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RobertoOrtiz
11-29-2004, 01:35 PM
"Visions of the Netherlands"
By
Inspired by Garma

Welcome to the cgtalk sketch group.

We will try to post one of these topics once a day for your enjoyment.

These are the rules:
* Post only your FINAL piece on this thread, based on the topic on the thread.
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* Any piece caught breaking the rules will be taken off the thread.
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(The author will be given credit). So guys keep them coming.
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Good luck

-Roberto
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TX-Snakebyte
11-29-2004, 02:27 PM
Nice topic. Hopefully i can contribute...

Netherlands: weed,cheese,windmills and tulips jump to my mind...what a beautiful country :cool:

Perhaps i use "her" as a ref... (does anyone know the artists name?)

http://mitglied.lycos.de/waldmeister200/pix/frau_antje.jpg

:thumbsup:

Garma
11-29-2004, 03:06 PM
weed

don't you get me starting about it :banghead: one of the things that make me wanna leave.
that picture is cool tho :)

a few facts:

- I never saw a field with tulips in my life
- there's one place where there are about 5 windmills next to each other, for the rest there are one or two in a couple of cities but that's it.
- weed is allowed and indeed smoked a lot, but it's not like every person in holland smokes weed. Far from that.
- cheese is hot :)
- we have a lot of canals in the older cities (this is very close to my house (http://www-math.science.unitn.it/Bike/Countries/Europe/Tour_Reports/Lenore/photos/Delft.jpg) )
- it's flat.. and loads of water
- it rains all winter and autumn but summers are nice.
- we have Balkenende (http://www.longtransplantatie.nl/arian/_images/foto_balkenende.jpg)
- we call ourselves technologically innovative (e.g. we are smarter. there. :rolleyes: )

JeroenDStout
11-29-2004, 04:54 PM
Oi, don't mess with the Balkenende :scream:

Yay for being Dutch :)

Erikoinen
11-29-2004, 05:05 PM
What's up with the visions? :)

cris23
11-29-2004, 05:15 PM
after the things Garma said nobody wants to post his tulips, windmills and pot smokers anymore. :D

Ilikesoup
11-29-2004, 05:36 PM
after the things Garma said nobody wants to post his tulips, windmills and pot smokers anymore. :D
I do! I do! Gonna draw Garma, Jeroen and Supervlieg smoking pot and eating cheese with windmills in the background. They may or may not be wearing wooden shoes. :twisted:

I won't really do that.

Twozzok
11-29-2004, 05:43 PM
Contraversial?

http://www.mazzas-place.com/Michael/visiondutch.jpg

about 45mins Mouse PS

Cyanid
11-29-2004, 05:52 PM
omg garma...never seen a field of tulips?? where do you live man :p
and what's wrong with Balkenende? hehe :D

Garma
11-29-2004, 06:25 PM
I do! I do! Gonna draw Garma, Jeroen and Supervlieg smoking pot and eating cheese with windmills in the background.

I'd *pay* for a picture like that :beer:

omg garma...never seen a field of tulips?? where do you live man

You mean we actually have them :eek:

Twozzok: I was hoping no one would know :sad:
;)

Garma
11-29-2004, 07:12 PM
I really have no clue how long this one took.. 2 -3 H probably

Painter

http://csr.oli.tudelft.nl/huizen/hg/tdg/177_visionsofthenetherlands.JPG

Erikoinen
11-29-2004, 07:19 PM
Well this is my Holland. :)

Photoshop, Wacom, 1h30min

http://koti.mbnet.fi/teimo/erikoinen/kraa/sketches/vision-of-holland.jpg

Good work all!

captain chapo
11-29-2004, 07:26 PM
am i missing something about this Balkenende guy...i was just able to find that he was a cda in your government...i'm assuming there's more to the story...?

Telemaco
11-29-2004, 08:51 PM
Hi again, this is how I see the dutch (school)

PS&W, 2 hours and a half

(of course, my reference is Vermeer). Maybe Jia do the same as yesterday... :)

Telémaco

http://www.akenar.com/Sketches/Images/sk044.jpg

Goro
11-29-2004, 09:09 PM
Garma the water looks really nice! :thumbsup:

Telemaco muy bien pintado! Me gusta muchisimo! simply awesome

now here is the Netherlands I know....:D
2h 30min PS+Wacom

http://www.area-56.de/pics/cgtalk/sketchgroup/visions_of_netherlands.jpg

Garma
11-29-2004, 09:36 PM
haha how much do I owe ya Goro :applause: hilarious :beer: stored on hd.

