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Arjo
12-21-2004, 08:07 AM
Hi,

I met something I completely don't understand. I'm trying to setup my epson 9600 printer.
First I made a test with the factory default colourmanagement. When I print an image directly from Windows or Qimage the print looks the same. But when I print with Photoshop CS the image looks very dull and desatuarated. I think I did use the right settings. I tried to reproduce the settings in the Photoshop help. Which says source set to "document space" and print set to "printer color management".
Then I thougt let's try to print with a colour profile. I downloaded a profile for the right type of printer, ink and paper. I used exactly the same settings for Photoshop and Qimage. The same print profile and intent and black point compensation. Deactivated colormanagement in the printer preferences. I got the same result. The photoshop image is very dull and looks almost similar to the first print. The Qimage print looks better with this profile and is coming very close to the image on my calibrated monitor. The Qimage print is also coming much closer to a print of the same image a print service printed.
Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong in Photoshop?

Arjo.
halo
12-21-2004, 12:14 PM
use the links here

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=123320

or try at adobeforums.com
Arjo
12-21-2004, 12:37 PM
use the links here

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=123320

or try at adobeforums.com
Thanks, it's a very interesting link but it didn't help in this case. I did another test today. I made the same print with exactly the same settings with PS 7. This version behaves how I would expect. I contacted adobe about it, I hope they can help.

Arjo.
halo
12-22-2004, 12:14 AM
Is the image RGB or CYMK?

do you have CM on in PS? If you have it off then the RGB space is your monitorRGB, which for starters isnt that clever, but it may be passing on that profile to your printer and printing using the monitorRGB gamut.
halo
12-22-2004, 12:20 AM
try assigning a new profile...dont convert, because that will keep the same colours. Does that change it?
Arjo
12-22-2004, 06:51 PM
Yes, I assigned the adobe98 profile and this makes a big difference. Now the colours are even more saturated than the print from V7. This makes it even more confusing for me. As long as the other three packages (PS7, Qimage, printwizard) print the same colours, and PS CS printing differently with the same settings as V7 I thought there's something wrong with CS. I must study this again.
Arjo
12-22-2004, 08:10 PM
Is the image RGB or CYMK?

do you have CM on in PS? If you have it off then the RGB space is your monitorRGB, which for starters isnt that clever, but it may be passing on that profile to your printer and printing using the monitorRGB gamut.
Thanks alot, I've got it working now. I assigned adobe rgb to the image and printed it with Qimage and Photoshop CS with the same printer profile and now both prints are identical. The only difficulty left will be file exchanges between different software. That's why I was always working in a world without profiles. Except for calibration of my monitor.
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