wings 3d

[MunCHeR]

why not grow a brain....troll

[gruvsyco]

Well, for starters I can think of point to point modeling and spline modeling techniques. Booleans could be another reason. Open meshes (not sure exactly why this would be good but I understand wings can't do them). That's just from my limited knowledge of both apps (of which I like).

[durbdk]

I think it's really sad when someone makes a blankett statement like that and feels justified. Have you ever used Modo? I have, and I started out in modelling with wings, and I can tell you there is no comparison. For it's price I feel it's already amoungst the best modellers and destined to become better. As for wings, yes it is a good program, but not as full featured.
One thing I don't get is, I noticed you use Z-brush and Maya in your work. I don't understand the difference between spending over 2000 dollars on those two as opposed to getting Modo? Is it because modo is "only" a modeller currently? Do you not like the company? Did Brad piss you off? Please, qualify your rant!

Otherwise people are gonna think your a crazy old coot sitting in a cabin playing
with his toes

A brain is a terrible thing to waste...so don't.

[lovisx]

I used modo a bit and failed to see what it offered that really set it apart from a modeler like Wings. I'm just starting to learn wings, and the more of a chance I give it the more I'm falling in love with it. It's two or three downfalls are totally made up by the fact that it's FREE! The face that it keeps

I also fail to see the reason for spending so much money on Modo for a couple of tools. I guess what I'd like to hear is what tools people obsolutely need that they pay 500 dollars for them. And the time I spent with modo was riddled with bugs and errors from viewport to mirroring. To be able to install wings and learn everything about it and not have one error was ectasy. I'm going overboard.

modo advantages I know of
working in sub-d and modeling, doesn't work as well in wings, so what, at least it doesn't crash.

working on one side of the head and keeping symetry without mirroring, one extra step not worth $500

ability to mix up the viewports and menus. Wings is totally custamizable in every way, and is very open, and it's free.

one thing I like about modo was that you could scale from a component normal,
totally possible in wings, and very easy to do.

Wings doesn't let you have open mesh, but this is a great advantage once you learn to use it. This certainly is a downfall though in some cases.

Modo has no smooth paint for the mesh, neither does wings, so what.

wings and modo both have soft selection.

so what is it that makes modo that much better.
and if you want an open mesh, why don't you use silo

so someone please tell me, why not use wings instead of paying 500 for modo

[JIII]

Blah well it's actually 695 right now, and offically 895 or something lol So first check that out. Modo is a fast responsive scriptable modeller that runs fine on my Powermac. One reason that I would and did choose modo, granted I paid 99 bucks for educational not 695 but I won't make any money off of modo, is that it is fast and responsive on my system which sadly is not a dual 2/3 gig beast. It's very fast very responsive and very easy to use granted I don't know all the features yet but the possibilities of it with it's scripting and macros are simply amazing. Wings just isn't as fast for me. Also like md_me sadie always says over and over again in the c4d forum, why bitch about prices if you're good enough the first job you use it on will more than pay back the price of the software. I choose a cheaper educational version because I obviously am not going to make any money in 3D probably ever.

[Nando]

why not use:

Max, Mirai, XSI, Nendo, Maya, blender, Strata, Zbrush, Animation Master, EI, Truespace, Cinema 4D, Carrara, Houdini, Form-Z, Organica, Pixels 3D, Realsoft 3D, Rhino, Shade, Silo, Anim8or, clay, poly power, Aztec, hamaPatch, gmax, Metasequoia, MilkShape 3D, Moray, sPatch, Voxel3D, hyper cub3, Liquid pixels.

Or,

"why do you use"

Max, Mirai, XSI, Nendo, Maya, blender, Strata, Zbrush, Animation Master, EI, Truespace, Cinema 4D, Carrara, Houdini, Form-Z, Organica, Pixels 3D, Realsoft 3D, Rhino, Shade, Silo, Anim8or, clay, poly power, Aztec, hamaPatch, gmax, Metasequoia, MilkShape 3D, Moray, sPatch, Voxel3D, hyper cub3, Liquid pixels.

Your answer if one does come to mind usually fits the answer of the other ppl...

SO by the power of my text on this message board, I now deem the great question of WHY do we use X=3D app closed on this and all message boards future and past.

Tell everyone when they ask you, "why you use X 3D app" and answer " the same reason you use your X 3D app".

