Grand Space Opera 3D Entry: kostandinos yiatilis

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1102052868_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1102052868_large.jpg)

this is the alien consept

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1102053000_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1102053000_large.jpg)

another consept

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1102053113_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1102053113_large.jpg)

concept

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1102053200_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1102053200_large.jpg)

concept

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1102053319_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1102053319_large.jpg)

these are concept art sketches for my project. the final image will be composed by lots of images with one main scene.
i will post more stuff. send in comments their not just welcome, their necessary !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kostas for u guys

(hello to aris ,lefti,alexis,andreas,timon, kaleas and all my other friends)
)

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1102110088_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1102110088_large.jpg)

hi guys1 This is an update to the previous concept of the alien mothership, which is supposed to be built on a dead space monster carcass. modelled in max like the alien of the previous post

[Gunilla]

Wow- you're off for a flying start! Wonderful ship model - really good. :thumbsup:

[Daniel-McMillan]

kostandinos yiatilis has updated his Alien Mothership!


Nice job kotsos!!! It has a very unique presence with that deep sea creature shock factor when you first lay eyes upon it.


-DM

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Yup..u did come with an impressive entry man....Oreos Character kai Ship...:thumbsup:

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1102274641_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1102274641_large.jpg)

The details on the alien

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1102274915_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1102274915_large.jpg)

Concept on the human mothership that will feature in the final image

[arturro]

great beginning man! your sketches are very good. First models also rock:eek:

what to say, I'm waiting to see more:twisted:

[koyimaold]

Thanx guys,

i'll try to keep up the good work, i'll post more concepts, models n stuff so pop in for updates. (Efxaristo se olous tous patriotes).

Thanx again

My site will be up soon featuring work of my own and my friends

[terraarc]

Pretty smooth start neighbour! :thumbsup:
I like alot your concepts and the alien model start looks great and promising!
The mothership model so far is great too!

I would like to see some sketch on your vision of the final composition! :)

Kalh arxh!
:beer:

[Lelantos]

wraia douleia kalo xekinima . Imprassive concepts design really unique spaceship i love it good job :buttrock:

will be checking for more:thumbsup:

[ixor]

The sketches are pretty good. But i also would like a sketch of the final composition. Good luck!!

[yperfikos]

Man, that's some good work... Keep it up dude... (Kammene...)

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1102892613_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1102892613_large.jpg)

concept of the priest alien

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103556938_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103556938_large.jpg)

This is the model for the human hero . no textures just lighting. U probably need to crank up the brightness of your screen.

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103557037_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103557037_large.jpg)

The gun from a side view

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103557149_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103557149_large.jpg)

Just showing it from a differnt angle

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103557324_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103557324_large.jpg)

Just a lighting test. He doesn\\\'t even have hands yet.

[Roadrunner4D]

Uuuh, I like those glowing things (the spikes and the cables)! The modelling is also very well! Only the Head of the guy looks a bit strange. Maybe you should make his cheeks a bit wider. I hope the textures will be as great as the modelling, with rusty metal look! Good job so far...

Roadrunner

Edit: Now I see the last Pic! With this lighting I see it's you should make a wider chin instead of wider cheeks...

[patina]

Hi kotsos

Nice modeling and design an imteresting concept, although I would show more of the making of,

all the models, as they like to see how you make everything rather than the finished object.


nice work!

paul p patina!



http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/grandspaceopera/view_entries.php?challenger=5288

[monsitj]

nice modeling! i like the gun ,it's unique! but i agree that the head is a bit strange , maybe u r working on it , good luck!

[koyimaold]

i went for a more stylised look on the central hero (than my concept i mean, i got rid of the more clunky look)The other humans will have similar suits, but their faces won't be visible.
i also modelled the gun.

i have a problem with my internet connection so i can't update as often as i would like to...

keep posting, as always i "demand" your comments

[arturro]

man! this guy is wonderful. I like hos style. It looks so massive and strong. I only don't like the connection of arms and torso. I'm waiting for next udpates! great job!

[koyimaold]

thanx for the comments guys...

everything is work in progress, but the head is modelled after my own photo i'll send a close-up render when i can... (that's how my cheek bones r, non-existent). this isn't my pc so i only have what i was intending to post...

thanx again

[koyimaold]

Re: to Patina

i'll bring wireframes (smoothed and non-smoothed) next time, probably the day after tomorrow... (plus i keep all my models in stages so anybody can check that my work is mine)

if i had max installed on this pc i would send them right away.

on second thought i might be able to update from another friend's pc in about 3 hours so check in i might have updated (he is also into cg so he has max installed) and i have my models in the cd with the posts (as i said earlier: i have no net (bouhouhou))

i'll be waiting for comments on the wires n stuff

bye

[neble]

I like the gun, but the suit looks like a very soft rubber, especially in the upper legs. The face has nice promise.

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103646364_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103646364_large.jpg)

This is a wire

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103646775_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103646775_large.jpg)

Another wire

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103646962_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103646962_large.jpg)

Another one

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103647175_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103647175_large.jpg)

Cos i had some comments on the face this is how it looks close up and it looks just like me (whatever that may mean to u)

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103647279_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103647279_large.jpg)

just another one

[koyimaold]

Hi guys,

just an update on some things.

