CgTalk Daily Sketch 226: MATTE WARS 002: The Shipwreck

[BAJAMAN]

Took a break from studying and produced my very first "Daily Sketch".

It isn't much, but what do you expect from a first-timer :shrug:

20mins. Photoshop, Wacom...

http://users.telenet.be/bajaman/mattewars.jpg

[DoInferno]

Ok! I allready understood what a matte painting is. I participate at the last war and all. But still there is something i don´t get...

What is a "VFX painting for a movie" suposed to be? What is this "VFX" Expression meaning?

Thanks for the answer (if someone answer... Hehe...)!

[balistic]

Roberto, is the sharpening of these images something your camera did when you took the pictures, or something you're doing before you post them? It gave me some trouble on the previous one, as it's a little hard to match with a filter. If it's burned into the image, there's nothing you can do, but if it's possible to post an unsharpened version, that'd be preferable for most people, I think.

DoInferno: VFX is a pseudo-abbreviation for "Visual Effects". It means the same thing as Special Effects.

[Schattenman]

salut. here is mine. 2 hours; terragen, web reference image for the wreck, PS
http://www.heuschele.com/jan/zeug/sh2.jpg

[robinayles]

Schattenman - That is SWEET! Really nice job!:thumbsup:

[DoInferno]

Thanks a lot, balistic!

[coCoKNIght]

Can we post source files in the topic suggestion forum?

[Garma]

I hope this doesn't look too cheap.. I really like black and white (especially in photography) but in CG it's easily mistaken for an easy way to get rid of lighting differences in the source files... that's not my intention

I'm not too satisfied with this one. I had problems fitting the source file in, I can see Schattenman had the same problems (erased almost the complete image lol). You used terragen? Very nice!

1.5 H | PS

http://csr.oli.tudelft.nl/huizen/hg/tdg/226_mw2_theshipwreck.jpg

[Art2]

Great job guys!
I like the B&W look Garma, just like an old photograph.

Think I'm going to play around with that .mov

[eirenicon]

DoInferno: VFX is a pseudo-abbreviation for "Visual Effects". It means the same thing as Special Effects.

In my understanding VFX applies to virtual/digital effects, and SFX applies to real-world effects (like props, wire work, etc). Guess they could be the same thing, though.

Roberto - the .mov file has a bit of a glitch in the middle.

[Garma]

and SFX applies to real-world effects

SFX refers to sound effects, that's what I know for sure.. :shrug:

Art2: Thanks man, good luck with that .mov, I was wondering who would have the guts :D

[DoInferno]

Thanks yall for the answers!

Here is mine, 3 h Photoshop, others pic and a litlle painting, tones and hues changes. This matte painting stuff needs a lot of patient, wich i don´t have at the moment....

Hope you guys enjoy it!

http://www.carlosranna.com.br/cgtalk/mattewar02_shipwrech.jpg

[RobertoOrtiz]

Can we post source files in the topic suggestion forum?

Post it here:
Matte Wars Forum Topic Suggestions (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=202860)

and balistic, the images were recorded on a Canon digital camera, thus the sharpness of the final image.

-R

[tadbit]

I just realized the size problem, oh well.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v476/tad_bit/matte.jpg
20 min, Photodraw, mouse

[eirenicon]

Here's mine, I tried to be a little subtler. Sky is photo, body is painted.

http://timothyd.com/host/art/cgt_shipwreck.jpg

[mttjss]

Heres mine. ABout 30 min. Photoshop. Dont have my Wacom here. :argh:

[stunner]

A quick one, about 30 min in photoshop ...

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/7864/mattewar2.jpg

(a litle inspired by the tsunami ...)

[annisahmad]

is this thread still open? if so, im going to jump into the wagon. and if it IS open, for how long...? the remainder of the week? im sorry, i just discovered this section, and i'd like to join in...

[DoInferno]

I changed mine a bit, but don´t know wich is better... The first one, full of vivid colors and light? Or this one, less saturated and a bit darker...

You decide!

http://www.carlosranna.com.br/cgtalk/mattewar02_shipwrech_dark.jpg

[iC4]

my first matte painting ;)

program: photoshop
time: around 3 hours
reference images from google and deviantart

http://www.grafikwelt.at/stuff/matte.jpg

[fabmedia]

Well I don't know how I did, but it's my first...

[nepaligurkha]

Here is mine
About 1 hour
iC4- great job

[Indavisual]

Heres mine. 1 hour. Photoshop. 2 photos besides original. :P

[Garma]

http://www.cgtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=64027

I'm not sure what you did but that link doesn't work. That attachment should appear below your post.

