View Full Version : Do AMD64 (s939) have some sort of HyperThreading?
CHRiTTeR 01-27-2005, 08:18 AM I'm a max + brazil (rio) user and I know there's an option in Brazil to enable HyperThreading support and I heared it can boost your system's rendering-performance really good.
Now my questions to you guys are:
- does my AMD have hyperthreading and if so, how do they call it?
- Is it compatible with intel's hyperthreading?
Or is Hyperthreading some sort of super-patented thing by intel in a way that AMD can't implement it (even if they make a few changes). :(
Thnaks,
CHRiTTeR
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Nope, they haven't. Hyperthreading is an Intel only thing.
Cheers
Srek
singularity2006
01-27-2005, 09:06 AM
isn't HyperTransport something similar??... correct me if i'm wrong though, I'm a 32bit kind of guy. =) (go barton 3000!!)
loop29
01-27-2005, 09:17 AM
No, HyperTransport is the interconnection between a bunch of Opterons or Athlon 64īs to the northbridge. More a data bus it is than the SMP-like behaviour of Intel HT processors.
regards
azloha
01-27-2005, 06:57 PM
hm.
the 64 bit support up to 4G of ram, i guessed u mean dual channel. the athlon CPU now supports dual channel in ram. this allows the data from CPU go through the two ram, which means evenly sharing the workload between the two ram. the dual channel ram must run with two ram installed.
it is not any kind of dual core, nor any kind of hyperthreading.......
:thumbsup:
search the post here about athlon 64 bit CPU here. more detail about the differences between the intel and amd CPU.
CHRiTTeR
01-27-2005, 07:52 PM
Ok, thanks all=
That's all I needed to know :) (y)
wrench000
01-27-2005, 08:12 PM
Actually Hyperthreading is not only intel thing. SUN and IBM will use Hyperthreading as well.
imashination
01-27-2005, 10:24 PM
Actually Hyperthreading is not only intel thing. SUN and IBM will use Hyperthreading as well.
Can you provide a link to back this up?
TraceR
01-28-2005, 12:36 AM
Yea, Isn't HyperTransport the same thing? I just ordered an AMD 64 3500 today. :D
Shogmaster
01-28-2005, 12:57 AM
As pointed out already, Hyper transport is the bus connection between the CPU and the Northbridge. Nothing to do with multi threading.
AMD's answer to HT will be actual dual core in a CPU package. 3Q of this year, we will see A64 proc with 2 cores. Should be more effective than HT, but then again, a P4 with dual core and HT will be out in about the same time.
spirogyro
01-28-2005, 01:57 AM
so then which you say is more powerful? The P4 3.4ghz HT or an Athlon 64 3500+??
azloha
01-28-2005, 03:13 AM
quite a number of tests had been done, the outcome is not that surprising, amd beat the intel. the 64 bit actually out perform the hyperthreading.
also, hyperthreading comes from the concept of multi core. hyperthreading is a technology my intel, simulating a dual CPU performance with one CPU.
any know the price a amd 64 bit dual core would be? i cant imagine......
novadude
01-28-2005, 03:36 AM
Hyperthreading is merely Intel's way to feed extra bits of information through the P4's stretched pipeline. It is really just a hard coded instruction set telling the CPU to take bits of other calculations through at the same time it is trying to do another, making up for its extreme inefficiency.
Actually Hyperthreading is not only intel thing. SUN and IBM will use Hyperthreading as well.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20030821-2698.html
I remember finding somewhere, also on ars I believe, something mentioning that HyperThreading isn't exactly new either :P Granted the P4 was the first to bring it to the desktop. I'll have to see if i can find that article
prixat
01-29-2005, 01:05 AM
It seems AMD have gone for getting data 'through the door faster' to the processor and having fewer unused clock cycles.
While Intel have gone for slow data 'through the door' and some more 'through the window' to their larger number of unused cycles.
much of a muchness!!
If I was in the market I would get a real multiprocessor system. (Hmmm AMD or Intel?)
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