I know the thigh on the char looks kinda strange, it's because it's a copy of the forearm...
so till i fix it...

i want
sorry
i need
comments comments comments

thanx

[koyimaold]

Plus everything has no textures on them (except the face, it's from another project of mine)

It's just a blinn shader with cranked up highlights, that's how it should look...
it won't look like that in the end cos i'm going to texture

[koyimaold]

OK guys yesterday i was lookin around in the forum and i discovered that i have to help u guys, send tips and techniques and stuff in general. i didn't know. sorry

so from tomorrow u are getting the storyline finished concept of the whole scene (not just chars n stuff). and techniques that i use for modelling

sorry i didn't know (it's my first challenge) so i'll start with modelling

how do i model:

at first is the concept (i change it if i see it sucks)draw rough sketches, lots of them especially for characters it's a huge plus, when u r familiar with the character you can model him on the fly. i noticed that most of my friends who can't sketch as easily as i, can't model characters or have enormous difficulty, so start sketching. (another tip don't model your own face it becomes obssesive you are never happy with the way it looks and everybody u know says it looks like someone else and everybody that doesn't know you says it looks just like u)
plus i also find that anatomically incorrect models can collect more WOWs than anatomically correct ones. huge deltoids and non existent waists for example might seem like something out of a comic, but they add extra WOW-iness to your superhuman create - ures (creatures sounds kinda bliach).
i start with a primitive (usually a box, cylinders for chest, arms and legs),then i convert to editable poly and use symmetry,shell and turbosmooth.deleting polys, extruding edges creating shapes in general is easy cos u have show end result on, thus u see what u r modelling (or what max is modelling for u). armor plates and machinery can be modelled in seconds. also use vertex weights and edge creease saves modelling time. chamfer stuff or use chamfer cylinders and boxes (extended primitives) u will see a huge difference when that narrow highlights appears on the edgez of a model.

i make the base shape for the gun (example) then i duplicate or detach pieces giving them other shapes depending on the concept. after the main modl is finished i add different details with primitives ,copying, resizing, multiple copies (previously i modelled everything attached, you know shapes and stuff by extruding the base model i discovered that in mechanical modelling this is stupid since it takes too much time for a small amount of detail)

then i make things like wires and hozes (the line tool in max is the best for this) u just turn on render mesh in the modify panel.try to make them attach to things like small cylinders so they look as part of the model.

detailing, another trick is using the lattice modifier on either a clone or parts of the object this makes missing panels and panelling in general a piece of cake
for armor, reusing the parts that u have already modelled is a quick shortcut, especially if u want more than one set of suits.
another trick is random extrudes (i use a script from blur studios (thanx guys))
and i use advance painter (another script) for painting on thing like vines

i also use z brush, the only problem with zbrush is that it exports to maya and the geometry from the import to max is problematic, it doesn't soft-select correctly and generally doesn't behave as i want it to. so i use it for objects i know will be staticn (non0deformable)
zbrush can give good detailing on character wounds, scars, wrinckles and generally bumps.
the arm in the alien model is modelled in zbrush

also a technique i started using some months ago for stills, is to texture in photoshop straight on the final image, thus avoiding the painfull process of uvmapping for one still
dirt and most of th imperfections surfaces have can be added in post (the only problem is when u r dealing with reflections). the alien is a composite of a clay render (a render with only a skylight and gi enabled), a scanline render with one light and texturing in photoshop (just 2 minutes in photoshop) plus a duplicate of the whole image with a wave/riplle filter.

shading: falloff is one of the maps i use more frequently, u can do alsorts of cool stuff like fading edges, glowing insides(like subsurface but a fake).

another thing on modelling characters flowlines and quads is the basic idea. u stick to quads till they interupt the flowlines. what i mean is don't get obsessed with quads stick to the flowlines. plus for hi-res modelling insert geometry for wrinkles and places where the skinoverlaps, u will see a differnce when u skin the model and use the skin-morph modifier in max 7 where u can make wrinkles that show when the arm bends when the fingers bend, even veins and stuff.

i'm currently working on my my BA research on muscle simulation once it's finished i'll upload it to my site(which is under construction as u might of noticed, since i don't have net and we are making it with a friend of mine (ARIS, aka brutus,aka gray)and it will host some other friends to ( if u are interested mail me)). in my research i explain ways of simulating muscle movement and things like vein and wrinkle protrusion(thus the correct modelling of them).

ok this is all for now, i'll check in tomorrow (as u know i don't have net at home)
so bye

and i am waiting for comments on this mini tutorial

[terraarc]

Hey Kwsta! I really found helpful your looong explanation! :thumbsup:

I'm more of the "Everything on 3D" school...but for such needs and deadline would be a nice idea....

Also your work is progressing really well! Nice to meet your face by the way! Agree with neble for the upper foot of the suit. The gun looks quite interesting....

Waiting for some more....:)

[koyimaold]

hi guys

@ terrarc :thanx for the encouraging words terraarc.

i was planning on posting some more work today but i had to go to work earlier so didn't have a chance to write a cd with stuff.

so in a couple of hours i'm going to post in the story (i'll have to rewrite it)

so check in later
thanx guys:wavey:

greetings to all my friends: brutus, yperfikos n the rest:thumbsup:

[koyimaold]

The image i'm making is based on a love story.

OK this guy goes to get his girl from the disgusting alien scum that have a space ship built on the carcass of a dead space monster. the civilizations of the Humans and the Dreaal come into conflict near the planet of Gresmo876. While the hero of the humans tries to get his girlfriend the human marines get into a fight with Dreall Commandos. Mechs and warriors fight stinkin aliens. While all this crap is happening the hero's girlfriend get's shot. She dies in his arms, in the middle of a Human Meta-Marine Squad fighting to protect their leader. In his anger he unleashes an Extreme Surge of Power known as the Sword of Justice. Cleansweeps all scum, but has lost his true love. That was quick

My image-story is titled: "Battle for Lost Love"

So the posting of the finished concept is going to wait for tomorrow... sorry unexpected events.

[KennyM]

I like your modeling style, looks like a tough character.
excellent gun you made too :thumbsup:

are you going for details on the armour?
texture or geometry? atm it looks a bit empty, but that's probably cause it's still untextured.

keep it up, you're doing great:)

[koyimaold]

@ kennym: thanx man, i'm still modelling i have added detail, but i will update tomorrow cos i don't have it here.check in for updates

a nai kai oloi oi ellines kante search gia liatos, kazanis, mike, spiro einai kai aftoi (profanos) ellines tou cgtalk me Grand Space Opera entries

[ixor]

Hello kostos.
Your modeling is great!! [i would love to draw like you(kai skase)]
Can't wait to see your final image. The mech is GREAT!!
Is the girldfriend called artemis? Because you are the hero so duuuuuhhhh the girl is artemis
xixixixixi.
Anyhow you are going great!
Please see also http://www.threedy.com/site/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=277917
its the space marine i continued modeling.
Also POST something (preferably something good).
Pame gia kafe simera paraskeui?
CANT WAIT TO SEE YOUR COMPOSITION SKETCH!!
arxidi your drawings are awesome. :beer:

[Aethyrprime]

Excellent gun man. Well done!