[maxrelics]

I like fabmedia's the best so far. Nice work dude.

[fabmedia]

Thank MR. Much appreciated. It's my first matte painting. I want to do more, but I'm trying to make money doing graphic design work. I want to leap into film and TV, but i don't think I have what it takes.

I did you 4 additional photos, colour correction on all 5, level adjustments, then after all was done, I adjusted the colours and such again.

I think iC4's is awesome! everyone is doing good work.

[spirogyro]

well, this is my first attempt at a matte....

[danydrunk]

http://cancun-condorentals.com/mattedaniel.jpg

heres mine, my first matte painting.

What technique is the best to remove the sky from the picture? specially in the areas where the palmtrees are? I tried with the extract tool in photoshop but I didnt get the results I wanted.....

[annisahmad]

description;
about 1 hour and 10 mins between writing checks for bills...
i pretty much painted alot of the stuff (erasing the bakground including the people, buildings, and house) and painted the clouds, the planets, and overpainted the trees to give it a 'thick' forest feel. foreground, i added some foam...

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/4200/mattewar3smallerfinal7xj.jpg

[pocanman]

Hi everyone. This is a great thread. Lots of impressive matte paintings. Here's my try... done in photoshop. less than 2 hrs. :)


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/pocanman/shipwreck.jpg

[danydrunk]

description;
about 1 hour and 10 mins between writing checks for bills...
i pretty much painted alot of the stuff (erasing the bakground including the people, buildings, and house) and painted the clouds, the planets, and overpainted the trees to give it a 'thick' forest feel. foreground, i added some foam...

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/4200/mattewar3smallerfinal7xj.jpg

what do you mean with overpainted the trees to get a forest look? can you explain what you did cuz it looks forest-like just like you said

[DoInferno]

what do you mean with overpainted the trees to get a forest look? can you explain what you did cuz it looks forest-like just like you said

I think he meant to say is that he made those few trees look like a lot of them, so they look like a thick forest.

[fabmedia]

http://cancun-condorentals.com/mattedaniel.jpg

heres mine, my first matte painting.

What technique is the best to remove the sky from the picture? specially in the areas where the palmtrees are? I tried with the extract tool in photoshop but I didnt get the results I wanted.....

What you need to do is check out the CHANNELS panel. Typically the palette is right beside the LAYERS palette. Duplicate the channel (R,G, or B) that looks like it has most of the information that you want to keep. In this, I believe the trees lied in the blue channel (the darkest). Then you adjust the levels so that you have most of the sky as being white, and the trees are almost black. After you've done that, then you have to hand paint some areas to make sure that you don't end up with transparancies. What I do after than is convert that new channel into a Layer Alpha channel and make some more corrections and presto "bob's your uncle".

[danydrunk]

What you need to do is check out the CHANNELS panel. Typically the palette is right beside the LAYERS palette. Duplicate the channel (R,G, or B) that looks like it has most of the information that you want to keep. In this, I believe the trees lied in the blue channel (the darkest). Then you adjust the levels so that you have most of the sky as being white, and the trees are almost black. After you've done that, then you have to hand paint some areas to make sure that you don't end up with transparancies. What I do after than is convert that new channel into a Layer Alpha channel and make some more corrections and presto "bob's your uncle".
thanks a lot, Im trying it to see te results

[Pyke]

ABout 2 hours in Paintshop Pro (between renderings)

The shuttle comes from google, and the mountains are from my own photo library.

Also my first matt. ;)

http://www.trapgraphics.com/shit/mattwarshipwreck.jpg

I still dont know how too get away from that 'layered' look, but I'm sure with more practise i'll get better.

[[3DgUrU]]

http://www.create2d3.com/files/naguiarvfxchallenge.jpg
http://www.create2d3.com/files/properccchallenge.jpg

Had Fun :) nice challenge

[SteveNewport]

Never done a matte before, always wanted to try. Thanks for the challenge. I have no idea how long... maybe 5 hours?? Would've liked to have done more to it, but lost the original file in the process of exporting... I'm retarded
images all googled, 4 total

take care
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/stevenewport/shipwreck1.jpg

[tuzz]

Roberto, it was a great idea to plug that! So many new faces and a lot of great results. I hope to complete mine when i come back from college today ...
:thumbsup:

[nikespike]

My first post on cgtalk! :)
It took me about an hour to do this matte, using Photoshop and a mouse. The boat is from Google.

http://niklas.bostroms.net/images/mattewar3.jpg

Great work everybody!

