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ScottageCheese
01-24-2005, 07:31 PM
Hey all... I'm totally down for this. Mine will be a team effort, because I work with some very talented peeps.... and they can do a lot that I can't!

My plan is to start with an establishing shot of the volcano already erupted.... way outside of the city.

then cut to the city

and then 1 or 2 shots of lava flowing in the city streets...

Lots of color correction and sky replacement, I'm sure. This is a great topic! Can't wait

I'll have something to post soon.

ScottageCheese
01-24-2005, 10:02 PM
Ok so here's a first concept composite... a shot of downtown on a cloudy day... which is good cuz my sky will be black anyways.

Small chunks of fire and flaming rock will fall from the sky, nothing too "Armageddon"ish or anything, like... large snowballs... and when they impact it will just be a big burst of orange debris, very "spark" like looking....

http://www.scottagecheese.com/images/fxwars/fireball_concept.jpg

Nothing will be flying up in the air on fire, or cars flipping or anything, its just, fire rain....

balistic
01-25-2005, 04:05 AM
Posting to say that I'm gonna try to help out by providing a couple matte paintings for this one.

Volcanos are totally badical, IMHO.

EvilE
01-25-2005, 12:19 PM
Looking quite nice so far :)

Sven

Harold Fraga
01-25-2005, 02:12 PM
TEAM LAVA wooHoo!!! (cheering dance) j/k...

Anyhow, yeah count me in guys. I still have to go over some footage myself and choose a proper shot the will fit well with the entire edit.


Peace!

EvilE
01-25-2005, 02:15 PM
Goddamit maybe i should get a camera for myself . Having to use the footage someone else supplies is not the best thing :/

Sven

ScottageCheese
01-25-2005, 04:54 PM
EvilE, that was the first thing that got my attention. A friend of ours has filmed every major city from a helicopter. And he's letting us use it for this FXwars.

So, some will be stills, some will be film.

I'll post my plates when we get them off of Digibeta and into MOV format. I need to get those out asap so I can hand them to Balistic and Harold...

hahah Team Lava cheer...

"Who's that Spartan that's Mt. Fugi?! IT'S ME, IT'S ME!" (haha sorry, have to be a Will Ferrel fan to get that one)

mojodesign
01-26-2005, 02:28 PM
Nice. Hey Scott, need help? I can slap a big ol' cartoon on the BG....

....yeah, you're right, probably wouldn't work out.

Well, if you guys need to light someone on fire and film him, just let me know. I'll keep an eye on this thread. It's looking pretty cool.

-J

ScottageCheese
01-27-2005, 03:25 AM
http://www.scottagecheese.com/images/fxwars/test_002.jpg

Divx
About 500k

http://www.scottagecheese.com/images/fxwars/test_002.avi

OK so heres "my rough" animatic. Just a rough idea of the mood i'm going for.

The particle passes need much more work... and theres no masking going on...
Going to replace trees and add some more movement in the city. Maybe a banner hanging, or a flag somewhere....

more to come...

balistic
01-27-2005, 04:57 AM
haha, for an animatic that's pretty sweet dude. I love what you did with the sky.

You inspired me to do a little sound design (any excuse to make explodey sounds):

http://www.bprince.com/FXCinderBombA1.mp3
http://www.bprince.com/FXCinderBombs.mp3

Obviously we'd need some car alarms and screaming and whatnot tool, if we even want to have sound.

-Vormav-
01-27-2005, 08:08 AM
Wow... I'd be completely owned if I tried this one. http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
Love the look so far.

jussing
01-27-2005, 09:32 AM
Yea, for an rough animatic that's totally sweet. :D

I think the debris needs big impact clouds or something, when they hit the ground.

Cheers,
- Jonas

ScottageCheese
01-27-2005, 12:50 PM
Mojo - trust me dude, if I could find room in this project for something cartoony, I'd call ya... trust me, I'm always looking for room for you to draw something for me, holmes. Like modeling some of your characters.

