Grand Space Opera 2D Entry: MORDIN, Laurent

[MDN67]

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Good morning, in all and grieved for my English indeed very very very poor . It is the first time that I participate in this competition and when I look at what is post office, I tell myself that the bulk is to participate. Then here is the first stage of my plan, sketches it, I wanted to imager a scene of attack of a futuristic city, with what it entraine, spaceships and all the rest of it, but I wanted to insert into it personage on the first plan to humanize the whole, especially the woman who protect her child

[MDN67]

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Here a beginning of colour application of the sky. That gives an idea of the tone and selected luminosity. I worked the sky in several layer of the watercolour type to end up reaching a rather realistic result

[MDN67]

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Here I tried to use a photograph of mountain to try a beginning of matte painting, but good... I should not have an insane technique and the result displeased to me

[MDN67]

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Finally I chose an entirely graphic work, and I worked the mountain with texture create by my care all in shade, it east can be less realistic but I find that that sticks better with my sky

[Tranchefeux]

I like your drawing well to develop, for the sky have would say
3d...... good courage.

[MDN67]

Thanks Tranchefeu, no, for the sky with photoshop, but with many layers

Si tu préfères me parler en français n'hésite pas, cela m'éviitera des explosion de crâne en tentant de traduire mon anglais qui est trés trés trés mauvais

bon courage à toi et à ton super design

[Tranchefeux]

Then, my excuse to have thought of 3d for your sky, it is strong

Alors, mes excuse d'avoir pensé à de la 3d pour ton ciel, c'est fort :thumbsup:

[MDN67]

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the mountains are finished, i attack the futuristic city

[NathanielWest]

This is really nice, and you can very render well, although I think you should get the whole thing roughly blocked in to see if every piece of the picture works together or not. The sky is great, and the mountains look good, but the mountains don't look as though they belong in the scene at the moment. Mainly what isn't working in my opinion is that there is a lot of atmospheric haze on the mountains, but the sky doesn't appear very atmospheric. It's very saturated, and those mountains, which appear to be reflective rock, would pick up some of those intense yellows and oranges. Also, the shadows would probably be much darker, as there is only the one light source.

You've done an amazing job, and the textures on the mountains have a realistic quality. There's just some minor adjustments that would make it much stronger, although it is very strong already. I think you've done a good job so far, and I really want to see this taken all the way. Great work!!

[MDN67]

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I added a planet and I withdrew a little from atmospheric effect, I start to work on the ground and in particular the hills, the inegrality is made with brushs, it remains layers of fog has to return

[MDN67]

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I added a planet and I withdrew a little from atmospheric effect, I start to work on the ground and in particular the hills, the inegrality is made with brushs, it remains layers of fog has to return

[MDN67]

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MORE WORK IN THE HILLS WITH ATMOSPHERIC EFFECTS

[pr73]

Happy to see that I'm not the only one to fight when we have to speak english.

However, nice colors and details, looks like good oldschool airbrush style.
good luck vieux.

[MDN67]

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to be continued...

[AirbORn]

I like the colours and atmosphere, however I am a little confused as to what the story is in the composition and what indications there are of a vast civilization. Are you putting in buildings or ships in the background?

[BlueEyeLizard]

Very strong colors, love the sunset. Looks great so far.

[MDN67]

Thanks for the critics, yes, after the works on the landscap, i draw a futuristic city who is attack by many starships, but i work step by step scene after scene it's perhaps confuse for somebody,... excuse me for my terrible english

[cgkrusty]

Looking good so far, nice palette... looking forward to seeing the evolution of the piece!

[MDN67]

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I worked a little more the atmospheres and I have start has work before plan where will place ourselves the characters

[BlueEyeLizard]

Still looks great! I think the FG grass may be a bit too dark.