[drewster]

Took 30 mins in Photoshop.

[Lemog]

Yeah... good topic... I like that... I must find little time to do that... I hope at midday...

The SteveNewport picture seem very real, and I like the originality and integration of the one of [3DgUrU]...

A funny topic... :thumbsup:

[neofg]

That's my submission...It's not a real Matte, 'cos if u make it in a film it must be in movement, and it's sepia... But I have only 20 min....Sorry...
Good art to all...:thumbsup:

http://www.cgtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=64050&stc=1

[annisahmad]

what do you mean with overpainted the trees to get a forest look? can you explain what you did cuz it looks forest-like just like you said


dany DoInferno tackled it...



I think he meant to say is that he made those few trees look like a lot of them, so they look like a thick forest.

[Garma]

I still dont know how too get away from that 'layered' look, but I'm sure with more practise i'll get better.

I'm not an expert myself but this is what I keep in mind usually :)

color adjustment (hue, saturation) are key concepts here. Filtering (the photo filter for example) can be helpful. be careful with filters tho. Filters give you pretty good matches but people recognise them easily. Also lighting is important, often it's best to adjust that by hand (painting, dodge tool, dark airbrush).

I think you got a pretty good match in your case but the mountains could use a little more saturation. the green doesn't match the trees very good. It's also very important not to mix images from different parts of the world since vegetations will not match. Do not mix loaf forests with trees you find in africa for example :) Think of heights, your mountain looks like it's quite high (no trees, mainly grass), you won't find that close to the shores

hope this helps :)

[Thany]

Photoshop, 3 hours and 14 minutes.

I Always wanted to do a matte painting. This is my first attempt. Could still use a bit more work, but I still like it.

http://thanian-nation.com/temp/thany_shipwreck.jpg

[Art2]

Very good job folks! Some firsttimers in mattepainting doing a pretty good job.

SteveNewport, love that one.
3DgUrU, nicely done. It would be great to take that scene from the movie and try to composite that to the .mov
danuDrunk, good job, reminds me of 'Contact"

[Zebula]

Here's my attempt: around 3.5 hours in photoshop. Took a while just trying to make it do what I wanted!!
http://www.webhosting4free.org/zebula/shipwreck_small.jpg

[stunner]

very good one Steve Newport, your light fit perfectly !!!
it's impresive ...

[Nelis]

Hi there people,

I thought why not participate in this one.....i liked the subject very much so here is my first try.

I used photoshop for it and worked on it for about 2 to 3 hours

i tried not to change the eviroment too much but a subtle change to make it feel like there was a shipwreck sometime.

greets,

Niels Sinke

http://www.sweetnonsens.com/cg/mattewar2_small.jpg

[rrobert]

That is a good one Nelis!! Great compositing :thumbsup:

[Lemog]

Hey hey Nelis... that's so good ;)



I try now...

I think quickly... and for sure, my first idea was to re-used one of the ship I maded for the actual Grand Space Opera Challenge...

I choose the OmniShip... And for the little story... It was it's return to earth... an end for sure, a bit hard...

I try to place it with help of the photo... I add one of the OmniShip Sailor (yet rigged)... and add a cable... less of 30 minutes, include the basic render in Maya... I don't want a big quality, cause I think the most important work for this micture must be in the post... in the matte...

And for the Photoshop work... 45 minutes...


After 1h15mn, there's the result of my first real matte (3200 of large) :


http://lemog.free.fr/GSO/bonus/omnimate_800.jpg (http://lemog.free.fr/GSO/bonus/omnimate_3200.jpg)


...and in bonus, the WallPaper in 1600x1200 of the "Return to Earth" :

http://lemog.free.fr/GSO/bonus/omnimate_wall1600.jpg

:D

[HellBoy]

wait a second, are you guys really posting real pictures or is that something you draw, just got hollusinated

[PeterSanitra]

heh, Lemog, i see your travelers have finaly landed:-)

[alexyork]

OK this really is the final submission :) And it included a ship this time! Lol. About 3 hours in Photoshop and combustion, with a Wacom. Various images from google or hand-painted. Thoroughly enjoyed this! Looking forward to the next one Roberto.

http://www.alexyork.co.uk/images/mattewars-02-york.jpg

Cheers

EDIT: [3DgUrU] (member.php?u=21611) I just noticed we used exactly the same ship! Good old google :)

[RobertoOrtiz]

Great entries guys!

