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DigDug 12-02-2004, 06:18 PM this is something personal ive been working on during my spare time.....any critique would be appreciated
Thanks
Doug C
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LordDubu
12-02-2004, 06:33 PM
Good model, nice concept, good textures... technically i have no crits. However the sheer shirt seems a tad juvenille compared to the rest of the model.
Tumerboy
12-02-2004, 07:24 PM
I agree with Dubu. The work is great, however what's her purpose? What does she do? She has a gun, and some mechanical stuff strapped to her back. What does that do for her? Knowing that would help us critique the model. Or, if it should be apparent what she does, you may want to rethink things. Give us context.
DigDug
12-02-2004, 08:33 PM
Hey guys...Thanks for the response..Both of your points are valid and understood.
The simple explanation is she's a Mech pilot (think fighter Pilot/Tank Commander)...so what you looking at is more of the undergarment (No...not underwear) that pads her and connects her to her Mech suit. Its kinda like a G-suit... but not...The clasp on the back would hook her into her suit/mech.
The Idea of a sheer top is loosely based on stuff Ive seen in regard to suits of Medieval Armor and Japanese Armor that under the armor they would wear silk or something light and comfortable and pad where their bodies contacted armor...and ... admittedly I just wanted to draw some boobs.(cause they wont let me do it at work).
The color of her top was originally Orange and the Idea of that was if she was outside of her suit due to damage that the bright color would aid in air rescue .. thats loosely based on the idea of astronauts suit, although admittedly that wouldn't make sense for a combat situations .. this is definitely a judgment call of art over real functionality...Her overall texture before the one you see now was Cadmium Orange/Burnt Sienna but confused to much with her skin color...So...I went for the color scheme you see now.....
And in regards to her weapon the Idea of the hand gun is what I see when I look at fighter pilots or tank commanders they almost always have a hand gun for when they are out of there vehicle's and are vulnerable ....My next project is the Mech/Armor that goes over that suit......(uh..Maybe)
I hope that this kinda helps explain my thought process for this piece...
Oh..and before someone corrects me..Yes I spelled Pilot wrong
Doug C
Nice model yet I'd remove the boobs from the texture, it kinda kills the character. Nice boobs though ;>. Imagine the faces of the pickup crew when she needs a little help on her dammaged mech :P.
the_podman
12-02-2004, 11:25 PM
how bout a texture sheet? They are painted very well. She won't need that gun when facing the badies on foot, they'll probably be frozen while drooling. Nice rack.
What kind of character's do you do for work?
-pod
DigDug
12-02-2004, 11:45 PM
Ill post maps at a latter date..when Im done.
Im currently unemployed (thats why I have time to do my own thing)...I was working for Obsidian Entertainment up til recently..and working on "knights of the Old republic II"....needless to say.. but if anyone needs an 3d artist in the southern Califonia area please let me know..it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Doug C
Confracto
12-03-2004, 01:14 AM
yeah, get rid of the boobs in the texture...or at least make the suit cover more, if it's a mech jumptsuit, it should cover more, and might be more beleiveable.
nice modeling and texturing though, gj.
Prs-Phil
12-03-2004, 08:35 AM
woha, you´ve got some huge breasts there ;)
I think the skin is still a bit to orange
Other than that, nice work, could you please post some wireframes of her :)
AndyH
12-03-2004, 09:44 AM
admittedly I just wanted to draw some boobsHahaha! :beer: nice one! Good to see some honesty!
Nice model - very good textures and a good design. The only thing i dont like too much are the braces - they seem like they would get in the way and seem a little cumbersome and low-tech considering what technical advances may be around in her time. And yeah, the see-through top must go!
Also - whats the polycount on the legs like? they seem a little blocky and square from certain angles.
Nice work!