*still laughing*

and thanks! glad you liked it. You don't want to know what's under the water :) hundreds of bicycles. it's true!

Erikonen: like the colors. Doesn't look that much like Holland but its the pciture that counts eh? :)

TElemaco: I immediately recognised it :) good job. The resulting painting Vermeer made is even more appealing than your reference.

captain chapo: Did you see his hair? He looks like Harry Potter. At least it's his nick. He's our prime minister and he's allright. He has a tough time, with all the economic troubles and useless killing lately. It's just... he's old fashioned and that makes him weird.

SteveV
11-29-2004, 10:51 PM
Just beautiful Telemaco.

Xibalba
11-29-2004, 11:25 PM
Nice work guys!
Erikoinen: Holland is flat :-)

jiasaer
11-29-2004, 11:51 PM
Hi, everybody :)
I've tempted to use as reference the same Veermer's picture that Telémaco has used... Too difficult for me. I'm afraid I've failed. :shrug:
This is the very point in which I gave up.
Good night.

http://ofunil.akenar.com/%BBvarios/DS177-VisionsOfNetherlands.jpg

drawMonger
11-30-2004, 01:06 AM
I think I'll be going to artists' hell for this...but couldn't help but question Garma's claim that not everyone in .nl smokes the wacky tobacci :D

http://digitalcraft.com.au/misc/sg177-visionsofthenetherlan.gif
painter / 40mins (used ref)

Too difficult for me. I'm afraid I've failed.jiasaer, Take that back! You have not failed, it's a great sketch :thumbsup:

jiasaer
11-30-2004, 01:08 AM
hi again :)
second one...

http://ofunil.akenar.com/%BBvarios/DS177-VisionsOfNetherlands2.jpg

Sagii
11-30-2004, 02:59 AM
:cry: I want to play too!! But I am swamped with finals, all the time I have is to come here and just look at all your beautiful work.

Great job everyone... hopefully my work for my classes will end ok and I will be able to sketch along such fine people.

:thumbsup:

robinayles
11-30-2004, 05:19 AM
Visions of The Netherlands...There are 7 arched bridges on the canals of Amsterdam.
http://www.k-squared.com/netherlands.jpg

About an hour, PS/Wacom. Used this pic I took as a reference (http://www.k-squared.com/amst_arch_bridges.jpg).
I think if you look real close, you can see Garma, Supervlieg and Jeroentje hanging out in a brown cafe on the right there, smoking a bit of the weed! :)

GOTgraphic
11-30-2004, 05:31 AM
Nice work everybody.

Unfortunately you all missed the boat concerning the topic title. You see its says, "Visions...". So, with that I present a glimpse into the mind of a Hollander having a vision (in other words, tripping out :bounce: ) ;) ;) ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Got10mm/40021129visionsofnetherland.gif

Illustrator, Photoshop, ImageReady=2hr (its small because Photobucket only allows 250kb max file size)


PS: No offense intended to the Dutch here :) I happen to live in a Dutch town in Nebraska that was settled in the 1800s by Hollanders. We have tulips in our front yard... and several people have little windmills too :cool: Long live Holland!

FridayEve
11-30-2004, 07:20 AM
http://www.fridayeve.com/gallery/cgtalk/cg177_fridayeve.jpg
1 hour/painter
I thought I would continue with the "girls of the world" theme. I could not resist the good old tuplip and wooden shoe. (after Garma scared everyone away from doing it) :)
Thanks for all of your comments about my previous work. This is a really great community.
Thank you Roberto for keeping it up.

Gord-MacDonald
11-30-2004, 08:29 AM
Photoshop - 3 hrs

The figure is from a monument called "The National Liberation Monument to the Canadians". The original is in Apeldoorn Netherlands, a full replica is in Ottawa Canada.

The memorial symbolizes the liberation of the Netherlands by the Canadians during WW2. The two hats represent the friendship that exists between Canada and the Netherlands

**slight edit to lighting**



http://cg2020.com/dailysketch/twohatsottawa_5.jpg

Garma
11-30-2004, 09:04 AM
(after Garma scared everyone away from doing it)

hehe, I had no intentions on that. Love that picture :thumbsup:

love them all folks, very nice works.

I actually like your first picture too Jia.

drawMonger: You leave me speechless... Blasphemy :bounce:

Supervlieg
11-30-2004, 09:57 AM
Hey there's some great pics in this thread. You all have gotten a lot better.