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103884482_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103884482_large.jpg)

This is the final composition in sketch form although i\'m trying to fit in the alien priest and some soldiers on some flying base thingy.PLus the Human Squad will have more members and scattered dead aliens, i was just to bored to sketch'em

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103884834_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1103884834_large.jpg)

I added more detail to the suit. Hope everyone likes it.

[Micro26]

very good kotso! keep it up and cant wait to see them textured
dosta ola file :thumbsup:

[koyimaold]

Hi guys:buttrock:

This is an update on things i said i would post.
Now the concept sketch: in the final image there will be more ships, more troopers, more aliens,plus i'm trying to fit in a flying base thingy with alien prists and soldiers.

If i have time i might design a human craft attacking the fish-ships(not fish-sticks).
i don't know we'll see...:shrug:

@ Mr micro26: efxaristo, i will do what i can, i will try hard:thumbsup:

Guys i also entered the 2d Opera Challenge, so i'll be postin a completely new concept for that one on monday....

cheers :bounce:

buy

[YasushAzush]

very well style
good detail:) :thumbsup:

[monsitj]

great update like promise! i like your marine , sharp blade from armor make it look unique !! good luck and merryXmas,

[adel3d]

Exelllent modeling:
I really liked your work.Hope to see the textured versioin and the final work!:)

[PavelPetrenko]

Very nice!:)

[terraarc]

Nice updates here Kwsta! :thumbsup:

Only thing that kind of bugs me is the upper leg parts....they don't seem to solid...:shrug:

Have a MERRY CHRISTMAS...(kind of late but....)

KALA XRISTOUGENNA oti epi8umeis.....:)

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104151474_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104151474_large.jpg)

just two chamfer cylinders at the moment

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104152936_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104152936_large.jpg)

after a few \"shift+moves\" it gets a little compl..icated

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104153186_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104153186_large.jpg)

after a few \"shift+moves\" it gets a little compl..icated

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104153676_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104153676_large.jpg)

another view

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104154851_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104154851_large.jpg)

just a wire from above

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104155999_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104155999_large.jpg)

Adding Wires and stuff. Getting more detail.Starting Front blades

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104156583_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104156583_large.jpg)

Just a sketch of the rocket launcher i'm currently modelling.....

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104156883_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104156883_large.jpg)

Finished the blades. Side view

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104157132_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104157132_large.jpg)

Some doodles

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104158075_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104158075_large.jpg)

A detail view

[mmoir]

Kostos,
You have some nice models here , looks like you are off to a good start. The hero guy looks unstoppable,great stuff.
Mike

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104159469_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104159469_large.jpg)

Some more modelling

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104159645_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104159645_large.jpg)

The helmet with my head in it

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104159859_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104159859_large.jpg)

This is a simple sketch of the princess. I decided she will feature as part of the power surge (sword of justice), so i'm going to start modelling her in a couple of days.

[koyimaold]

Hi guys and Merry Christmas(although a bit late)

Hope you like my progress on the rocket launcher, i'm going to post a rendition with both the gun and the rocket launcher.

Now i'm working on the Hero model changing it a bit to make the rest of the marines.

Plus i've posted in an early concept on the princess, i'm also going to use her in the beam of energy coming from the hero, we'll see.

Hi to Terrarc,Lefti,Liatsos,Brutus,Yperfikos kai olous tous ypoloipous

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104161141_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104161141_large.jpg)

A clay render

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104161432_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104161432_large.jpg)

Another update

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104163804_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104163804_large.jpg)

Just a test. Clay and normal light with some dirt.

[blackdragoncg]

Awsome work dude! I really like your style man. sorry to hear about the lack of internet! Sucks huh! I have been there dude! I have net now but it's dial up and painfully slow to browse through these forums with all the pictures to load etc..Almost as slow as my rendering! LOL!

Anyway dude good luck with your work! not that you need it you got talent dude!
Regards Gary.

My thread http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=191177&highlight=Gary+Picton

My Site http://free.hostdepartment.com/b/blackdragoncg/index.htm

[yperfikos]

Once more I have to admit that your work is pretty stunning... Keep it up!!! (skeftikes na kaneis 3d gia tainies... haha!!!)

Timon - Kammenos

[koyimaold]

i alithia ine oti voithao kati kammenous me mia parodia tou matrix

thanx for the encouraging words

i will kill the "brave little castle"

greetings to "honest emerald"

@ blackdragoncg: thanx, i'll do my best, i saw your work(crits in your thread...)

bye
i'm coming back with an update

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104167212_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104167212_large.jpg)

Reflective suits... Kitch maybe not, i think on this guy it looks kinda good... what does anybody have to say... that means crits lots o crits

[koyimaold]

So what do you think about this guy?

Guys that are watching as guests subscribe and critisize that's what we want, yeah we are all mazohists.(ATTENTION:NOT SADISTS)

So everybody C&Cs Please... (Yeah bring the wip, i don't know if i spelt it correctly)

I'm waiting, it's what pushes me forward...

[DimitrisLiatsos]

He has very good modeling so..i think that u should make him a little more visible so we can see the details on him....he looks like he is ready to kick butt.....he just needs to be more rela like .. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :bounce:

[YasushAzush]

Perfect...
:D damn cooll men welldone......
reminde me a modern batman:scream:

[koyimaold]

Thanx for the crits

@ DimitrisLiatsos: Yeah, it could be more real like, it was just a fully reflective material,
i haven't used GI on him except for a couple of clay-renders and i haven't textured him, so i still have stuff to do. i will also do a lot of texturing str8 on to the final image (you can see a previous post i have 3 minutes in photoshop and u get bullet holes and some dirt) plus i'm going to composite lots of passes to get final results, which i want to be more fantasy like.Now if you mean life like in proportions and stuff, i think the work i will do on the princess will showcase my anatomy and real life modelling, i just want these guys to look like there from somewhere like Warhammer 40k or something epic knight style maybe even metallic horses-bikes, like the one u have, but with a jet turbo engine.... hovering and stuff. E ti les? Avrio tha kano kai alla updates, ektos kai an argiso poli apopse, ehm ehm... a nai k to kranos moiazei ligo me to diko sou, sorry(fainetai to kato meros tou prosopou tou)kai mou arese pou vazeis @ gia na deikseis se poion milas... psagmeno

@ visualact.com: thanx man, yeah he has that dark mean kick ass warrior knight thingy, we'll see what happens...