But please dont forget to use the topic of the thread in your composition.
-R

[balistic]

description;
about 1 hour and 10 mins between writing checks for bills...
i pretty much painted alot of the stuff (erasing the bakground including the people, buildings, and house) and painted the clouds, the planets, and overpainted the trees to give it a 'thick' forest feel. foreground, i added some foam...


Hey annisahmad, try switching your moon/planet layers to "screen" or "lighten" instead of "normal" blending mode. In real life, you would never see any part of the moon as being darker than the blue sky around it . . . the way you have it makes it look like the moons are inside the atmosphere.

Check this out to see what I mean:

Image of the moon during the day (http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~arielbaz/NewYorkInPhotos/BackThereInIsrael/moon%20over%20tel%20aviv%20promenade.jpg)

It's a very common mistake in CG . . . even movies like "Pitch Black" get it wrong all the time.

[kraschtm]

http://kraschtm.free.fr/albums/trans1/mattewar2kra.JPG
2 hours searching for material
1 hour composing with photoshop

[Vizu]

50 min. Photoshop with Mouse.

Not the best but i have try it :)

http://www.vizualizer.de/have.jpg

[fabmedia]

thanks a lot, Im trying it to see te results

Danydrunk (great name!!!).... No problem. I always heard of the technique but I didn't start using it until about 6 years ago. I've been using photoshop for 10 years now, and I still don't think I'm all that great. I really need to get back into doing the art. I'm starting to get bored with graphic design. i think it's time to try to switch careers, but I don't think I can make the leap into the TV and film iindustry.

[Robertillin]

this is my work, photoshop its about 1 hour
http://img112.exs.cx/img112/5505/mattepainting6nu.jpg

[cgtalkmember]

here mine 30+ minutes on photoshop and some personal pictures :D

[cgtalkmember]

and here it is without the cave :D

[Djeo]

hi guys :) ,
This is mine:

Photoshop, 4h30, web images and painting with wacom.

http://tom.titillon.free.fr/autres/matecg1024.jpg

[Franz]

Here is mine, about 2 hours PS.

www.franzsteiner.de/pix/cgtalk/shipwreck.jpg

[Djeo]

hi guys !
Here is mine :

Photoshop, 4h, web images and painting with wacom.

http://tom.titillon.free.fr/autres/matecg1024.jpg

[annisahmad]

balistic> thanks for catching that mistake :). i dont really know the layer options in ps so i just put it as softlight... which was the closest i got to the screen :D.

so overall, about 1 hour 25 mins. once again, i overpainted the few trees to make it look like nature only, then i painted in the background and used a planet i had already made some time ago... also painted the clouds.

http://img121.exs.cx/img121/5822/mattewar4smaller3yu.jpg

[I-NetGraFX]

Hi there!

Here's my modification of Roberto Ortiz' plate.
Well, it took me about 3-4 hours ... You know, I got lost in details ;)
Parts of the sky are from a photograph (don't know where I've found this ??)
The water reflection was painted via "liquify" ...

http://www.inetgrafx.at/MATTEWARS.jpg

Daniel :arteest:

[SteveNewport]

Djeo, very nice, almost seamless integration. Be careful with the shadows of the trees on the water however. With the moon almost directly across from the viewer, you would not see the full shadow cast on the water. Matter of fact, the shadow would probably go on for eternity and all you'd see on the water is streaks of shadow and light... not realy shape or definition to them. With the shadows how they are, they would suggest that the moon was close to a 45 degree angle from trees casting light down. With the current moon setup, the shadows would cast themselves on a vertical wall only, or the viewers face, not a horizontal plane such as the water. But overall very convincing.

kraschtm, yours would be a lot more convincing if it weren't for the shadows. You could achieve a better effect if you toyd with a gaussian blur and masks... or with the smudge/blur tool and a soft light eraser. And also, look at the darkness of your shadows, they are a lot darker than say the inside of the bushes. Play with the levels to make the darks of the original picture as dark as you shadows or lighten your shadows. And don't make the edges of your shadows to blurry, as you can see the shadows of the bushes are fairly sharp. it looks pretty good other than that, nice job

[balistic]

It looks much more real now, annisahmad. Nice work :thumbsup:

[DigitalNeutrinos]

I-NetGraFX
Daniel
very nice, :applause:

[zooyorkbmxer]

i call it "enemy ship"
my frist ever matte painting (didnt even know what it was)
i dunno used kind of a night vision concept
i know it sux.. but i was just bored
http://img70.exs.cx/img70/2253/mattestuff6qz.jpg
took like 20 minutes

____
p.s. OW daniel thats awsome!!

[RhinoFreak]

This is my first daily sketch entry... I usually stick to 3d but the island on the main page caught my eye.