Garma: that pic is awesome! Must be one of your best works yet. Great style!
Goro: hehe, thats just awesome. Love those colors!
Telemaco, Fridayeve, those are great!

Taron333
11-30-2004, 11:53 AM
I'm so out of it....it's crazy....I just thought I give it a brief break...exaclt like this:

openCanvas1.1/35min
photoshop/2min
http://www.taron.de/Storage/Images/2d_sketches/Neatherlands.jpg

UnlikelyCorny
11-30-2004, 12:10 PM
Well this is my Holland. :)

Photoshop, Wacom, 1h30min

http://koti.mbnet.fi/teimo/erikoinen/kraa/sketches/vision-of-holland.jpg

Good work all!For a more realistic dutch horizon it's enough to draw one horizontal line. Except for a few little hills in 'Limburg' there are no mountainlike structures in Holland whatsoever.

We have a lot of water though. As for the weed smoking people*; statisticly you'll find more in the UK than in the netherlands.

We do have mills, but mainly in area's where you tend to find tourists (logical I guess).

Original dutch attire is only worn for tourist sake and mainly by very old people. I for instance have never had clogs in my life, let alone a 'boerenkiel' (traditional blue cotton shirt).

*)obviousely not in this picture unless it's the reason of the fogg.

Erikoinen
11-30-2004, 12:34 PM
UnlikelyCorny, ye, but that's the Holland I see in my head. :)

cris23
11-30-2004, 12:47 PM
thats what i call a ViSi0N of the netherlands, fantastic picture Taron333 :bounce:

robinayles
11-30-2004, 03:23 PM
To all of you "Netherlanders" I know exactly what you mean about people having a misconception about your country. People do think of tulips, windmills and canals. I'm often amazed at how many people think Texas is like the TV show and everyone is rich and owns a ranch....or they think its still the old west and everyone still rides horses and kids go to school in a one-room schoolhouse. I guess a place gets known for one certain thing and that's all anyone thinks about.

Supervlieg
11-30-2004, 03:31 PM
To all of you "Netherlanders" I know exactly what you mean about people having a misconception about your country. People do think of tulips, windmills and canals. I'm often amazed at how many people think Texas is like the TV show and everyone is rich and owns a ranch....or they think its still the old west and everyone still rides horses and kids go to school in a one-room schoolhouse. I guess a place gets known for one certain thing and that's all anyone thinks about.
Dont you all drive pickups and listen to country music? ;)

Keem
11-30-2004, 03:33 PM
http://www.keemz.com/uploads/keem-netherland.jpg
3:30 min Painter IX

Art2
11-30-2004, 04:16 PM
Keem, that is sweet and very funny! My favorite! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Keem
11-30-2004, 09:30 PM
Keem, that is sweet and very funny! My favorite! :thumbsup::thumbsup:
Thanx Art2.. i have really fancied this Donquixote character though i dont know the whole story but it have always moved my imagination as a kid.. now in 2004 i guess i can make my fantasy real

UnlikelyCorny
11-30-2004, 09:48 PM
I always thought Don Quijote was Spanish and was fighting the kind of spanish windmills like in Taron's pic.

RobertoOrtiz
11-30-2004, 09:57 PM
LOL!
Keem I love your pic.


-R

Keem
11-30-2004, 10:03 PM
RobertoOrtiz thanx 4 ur comment

Art2
12-01-2004, 12:27 AM
This one needs a bit of explaining I think.

In the Netherlands we have the folklore that is 'Sinterklaas' (st. Nicolas).
He's a holy man comming all the way from Spain bringing presents for all childeren who have been good all year. He comes mid november and leaves after his birthday the 5th of december. All kids love him and fear him at the same time, 'cos when you were bad... oh man...
The last few years the good old Klaas got some competition from 'Santa Claus'.
People skipping the tradition of 'Sinterklaas' in favor of the 'American/English' custom of buying presents for Christmas. (of course there are people who do both, rich bastards ;))

This is the battle between Sinterklaas and Santa (rpg-style), that always takes place in december. A typical Dutch thing :)

around 2.5h, painterix

http://www.marlonart.nl/web/sketch60.jpg

UnlikelyCorny
12-01-2004, 07:54 AM
Excellent pic Art2, glad though you did not add "Zwarte Piet", that's always a bit of a hard one to explain to a foreigner. And come to think of it, a hard one to explain to anyone.

Keem
12-01-2004, 08:05 AM
Hey Art2 thats very creative man.. good work

Art2
12-01-2004, 11:42 AM
Thank you guys! I had a blast making this one.