[cgkrusty]

Howdy...

While he looks cool with that shader on him I'd caution you on getting too enamoured with this one chracter and especially, one material shader.

Think of your scene, the context of it and how these characters fit into the overall scene. If you loose that focus your final image will loose focus as well.

Still... he does look cool..

Nice work so far!

[DimitrisLiatsos]

:bounce: ...his proportions since u go for the Warhammer look are ok...i was just reffering to the texturing...but i think u are in a good road with him...i 'll be back (my Favourite Arnold Swageneger line.. :scream: )

[koyimaold]

Today was kind of a crap day for me i didn't work on my Grand Space Opera, cos i had to help some friends of mine with a movie their making, a parody of matrix called: "faketrix: retarded"

i made i cool matrix style ship for them and a sentinel tentacle and now they want me to make (now read carefully) -bathtubs-. huh? what? adaaa...

ok it's a parody...

@DimitrisLiatsos: u didn't tell me about the horse-bike turbo hovering stuff...

well when it's finished i'll post the www address....

ok buy guys

see ya tomorrow with updates

[ixor]

The reflective soldier is GREAT!! Just light the face so we can see all the details. Awesome work keep it up. I moni aporia pou exo einai pote tha prolaveis na kaneis to ba sou.

[terraarc]

Hello kotso! :)

The soldier looks awsome, but needs some less reflection to show off the model (as most of the guys here already mentioned...)

faketrix:retarded......hmmmmmm ( or better like Neo in Matrix's first movie said...."whoooouuu!") :thumbsup:


Keep them coming Kwsta!:)

[koyimaold]

Thanx guys for the crits

@terraarc: yeah the reflective material was just a crap thing i did to see what i would get out of it, i just posted it cos i thought (still think) he looks quite dark and cool and dark and cool...

@cgkrusty: sorry man i didn't see your post (what a lame excuse), well if you look at my previous posts you will see that i don't use a reflective shader, i just posted it cos i think it looked quite cool.... anyways my concept design features several of these soldiers so i want them to look cool individually to make the whole composition stronger... i'll post a clay-render with an approximation of their final positioning in the image... it looks kinda like marble decorations on temples... i'll have to post to show u what i mean...

probably friday, i'm working late and i don't have 3dsmax here (it would be quite slow on this machine)

thanx guys and i am not going to use the full reflective shader-material in the final composition

anyways goodbye for now, i might post some helpers, if anyone wants them

[koyimaold]

Bye for tonight

No posts i feel guilty or something
i was reading a debate on film vs HD vs DV
sorry guys i'll make up for it tomorrow

bye again

Everybody Grand Space Opera.....yeahhh

[ixor]

Can wait to see something new!!
The time is near. You have 20 days left so hurry up!!
I hope you get a lot of votes I will surely vote for you.
Cant wait to see something new.
HURRY UP!

tha erthei telika protoxronia spiti mou?
i artemis eipe oti mallon tha erthei.. :applause:

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104422001_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104422001_large.jpg)

This a tset to show where i'm heading with the bottom part of my scene...

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104422528_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104422528_large.jpg)

These are two guys featuring in my entry. This is their placement, but from a different angle. Check previous post to get a better idea...

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104422698_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104422698_large.jpg)

These are the same two guys as in the previous post, but covered in vines. Like they where statues...

[mireneye]

OK guys yesterday i was lookin around in the forum and i discovered that i have to help u guys, send tips and techniques and stuff in general. i didn't know. sorry

so from tomorrow u are getting the storyline finished concept of the whole scene (not just chars n stuff). and techniques that i use for modelling

sorry i didn't know (it's my first challenge) so i'll start with modelling

how do i model:

at first is the concept (i change it if i see it sucks)draw rough sketches, lots of them especially for characters it's a huge plus, when u r familiar with the character you can model him on the fly. i noticed that most of my friends who can't sketch as easily as i, can't model characters or have enormous difficulty, so start sketching. (another tip don't model your own face it becomes obssesive you are never happy with the way it looks and everybody u know says it looks like someone else and everybody that doesn't know you says it looks just like u)
plus i also find that anatomically incorrect models can collect more WOWs than anatomically correct ones. huge deltoids and non existent waists for example might seem like something out of a comic, but they add extra WOW-iness to your superhuman create - ures (creatures sounds kinda bliach).
i start with a primitive (usually a box, cylinders for chest, arms and legs),then i convert to editable poly and use symmetry,shell and turbosmooth.deleting polys, extruding edges creating shapes in general is easy cos u have show end result on, thus u see what u r modelling (or what max is modelling for u). armor plates and machinery can be modelled in seconds. also use vertex weights and edge creease saves modelling time. chamfer stuff or use chamfer cylinders and boxes (extended primitives) u will see a huge difference when that narrow highlights appears on the edgez of a model.

i make the base shape for the gun (example) then i duplicate or detach pieces giving them other shapes depending on the concept. after the main modl is finished i add different details with primitives ,copying, resizing, multiple copies (previously i modelled everything attached, you know shapes and stuff by extruding the base model i discovered that in mechanical modelling this is stupid since it takes too much time for a small amount of detail)

then i make things like wires and hozes (the line tool in max is the best for this) u just turn on render mesh in the modify panel.try to make them attach to things like small cylinders so they look as part of the model.

