any news on the next Photoshop?

[leigh]

Anyone that does know is under an NDA and can't say anything ;)

[peekoot]

haha.. true! :)

my guess is (although i don't really know) that they will fill in PS with new tools for freehand painting.. everything else seems perfect the way it is..

i would wish that i can edit HDR images with photoshop...

and maybe some antialias filter...

[klingspor]

I wish Adobe would add non-destructive adjustment layers just like they have in After Effects. Lately I've been doing all my compositing for still images in AE, simply because it's so convenient to use effects and color correction this way... still I'd rather do it in Photoshop because the interface is better and AE lacks many painting tools that PS has...

Somewhere I heard they'd add them in Photoshop CS, but apparently they were scrapped for some reason - maybe this time around?

[halo]

adjustment layers in PS are non destructive....fx such as filters however aren't...but bear in mind the average AE image is likely to be PAL/NTSC size...my average PS document is normally at least 4k, so any on the fly filters would really slow it down, especially when i'm already chewing up several gB of scratch space as it is.

[klingspor]

If your PC is too slow or the image dimensions are too large I can see that applying non-destructive adjustment layers for plugin effects is probably a bad idea... but then again, they're only an option that's enabled by the user's choice, they're not on by default. So if you don't want them... don't use them!
There are many other funtions in PS that apply only to a very select set of users and won't be touched by the majority.

I for one rarely work in print resolutions, so these kind of layers would be truely useful to me. Especially when working with clients, it would be nice to show changes on-the-fly, without having to save out several versions simply to illustrate variations of an effect.

[Skjoldbroder]

Anyone that does know is under an NDA and can't say anything ;)
i wasn't curious before. thanks a lot Leigh =)

[halo]

stephan, its not slow, its the limit of the OS...processor speed means not so much when your out of ram ...2-3gb is your ram roof on any OS based on 32 bit which ps runs on...bear in mind that on average i'm sitting at 6gb of scratch and regularly go over 10gb and that now PS is capable of working on doc sizes in excess of 32k it doesnt add up to a feature that is going to apply to the vast majority of users...for web sized stuff, AE does the job like you say, and yes it would be nice for you to do it in PS, but AE works mainly on a 1:1 view ratio, so you can get a preview quickly (and sometimes not, hence ram preview)...for that to happen with PS files you have to remember that you would could be jumping up to 200% or more on a regular basis, loading up any machine.

fwiw, adobe engineers have said this wont be implemented anyway because the way in which filters and certain adjustments work in PS is fundamentally different from that in AE...(just checked)

[klingspor]

stephan, its not slow, its the limit of the OS...processor speed means not so much when your out of ram ...2-3gb is your ram roof on any OS based on 32 bit which ps runs on...bear in mind that on average i'm sitting at 6gb of scratch and regularly go over 10gb and that now PS is capable of working on doc sizes in excess of 32k it doesnt add up to a feature that is going to apply to the vast majority of users...for web sized stuff, AE does the job like you say, and yes it would be nice for you to do it in PS, but AE works mainly on a 1:1 view ratio, so you can get a preview quickly (and sometimes not, hence ram preview)...for that to happen with PS files you have to remember that you would could be jumping up to 200% or more on a regular basis, loading up any machine. If a certain person's machine can't handle it then he should make do with the current way of working. Same as with any other feature, no? Maybe Photoshop could issue a little warning before applying such a layer to an unreasonably sized document.

Still I believe that many people, especially web-designers and people working on TV-size footage would love such a feature. It wouldn't even have to support all plug-ins, just basic ones like the often used blur and sharpen would be fine with me.

fwiw, adobe engineers have said this wont be implemented anyway because the way in which filters and certain adjustments work in PS is fundamentally different from that in AE...(just checked)Obviously I'm not the one to speak with authority on the issue, but frankly I doubt it's all that different... after all Photoshop plug-ins worked fine in After Effects until recently, so the differences should not be unsurmountable.

[halo]

Still I believe that many people, especially web-designers and people working on TV-size footage would love such a feature. It wouldn't even have to support all plug-ins, just basic ones like the often used blur and sharpen would be fine with me.

which is exactly why AE and PS exists...ones for movement, one isnt. :D

Obviously I'm not the one to speak with authority on the issue, but frankly I doubt it's all that different... after all Photoshop plug-ins worked fine in After Effects until recently, so the differences should not be unsurmountable.

until recently perhaps may be the key, dunno...the thread discussing it at adobe forums has been deleted but i'm sure if you pop over chris cox may give you the explanation again.

feature requests are pointless here...seriously, make them at the adobe forums.

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