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eworc
01-27-2005, 03:30 AM
My Cinema 4D Studio version will not start up for some odd reason. It was working the other day. It shows up under processes in task manager, but does nothing. Not using any cpu cycles, just memory. Windows XP. Anybody have this happen before? Don't want to have to reinstall if not necessary.

lcf
01-27-2005, 03:52 AM
I have had problems with starting C4D R9 (demo) only once - on some old machine on univ. (486 or pentium with 64 MB RAM (or even less), old gfx card (Cirrus Logic or something like that) and Windows98). if you don't have anything like that, then it could be a virus - check your OS for this.

eworc
01-27-2005, 03:53 AM
Now my Vue 5 doesn't work. It start but hangs. My other programs work fine, office, Visual Studio, etc. Is there a 3D software only virus going around? ha ha. Oh well, time to wipe and reload.

eworc
01-27-2005, 03:55 AM
Icf,

I have a Avaretec 2200+ notebook. It has 512 MB ram and ran this stuff fine before, will check for a virus. Thanks.

lcf
01-27-2005, 04:16 AM
1) lcf, not Icf :]
2) if you are overclocking your systems, you may have some hang-ups, too (use Prime95 torture test for cpu/mem testing and any 3DMark (eg, 2001SE - faster download than 2003 or 2005) for gfx card testing under continous heavy load.
3) if you was playing with services and gfx drivers too much, it is possible that your gfx subsystem is irreversible broken, too - reinstalling whole OS + drivers could be fastest way to make it work again (btw. good way to make it fast is using Norton Ghost (*GOOD* tool) for making backup image of your OS partition just after you have installed OS (+updates+drivers+your must-have tools) and then recover whole thing in few minutes, if your sys will ever broke).

Hilt
01-27-2005, 05:03 AM
Have you installed SP2 on your computer? (supposing you have XP).
I've seen mentions that Maya and some editing apps hang after installing it.
It has something to do with the useage of memory in SP2.

.hilt

lcf
01-27-2005, 05:49 AM
R9 shouldn't have any problems with XP+SP2 (I am using SP1 (bit faster than SP2, few programs&drivers DOES have problems with SP2), but have tested with SP2, too and all was ok). you can try disabling DEP (Data Execution Prevention, more on this and other changes in memory managment in SP2 here (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/sp2mempr.mspx)) in System Prosperities, but I think that you rather need clean system install :].

n0rac
01-27-2005, 06:24 AM
I have R9 as well, but it's the student edition...and the only time it has done this to me is when I used a reg cleaner, or deleted zero length files. Not sure if thats the problem...but thats my 2 cents.

Hope it works out for you.

rendermania
01-27-2005, 01:26 PM
Now my Vue 5 doesn't work. It start but hangs. My other programs work fine, office, Visual Studio, etc. Is there a 3D software only virus going around? ha ha. Oh well, time to wipe and reload.

Its very, very rare that viruses mess up actual applications. This sort of thing can be caused by some adware/spyware which is messily coded and interferes with certain software running on your system. Do a cleansweep with Spybot S&D and maybe the Microsoft Antispyware beta as well. The MS prog has a neat feature under 'Advanced Tools' where it will actully show you running processes with the full name of the software next to it. May be one way to find garbage processes from adware and so on. Be aware that its Beta though. It works ok for me so far, but some of the UI menus are still a bit rough edged.

More likely, something had corrupted your system's OpenGL gfx/drivers, in which case downloading the latest driver version and reinstalling the driver in Win XP safe mode can help.

Be very careful with things like system/graphics tuning utilities. They can make a complete mess of your settings, including so called modem/connection optimizers.

One more thing to try - create a new user account in XP, with a clean desktop etc, kick out any unnecessary software that's set to run at startup and try running your 3D apps again. If your graphics chip has a control panel (ATI/Nvidia), try setting things like OpenGL and DirectX settings back to factory defaults. A small setting that's set wrong can sometimes throw 3D software off completely.

imashination
01-27-2005, 01:49 PM
I have R9 as well, but it's the student edition...and the only time it has done this to me is when I used a reg cleaner, or deleted zero length files. Not sure if thats the problem...but thats my 2 cents.

Hope it works out for you.

Deleteing zero length files is NEVER a good idea, many many programs use blank files as markers and so on, if you delete these then all sorts of things can happen. Off the top of my head, I can think of a couple which c4d uses, so, don't delete them ;-)

eworc
01-27-2005, 05:47 PM
Thanks all for the input. I have the microsft beta spyware, pretty nice and AVG antivirus. It has SP2 in the OS from install. I must have deleted something or maybe the spyware removed something in the registry that it shouldn't have and I was paying attention to the prompts. It will take longer for me to troubleshoot than it would be to just reinstall everything back on my laptop. I am going to invest in symantec Ghost so that I can get a good image that I can just replace at will when things go haywire.

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