from Chinese style, congratulation!! :beer:

AmaanAkram, hey. I am happy for get your reply here, I love your works, They are great:thumbsup: and Thank you for you loves my works. Well, here just has a rough animation test about wterlily turn arounds. http://www.chinadv.com/bbs/photo/200291119391412496.gif
The formal aniamtion makeing in progress.:)

Thank you all guys, Please keep give me comments, :beer:

[Amaan]

facial: you will send it to SIGGRAPH 2003, right? right? don't say "no" now :) you just gotta send it!

[facial]

Hey, AmaanAkram. Thank you for your suggest, But I don't know if they will accept this strange style, :hmm: Maybe I need more confident ? what you think?

[Goron]

facial: really good works!!! love it!
I'm agree with AmaanAkram, go mam!!! send it to Siggraph!

[Amaan]

>But I don't know if they will accept this strange style

i think that you got a great idea going. and you will never know what the people at siggraph think of your work unless they see it.

And even if they don't accept it, you'll know that atleast you tried. What have you got to lose? nothing. you have only to gain.

if you ask me, I think they'll definitely accept!

go go go!

:)


me

[facial]

AmaanAkram,Goron. You are right, I should to try, I will make a short story with this kind of style and send it. :beer:
Thank you!

go go go! :D

[Jeffo]

Excellent style! i have no crits because its quite unique! :) and to achieve it with a 3d package is very cool! :thumbsup:

[HapZungLam]

are you just keep modeling an do tests of your shader?

or are you making a reel of it? Please Please make a animatable 3D chiense painting movie!!!!!! it looks damn cool.

[Shady_Lady]

I'm just the beginner in the 3d field, I'm glad that you sent me the message. Your work is wonderful, I like people with original idea, you're now doing the animation with this style, right.
Some western people may not be able to accept the work with too "localized" idea, they need to be directed and know the spirit of Chinese Painting, is the "Water" usage ....with deformable shape and free style...., something like the usage of Particle, but not in the clone of nature, this is the unique oriental spirit that can wow the audience!

[killer1.0]

:buttrock:

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[dobermunk]

Siggraph is particularly receptive to npr stylistics.
But the main criterium is story. (For the shorts.)

Your stylistic is great, if you feel you need help in story, let me know. I'd be happy to help out.

[Viollus]

HI facial :)

I have to say i'm stunted, i had even no idea that such a thing is possible in 3d, i like this very very much. I've never seen traditional chinese paintign, but if they look like your 3d, I love them!

[sanhueza]

Hi, like I said earlier, I really love the style you have in this line of work. I just looked at the camera-move video you posted, and it looks like you'll be able to pull off the animation well.

I have just one suggestion: Try to keep the camera movement as subtle as possible. I'm afraid that changing the camera angle too much will give away the 3D aspect too much and take away from the painted look. You know, the way that cell-shaded 3D often gives itself away by trying to overdo it. You might do best with slow camera movement, from maybe just an overhead angle, and concentrate your animation on the animals and plants. That way it will look more like a painting come to life rather than a stylized VR tour.

Once again, beautiful work, I hope you finish a nice animation and send it to Siggraph and other festivals. Best of luck,

- Me

www.sanhueza.com

[k2skier]

this is some great stuff here, it reminds me of a film I worked on last spring where we created 3 different line styles to draw with in 3d. Keep up the great work and I hope to see more!

[Emiliano]

Hello Facial !

you said about Siggraph: "But I don't know if they will accept this strange style"

Just look at the comments of your folks, they all loved it !!!
Everybody loves the hard and original work.
You succeded in the effort of obtaining one traditional style using non traditional methods.
And with just this particular matter you can have serious attention. Add to this a little story and you have a perfect piece.

Bravo :applause:

[SirManfred]

Really cool stuff :)
I love the cell-shading.

I thought it was a 2d painting first but when i saw the wireframe, that obviously prooved me wrong :)

Keep it up, dude

[facial]

Wow,..Here are so many comments already. Thank you guys:beer:

Hey, HapZungLam, Nice to see u again here, and Thank u for you follows my post. I am testing some things about this style so far and many things needs be lock down before i do final one. They are looks good so far.

dobermunk. Nice to see u again and I will send to u email later.

sanhueza, I agree with you, and i will keep the camera movement as subtle as possible.