Done in Paintshop Pro, 2 hours

http://extremev6racing.com/TempImaging/shipwreck.jpg

[-Vormav-]

Wow, some of these are really turning out nice.
I'm hoping to try my hand at doing a video, but I don't know if it'll be done in time. I haven't done very complex compositing yet...

[liquidcrow]

Not the most realistic matte, but had to try this one aswell, photoshop, about 1 hour 30 mins :D Space and astronauts images are from http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov

http://www.uploadyourimages.com/img/225543mattewar.jpg

[annisahmad]

balistic> thansk :D . nice to see a familiar face from sijun :)

[thewave]

Photoshop, 2 hours. Thought I would go with a volcano in the BG. Wanted a small ship like the guy was out on his own fishing and got blown away. I also wanted it to look like he has been there for a while...but not long enough to build a hut or anything.
http://www.fuzionwave.biz/images/BDeanMatteShipWreck.jpg

[dan_ioan]

thanks Haunting_Shadow ... done in Photoshop http://www.romberfil.ro/mattewar1.jpg

[haunting_shadow]

how attash a file here ?????

You can't if you are a new member. Once you become a vetren, you get a small upload space on CGTalk. What most people do is use a different upload space and then put the picture in with IMG code. I use photobucket.com and you can make an account and upload pictures there, then they generate IMG code which you can just copy and paste.

[R10k]

Just plain having fun :) PhotoImpact XL, 2 or so hours.

http://img93.exs.cx/img93/1258/war20pg.jpg

[Djeo]

Thanks Steve for critics, I'll be carefull the next time ! :thumbsup:

[-Vormav-]

Managed to get a video done. Combustion 3, ~5 hours (hey, I'm new to this ;)).
Nothing too complex, just some basic compositing stuff. I don't have the time right now to add in any smoke or explosions or anything (wanted to make the mountain into a volcano, but couldn't get the particles to work quite right...), but this is my first real comp, so it's probably better that I didn't try that yet. :p
Couldn't get the trees keyed out quite right, and wasn't able to very cleanly clone out the white object that was on the right side, in the water. Oh well.

http://www.webpages.uidaho.edu/~gust4441/simplecomp.mov (http://www.webpages.uidaho.edu/%7Egust4441/simplecomp.mov)

btw, very nice job R10k. I like the approach you took.
dan_ioan - I can't help but feel that maybe your piece would work a little better if the house on the right side was either cropped or painted out. Great job on the left side though, love the dark look.

[dan_ioan]

.. I forgot to clean that house !

good job Vormav

[digitalhadz]

ok, it's my turn http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/smile.gif done in 2hrs. photoshop.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/cichlhadz/mattewar2_digitalhadz.jpg

[Serial Killer]

Time: 3:45 hours including googleing
Software: Photoshop CS
Source: 16 Images

I kow it was supose to be matte painting but I couldn't resist making a complete scene.
first time into this stuff always wanted to join the daily sketch but this is cooler :)
http://www.iespana.es/serialkiller/Matte.jpg

[digitalhadz]

@Serial Killer, hey that's cool bro. hahaha i like the octo nice done! :)

[krazed]

My first ever attempt at a matte painting :)

http://tinypic.com/1e8f35

[iC4]

there are some very nice entries, but most have nothing to do with the topic :(

[kpwproductions]

Great entries - I think a main problem a lot of people are running into is that they aren't paying enough attention to altering the color values in combination with the composited atmosphere, such as the cut out trees being too green in an atmosphere that is mainly blue or red. Also with the trees, a hazy atmosphere calls for softer edges, espcially with the fore/background mist I see being used a lot. Look outside in the morning to see what I am talking about - everything appears to have very feathered edges when surrounded by fog/mist, this effect will greatly improve many works submitted thus far.

Everyone keep up the good work, I hope to find the time to submit my own entry soon!

[liquidcrow]

I couldnt resist doin a scene aswell. I tried doin a different theme that had its share of shipwrecks, but ended up just showin the beach landing.

PS - 2 hours
WW2 images - Google

http://www.uploadyourimages.com/img/509398mattewarww2.jpg

[Flogag]

Nice works...

...but I thought the Theme is "The Shipwreck"....

I hope I can finish my work in a few hours. cya.

[R10k]

There's a theme? Whoops! I thought that was just the thread title ;)

Thanks for the kind comment, -Vormav-.