Unlikely, yeah I left out the helpers ('Pieten' and 'Elfs') on both sides.
I wanted to depict the battle between the two 'Bosses'.
(not to mention avoiding the explaining part...)

GOTgraphic
12-01-2004, 12:47 PM
LOL, that really cool looking Art2! It never occured to me that there would be such a battle like that... thats funny.

That would make a fantastic movie... just thinkg of it... Reindeer... sleighs with gatling-guns... soldier elfs... :bounce:

BAJAMAN
12-01-2004, 01:18 PM
In the Netherlands we have the folklore that is 'Sinterklaas' (st. Nicolas).
...
He comes mid november and leaves after his birthday the 5th of december Hey, Art2, In Belgium he only comes around EXACLTY on his birthday (which is the 6th of december)
In some cities in Belgium they don't celebrate Sinterklaas, but St. Maarten (november 11th I think). Could that be your saint too?

Anyway, some information I found using Google for the non Dutch-speaking:

http://stnicholas.kids.us/Brix?pageID=304

PS: my name is Nicolas :blush:
PS2: the explanation they gave ME for 'zwarte-piet' (black-pete) was that he's the old man's helper and that he's black because of all the coal he got on him while climbing down the chimney, trying to deliver the candy and other goodies :shrug:
In our house it was also tradition to put an empty shoe at the opening of the chimney (to put the candy in) and to leave a glass of water (for zwarte piet) and a few cubes of sugar (for St.Nic's donkey called 'schimmel'). Oh boy, growing up sucks...:sad:

Art2
12-01-2004, 02:28 PM
Heehee, GOT I've got you going now, have I?

Bajaman: nice link. Those traditions are pretty much the same here, and the explanation too for 'Piet' btw as far as I can remember.
Hmmm... he comes at a later date in Belgium... guess that's where he finishes his tour than ;)
Yeah, putting your shoe and the anticipation, that was magical wasn't it? Luckily you can still see that in the eyes of the children.

Garma
12-01-2004, 03:23 PM
PS2: the explanation they gave ME for 'zwarte-piet' (black-pete) was that he's the old man's helper and that he's black because of all the coal he got on him while climbing down the chimney, trying to deliver the candy and other goodies :shrug:


of course the real reason is that it was quite normal for white people, even the servants of the pope, to have slaves.. who were obviously black.

UnlikelyCorny
12-01-2004, 04:10 PM
Another intersting view on Santa and Saint Nicolas: http://www.restoredcog.org/questions/p062.a.html

And the origin of Pete(from this link (http://www.tilburguniversity.nl/univers/foreignaffairs/2003/0512/nicolas.html)):

"The ancestry of Black Pete is indeed less clear than that of his 'boss'. The whole tradition has its origin in Turkey. Nicolas was probably a 4th-century bishop born there - hence the red mantle, the mitre and his golden crosier - who performed many good deeds. Upon his death around December 6, myths soon sprang up about him and his fame spread to Northern Europe and families began celebrating Saint Nicolas by 'imitating' his good nature and handing out gifts. The figure of Black Pete may have been an orphan Moor (North-African) slave freed by Saint Nicolas on his travels. Or simpler, the black could merely be soot from climbing down chimneys. There is, however, also an indication that Pete does represent 'evil', and he is indeed the one to carry out the 'punishment' of naughty children. Therefore, nowadays, sometimes the issue arises whether Black Pete, with curly Afro-wig and fat reddened lips, could in fact be seen a racist figure."

The dutch are quick to say there are tolerant to different cultures and skintones, but when it comes to Pete it gets tricky. Pete comes obviousely from a pure racist idea of the black man from the point of view of a white man, but because all Dutch have such fond memories of the Saint Nicolas feast this is not quickly admitted or if admitted, just as quickly belittled. Where you'll never find such a rascist icon of a black man on products like jam, coffee, toothpaste or any other normal product anymore, it is funny to see how easily shops get filled with black faces with enormous white teeth and red lips on characters acting either as the fool or as the evil, dumb helper of the holy white man.

The bbc considers the black and white minstels performing on television a black page in their history, yet these days Holland is flooded with white kids with shoe pollish smeared all over their faces and no one considers that somewhat odd.

Its very hard to explain.

UnlikelyCorny
12-01-2004, 04:12 PM
hm, maybe I've drifted off a little from the daily sketch business. Sorry for that.

robinayles
12-01-2004, 04:24 PM
Supervlieg - Not only do I drive a vehicle other than a pickup truck, I very rarely listen to country music and when I do its only because I don't have control of the radio dial.