Emiliano, Thank u, you are right, i made a short story with several elments, Chinese girls, yard, pond, water, wter lily, cyprinoid.ect.
It is not long, I just want to show you a world, a really dreamily world.
:beer: :beer:

[Faraguay]

Hey facial! I saw your work early this morning and I've been thinking about your style all the day here it's 3:00 am... It's an incredibly original idea but you already know that because everybody has told you the same. About sending it to Siggraph... I think it is a must for you and your excelent work.

Keep your nice style up!

[facial]

Hey, Faraguay, Thank you for your comments, you gives me more confidence here. :beer:
Your time is so late, take care. :)

[zaki7]

yo facial! your work is very impressive, you have your style, good style, continue in this way.

[Sniv]

Hey facial, really great work, I like your style, is very impressive :wip:


See you on CGtalk........

Sniv

[Kryptochan]

Face, your stuff is amazing! About your thoughts of its strange style, no man not strange unique! I ve never seen a work done in your style before! Definately enter it to siggraph, if you do my money is i'll be seeing it on the screen in San Diego. You should have 5 stars man, 5 stars.

[rastapopoulos]

Excellent, i love it :applause:

[.tenic.]

i realy like ur work... keep it up...
what can i say... i love the style... :thumbsup:

[chrom]

hey very cool and original

:buttrock:


greets

chrom

[reaver]

Hi Facial.

Thats some nice stuff there, very original, I don't think I've seen that sort of CG style before.

Keep it up:)

Cheers.

Nick.

[blasphemy3_d]

Hi Facial

Well i´ve been reading the posts and I want to tell you that this work looks great. I can´t wait to see the entire movie of your nice render.

The idea is great and the execution too.

First time I saw I thought it was a painting

Great job Facial, please post the entire animation when it´s ready:buttrock:

[cheny cg]

So great!Facial£¡
I've never seen a CG work like this style.I have draw some PAINTING OF CHINESE,but never tried do it as a CG.
It is a creative work£¡
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[PsychedelicMind]

One word : Woooooow!

I seriously thought the first picture was a photograph of a chinese painting! Then I saw your wire frames & 3D models! Then I fell off my chair! That's reaaaal cool 3D man! Arg! Impressive stuff! I just love that camera-rotation around the lotus flower too! Gosh! >tries to get up from the ground but falls back< :bowdown:

this is really crazy man! Sure hope we can see somemore animation soon! :D :drool:

[killercrystal]

ive tried doing a 3D piece once & watched many people do it but i was really surprized when i saw it was 3D, definatly original i've never seen anyone do that before. besides i love that style of art, i really like it send me a link when its animate if u can. :airguitar keep rockin w/ it

[Dragon]

wow...very nice stuff!! I really like the watercolor feel you got.
Keep up the good work :).

Take care,

[Apipe]

wooooooow
impressive work...great shading networks
wanna send to Siggraph? great idea...hope u get a Award.
actually if u have a great story for it, u can sent to Oscar.
:thumbsup:

[designv]

:bounce:
Man , you got a really unique way to use the MAYA shader !!!

Looking forward to the final results !!!

(wonder how it would look like if you use the same way to
model and render one of the old Chinese emperor paintings , it must be very interesting too ^^ )






:p

[facial]

Thank you for your comments. I am very appreciate it :scream:

:beer:

[Mike Ren]

my reversion why lost??
good job . up up!!!

[BiTMAP]

I had a good idea for a kool short 3d that would feel dirty and drawn... now i'm VERY Interested in how to go about making a shader... I've also got to finish learning at least 1 3d package...

[Hairball]

Very, very nice man. I'm specially impressed that you didn't use any textures and it's solely based on shader and geometry. Also, the animated version looks like it's gonna work great. Keep up the good work!!:thumbsup:

[tubby]

that is beautiful work facial! wow, i saw the animated gif you posted on page 9 and I loved it! do you have any more to show? i can't wait to see your progress on this, keep up the awesome work!:)

[fr3drik]

This looks great. It's so nice to see this kind of work that doesn't look like "mainstream 3D". You've got a really wonderful concept going on there. Looking forward to see the final animation!

