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Rakulei
12-23-2004, 05:56 PM
Hello, this is a piece I've done some time back. It took me a long time but because i did not work out the lighting while doing my colour roughs, its been giving me a real headache. I cant seem to find the major problem with this piece; i know her right shoulder could use more definition, but what else is wrong with the picture?

I would really appreciate it if someone could give me some advice on achieving more interesting lighting. Should i scrap the whole character and change her pose?Thanks a ton!

Photoshop 7.0 by the way.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/MercurialXen/kerriya_orb_summoner.jpg

Here's another version, where i tried creating a more detailed moon.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/MercurialXen/kerriya_orb_summonerv2.jpg

ditchman
12-24-2004, 12:45 AM
the first moon looks better, looks further away and more luminous. her upper arms are different lengths.
to give it more drama try painting in very deep shadows on a new layer (i'm assuming photoshop), fade the opacity untill you are happy. cool picture, i think you should soldier on.

Rakulei
12-24-2004, 03:17 AM
the first moon looks better, looks further away and more luminous. her upper arms are different lengths.
to give it more drama try painting in very deep shadows on a new layer (i'm assuming photoshop), fade the opacity untill you are happy. cool picture, i think you should soldier on.
Thank you for your advice. I too prefer the first moon better than the second one, which i feel seperates the character from the background. I'm not very good with lighting, but i'll work on the deep shadows. Sorry i forgot to mention, this is done in photoshop. Thanks for the advice!

xolvierx
12-24-2004, 01:24 PM
Nice concept!

THe thing i see that could be changed is the tree at the left. It looks a bit flat, its not rounded as a normal tree

btw nice fur on your wolf.

Another thing that you should definitly add is the red Highlights casted from her "Magic Staff" on her body specially her left arm.

Goro
12-24-2004, 01:32 PM
Hi Rakulei!

One major problem is that you didn't define a the lightsource. The moon and the magic ball
are the only lightscources in this image. It is a night scene so actually the whole scene
can't be so bright. And you Shaded her skin and her clothes jus as she's standing in a studio in spotlights.

In this case you have a strong light coming from behind and another light from the magic ball.
So everything has to be way darker. And you should use the red magic ball to lighten up the
face and stuff. The sky is also too bright imo. The moon doesn't seem to be glowing.

hope this helps!

Rakulei
12-25-2004, 09:55 AM
Nice concept!

THe thing i see that could be changed is the tree at the left. It looks a bit flat, its not rounded as a normal tree

btw nice fur on your wolf.

Another thing that you should definitly add is the red Highlights casted from her "Magic Staff" on her body specially her left arm.
Thank you for the useful comments. I thought about the red highlights but i wasnt too sure about illuminating her whole arm with the red. I'll have to experiment =) thanks for the compliment on the fur, and yeah i agree with the tree being too flat =(

Rakulei
12-25-2004, 09:57 AM
Hi Rakulei!

One major problem is that you didn't define a the lightsource. The moon and the magic ball
are the only lightscources in this image. It is a night scene so actually the whole scene
can't be so bright. And you Shaded her skin and her clothes jus as she's standing in a studio in spotlights.

In this case you have a strong light coming from behind and another light from the magic ball.
So everything has to be way darker. And you should use the red magic ball to lighten up the
face and stuff. The sky is also too bright imo. The moon doesn't seem to be glowing.

hope this helps!
Thank you so much for identifying the main problem so accurately. Yeap, i definitely have problems with my sense of lighting, so i posted here in hopes of getting help. It definitely came in the form of your post. Thanks so much! I'll try to update it asap.

DL-
12-25-2004, 03:22 PM
Well, everyone's identified the big things before me... ooooh... I do like this. I have a thing about characters, being an author - you're good. The purple with the red does give a feeling of wisdom & power, and the fur on the wolf is well done. Perhaps a bit shiny to be on an animal, but hey. Yes, the first moon is better; however, I think that it's a tiny bit too close to the earth to be rea.l It might just be my vision, but that's how it looks.

The woman's a tiny bit on the stick-side - her arms are different lengths and stuff, but her face and hair is well-formed. The staff is excellent!! Very, very good. You've got a nice idea going there.. keep working.

Rakulei
12-26-2004, 11:18 AM
Well, everyone's identified the big things before me... ooooh... I do like this. I have a thing about characters, being an author - you're good. The purple with the red does give a feeling of wisdom & power, and the fur on the wolf is well done. Perhaps a bit shiny to be on an animal, but hey. Yes, the first moon is better; however, I think that it's a tiny bit too close to the earth to be rea.l It might just be my vision, but that's how it looks.

The woman's a tiny bit on the stick-side - her arms are different lengths and stuff, but her face and hair is well-formed. The staff is excellent!! Very, very good. You've got a nice idea going there.. keep working.
Thank you for the compliments! =) Its comments like these that inspire and make my day.

MadClowns
12-28-2004, 01:10 AM
Seems everything ahs a bit of a deafaulkt lighting to it... try really consentrating on the direction of the light rather than something that is omnimus. Lighting will really give it dramatic sense.. theirs allot fo good resources out their http://www.3planesoft.com/img/fm_shot01.jpg

this is just an example... i'm not sying you should chage the whole composittion just showing you an image with different night time lighting

Rakulei
12-28-2004, 02:08 PM
Seems everything ahs a bit of a deafaulkt lighting to it... try really consentrating on the direction of the light rather than something that is omnimus. Lighting will really give it dramatic sense.. theirs allot fo good resources out their http://www.3planesoft.com/img/fm_shot01.jpg

this is just an example... i'm not sying you should chage the whole composittion just showing you an image with different night time lighting
Thank you for that image! I think it will definitely prove very helpful in my future furors! I agree with the default lighting part, i guess everything has it's own light source, which is horrible =\

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