Frank Dodd
12-03-2004, 12:56 PM
It doesnt look very 'WIP' to me, it looks more finished than most finished pieces I've seen! An excelent, quality model with a fantastic texturing job too. In particular I love the little cap that you have used :)
AdamAtomic
12-03-2004, 04:03 PM
normally I would post some tirade about big-tittied game women, but I've kind of given that up. It took me a while to realize that the war was over I guess :P Also, I really like your design; in no way does the appeal of this character rely on the titties alone. the suit seems pretty practical, and it looks great. The RAF-style cap is really cool too.
the only real beef i have is as follows:
If you are a girl with pretty large boobs (which, on this forum, is extremely unlikely), or you live with one (more likely, at least), then you know that there is a reason that they don't walk around with their boobs hangin out all day long: It hurts like crazy! Big titties = sore titties, unless they have some support to help out. "Mech pilot" is an occupation that, I would have to guess, would expose your character to a lot of oscillation, or "jigglin". After about 15 minutes of that, your pilot would either be crying or putting on a bra.
Along the same lines, there is a reason that only women in comics and video games have their thong straps pulled way up over their hip bones - that also hurts like crazy. I am going to assume that most of you have received (or are receiving) at least one wedgie. I am also going to assume that it was not (or is not) voluntary. Thong straps over hip bones = apparently voluntary wedgie, and thus lacks credibility (plus it is a character design cliche).
I can understand wanting to draw some boobs, it is fun, but a few simple changes can lend your already good design the classy, pragmatic touches it needs to be great. And really, you don't even have to cover up the nipples; just help this girl out!
Prs-Phil
12-03-2004, 04:16 PM
maybe the top is made of some super tight material that the NASA uses for spacecrafts and gives her breasts the support they need without taking away their freedome to fully spread out ;)
Littleberu
12-03-2004, 04:31 PM
The model is excellent, but... the boobs, like everyone said, just screams : "Har Har, Forced Mature content!!!". I know you like boobs and all, I do too, but have you thought about the utility of seeing the tits? Is it really usefull for the viewer to see the string hanging out?
Tumerboy
12-03-2004, 05:39 PM
Adam, I feel your pain, I've been fighting the same fight for many years now. . . to no avail. . .
NeptuneImaging
12-03-2004, 05:41 PM
I do agree about the breasts. And since this is mech pilot I would figure that she would be more covered up. I play alot of mech games (which take place in the 30th century mostly) and I would have never seen any character with a shirt like that. And by then Thongs would be out of style.
And also the see-thru shirt takes away the sexiness that is a pilot. (In a fight, the enemy would have an unfair advantage). A girl character is more sexy with more clothes on, which starts to raise questions about things other that her sensuality (or it is gives male viewers something else to like about her than her breasts)
And I would make the breasts a little smaller to make them more natural feeling. (big-breasted characters IMO feels very stereotypical) For equipment, I would make the suit full body. More high tech.
I hope this isn't too harsh or anything, especially for a model that looks amazing well done.:thumbsup:
Waugh
12-03-2004, 06:11 PM
Hey.
I won't add some more about the boobs, I personnaly had to fight with myself to reduce those of a model I'm working on... Big boobs are fun to make, but also easier ! (my point of view, but I kinda share it with myself, so... :) )
I just wanted to make a little statement about her pants. As a motorbiker (meaning some stupid fella that freezes to near-coma every morning on the way to work and hadn't yet understand the use of 4 wheels and closed, warmed up habitacle) I own some leather pants with lace (correct word?). They are set on the side, and on purpose, 'cause when you walk, or duck, or whatever, the pants rub the legs on the front. The lace on the front would let her with some major skin irritation after a few hours. And on the back, well, it's probably very uncomfortable behind the knees. And one more argument for a single, on-the-side lace : why set two laces, meaning more material, more time, and so higher price, when one would be just fine ?
Okay, just beeing annoying about that, but overall it's a fine character, with some minor adjustments it will kick arses !
Keep it up !
Waugh
GregRinaldi
12-05-2004, 08:49 AM
Very nice model and textures. I'm neutral about the breast size issue (although I think the see-through shirt takes away from the rest of the design). The only crit I can add atm is in regards to the laces. As Waugh said, laces make more sense on the side of the leg. However, if you're going to leave them the way they are, I'd suggest adjusting the rear laces to better contour her butt. The way it is now, the laces really make her butt look flat, because they are way too far apart. Also, you may want to add some seams/wrinkles in and around the buttcrack area. That should help to give her rear some more shape. It'd be a shame for a chick with breasts as nice as those to have a flat rear (man, that must sound perverted). Anyway. good job!
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