[liquidcrow]

I too apologize for not following the rules closely, apperantly my "no0bieness" got the best of me and I dint read the rules carefully, - Well now I know, rules are to be read carefully ---AA DURRRRRRR :B Sorry about that fellas.

[Flogag]

It's my first time making a Matte painting

It comes better in Dublex... hmm shure....

http://maflog.de/images/2005/mattewar2_flogag2.jpg

http://maflog.de/images/2005/mattewar2_flogag.jpg

[zek]

I have completed probably the very FIRST video in the topic shipwreck002.
Enjoy it!

http://www.uniqart.net/ZEK_shipwreck_mattewar_002_v02.zip

My very first post on cgtalk.com ever!

[fabmedia]

... they aren't paying enough attention to altering the color values in combination with the composited atmosphere, such as the cut out trees being too green in an atmosphere that is mainly blue or red. Also with the trees, a hazy atmosphere calls for softer edges, espcially with the fore/background mist I see being used a lot.


I've been noticing the same thing. It is a small oversite. It think that everyone is getting caught up in the moment. I believe though that these are supposed to be matte paintings, not artistic renders with action. I may be wrong.

Everyone is doing great work BTW.

[Aceman]

Application: Photoshop 7
By: Aceman

I focused on first removing all the elements of time.. the fense, people, light post, and house on the left. Then I added the sky, ships, shadows, reflections, etc. Using masks, etc in Photoshop. Fun project.

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/aceman_shipwreck.jpg

[littlebomb]

(http://www.laboiteareves.com/cg/MATTE%20CANYON.jpg)
Made with Photoshop in 4 hours.



http://www.laboiteareves.com/cg/MATTE%20CANYON.jpg (http://www.laboiteareves.com/cg/MATTE%20CANYON.jpg)

[pyroskat]

well, not so many time with photoshop, interesting contest. Very good and quality images!here is mine with photoshop 1 hour:

[Flogag]

Haha, what a nice idea with the UFO in the canyon...

[KevinCCAD]

about 2 and a half hours.
http://www.geocities.com/swim83mer/mpkevinccad.jpg

[liquidcrow]

Cool stuff guys, I just wanted to ask where to get (websites) pictures of pirateships or other types of wooden ships? Havent had much luck in google---

[ScottageCheese]

First time, Long time. I knew someone was going to do the UFO thing before I had a chance to finish!


About 4 hours worth of work, from Lighting the UFO to comp completion. I wouldn't even call it complete, would like to spend more time, but, eh...

I'm totally not happy with my whale semen there, washing up on the beach. A poor attempt at painting foam... haha

I also wanted more of an impact crater on the sand, but I had no idea how I was going to do that.


http://www.scottagecheese.com/images/warped/shipwreck.jpg

[annisahmad]

sxc.hu < thats a good place

[hdri]

Hello everybody: I'd like to share my small contribution to this minichallenge. I've just come home, and I could only dedicate 15 minutes to it. Anyway...
http://img52.exs.cx/img52/6024/mattechallengeantonio1ax.jpg

[mrman]

matte painting in a day? Lets be real here, there's no such thing as a one day matte. This is a fact, why don;t you change it to concept art in a day. Much more appropreate in my opinion.

[balistic]

matte painting in a day? Lets be real here, there's no such thing as a one day matte. This is a fact, why don;t you change it to concept art in a day.

Sure there is, if it only has to hold up at broadcast resolution, and you use the source plate to your advantage. Nobody's asking for 6k, 16-bit, projection-ready mattes here.

[Ecleposs]

as this was my first matte painting ever..i choosed the hardway..i did it with the video..not much really ..but i did my best to make it simple and good as i can
Done with max6 & photoshop in about 5 hours
http://www.vii-studios.com/ecleposs_preview.jpghttp://uploadyourimages.com/view/913029ecleposs_preview.jpghttp://www.uploadyourimages.com/img/913029ecleposs_preview.jpg

DOWNLOAD (right click and save as)
http://www.vii-studios.com/Ecleposs.mov 8MB

hope you like it..remember..its my first:)

[mrman]

Sure there is, if it only has to hold up at broadcast resolution, and you use the source plate to your advantage. Nobody's asking for 6k, 16-bit, projection-ready mattes here.


well not to say anything about skills of th epeople here, but I think 1 day is just not enough. Just look at the all the submitions, anyone of them look like a matte painting you can use in broadcast or film? I think the 1 day thing makes people rush with the painting and it shows.....maybe give it some more time......just my 2 cents

[balistic]

well not to say anything about skills of th epeople here, but I think 1 day is just not enough. Just look at the all the submitions, anyone of them look like a matte painting you can use in broadcast or film? I think the 1 day thing makes people rush with the painting and it shows.....maybe give it some more time......just my 2 cents

I think Ecleposs just answered your question :)

Not that I'm aguing against a longer format . . . it was initially one of my concerns as well.