Balistic - Hahaha sweet yeah, even when I'm compositing, I'm like that little kid we talked aboutm making the sound effects as I work. Why do we do that as humans? Sweet audio, yeah, people screaming, maybe ambulence or police car siren in the distance.... lots of wind

Vormav - I used to say the same thing to myself, about other challenges here. But I realized it motivates me a lot to do something, I work as a Lighter, but I've always had a love for Live Action Compositing. You should give this a shot, seriously... This is my first time posting on CGTalk

Jussing - Yeah man, I want a big ploom of ash, like on the building tops, when they hit... again I'm not going for the "Armageddon" look, with all this destruction going on. I just want it to look like its raining fire, and small rock chunks...

thanks again for the comments and feedback guys... I really appreciate it. Maybe by the end of the weekend I'll have something badass to post.

mojodesign
01-27-2005, 01:53 PM
That's kick'n ass guys. I played the avi at the same time as Brian's audio clip and it made all the difference. You really sense the danger. I love the handheld feel of the video too....it only adds to it.

mattswilson
01-27-2005, 03:03 PM
sweet bro-logna!

ash would be "very nizzz", like a light layer thats already on the caz(that's boston talk for those of you that dont speak a foreign language) and the flat-ER surfaces that poof out when thay get bombed. ones gotta take out a light pole too. Killer job comping btw! great previz of the atmoisphere.. this is going to look badazz.

Socr8s
01-27-2005, 08:23 PM
It's pretty kickass :buttrock:

I agree with matt's idear about the ash but it might look cool if it was snowing ash.

aracid
02-01-2005, 02:36 PM
hey ScottageCheese

thats gonna look really great.

setting the standards hi :-)

all the best

ScottageCheese
02-01-2005, 05:25 PM
Here is a simple breakdown of the elements I needed to pull this shot off. Since it was a still I was working with, I wanted to add a few elements to give it more life.


http://www.scottagecheese.com/images/fxwars/breakdown_01.jpg

the sky is a photo of a sunset, inverted, with a lot of painting added.

The banner is just a cloth sim with some wind on it.

I used the same render for both trees. Theres a tree on the left and right, swaying in the wind.

and the traffic lights were just painted in Photoshop and animated thier opacity in Shake.

I removed the volcano elements for now, just worried about the mood and movement of the comp.... here's an update...


http://www.scottagecheese.com/images/fxwars/test_003.avi


Thanks for the comments and crits so far, keep em coming...

mojodesign
02-01-2005, 05:49 PM
oooh that looks scary. I love the swaying banner. Keep it up.

chrisJ
02-01-2005, 06:04 PM
One Man Star Wars banner is KICK ASS! If anyone out there has a chance to see him, DO IT!
http://onemanstarwars.com/one_man_star_wars1.html

balistic
02-01-2005, 08:29 PM
haha, I didn't realize that's what the banner was for. Nice.

RobertoOrtiz
02-02-2005, 03:28 PM
If you have the time, one thing I strongly suggest is to have ash raining down on the street.

Check out this footage of snow falling on downtown DC.

http://66.242.144.2/fxwars/movie.wmv

Hopefully you can use this as reference of particles falling on a downtown area.

-R

ScottageCheese
02-03-2005, 03:07 PM
Shot 001 of my 3 part seq. The establishing shot of the volcano.

This is some footage from Stone Mountain in Georgia shot on film. Donated by a friend Herb Kossover.


http://www.scottagecheese.com/images/fxwars/stoneMT.avi


Balistic offered to do a matte painting for this shot. He'll paint a volcano over the mountain... and we will do all the tracking in shake, and FX in Maya, hopefully it will be seamless....


http://www.scottagecheese.com/images/fxwars/stoneMT.jpg

mojodesign
02-25-2005, 06:02 PM
....? Hey Sky, no updates on this shot yet?

ScottageCheese
02-25-2005, 09:03 PM
Ha, nope, might need to drop out of this... moving apartments, work, freelance, other projects... just too much, not enough time...

I might continue this on my own time, after the challenge is over.... I'm upset I wont be able to submit a final in time...

RobertoOrtiz
02-25-2005, 09:09 PM
Post what you have so far.


Honestly that single shot should be more than enough for you to get in.

-R

balistic
02-26-2005, 05:08 AM
Posting to agree with Roberto.

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