detailing, another trick is using the lattice modifier on either a clone or parts of the object this makes missing panels and panelling in general a piece of cake
for armor, reusing the parts that u have already modelled is a quick shortcut, especially if u want more than one set of suits.
another trick is random extrudes (i use a script from blur studios (thanx guys))
and i use advance painter (another script) for painting on thing like vines

i also use z brush, the only problem with zbrush is that it exports to maya and the geometry from the import to max is problematic, it doesn't soft-select correctly and generally doesn't behave as i want it to. so i use it for objects i know will be staticn (non0deformable)
zbrush can give good detailing on character wounds, scars, wrinckles and generally bumps.
the arm in the alien model is modelled in zbrush

also a technique i started using some months ago for stills, is to texture in photoshop straight on the final image, thus avoiding the painfull process of uvmapping for one still
dirt and most of th imperfections surfaces have can be added in post (the only problem is when u r dealing with reflections). the alien is a composite of a clay render (a render with only a skylight and gi enabled), a scanline render with one light and texturing in photoshop (just 2 minutes in photoshop) plus a duplicate of the whole image with a wave/riplle filter.

shading: falloff is one of the maps i use more frequently, u can do alsorts of cool stuff like fading edges, glowing insides(like subsurface but a fake).

another thing on modelling characters flowlines and quads is the basic idea. u stick to quads till they interupt the flowlines. what i mean is don't get obsessed with quads stick to the flowlines. plus for hi-res modelling insert geometry for wrinkles and places where the skinoverlaps, u will see a differnce when u skin the model and use the skin-morph modifier in max 7 where u can make wrinkles that show when the arm bends when the fingers bend, even veins and stuff.

i'm currently working on my my BA research on muscle simulation once it's finished i'll upload it to my site(which is under construction as u might of noticed, since i don't have net and we are making it with a friend of mine (ARIS, aka brutus,aka gray)and it will host some other friends to ( if u are interested mail me)). in my research i explain ways of simulating muscle movement and things like vein and wrinkle protrusion(thus the correct modelling of them).

ok this is all for now, i'll check in tomorrow (as u know i don't have net at home)
so bye

and i am waiting for comments on this mini tutorial
I like some of the tips alot. Thanks, it will probably help me out. Hope it goes well for you in the competition, It seems it will.

All the best.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104422698_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104422698_large.jpg)

These are the same two guys as in the previous post, but covered in vines. Like they where statues...



This is tottaly beautifull ;)


i like your models very much man! ...and they do have kick a$$ guns!

[DimitrisLiatsos]

u didn't tell me about the horse-bike turbo hovering stuff.. ...

which one is that?..i went over all your posts :argh:

[koyimaold]

Hi guys

@Dimitris Liatsos: Thanx man. I just like to do that with the vines. I did it once to test the idea so now whenever i have a clay render (gi that is) i go cover it with vines. The sky matte is made out of 2-3 photos with different blending modes and some color adjustment...Plus the soldier on the left has a simple dirt layer with multiply on it...

@mireneye: i hope other people like it, but you didn't need to post the whole thing again.anyways thanx...

@ixor: these r the updates i told u about, tomorrow comes a new lot, more detail more soldiers and probably a test of the sky with ships... we'll see...

buy i'll post soon

yeah: donate to the asians, what a disaster, it makes me sick that they don't have money for an alert system, but we don't have one in greece...

[koyimaold]

@DimitrisLiatsos: perimene na to vro

[koyimaold]

@DimiLiatsos: i'' make a hover bike over the weekend just for you....
ok?....

@ixor:tha erthoume kai se esena kai mallonm tha pame kai se kati filous tis artemis

ok bye for a second

[niki]

I like your work .. the concept is really great

[koyimaold]

Huh a girl in cgtalk, i didn't know girls where in to this stuff, cool

I go to an animation school in Greece, in the first year we had 4 women in our class, 2 year 1 woman, third year still 1.... my girlfriend hates pcs

@niki: i think it's cool that u like my stuff thanx

@everybody: do u know other girls that dig cg?

ok maybe you are not a girl but nevermind don't spoil it for me

thanx for the crits (not crits more like congrats...)

i love it when people dig what i do
it makes me feel like i can do more and more and more and more

[ixor]

The fun composite is awesome!!
You should put a couple of statues in the background like these guys.
You know for extra detail. :beer:
Ti ora tha erthete se mas kai ti ora tha pate sta ksadelfia tis?
Keep it UP man!

[ihamid]

just saw ur models! they are awesome :thumbsup:!

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104495733_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104495733_large.jpg)

This is a mini tutorial on what i diid to make the previous image. The layers where composited in photoshop...

[Dutchman]

You modelling is awesome! Also your explanetion of your workflow is very interesting...! The way you detail stuff etc... Just very cool! And: reaaaaly interesting and nice mini-tut!

also a technique i started using some months ago for stills, is to texture in photoshop straight on the final image, thus avoiding the painfull process of uvmapping for one still
I've also been thinking of this way of texturing last times...:shrug: :) To me its also sad to have to UVmap etc a complete scene, júst for one pic! For sure because you have to take care of the mapping right while your modelling... (modelling every minor detail is very fun, but not if you have to map and so on, every detail...:shrug:) Now I'm thinking of rendering a clay after all modelling and painting on it in PS; save it and project it as a planar map ón my scene, and tweak the specular etc, and thén render the final... :) Would work lots more artist-friendly :arteest: and lots less techically :)

Good luck & happy newyear :) ,

Gijs

[YasushAzush]

Nice.......happy new year

[artemesia66]

Wow. How did I miss this thread before? (ok, there are like 1200 of them). Great stuff. Your concepts are really inventive, and your modelling is great. I'll be watching this thread from now on. :) Also, thanks for your detailed explanations about your process--they're very helpful. :thumbsup:

[koyimaold]

Hi everybody have a HAPPY NEW YEAR
Hope you like my mini tutorial and explanations (page 7)

@Artemisia66: thanx for your kind words: happy new year

@visualact.com: thanx man: happy new year

@ixor:happy new year

@DimLiatsos: Happy new year

@terraarc: happy new year

Happy new year se olous ahahahaha

[ixor]

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Sorry for the lame new year kotsos. :banghead:
Can't WAIT to see something NEW!!