Spread the word on all forums, run.. run.. tell em.......tell em!.!!.! all.....!!!.!!.!

or, It Just feels right... ;)

[pnoland]

I've tried Wings for a while before I came across Modo and Silo...blech. It's all about personal preference bud, that's why people use Modo and not Wings. Wings isn't a bad program, it just doesn't work well for everybody so it's no use preaching it...we all know it's available and free.

[c-g]

I guess what I'd like to hear is what tools people obsolutely need that they pay 500 dollars for them.

Why? Sounds like you made up your mind. The better question would be why you felt the need to jump in here and start a thread like this.


And the time I spent with modo was riddled with bugs and errors from viewport to mirroring.

Must have been a bad crack.

[bri]

Must have been a bad crack.


Best answer yet :)

[ThomasMahler]

Bash-o-Rama. Could someone close this thread?

[lovisx]

wow, everyone is all prickly all of a sudden because I can't figure out why modo is worth the price.

So you like it because personal preference, big deal. I could have guessed that. Perhaps you share to describe what ketches your fancy and causes you to perfer Modo.

It would be kind of interesting to see how people have used macros and scripting to better their modeling. Don't get mad with this statement. It's valid, I'd really like to see, I think the results would be interesting. Please post. This is something that perhaps would make it worth the price. But I'm not a scripter and therefore never looked into this side of it.

What I can't understand is how people can post something that doesn't answer my question at all, but just tries to shut it down as if it were some awful taboo. The forums are for asking questions and getting answers not for calling people idiots because the have an opinion that is very different then your own.

i'm not preaching i'm debating, and it is free by the way:thumbsup:

[Phil Lawson]

I bought it because I could afford it.

As far as macros go, for hard edge modelling, they are very handy. If you've watched the modo football tutorial on www.luxology.com (http://www.luxology.com/) you should be able to get an idea of just how handy this feature is. Panneling on a spaceship for example can all be macro'd to 1 button...beats the hell of having to go and run 300 bevel commands. :)

I think if you worded your first post better, people might not have jumped to the idea of you trolling the board.

Anyway, as I said, if you havent already, check out the videos on Luxology.com and the 1.02 vids. You can come to your own conclusions then.

If you like Wings 3D, stick with it...I wasnt too fused on it, I like modo, I'll stick with it.

Cheers.

[pnoland]

So you like it because personal preference, big deal. I could have guessed that. Good, so you know that it really is pointless for you to make new threads like this one. ...I use Modo because the fall offs are tastey, edge loop and general selection is awesome with Modo, layers, and one of the best bevel tools I've come across. Also, if you wanted to have a serious discussion from the begining you would have made your initial post longer then one sentence...it just came across like you wanted to start a flame war on the subject not discuss it.

This thread -should- be closed. ...er, that's a suggestion not a demand mods. ;)

[gruvsyco]

What I can't understand is how people can post something that doesn't answer my question at all, but just tries to shut it down as if it were some awful taboo. The forums are for asking questions and getting answers not for calling people idiots because the have an opinion that is very different then your own.

I actually tried seriously to answer your question above, you picked one item from what I said and denied it's usefulness. Alot of the people that I'm familiar with, that are moving over to Modo, model point to point or detail out. There is a video on Lux's site that shows that. To the best of my knowledge, you can not model taht way in Wings at all. Another method of modeling available in modo is Spline modeling. Again, something not available in Wings. I like Wings alot for doing small simple things but I'll also add that in my experience, it bogs down really bad once you get a large number of polygons going in a model. I haven't tried in any recent versions but back around .18-.20 this was the case.

[hrgiger]

Some people need to pull their underwear out of their crack. Way out. Sometimes I'm curious myself as to why someone would pay a certain amount of money for one app when they can buy another app that does almost the same thing. I'm not referring to Modo/wings though. Never used either.


I'm just trolling in here becuase I was trying to find a few things out about Modo. I was watching one of the demo videos on Lux and it said something about a license notification. Is that only on the ed version or do all versions have limited time licenses before you have to renew it?

[Nando]

Intially I got a temp lic, becuase Modo hadnt started shipping in material form.
Now I have permanent lic and it did not get affected when I updated Modo and there is no time out.

But I think what you read is more related to student version since it is a 1 year term from what I remember reading.