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RobertoOrtiz
12-08-2004, 05:39 AM
OK I storyboarded the animation :

http://66.242.144.2/animation/story1.jpg
http://66.242.144.2/animation/story2.jpg
http://66.242.144.2/animation/story3.jpg
http://66.242.144.2/animation/story4.jpg
http://66.242.144.2/animation/story5.jpg
http://66.242.144.2/animation/story6.jpg
http://66.242.144.2/animation/story7.jpg
http://66.242.144.2/animation/story8.jpg
http://66.242.144.2/animation/story9.jpg

Ill be using this rig for the animation.
http://66.242.144.2/animation/puppet1.jpg

Wish me sucess guys!
-R

AWAKE
12-08-2004, 02:03 PM
I like it.. It would be cool to see it rendered. The light from the lantern would really play well.

RobertoOrtiz
12-08-2004, 06:38 PM
Thanks awake, I am now just working on issues of timing.
Here is the storyboard as an animated gif.

-R

RobertoOrtiz
12-10-2004, 01:16 PM
Ok I blocked the animation and did the key poses.

I have not done ANY timing yet, or secondary animation


http://66.242.144.2/animation/test1.mov (2 megs)
-R

AWAKE
12-10-2004, 01:58 PM
Roberto,

It might be nice to have the lamp a little lower in the beginning and then have him raise the lamp as the shot continues.

RobertoOrtiz
12-10-2004, 02:03 PM
Thanks Awake
Great idea!
Ill add it tonight.

-R

RobertoOrtiz
12-11-2004, 07:03 AM
Still tweaking the poses and the timing:


http://66.242.144.2/animation/test2.mov (2 megs)

-R

bawhabmw
12-11-2004, 03:05 PM
since you are still working on timing I have a few ideas. your animation lacks holds and thus I think it disrupts any thinking time. one thing I can suggest is, especially with the time limit of this contest, that you keep the movements limited as well. There might not be enough time to have you character turn all the way away and then back and still register thought. if you just have him look to the side you could have him hold with a scared look on his face, then turn back forward and hold. this way you could have some time to read expressions on his face and you could even throw in the lantern shaking a little bit.

SheepFactory
12-11-2004, 05:59 PM
the cut needs to be during the action roberto , so instead of cutting when he comes to a stop you should cut when he is turning around and continue and stop that motion in the second cut.

looking forward to the update.

RobertoOrtiz
12-12-2004, 02:49 AM
bawhabmw and Sheep Factory thanks for the comments so far.

I tried to implment them in this version.
I still have to do the face animation, secondary animation and the other character.



http://66.242.144.2/animation/test3.mov (2 megs)

-R

AWAKE
12-12-2004, 03:26 AM
roberto,

check the tangents on the guy's first turn. It looks a little abrupt when he starts moving. It also might be nice to have the character facing offscreen at the beginning of the first shot and then have him turn towards camera, maybe even past it... That way we get more time on his face.

Your guy is really starting to come alive at the end of the second shot... :)

bawhabmw
12-12-2004, 03:02 PM
i like the cut better. this version works better. you character is looking a tad robotic. not sure if you are still on linear tangents.

RobertoOrtiz
12-12-2004, 03:45 PM
OK I did two versions
one is the version suggested by AWAKE


http://66.242.144.2/animation/test4a.mov (2 megs)

and the second by tweaking the previous version:

http://66.242.144.2/animation/test4b.mov (2 megs)

-R

Iced_Eagle
12-12-2004, 05:33 PM
test4b.mov has a much better feeling cut IMHO. :)

SheepFactory
12-12-2004, 06:08 PM
imho cut needs to happen at least 10 frames earlier in test4b. you are currently cutting when the action is almost over and the cut is visible to the viewer and distractive.

RobertoOrtiz
12-13-2004, 01:49 AM
OK Sheep, I tried to follow your advice

Here you go:

http://66.242.144.2/animation/test5.mov (2 megs)

-R

RaisedByWolves
12-13-2004, 09:21 AM
I like the cut during a turn, the big transitiony movement makes the camera cut pretty invisible. But I would do it during the second turn (the turn back). Dramatically speaking, I think it would communicate better if we saw the big guy only a moment or two before the little guy does. When we see him SO far in advance, the mind has time to think 'he didn't notice that before?.. I did!'

~Raised

RobertoOrtiz
12-13-2004, 12:55 PM
Ok Raised here you go:

http://66.242.144.2/animation/test6.mov (2 megs)

-R

RobertoOrtiz
12-15-2004, 05:23 AM
OK update :

Added the the secondary character.
Added some tweaks to the animation

http://66.242.144.2/animation/test7.mov (2 megs)

-R

monstersauce
12-16-2004, 10:38 PM
that looks really nice,
I think I would do the cut a couple of frames into him turning back...
it feels like it pops a little bit for me as it is... :shrug:

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RobertoOrtiz
12-17-2004, 03:32 AM
OK update :

tweaked the motion
implemented monstersauce comments
cleared the keyframes to make the motion more smooth
http://66.242.144.2/animation/test8.mov (2 megs)

-R

monstersauce
12-17-2004, 03:58 AM
it's looking better,
there is a little jump I noticed in the lantern's motion about 15 frames in...
also I noticed that you turn the character by just rotating the entire character instead of actually making the character step to turn and then step to turn back...
good stuff :)

vrljc
12-17-2004, 06:06 AM
Two things really stood out.

#1: This goes along with monstersauce's suggestion in the turn. Whether the character steps to turn or he it is just rotating his body, those hips need a bit more movement. For example, when he looks back, it is great that you have his upper body bend down then up during the turn, showing the arc; however, consider moving his hips down during the turn then back up out of the turn ( a little further up than u think) then move the hips back down into the cushion/settle. Then repeat this on the look back to front. This will unstiffen things a bit more and will also add a lot more weight to your character.

#2. When the charater drops his sword hand @ the end, this movement is awkward. I noticed you have three key poses in that movement. #1 is the hand and sword up, #2 is the elbow drop, #3 is the hand and sword drop. It seems too robotic....maybe it is just some linear curves in the graph editor?

Its getting there! :)

-jon

MrSolo
12-17-2004, 09:56 AM
Hi Roberto Ortiz (Beutifull Name... he he he)

Yeahh...It is comming alive! A few things that you coud think about it (just my opinion)

- Add more arcs and when he turns. Be carefull with that feeling of going from one pose to another. (follow trought)

- I guess your cut could work better if you did it in the middle of him turning back. I have a feeling that "fast cuts" works better when characters are moving... you could try it...

- Clean your fcurves. Sometimes I have a feeling that the character moves a little hard. I guess your slow in and out could be polish a little more.

Working fine untill now! Just keep working.... : )

Cya.

RobertoOrtiz
12-19-2004, 03:40 PM
http://66.242.144.2/animation/test9.mov (2 megs)


Tweaked the curves
Smooted the animation a bit
Thanks for all the comments guys.
-R

RobertoOrtiz
12-21-2004, 02:43 AM
http://66.242.144.2/animation/finalentry.mov (2megs)


Done for now.
Thanks guys for all your help.

-R

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