[blackdragoncg]

Dude your work is Awsome!!!:thumbsup: I don't have any crits just looking forward to seeing your final image :bounce:

[koyimaold]

Hi everybody,

What's up? Hope you all had a nice time at new year! I had quite a good time, well with some delays if i could call that...

Well updates...
I've started working on the princess as the following screenshot shows, but the main thing is that my site is finally up here... check it out... if i see some hits i will get the paid hosting servive so i can put up my showreel...

anyways i made the hand for the marines but there isn't much point in posting it...

tomorrow i'll post a half finished turbo bike for my friend dim liatsos...

plus i got word from artemisia66 that there are other girls on cgtalk.....

what can i say

a question to everybody: who thinks a "muscle simulation in max" research that i am doing for my ba will be interesting....

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104869182_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1104869182_large.jpg)

Just started modelling the princess, just a screengrab.

[koyimaold]

Hey no crits...

what if i don't ask for them i don't get em, isn't that a waste of crit space
anyways at least i got a decent number of views since i posted so i understand that there might not be any crits (yeah sure)

got bored of the challenge... wait till the weekend i'll get u all fired up, just cos i'm working doesn't mean u'll get rid of me...

wait and see (and then crit)

anyways nothing new, was ....to... ....tired... ...to... ...pick... ...up... ...mouse... uh..h..u..

just posted to say hi

so HI EVERYBODY....

[niki]

she looks nice so far ..but I have to say I don't like her breast ..
keep it up!

[koyimaold]

thanx for the crits

yeah her boobs are quite strange like plastic(silicone taht is) ones, ill have to ask my girlfriend to model for me to get the shape right, lots of sketches lots of time with her naked, i don't know how long i will last

anyways (nikki:more via private message)

i think it will turn out quite good, i have made a sketch of her on previous posts(check them out)\ (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=189254&page=5&pp=15)

we'll see

tahnx again

[niki]

ill have to ask my girlfriend to model for me to get the shape right, lots of sketches lots of time with her naked, i don't know how long i will last

ehehehh ... however .. you can use the breast of ur gf as reference ..(or check pix out ..!!)

[koyimaold]

I hate when i have nothing to post

@niki: i'll do my best, i just don't know how lon i will last...

@every1: the challenge is going pretty well impressive entries hope i get mine finished in time

time is running....

see ya

[DimitrisLiatsos]

.... i'll do my best, i just don't know how lon i will last...

@every1: the challenge is going pretty well impressive entries hope i get mine finished in time

time is running....

see ya


..don't do your best man...do what u have to do!...and fast now :) ;) ;)
(Etsi gia na empsixonomaste ligaki! ) :bounce:

[koyimaold]

@dimliatsos: i will do what i must, i will do it quick, i will do it good

i will not fail you(yeah sure)

@every1:aaaaaaarghhhh

[PeterSanitra]

You have very good ideas and concept background, but still lot of work to do.
But i don`t like the vine layer much, it`s killing all detail under it.

[koyimaold]

@darkone: vine layer is just for fluff, final image won't be like that, i just wanted to show people the possibilities of post render texturing.... and element adding, pretty usefull for stills

see ya guys

[sinaris]

:twisted::twisted::twisted:soon/very soon:twisted::twisted::twisted:

[koyimaold]

Aris don't get my thread full of crap

Jesus! Smiley things everywere i want people to se my work not smileys

Skouliki. De tha kaneis thread esi tha deis

@Every1: Hi every1

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105094551_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105094551_large.jpg)

Basically improved the breasts...

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105094725_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105094725_large.jpg)

The same as the previous but without the wire

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105094848_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105094848_large.jpg)

A view from the front (3/4 front that is)

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105095107_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105095107_large.jpg)

I also finished the arms and hands but didn\'t bring a render with me.(damn)

[koyimaold]

requesting crits

does everybody think the breasts are ok (perfectly shaped i would add)?

do u see her as ur fantasy girl?

anyways any kind of crits are welcome...

[niki]

well ..the breast is better than before but I think that you should enlarge it just a little bit, there is too much space among the breasts ..
keep it up!

[arturro]

The breasts themselve are ok, but in compersion to the chest they seem too small. But not too much. And should be a little but closer to each other. But the shape is realy good.

[koyimaold]

Yeah i had them bigger but every1 critted on (friends out of cgtalk) that they were quite big
anyways i'll post more in a while
making the shape is difficult making them bigger is a piece of cake

@niki: yes maybe you're right, a bit closer will probably do the trick
@arturo: i made a female once with huge knockers, pretty funny, till mu dad saw it and told me i had wrong ideas about female anatomy and what is beautifull, but slightly bigger won't harm anyone....

anyways thanx and every1 who has an opinioncan post it, crits are always welcome

[PeterSanitra]

i think that the breast big enough,maybe too big. All the guys just say: BIGGER!! BIGGER!!:-)
I would make it smaller. look for Niki`s avatar for reference:thumbsup:

I think that topology of the mesh is not great. The lines should copy the natural shape of body. No parabola, hyberbolas around the legs. it looks like you just pull the vertex, because it wasn`t low enough:-) but if the model will look ok, and you will not animate it, to hell with topology.