Don't even think about not sending this to SIGGRAPH! You HAVE to send it in!

:thumbsup:

[noorlander]

yeah I too looking forward to the animation!

[beastlogic]

really great!

I like it very much!

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[danbran]

Had no idea you used maya for this! Thought it was totally 2D! Great work, very refreshing to see among all the hyperreal work out there.

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[jacky liu]

¸ß!!!

[killcat]

Hope to see the film made in this kind of technology, do you have this plan recently? :bounce: :thumbsup: :applause:

[rikimountain]

great... animate it!!! now!!!! pleeeaaassseee!!!!
:buttrock:

[facial]

Thanks for your nice comments here, and every one who always follow my thread, and i am really appreciate it......:beer: :beer:
killcat, rikimountain, i am working on the step set up for this short film, i'v lock down storyboard, story reel and layout, This story reel has about 3 minutes for now...
I will keep to work hard for it :D
Thank you again :beer:

[Dargon]

Hey - great work, it has real potential...

I was going through all the old posts - the link to see your animation is no longer valid... can you post it again? I am doing a simillar technique, and I want to see how you handled it in motion...

[feerik]

Facial>>>> I'm absolutly fan:rolleyes: relaxing

[rikimountain]

is there any tutorial for 3dsmax for that kind of effect??? would be great ....
man.. i adore your art!
:airguitar
:buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

[facial]

Hi,Dargon, feerik, rikimountain. thank you for you love my work. And I did this work somes mouthes ago, It would happy to be see agian by you guys. i will post that rough animation clips here

http://www.3dwing.com/attachments/200212/16183133-waterlily.gif

have fun.

Well , rikimountain, I like to let you know if i write out tutorial about this style. ^____^

:beer:

[Satan]

¹§Ï²¹§Ï²!!!!

[ludubi]

bigness!good!!!!!:applause:

[alfred_ding]

nice:thumbsup:

[PotatoHead]

Originally posted by Satan
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yea, i totally agree, §$³²%§$³~°^^%%/²³³²!! ;)

kickass animation, facial!:buttrock:

[coolhillstone]

looking forward ur animation works!
It's really a very valuable research of Chinese style CG£¡
Good works. Go on.

[PotatoHead]

yep, chinese art rules!!!!:beer: :buttrock: you guys are awesome!

[yakaco]

good :bounce: :bounce:

[Book]

Terrific!!! Are you going to share your secret work method?:)

[lmc]

Tutorial ......if u would like to share this with us...:p

[tinitus]

a completly new way of using 3d!

[Aose]

:beer:

ÁªÏµÎÒ£ºlanwen1978@21cn.com

[rikimountain]

i asked before and i do it again: could you PLEASE write a TUTORIAL for us?? pleeeeaaaasseeee!!!!

[facial]

Hey, guys:)
See more still images about this style please go to
http://www.renderaid.com/stillsGalleryBrowse.aspx?uid=1060
That girl who is the main character in my short film.

See more test animation about this style please go to
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=586523#post586523

Thank you guys.
:beer:

[dobermunk]

Facial, you scare me.
Those are great!

[t r u n x z]

luv the traditional look...
animating would be sweet

[I-NetGraFX]

Keep up your great work!

I've seen your gallery on renderaid.com.
First i thought it's just a 2D-painting,
then I realized the method you use ...

... Good to see something else IMHO

[maydream]

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[Scienide]

Nice as still. Waiting for the animation.
Great work!
Greetings..

[facial]

I-NetGraFX, Thank you,

maydream, IDMT »¹ÔÚ°¡£¡£º£©ºÃºÃµÄ£¡

Scienide, There is a short film already, please check here,
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=116630

Well,thanks a lot guys, still got reply here although this is a old thread, i really appricate about this.:cry:

:beer:

[kausss]

I'd really like to see this animated...;)

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