Yes, we've heard of Sinterklaus and St. Nicolas here in the states. In fact, its pretty obvious that Santa Claus is an Americanization of the name Sinterklaus. I'd not head of Black Pete before, that's interesting. Santa's helpers, the Elves, only help him make the toys. They don't fly with him to distribute the presents.

Here we leave out a plate of cookies and a glass of milk for Santa. Sometimes Santa will write a quick note back to the kids thanking them - that is always very exciting. Our weather reports on the news when I was a kid use to show radar screens tracking Santa's arrival and the news folks would say for us kids to hurry to bed so Santa can come and leave presents. Because everyone knows that Santa won't visit if you are awake!

Someone in England should explain Guy Fawlkes (sp?) Day and Boxing Day. I was in England a couple years ago on Boxing day and we asked everyone we met what it celebrated. Nobody seemed to know for sure, but one fellow in a pub summed it up best when he said, "its a day off work to go drinking with your mates." http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

UnlikelyCorny
12-01-2004, 05:01 PM
As far as I know:

Guy Fawkes was a Catholic who tried to blow up the english protestant parlement. He was caught and executed. The english basicly celebrate burning a catholic by organising fires all arround England.

Boxing day has, again as far as I know, a very simple explanation. The brittish have the day after xmas off and that day was always used to organise boxing matches. So that day became known as boxing day.

Anyone able to explain Halloween, thanksgiving and saint maarten to me?

Ilikesoup
12-01-2004, 05:06 PM
Someone in England should explain Guy Fawlkes (sp?) Day and Boxing Day. I was in England a couple years ago on Boxing day and we asked everyone we met what it celebrated. Nobody seemed to know for sure, but one fellow in a pub summed it up best when he said, "its a day off work to go drinking with your mates." http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon10.gifWell, you know I'm not English but my understanding is that Boxing Day is just the biggest sale day of the year, held the day after Christmas. Not fair that they can make it a holiday. :sad:
As for Guy Fawkes, I think he was a radical who tried to blow up Parliament. Don't know why he deserves a holiday, either. In the US I assume that it would be like creating John Wilkes Booth Day to honor the man who shot Abraham Lincoln.

Where's The Ton and MVP when you need them?

edit: Thanks UnlikelyCorny. You're quicker on the draw than me.:D

robinayles
12-01-2004, 05:17 PM
Well, you know I'm not English but my understanding is that Boxing Day is just the biggest sale day of the year, held the day after Christmas. Not fair that they can make it a holiday. :sad:
As for Guy Fawkes, I think he was a radical who tried to blow up Parliament. Don't know why he deserves a holiday, either. In the US I assume that it would be like creating John Wilkes Booth Day to honor the man who shot Abraham Lincoln.

Where's The Ton and MVP when you need them?

edit: Thanks UnlikelyCorny. You're quicker on the draw than me.:D
The best (most likely) explanation we got for Boxing Day is that in times past, the servants were busy tending to their masters on Christmas, so Boxing Day was their day to take time off and celebrate. Their masters would give them gifts (boxes). But another explanation was that it was the day after Christmas when people got lots of new things, so people would go through their old things and put them in boxes to be delivered to the poor.

Dunno about Guy Fawlkes...other than its sort of like our Halloween, but kids say, "A penny for the Guy" or something. Probably completely wrong...but that's how it translates across the great pond.

Ilikesoup
12-01-2004, 05:23 PM
Thanksgiving is a feast of thanks to the Native Americans who helped the Pilgrims to survive their first winter in the New World. They taught us which crops to plant and how to keep warm. Pilgrims fled England seeking religious freedom, but like most runaways they didn't plan ahead. Also, our relations with the natives haven't been too good either since then.

As for Halloween, this site explains it better than I ever could: http://www.allhallowseve.com/
We celebrate by dressing up in costumes, visiting door to door and begging for candy.

St. Martin's is an island in the Carribbean. Other than that I'm stumped.

UnlikelyCorny
12-01-2004, 05:29 PM
Boxing on boxing day, what a silly assumption. I've got to talk to a particular someone about this.

Robin Ayles, you were so right. I stand corrected.

http://home4christmas.com/ctrad1.html

Ilikesoup, thanx for the info.