[koyimaold]

nObody has critted my website (boohoo) , well except niki (she always crits)

i want to know what to change, cos i have some new ideas (surfing gives me inspiration)

anyways cgkostas is waiting for your crits on the princes, on the site on previous stuff on anything

i get bored easilly and replacing my brother in the shop isn't interesting(it's f.... boring)

[DimitrisLiatsos]

I would suggest if u want to be sure for her topology ...to look at

Body Topolofy Thread Started by Steven Stahlberg... (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=108412)


U will see to many issues and stuff for it ...one of the more educational threads in my opinion...go check it :bounce:

[arturro]

cool works, cool design, but man!!! why it's so damn big? everything looks so huge and I totally don't like that:) it's hard to see something. Make it all smaller, and it will be good. In my opinion of course:)

[koyimaold]

@ darkone :animating a dead princess? interesting...
well i'll make better use of my vertices next time, i'll send pics tomorrow...
anyhow i did a test skin, using biped(after i added the arms, which i haven't posted yet) and it deformed quite good round the knee) anyhow it's just for simple posing and the shape is what counts in this case...

see ya

[arturro]

my last post considered your web site:)

[PeterSanitra]

She`s in good shape then, ya know, not all death bodies are so nice:)

[koyimaold]

@arturo: my website was designed on 19" monitor display
everything looked tiny (desktop res of 1600x1200
i couln't even read my own text
1024x768 is the res of the images used as backrounds

i would like crits on the images (not so much the layout)

[arturro]

I also have 19' but 1280x960, and believe me, it's too big. I don't mean the background pictures, they are very good, I mean only the text in the menu. These buttons are too huge for me:) The pictures are realy good. You are a good artist. Your hand there is most impressive to me. I would only make the fingers a bit longer. Heads are also on a high level, only shave the hero:)

ok, I leave your site in peace and wait for next stunning updates here:twisted:

[koyimaold]

Thanx i'm getting you

@arturo: cleaner smaller site coming up soon thanx again for the crits (the hand is from a photo of my own)

[koyimaold]

going home to model stuff for all you cgtalkers

arturo game me a great boost
liatsos sent me to a really good thread that inspired to make the princess perfect

so off i go see u tomorrow

[ArchiFikos]

Hey guess who

The princess is cool. And so is the rest of ur stuff, original and stuff. Cya tomorrow

[terraarc]

Hello kotsos!

Nice progress you have here....The lady surely needs some work on various rather delicate parts ... (aka a$$ and b00bs)...I think they both luck some gravity......
Suggestion....If this lady is not be moving....why not model her on final position?

Anyway...best of luck and magic potion for your effort mate!!:bounce:

I'll just go and check your website too.....:)

[neble]

The bottom half looks a little too male for me. What would happen if you pulled the hips down a little, pulled in the stomach and thinned it all a bit? I just think it needs a little tweaking, but then again it's difficult to pull off a human due to everyone having references around them. I like your effort, and wish you luck.

[artemesia66]

I think her belly button is a bit low, and that's what's making her hips look sort of narrow and masculine. and move the breasts closer together, but someone already said that. Otherwise, looking good to my eye. :thumbsup:

[ixor]

I think that the model of the female is more of a shemale. If you take of the breasts the body is of a male man! The female body is more delicate and thinner. You are not working on a body builder kinda character you are working on a female. Make the thighs thinner, the waist smaller, leave the pelvis as is. Work on it and take as reference your girlfriend...

[koyimaold]

@ixor:(les malakies karga)

have u seen britney spears (perfect body in my opinion), she has a perfect round ass, perfect boobs that don't hang , muscles on arms, legs, belly and she is petit. i'm dissapointed in ur lack of vision for the perfect woman body (although it is a matter of taste)

@artemisia66: i'm posting an update, u r a woman so i think u can understand the bodytype i'm looking for

@terrarc: (iparxoun k ginaikes pou den tous epireazei toso i varitita) just because in real life all women don't have perfect bodies doesn't mean we have to make all women so they have saggy bodies, young women have perky breasts, tight firm buttocks(i decided to use her on an other project so i'm going to work more on her)

@neble: male bodies as i can see from my own (which is quite well formed and masculine) don't have a waist we have a triangle shape, she has a waist and firm nice buttocks

generally take a look at he next update and i want more feedback, but keep in mind i'm going for the britney(almost perfect look), plus ihave not used photo reference it's just the image in my head of britney's body

[koyimaold]

@ixor: des kai afto to thread a deis pos tis exoun kanei tis gomenes, mikro stithos akoles klp (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=108412&page=4&pp=15)
realistiko men alla de m'aresei giati exo dei kai kaliterous kollous stin pragmatikotita

ektos ton allon den prospathoume na mimithoume apla tin pragamtikotita, prospathoume na ftiaxoume to teleio, to fantasy (kai to style mou einai pio poli comics para realistic)

epeidi tha to eftiaxnes esi allios den paei na pei pos afto pou ftiaxno ego den iparxei i den ine oreo i einai shemale, pou profanos den exeis dei (den exoun oute mesi, oute kolo apla dio vizia kollimena) kai ta kalitera sxolia mou ta ekane ginaika pou ta exei k mprosta tis gia reference

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105373696_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105373696_large.jpg)

An update on the princess, simply posed just for renders sake.

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105374075_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105374075_large.jpg)

Back view (nice!)

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105374206_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105374206_large.jpg)

Another one

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105374659_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105374659_large.jpg)

Another 1

[PeterSanitra]

You better make a bigger progress, time is geting short my friend:D

[ixor]

This is a tranny not a woman!!!
The ass is HUGE!! The thighs are HUGE!!
She doesn't have a waist!!
Her shoulders are too bulky and built!!
A WOMAN IS DELICATE!!

[ixor]

AUTO FILE MOU EINAI TRAVESTI!!! KAI OXI GKOMENA..
AMA THES ME PISTEUEIS.. THELEI POOOOLLLLIIII DOULEIA AKOMA GIA NA GINEI GINEKA AUTO!!! :banghead:

[Virtuoso]

My take on the look is that there is some fine modeling,clean lines and nice flow.........I see her as an athletic type,and well toned muscle wise.All in all a real nice job Kostandinos......:arteest:

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105546947_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105546947_large.jpg)

Compositin on the central hero

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105547455_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105547455_large.jpg)

This is the base layer everything else is painted in photoshop

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105547758_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105547758_large.jpg)

I added a lens flare just to show the energy source. I know it's cliche and kitch.

[YasushAzush]

oppps so many nice updates here .....welldone:thumbsup:

[Nomad]

Nice progress here :applause:

Great work, no critics :thumbsup:

[sakenstein]

This is going just amazing...Well Done...!

Keep it up but don't forget about.... u know what! hehehe

About the princess, u realy must enlarge the height of the distance from her lower back to the head... Spine is too short!!! looks unatural and is spoiling every detail that u made to this model... usually the height of the human body takes about 52-58% for legs and the spine with head takes the rest...! Keep it up! U Rock!