[liquidcrow]

Still tryin to get the hang of matting - Photoshop 2hours 30mins -
And thanks for the website annisahmad (member.php?u=98522)

http://www.uploadyourimages.com/img/081232mattewarwreckage.jpg

[R10k]

Based on the "WHAT IS A MATTE PAINTING" blurb at the beginniung of this thread, I got the impression this challenge thingy was more aimed at people experimenting with matte painting (or trying it for the first time), and less about spending days on end creating a masterpiece.

[thewave]

Considering that this is the first one day challenge that I have ever done at CGTALK, and I have heard of matte painting, knew what it was, but had never even thought of attempting it is what made this interesting.
Sure some people had lost the sight of the project, and many of us have turned in some terrible work which would never make it into any production.

ISN'T THAT THE POINT OF BEING HERE.....to learn. The idea is what mattered. There may have been a person out there who never knew what a matte was, or anything about plates, or how they made some of those fantastical scenes we see in video and film...but now they have a better understanding and maybe one of those people was a 12 or 13 year old kid who tried it for the first time....and liked it. One day that kid might be your matte painter...or boss.

So no, this isn't all the most impressive, visually appealing work. There have been many good submissions though, and for those that lacked the experience which shows in other images, that is how they will learn....BY DOING!!!

This is a great project because it will bring people into the ideas and theory behind the craft. It does it in one day, not 6 months, where most people would lose sight of the goal otherwise. They can feel like they are doing something, creating, learning...anything. I know I did, so don't knock those who are trying until you are willing to offer some advice, constructive criticism, or something positive.

I thought that is what CGTalk was all about, a collaboration of artists with many different levels of experience showing works, asking for ideas, and motivating each other to push the envelope of what can be done through positive creative expressions and reviews...if not I must be in the wrong place.

[depleteD]

I really like the giant moons some people were adding so I decided to bandwagon it up.http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

This is my first matte ever.
4 hours photoshop.

http://people.uleth.ca/~andrew.melnychukosee/dailySketch/matteWar2Final800.jpg

[R10k]

For the record, I've learnt a ton doing my little (imperfect) piece. I only entered because I could do it in one day, and because the quality of art wasn't so amazing I didn't feel like a looser having a go. Yup, I'm with thewave ;)

[neofg]

(http://www.laboiteareves.com/cg/MATTE%20CANYON.jpg)
Made with Photoshop in 4 hours.



(http://www.laboiteareves.com/cg/MATTE%20CANYON.jpg)

Man, the your matte is the best! The ufo idea....hi hi! And a perfect realization! Good work!!!

[smurph]

okay, apologies for the dumb question but.. to submit an image I hit post reply and attach the image, right?

[NITRO3XV]

Here's my contribution to this minichallenge it took about 3 hours enjoyed every minute of it.
Cheershttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/wt4/Ship-Wreck.jpg

[Aceman]

liquidcrow (http://www.cgtalk.com/member.php?u=71400) - Got say I like your image.. nice use of Depth of Field :) Kudos.

Aceman

[fabmedia]

...but now they have a better understanding and maybe one of those people was a 12 or 13 year old kid who tried it for the first time....

So no, this isn't all the most impressive, visually appealing work. There have been many good submissions though, and for those that lacked the experience which shows in other images, that is how they will learn....BY DOING!!!

...They can feel like they are doing something, creating, learning...anything. I know I did, so don't knock those who are trying until you are willing to offer some advice, constructive criticism, or something positive.

I thought that is what CGTalk was all about, a collaboration of artists with many different levels of experience showing works, asking for ideas, and motivating each other to push the envelope of what can be done through positive creative expressions and reviews...if not I must be in the wrong place.

I fully agree. I would say generally that everyone has given a good crack at it. A few who took more than an hour and a few how took an artistic free-run. It was fun to see. I think I took it too litterally and tried to produce something that focused the beach and ultra realism, but that was my take. YES there are some errors in some pieces, but we learn from making those mistakes and having people critique them. Colour correction, blending, and finding additional images that have the same light direction as the original photo (that's a huge one), are things that come with time. That's what makes us better.