[Lovliebutterfly]

Looks good so far. I feel the grass could have been lighter in colour and less tall or even take less space on the page so that you can see more of the river. I'm waiting to see the characters and ships in! C'est bien jusqu'a present. Je pense que l'herbe aurait pu etre un peu moins fonce et un plus court ou bien meme prendre moins d'espace sur la page afin que tu puisses mieux voir la riviere. Sinon, j'attend les personnages et les vaisseaux maintenant!

[MDN67]

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I finish the futuristic city...

[MDN67]

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The beginning of the destruction of the city by the futur mother ship

[Impenetrable D]

Beautiful vista, very excited to see you progress in this link. It has a oceanic quality.
Keep it up
-D-




My Space Opera Link:
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/grandspaceopera/image.php?entry_id=23562

[lynch]

good landscape like the colour and texture i hope you'll find good placement for the mothership

my space opera 2d (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=189331)

[KaleN]

I think that You could ephasize main source of light some more. It wolud bring all the pieces together. Now they look a bit separeted

[MDN67]

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It's the first attack ship

[cgkrusty]

Looking good!

One thought... the planet in the distance looks like a force-field for the approaching ship. I think if you changed either the mist coming off the ships colour or the planets then you'd get the separation you're looking for... they're just too similiar in colour right now.

OR, you could change the planets position, or the ships...

I think you need to tone the city down as well, something similiar to the most distant mountains as it does look like it's behind them. That'll help with it's scale and the depth of the image.

Nice job so far, I love the sky!

[MDN67]

thank for critic i suppose i change the position of the ship, for the city, the muontain are so far than the city, but i make an error on the layer, this is not behind the mountain
sorry for my english

[Armando]

I like the colors and the composition, but I think that the buildings need to have some depth of field. Sort of like blurring into the background. Other than that great work.

[Hillartsympho]

i really like your piece so far, i think the edges of the ship are too sharp if its supposed to be traveling at a high speed. the mountains in the far distance become a bit too light, they should probably be closr in color to the sky next to them, or lighten the horizon to be closer in color to the mountains. it depends i guess on your choices about values and what sort of color range you wish to use.

[MDN67]

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I coloring an other attack ship with the same structure and i paint a rock in the primary plan, the next step is the coloring of a other style of attack ship

[Branko]

That composition is definitely working, atleast for now. The divide in the centre guides my eye and it allows for the feeling of. literaly, open space. Watch out that the ship on the right doesn't overwhelm the picture though, you might want to put a little more interest on the left side of the canvas just to balance it out.

-rasdasa

[MDN67]

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I have at the end the second type of ship, I made him a little more " mecanique ", by inspiring me stars war's ships, I always found that they made realists. I stop the vessels of attack there and I am now going to concentrate on the mother ship

[cgkrusty]

Love the new ship!

I see what you're saying about the city on the correct layer, reads a lot better now! This is coming along beautifully... great job!

[Branko]

Bad ass, that addition was well met. *grin*

-rasdasa

[Ganthu]

Exellent work mate! But isn`t there going to be any ressistance? Don`t get me wrong
i like looking at cities burn helplessly as much as the next guy but it seems to be an
important city so it may be worth fighting for :] Keep it up

[MDN67]

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I finished the mothership, I placed clouds which cover it partially to give an impression of height, I would polish up all this at the time of the final colorization. Now I am going to concentrate on appendix of the mothership, and finally on the characters

[MDN67]

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I beginning the first character, the mother with her son, it's the draw on paper

[MDN67]

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I finished the first and the second characters, the mother and her son, after this i begin to draw the last character, the man

[elmasfeo]

wow! it's looking very good, I really like your process

my only crit would be that the woman's hair is looking a bit strange to me, too heavy maybe, or the way it bends...I don't know... And IMHO you should decrease the blue light in the son's face, it was a bit difficult at the beggining to read it as a child... maybe have him look at his father to show better his face? just an idea, keep up the good work :thumbsup:

[MDN67]

Thank elmasfeo, sorry for my english, the hairs of the woman it's perhaps so big, it's true i change it, for the face of the son it's because the original image size is 3000 x 2500 pixels, the image in the post is at 740 pixels

[Virtuoso]

Just dropping off two of these.......:thumbsup: :thumbsup: .......Nice compo and overall color balance,along with interesting scene and setting..........well done Mordin.........:)

[MDN67]

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This is the draw on paper of the father, it's a warrior of the city

[MDN67]

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I finished the father and i added an other child for an impression of familly

[MDN67]

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details of the characters

[Ashton]

Wow, that looks like a book cover, nice work.