El-Rodente
12-01-2004, 10:35 PM
Well, you know I'm not English but my understanding is that Boxing Day is just the biggest sale day of the year, held the day after Christmas. Not fair that they can make it a holiday.
boxing day most certainly isnt for sales, it is a bank holiday, so not even banks are open, though that tradition has been broken recently, and most 24hr shops will open for a short while on boxing day

i always figured it was a chance to clear up the mess and "boxes" after christmas, but ill ask someone in the know (probably one of my parents)

and bonfire night was (as most national holidays start) a pagan ritual before anything else, where 2 bonfires were lit, and all the cattle driven between to "purify" them, the fireworks were half-inched from china, 'cause they went with the pretty flames more than anything, and Guy Fawkes wasn't burned, he was hung drawn and quartered... so i dunno why they put him on it :S

robinayles
12-01-2004, 11:00 PM
Not only are banks closed on boxing day...so is EVERYTHING!..as my hubby and I found out one rainy and cold boxing day a couple years back. In fact, the only place we found open at all was a friendly neighborhood pub....thus the explanation about "drinking with your mates"! :)

We also found out on that same trip that Geneva is closed up tight on New Year's Day. We had a hard time finding a place to eat. The entire city seemed deserted. The streetcars were running, but there was nobody on board...kind of spooky!

In the states, there are very few holidays where EVERYTHING shuts down. I guess part of it is due to the fact that our nation is a real melting pot of cultures...AND...greedy people like to stay open and make money. YES! Capitalism at its very best, the USA! :)

GOTgraphic
12-02-2004, 12:21 AM
We celebrate by dressing up in costumes, visiting door to door and begging for candy. Last year for Holloween I gave out comic books, LOL. And this year, guess what, only one child came to our door... hahahahahaa!

Art2
12-02-2004, 12:44 AM
I wonder what kind of comicbooks...

edit: Hey guys! This is a whole page without any sketch... common! ;)

GOTgraphic
12-02-2004, 01:15 AM
I wonder what kind of comicbooks... They were special editions (made just for Holloween by Marvel and DC) of Spider-man and Archie (I think). I bought them in packs of 25 from Diamond Previews. They were geared for children 6-12.

Ilikesoup
12-02-2004, 02:05 AM
edit: Hey guys! This is a whole page without any sketch... common! ;)It's too late to save page 4, but here's a special Guy Fawkes Day message for page 5:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/ilikesoup2/G_Clinton.jpg

Now pass me summa that good Dutch weed! :D

El-Rodente
12-02-2004, 10:52 PM
tisnt called guy fawkes day

tis bonfire night :P


i should sketch more often, but been busy with my a-level art stuffs

jeroentje
12-08-2004, 08:39 PM
Damn! How could I have missed this one :cry:

@goro
ROTFLMAO... Very funny :D But I don't own a bicycle...

btw, I don't smoke weed, I like wine better than Heineken, I prefer roses to tulips, Sinterklaas did not stop at my house this year and I wear leather Italian shoes instead of wooden Dutch ones. I do live in Amsterdam, but 2 streets from the nearest canal :D

Odrakir
12-09-2004, 11:50 AM
http://www.keemz.com/uploads/keem-netherland.jpg
3:30 min Painter IX
Great pic, but I'm sorry Don Quijote (or Don Quixote) IS spanish.

And in 2005 he is makin 400 years. There's a great publicity campaing here in Spain: http://www.donquijotedelamancha2005.com/

Keem
12-09-2004, 12:44 PM
Great pic, but I'm sorry Don Quijote (or Don Quixote) IS spanish.

And in 2005 he is makin 400 years. There's a great publicity campaing here in Spain: http://www.donquijotedelamancha2005.com/

Action speak louder than words .. bring ur sketches and join the challenge

Odrakir
12-09-2004, 01:08 PM
Action speak louder than words .. bring ur sketches and join the challenge
I don't have any. No time. No sketches.

Can't I give an opinion without them?

Art2
12-09-2004, 02:02 PM
I don't have any. No time. No sketches.
Can't I give an opinion without them?
Of course you can ;) The more opinions the better.
I think Keems pic is valid, 'cos it's about someone thinking he is Don Quixote.
Or anyway you can interpret that way (also the real DQ didn't ride a motorbike :) )
I think it's a good pic, 'cos we have lots of Windmills in Holland of that kind and
mental folks are everywhere.

robinayles
12-09-2004, 08:51 PM
Its kind of funny when you consider it...Don Quixote was someone who thought he was grander than he really was...and for someone to think THEY are Don Quixote...well it kind of boggles the mind really. :)

One of my favorite side trips in Spain was to a little place with windmills and a cafe which are supposed to be of Don Quixote fame...but are probably just there for us dumb tourists. I liked it anyway. :)

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