Cheers!
Arlen Nielsen
creative director

[3D Freak]

Done w/ Photoshop....Images from Google & Personal Photos...around 2.5-3 hr

http://www.pieschldesigns.com/images/JJmattewar2.jpg

[alexyork]

Done w/ Photoshop....Images from Google & Personal Photos...around 2.5-3 hrs.

www.pieschldesigns.com/public_html/images/JJmattewar2.jpg

Dead link I'm afraid.

[3D Freak]

Sorry haven't posted in a while:shrug:......please have a look now.

[theChap]

-- update: 1 hour / photoshop
I tried creating an old-70's-like-picture-effect with dirty spots :p

http://www.maartenslok.nl/sketches/mattewar2-new.jpg

[robinayles]

TheChap - I like the idea of the blotches, but they might be a bit too color saturated to look real. You might play with taking their saturation down just a notch or two, then it would be AWESOME! REally great as it is, tho!


TheWave - I agree whole-heartedly! This board is for artists of all skill levels coming together to share and learn in a supportive and non-critical environment. Its about learning and growing and trying new things as an artist. Anything that keeps the creative juices flowing and teaches new ideas and new skills for the artist is a good thing!...well unless it envolves selling your soul to the Devil...but some people like that kind of thing! :)

I'd love to spend a lot of time working on a truly masterful matte...and I might actually attempt it sometime. But I don't think I would have ever tried it if not for these "matte wars."

Roberto- maybe we can accomodate the best of both worlds? Still do the "in one day" mattes every week, but post one at the first of the month that is due by the last day of the month so people can spend more time working and tweaking it? Just a thought.

Cheers to all - and there is some AMAZING work here for only being done in 1 day!

I'd also like to take a moment to thank Roberto for keeping this going for us. What would any of us do with out you and the DSG?!? A super big thank you, Roberto!

[theChap]

Hey Robin, thanks for your suggestion! I changed a few things, made the spots merge with the image and it's better indeed! Thanks again! I also created a more retro-like feeling :)

(see the updated version 2 posts above!)

[TPG]

After an hour of photoshop, google and drawing. I had something that can be called "my first matte creation". It's a sort of old photo or film still. With an shipwreck in it's early state.

http://www.petergosens.nl/arty/shipwreck.jpg

[RobertoOrtiz]

Roberto- maybe we can accomodate the best of both worlds? Still do the "in one day" mattes every week, but post one at the first of the month that is due by the last day of the month so people can spend more time working and tweaking it? Just a thought.

Ok I am sold on your idea...

:)

-R

[brainstormingin]

http://img121.exs.cx/img121/3305/final8xp.jpg

Images from Google and some of my own snapshots.
This is my first attempt to matte painting . The quality is nothing near the desired quality as seen in movies.
Time taken : 7 hours
Software : Photoshop

[mikeVerv.]

ey guys,
this is my work hope you like it.

(2h work in photoshop)
pictures search in google

BACK TO THE FUTURE

http://members.home.nl/cahmvervloet/backtothefuture.jpg

[warmonkey]

mikeVerv. the edges of your trees still contain some of the blue from the previous sky in them you should desaturate the edges of the trees or turn them orange.... i believe if you use extract in photoshop the edges automatically become desaturated
good work everyone!

one more note i would advise everyone to try to keep better track of perspective that seems to be the most common mistake, that and the fog usually reads as pasted on instead of within the scene

[rrobert]

After an hour of photoshop, google and drawing. I had something that can be called "my first matte creation". It's a sort of old photo or film still. With an shipwreck in it's early state.

http://www.petergosens.nl/arty/shipwreck.jpg

I must say one of the best if you count the ones out who did not follow the subsciptions.. It looks very real. NICEEEE :thumbsup:

[infi]

better late than never...
~45min Photoshop 5.5
wreck from personal holiday photo

[DirtySkillet]

Finally. Composition of 3 images, in photoshop elements. Aproximatly 2 hours.

http://home.comcast.net/%7Enarobbins/Images/Matte2A_copy.jpg

[Bartosz_Milicja]

brainstormingin (http://www.cgtalk.com/member.php?u=82724), isnt that ship from Far Cry?

[stupido]

I *LOVE* this one...J.Fox...genius the way you worked him into the theme.

ey guys,
this is my work hope you like it.

(2h work in photoshop)
pictures search in google

BACK TO THE FUTURE

http://members.home.nl/cahmvervloet/backtothefuture.jpg

[gellyfish]

2 hours photoshopping... :)

http://home.wanadoo.nl/vibes/ship.jpg

[DigitalShow]

Worked on it about 3 hours in photoshop.
http://www.digitalshow.com/images/final.jpg

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