I like how the fathers hand is holding the kids head like he might crush it if he gets angry. I also like the balance of orange and blue you have going.

My only small idea would be, since you gave the alien lady large breasts, is it possible to make her more sexy or evil like the father?

Grand Space Opera 2D Entry: Ashton Simmonds (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=198332)

[Tranchefeux]

Hi,
Good progression, of your project, I particularly like the effect
of light on the head of the baby, only small flat avoids the blacks
pure which leads your visual and which does not hesitate in the real
world... go, go...

*Bonne progression, de ton projet, j'aime particulièrement l'effet de lumière sur la tête du bébé,
seule petit bémol évite les noirs pur qui plombe ton visuel et qui n'hésite pas dans le monde réel
... allez,allez...

[MDN67]

Ashton: thanks for your critics

tranchefeux: Merci pour ton support, concernant le noir pur, il n'est pas pur, peut être que le'affichage le rend ainsi, mais effectivement, il est peut être trop noir ce qui accentue un peu trop le contraste, je voulais, au départ le rendre ainsi pour accentuer l'impression de luminosité venant de l'avant, et j'ai peut être exagéré le contraste
encore merci et bon courage à toi également

[MDN67]

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I added some detail with regard to last stages, on the reflexions of light on the characters, as well as on the volume of the hair of the woman. I noticed that since the beginning, I have never given the title of the composition, it is about " the goodbye in our city "

[MDN67]

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it's the line art of the second child, i forget post this,...sorry

[MDN67]

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Here we are, I post my final image, I do not think that I would workstill above before the end of the clallenge, although everything is not completed I thank those who brought constructive critics throughout the creation of this composition and has to read my
terrible english (I promises of me improve by the next challenge)
I appreciated the participation in this challenge because he allowed me to exceed me in the art of the painting in participe with many very good artist , I tried to be as high as realization contained in this forum without succeeding really, in my avis but,....Each its level, the drawing is not my job it is only a hobby (a hobby I like) I hope that my image Will be apprecie in some and I wish good luck to all the participants

[spacesnail]

Hello,
very nice work. I hope you the best in the judging process.

Et surtout, continue à dessiner. Et désoleé d'arriver après la bataille.

[MDN67]

Thank space naeil for your support
merci à toi et bon courage pour le challenge

[melkao]

:eek:wow man, that is great.
a beatuful escene to see with our dad or our son. very dramatic the destruccion in the sunset, an image that no one can to forget!:applause:

[Shinwa]

This is incredible....I love your steps to the sky and land and mountains and even your detail work on the overall scene. It conveys an emotional impact with the family standing there too...Good Job !

[MDN67]

Thanks for your comment, i'm happy than my project is loved by someone thany you

[g8long]

nice concept!
I like it very much!!
If there can be more painting element in your composition ,
it will be better!

[MDN67]

THANK g8long for your support, but all the élément of my compo are paint

[MDN67]

Hi, if you can make critics good or bad, before the end, will be great, thank

[coolgauss]

hey MDN~ thanks a lot for commenting to my work(the face up : LotR). merci
and.
I really impressed by your work. your very creative.
GOOD LUCK!! space opera winner'll be you

[meanimator]

Nice theme specially initial sketches are great, good luck buddy
Ather

[MDN67]

Tha,k for your comments, i'm happy then someone like my pic, other critics please

[jddog]

hey man this is really a great work :applause: wonderul scene !

jdd

[BlueEyeLizard]

:thumbsup: Awesome Work! :thumbsup:
Good Luck!