[arturro]

Well, it's as much 2d as 3d, but still great piece of work. Even this kitchy light doesn't look that bad:) waiting for your next move, no crits yet:twisted:

[yperfikos]

Good work on your hero... :thumbsup: Sure the light is kitch, but a little kitch is always needed!!!:buttrock:

Waiting to see what you can do on the princess... (Won't she be wearing any clothes?, because you seem to be dealing a lot on her body...) The face needs work. She looks like an old crone... :eek:

Keep it up!!!:applause:

YperFikos

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105723638_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105723638_large.jpg)

This is one of the final stages in the composition. Still have to add ships smoke the sword of justice.
I don\'t have time damn it.
The final image is currently 9000x6000 pixels and it\'s growing.
Aaaah!

[PeterSanitra]

We know that you can work with photoshop layers,and setup the soft layer with blur, but it`s simply too much "soft blured". You can barely seen what`s going on.

[sinaris]

It's a bloom effect...
It's what blizzard uses on it's imagery and u find it cool
also as he said the final image is 9000x6000 (i think u will be able to see the detail in that resolution)

Good work man:buttrock:

I see u appreciated my input kotsos:thumbsup:

[Dr_Robert3d]

Nice work there Kostantinos!

I believe we will see great things from you in the future!:thumbsup:

Continue the ..... CREATION!

[sinaris]

by the way i can't wait for the final image keep it up kotsos:thumbsup:

[sinaris]

As for ixor comments about the princess I must say that I just saw in the TV a woman that looks exactly like her and her body is identical to hers and no is not a TRANNY:eek:

[ixor]

I gomena stin eikona fainete poli kali!! Mpravo!!
Anipomono na do tin teleutaia eikona!
Vale kai ta psaro-skafi kai tha einai gamati!!
Tha ta pas poli kala!

[sinaris]

Post:bounce: Post :bounce:Post:bounce:

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105977877_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105977877_large.jpg)

Shall i put this one or the next one

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105978236_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105978236_large.jpg)

Shall i put this one or the next one

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105978488_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105978488_large.jpg)

Or this one?

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105978699_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105978699_large.jpg)

Or this one
Oh my god i can't decide

[sinaris]

Definitely the first one, amazing colors and atmosphere very artistic congratulation kotsos you very much impressed me again. I hope you win

[koyimaold]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105979175_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5324/5324_1105979175_large.jpg)

This was my original idea, i'll stick to it. I'll like the second one too but it doesn't have thbe girl....

[arturro]

Looks great, but I don't like the backgrpound color. In my opinion it would look better with this blue one from the 2nd test.

[koyimaold]

@arturo: Thanx for the crits man but i've already uploaded

never mind anyway

[koyimaold]

@sinaris: didn't see the post thanx man, we'll see

[koyimaold]

Check out full resolution image here http://www.darkopolis.0catch.com/finalcomp.jpg

check out the other option in hi-re here http://www.darkopolis.0catch.com/newtest_vol_glow.jpg

[koyimaold]

:bounce::bounce:Thanx to every1: thanx guys for ur support:bounce::bounce:

thanx: niki for ur support
thanx:DimLiatsos fro ur crits and pointers
thanx: sinaris for u pushing me in the right direction
thanx:skls for helpful tips,although a bit late
thanx:ixor for being as bad as u could
thanx:darkone for your critical eye
thanx:yperfikos for your encouraging words
thanx:arxifikos cos u are kammenos
thanx: Dr Robert, k esi argises
thanx: arturo, for ur crits and help on the site (i updated the interface, check it out)
thanx artemesia66 for ur usefull crits (shut some mouths of some people)
thanx:blackdragoncg for yuor interest
thanx:visualact.com for popping in from now and then
thanx:terrarc for greeting me
thanx dimitrisK for having long conversations over the net with me
thanx: virtuoso for a crit that meant lots to me
(the guys/girls in yellow gave me lots of support and i thank them especially)

good luck to every1 who participated in the challenge:bounce:


nice knowing everyone
until the next challenge

but wait the results haven't come out yet
we have some time yeah

check out some hires versions here (http://www.darkopolis.0catch.com/finalcomp.jpg) and here (http://www.darkopolis.0catch.com/newtest_vol_glow.jpg)

....i'll try and pop in again in a couple of days....

....i made friends on this challenge....

i didn't expect it....

i hope everyone likes my images, i think their interesting, they have a style
next time i'm going to tottally kick ass...

.....and if some things are true thanx to this challenge by febuary a will be working in the cg industry.....

thanx again:thumbsup:

(stop suckin up.....i used emoticons yeah)

[sinaris]

if you want to see kotsos hi-res pics please go here (http://www.cjb.cc/members/darkopolis/pages/cgkostas/images/finalcomp.jpg) and here (http://www.cjb.cc/members/darkopolis/pages/cgkostas/images/newtest_vol_glow.jpg)

[blackdragoncg]

Nice job dude!:thumbsup:

Good luck with your entry! It would be nice to get one's hands on such awsome goodies eh!

Getting good equipment is my next major challange !

I don't know anything about the CG industry in greece but wish you luck finding a spot there for you!

L8r
blackdragon

[terraarc]

Hello kotsos! :)
Nice to see this one finished mate! :thumbsup:

Wishing the best on your entry!

Kalh epituxia!:)

[niki]

wow ... beautiful artwork :thumbsup:

good luck

[SUN]

HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLO

:thumbsup: FANTASTIC BIG BAD ROBOTOSSSS:thumbsup:

[Dr_Robert3d]

I like the 2 foto you created for final , but i most like the one with the yellow color

Whatever you choose ...

Good Luck!:thumbsup:

[artemesia66]

Great final image, Kotsos. I think my personal preference was for the blue one without the girl--there's more contrast in the colouring and lighting, but this one is very dramatic. :thumbsup:

[ArchiFikos]

Ur final image is incredible! once again you pleasantly surprise me (the last one was the surprise party :-D ) Cya around!

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