Architecture fly thru opportunity PAID

[InTheCity]

Sounds interesting, what are you offering per hour?

[Ernest Burden]

I have a client who needs a fly thru of a retail development along with a couple of beauty shots.

If you've got arcitecture stuff, and are available, we can land this gig and get paid!!! Well, there's me:
http://www.acmedigital.com/

I don't have any of my animation samples of my site AS ANIMS, just some stills from them. I do 'softer' stuff usually, meaning somewhere between photoreal and a watercolor.

I would also suggest you look at Neoscape:
http://www.neoscape.com/clients/neoscape/flash_content.html
They do great work. They did a series of films on the Boston BigDig that were spectacular.

There are a few firms in China that do amazing work. You could post the inquiry on http://www.cgarcitect.com as everyone there does architecture (though not all animation).

Do you have a sense of the costs of that sort of project? Animation can get very expensive. I guess not by Hollywood standards, but big numbers from illustrators.

[rgw3]

ITC, I don't have a feel for the budget, so I'm not sure about hourly rates. I really need someone with great architecture experience who can "partner" with me on this to get the job done. I would prefer to have that person "bid" the job out.
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To all... I haven't gotten the gig, my meeting on wednesday is to convince them that I'm right for them and get a feel for budget. They have money, but I don't know how much. They have never done this before so they will ask me what it costs. How much would you charge for one 30 second animation, and 5 hi rez stills created from a flat "unlofted" autocad plan? and how long would it take?

Also, Whoever I partner with, needs to be willing to set up a temporary Architecture page on my web server so I can show them samples from "my company". You would put your name as the artist on the images, but they need to believe that my company bendingpixels can provide this service for them so the samples I show them need to be branded with "bendingpixels". I would not use the images for any other purpose. I'm very sensitive to copyright issues.
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Ernest, your work looks very good, I see what you mean by "softer" stuff. I think they are looking for "photo real" so if you have some additional photoreal samples, and an animation or two, I'd love to hear backfrom you...

thanks

[panchopantera]

These is my architectural renderings made with cinema 4d www.infograficagdl.com (http://www.infograficagdl.com/) I haven't had a request for a flythrough so I don't have much experience with that. This is just a small test of a room made for a previous thread at cgtalk. http://www.infograficagdl.com/tempos/cgtalk/barc.mov , but I'm available if you are interested or need any help.

J.Carlos

[lllab]

well,

"I have a meeting with them on Monday or Tuesday where I need to be able to show samples of "what my company can do". If you've got arcitecture stuff, and are available, we can land this gig and get paid!!!"

>> you want to show our work under your name???


i would only do it under real cooperation, not under your companies name. we do architectural animation everyday for high end architects in austria.

what is the houry rate? we normally charge 70 euros. i have a 10cpu renderfarm and more than 10 years experience in architectural visualisation.

so please gice some more information.

cheers

lllab

[Ernest Burden]

How much would you charge for one 30 second animation, and 5 hi rez stills created from a flat "unlofted" autocad plan? and how long would it take?
The cost would depend a great deal on the complexity. And the industry standard is a flat-fee with hourly for additionals and changes. But in the US an hourly for architectural work should be around $200/hr. It reality it becomes hard to bill for all hours it REALLY takes, but sticking to the rate and 'donating' some hours is better than workin' cheap.

Will the film require people, if so will they need to be moving? Archvision's RPC is good for this, but not the only solution. Will the client be providing all info on the stores or will you have to do a lot of research on the stores and what will be in them, or have to make it all up? Either one takes time, which raises the cost.

Working from a set of CAD files is normal, so no biggie there.

Why 30 seconds? You cannot show very much in 30 seconds unless you are moving very fast--which makes for bad art.

Normally, your stills would cost about $5K as a starting point, but perhaps discounted for the others (most of the work goes into creating the first, the next ones are just render+post work). Animation is hard to cost as a ballpark, but start with a number of at least $10,000 and work up. For longer pieces you can ballpark $10K per minute, but that does not mean that 1/2 minute will be 1/2 that number. It's a good floor, don't dig down.

Ernest, your work looks very good, I see what you mean by "softer" stuff. I think they are looking for "photo real" so if you have some additional photoreal samples, and an animation or two, I'd love to hear backfrom you...
Photoreal isn't really my bag. I could do it, but so could many others. I'm working on a look that is more my own.

Also look at
http://www.artmaze.com/ they are in the SF Bay area and do great work.

And I renew my advice to post on cgarchitect.com as its a specialty site for architectural work, mostly photoreal.

[InTheCity]

These is my architectural renderings made with cinema 4d www.infograficagdl.com (http://www.infograficagdl.com/) I haven't had a request for a flythrough so I don't have much experience with that. This is just a small test of a room made for a previous thread at cgtalk. http://www.infograficagdl.com/tempos/cgtalk/barc.mov , but I'm available if you are interested or need any help.

J.Carlos
Some nice work in there bud, I think it's a shame how you present it though, you'd benefit from a more static less tiresome interface and some easy navigation. The way you present if you choose to change your site would add a lot of credit to your style and work, I would say, think architectural and structural and clients will coming to you!

[rgw3]

In the interest of not getting flamed, that post did sound like I wanted to take credit for someon elses hard work. That is not what I want to do at all. My goal is to say "my company can offer you this service, and here is the artist that did the work". I did not do a good job of saying that earlier. My PRIMARY goal is not to get screwed or screw anyone else along the way.

Ernest, thanks for the Cost update, that is about what I was thinking. I don't know if they have the money, but I'll be pushing.

I may have found somebody, but I will post back here either way.

Thanks and sorry if I offended...

[imashination]

What he is trying to say is that you will be working for him and all the work will be presented "From his company" ie. you will have no direct contact with the client. Thats all perfectly fine and above board.

[Ernest Burden]

My goal is to say "my company can offer you this service, and here is the artist that did the work"
That's how I read it. I think you wrote the post correctly. Perhaps you could have said "I want someone to sub-contract" to be a little clearer, but I understood you, no offense taken here.

Good luck!

[panchopantera]

Some nice work in there bud, I think it's a shame how you present it though, you'd benefit from a more static less tiresome interface and some easy navigation. The way you present if you choose to change your site would add a lot of credit to your style and work, I would say, think architectural and structural and clients will coming to you!
Thanks for pointing that out, I'm not happy with it either and I have had potential clients going thruogh the trouble of asking me where the pictures were. I wanted to keep it as simple as posible (I thought it was) but it didn't work, I also don't have the appropiate theme for the service I provide, so I guess It needs an urgent rearrangement and put that 100 bucks paid for swish to good work.

J.Carlos

[InTheCity]

Thanks for pointing that out, I'm not happy with it either and I have had potential clients going thruogh the trouble of asking me where the pictures were. I wanted to keep it as simple as posible (I thought it was) but it didn't work, I also don't have the appropiate theme for the service I provide, so I guess It needs an urgent rearrangement and put that 100 bucks paid for swish to good work.

J.Carlos
My work isn't much in comparison with some of 3D God's, but I've got a lot of credit for the layout of my site, http://www.project1media.com
Maybe you can find some inspiration there.

Anyway, keep up the good work.

[rgw3]

What he is trying to say is that you will be working for him and all the work will be presented "From his company" ie. you will have no direct contact with the client. Thats all perfectly fine and above board.

Thanks for that translation mash, I wish I had been smart enough to say it that way the first time!

ITC You've got a lot of really great work!

[rgw3]

Hi all, I've found someone to collab with on this, thanks to all who contacted me, and sorry for any confusion in the original post...

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