[Smooth-Criminal]

HEY MAN, wath a beatifull work, this is my first post in the 2d challenge, i really like the image, the lighting and the characters, amazing, it would wish to be able to draw like you, but is more easy the 3d for my, i wish you luck!! ( i have the same problem with the english):bounce:

[MDN67]

Thanks for your comments, and good luck for the challengers:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Virtuoso]

very nice results......A beautiful piece,and avery emotional one......A very nice effort and the execution has been done beautifully.....very dramatic and overall a wonderful piece of art......fantastique Mordin................:buttrock: :arteest:

[MDN67]

Thank for your coments virtuoso

[Voytek]

These comes off as being a very epic image. Nice work. I like it.

[Aethyrprime]

Nice job Laurent! Great feeling you have here. Keep at it!

[cabertevon]

Congatulations...Mordin.

[MDN67]

Thank for the comments and good luck for the end:thumbsup:

[Climax]

• Well done pal! you finished! :thumbsup:
CONGRATULATIONS!
Looks fantastic!

[cgkrusty]

I really like the Father and child figures, all the small details and the rim lighting is very efective. The Mother is at a tougher angle and has that hairdo to deal with. I think the issue is that she would pretty well be in silouette as well. The perspective in the image pretty well dictates that she is on a flat plane horizontal to the image's bottom edge. I would suggest a few things:

a) Leave it as it is, it's not a huge issue and you've put a lot of work into her and the message of the piece is more important than the details.

b) You put her in a silouette similiar to the Father and child.

c) You do (b) above and crank up the ambient light behind the figures so that we can see the details you want to bring out in the Mother.

A few other things are the detail level of certain areas vs others. The city / ships and people have a lot of detail (relative to their place in the composition) and work well together, as does the FG grass. For the MG trees and the mountains I would suggest adding a subtle texture layer (in Overlay mode) in Photoshop to give them just a bit more detail. Try a rock texture or a metal texture. You can use the perspective modify in Photoshop to get the texture to fit the perspective (and have the detail follow the composition a bit better). This should help pull the piece together a bit more.

One thing I would take a serious look at though is the rendering of your ship trails. Just seems too simple for the detail that's in the rest of the image. I would also make the trails brighter closer to the engines themselves.

Other than that there is some great detail and imagination in this piece and it sets a mood and tells a story. All great achievements!

Great work!

:thumbsup:

[MDN67]

Thank you, for these constructive criticisms. I think more of having the time to work again the woman, my own work (not graph) is very taking , on the other hand I am going to try to modify the trees of the hills which, effectively, are less detailed than the rest of elements. Concerning the light left by reacteurs, can be a little more luminosity on the base of reactors
Thank you still for these critics and good luck to you for the end for the competition, I do not think of poster of the other messages before the end

[Fahrija]

Hi MDN67,

congratulations to your picture! the colors are very well and the ambiance convincing.
Good luck to you

greetings to lovely france, dear neighbour :)


Fahrija

[MDN67]

Thank for the comments, and, good luck for the end

i know a little cologne, pretty cathedrale

[Vensha]

Now that's an action packed scene - definately the stuff of a space epic!

I like your process of building up the final image - you've done a great job at maintaining your original vision shown in the first sketch.

you must feel very satisfied - well done!

[MDN67]

Thank you for comments, the image asked for a lot of work, but, no, the more I look at it and the more I say to myself that there were still things check has to work, but, to be satisfied by one it is a little to consider above the others

[MDN67]

GOOD LUCK FOR EVERY CHALLENGERS

[conundrum]

congratulations on the finish, love the colours and composition, the way you handled a destroyed city with those few characters is impressive. good luck

[MDN67]

Thank for the comments, good luck

[David01]

La Francophonie existe bel et bine toujours et tu as le soutien de l'un de ses memebre

i find that the perspective angel was find well it matche the picture in great way ! that is not often the case always as many many 2d painters makes a lot of change in progressions like me .) fore exmple and many others but you, you follow exactly the same idea as in beggining

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